Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Switching from B2B to B2C Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Switching from B2B to B2C Marketing?

    Arryck asks, “What tips do you have for a marketer who is switching from B2B to B2C marketing, focusing on moving a lot of product in store and online?”

    Fundamentally, B2B and B2C are the same thing. The question is how complex the sale is. A lot of B2B marketing also resembles mortgages, college educations, etc. – lots of decision makers, long buying cycles. A lot of B2C marketing looks like transactional B2B, like when you buy a software license with your credit card. Beyond that, focus on where customers get stuck, and fix the least well-performing stage in the buyer’s journey.

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    In today’s episode arc asks what tips you have for a marketer who is switching from B2B to B2C marketing focusing on moving a lot of products in store and online.

    So fundamentally, b2b and b2c at the same thing, right? You’re selling to human beings.

    The real question is how complex is the sale now a lot of b2b marketing it is complex sales.

    Lots of decision makers long buying cycles.

    Emphasis very strongly on relationships.

    And there are b2c products that look just like that.

    mortgages, car purchases, college education, high risk transactions where someone’s going to have a long time to wait.

    A lot of decision makers, a lot of consultation, a lot of checking reviews and things to make sure that Making a good choice.

    Now, a lot of b2c marketing looks like transactional b2b, right? You go on to your favorite SAS software provider where you can go and just swipe your credit card and got your software you may not even interact with a human being just get up and go write a short buying cycle, low risk, low budget, and very fast.

    So there’s no structural difference between b2b and b2c.

    What there is a differences in the complexity of the sale and how complex your company’s products and services are in terms of complexity of sale.

    So the first thing to do is find out how complex is the sale of media question comes to mind is how long is the buying cycle from first touch, meaning awareness, all the way to purchase, how many days weeks months years is the product if it is yours, you’re going to have a buying process and marketing technology and all those things.

    It looks just like B2B There’ll be an advanced CRM, they’ll be sales agents, nurturing people through the process, etc.

    If the product has a very short sale cycle, you know, under 30 days, and you’re going to have things like e commerce, probably, you’re going to have more maybe distributors or resellers in the mix there somewhere.

    And you’re going to apply the same strategies you do for any non complex sale, we’re instead of creating a individual long term relationship, you’re probably gonna be working with large audiences and working with segments.

    Working with brand awareness overall, getting people to trust the brand, be loyal to the brand, building a large community around the brand, trying to make sure that people stay in touch, keep coming back, and building that recommendation engine or referral engine I should say where consumers who have a positive experience Going back and evangelizing and making sure that you are getting new business from satisfied customers in b2b, or average taking complex sales that’s, you know, very much in a one to one basis in b2c that’s going to be for transactional stuff much more large scale.

    So focusing on things like reviews, sites, product reviews, ratings, depending on where you sell, there may be a built in rating system if you’re selling your product on on Amazon, for example, gathering up Amazon reviews, weeding out trolls and robots etc.

    No matter which type of sale you’re you are working with in terms of complexity.

    The number one thing you need to do when you make the switch from one company to the next is look at the overall buyers journey awareness, consideration, evaluation purchase and However granular your new company gets you I’ve seen some people with operations funnels that look 15 stages of funnel, whatever the organization does, you’re going to map out your key performance indicators, your here your funnel metrics from stage to stage and that funnel and determine at what stage Do you lose customers the most? Is it from website visitor to prospect is from prospect to qualified lead is it from lead to sale.

    And again, regardless of whether it’s simple or complex sale, you may have just an audience and go right into a credit card purchase but there will still be stages at which that audience member is giving things like consideration and evaluation plan.

    They may not do a whole lot of it.

    Right? No one almost no one We’ll spend months researching a pack of chewing gum.

    But there will still be that moment of consideration when they come they get up the supermarket counter, you look at it go look at the price, they look at the packaging.

    Yeah.

    And either they pick it up and buy it or not map out your operations funnel and then start by fixing the least well performing stage in the buyers journey as long as it’s under marketing’s control, it’s not under sales.

    It’s not a sales issue.

    If the company is that divided and fixed the least well performing stage and marketing the least performing stage that you are responsible for and you will automatically create multipliers of growth everywhere else.

    So, if you have awareness consideration evaluation purchase and the transition rate or the conversion rate from awareness to consideration is 10%.

    And consideration to evaluation is 2%.

    And evaluation of purchases 15% fix that consideration to evaluation phase, if you could take that from 2% to 3%, you’re going to have 50% more sales downstream, right? Because you have increased that stages conversion rate by 50%.

    A lot of people tend to focus on what they know best, or what is easiest to fix.

    Fix the thing that’s most broken.

    And you will see multipliers of of performance down funnel it it’s the one the easiest simplest tactics I can I can recommend.

    Now, depending on what the problem is fixing the underlying problem may not be so easy but at least in terms of what’s your first order of business, your first order of business.

    And this is true even for if you’re in your job right now.

    You’ve been there for I don’t know 15 years.

    Do that exercise map out your marketing operations follow map out the stages, from stage to stage and figure out Okay, where are things broken? Where have we fallen down the most? And what can we do to improve that and again, if you can improve conversion rate from one to 2% you’ve automatically doubled the performance of everything thereafter in the funnel because you’re sending twice as much traffic through that stage is like a, it was like kids sand toys with the sands going from stage to stage and rock gets stuck in one of them and clogs it, remove that clog.

    Everything else from there on out flows.

    So that’s the immediate tip.

    Again, regardless of its b2c b2b, simpler, complex sale, map out your operations funnel.

    Remove the clogs.

    That’s it.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Tragedy Response Guidelines for Marketers?

    You Ask, I Answer: Tragedy Response Guidelines for Marketers?

    Taryn asks, “What do you think about businesses acknowledging a celebrity/famous person death? A good idea? Insensitive? Depends on the case?”

    This is a complicated question, in part because so many tragic and unfortunate events happen every day. There are five guidelines I follow: proximity, magnitude, audience, brand, and judgement. There’s also one iron-clad rule to never break. Watch the video for a walkthrough of each.

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    In today’s episode Terran asks, What do you think of businesses responding or acknowledging a famous person’s death or some other kind of tragedy? A good idea insensitive depends on the case.

    So this is a very complicated question in some ways, and in other ways, it’s incredibly simple.

    There are five guidelines that I use to decide how should your company or brand respond to tragic and unfortunate events.

    Those are proximity magnitude, audience impact brand and judgment.

    Proximity means how close is the incident to you physically, right, if something’s happening in your company’s hometown, do the obvious thing.

    Make sure that your employees your loved ones are safe and accounted for.

    This is especially true Things like active shooter situations, terrorist attacks, etc.

    Once you’ve established that there’s no threat or harm to your immediate community, then you consider more mundane issues.

    The more proximate a an incident is to your company or to your market into your audience, the more you should consider interrupting operations.

    For example, something happens in Topeka, Kansas, and I’m in Boston.

    That’s not as high a proximity.

    And just one of the five factors to keep in mind.

    Second is magnitude and this is where things like celebrities and stuff do matter.

    The greater the overall magnitude of an event, the bigger the event, the more likely it is you should interrupt operations.

    really unfortunate reality.

    The answer is, there’s a mass shooting in the United States of America almost every day, but there are certain events that are lost.

    Larger than others.

    And so you have to make the decision, you know, how, how big is this event? Should it interrupt our operations, when you have a celebrity that passes away unexpectedly, how big an event is that and that’s something that you have is definitely to be subjective, you have to give some thought to it.

    The third one, which helps inform the magnitude is audience impact.

    Not all people respond the same way to incidents major or minor, right.

    But the people who matter to your business are your customers.

    And that should dictate substantial portion of your response.

    You’ve got to be monitoring your audience.

    Real simple example.

    If you are not already doing this, I strongly recommend that you do make a Twitter list of your top you know 50 or 100 customers, the people not the the companies themselves, but the people who work at those companies, and then monitor that list when something happens.

    Go to that Twitter list.

    Just get a sense of how many of your top 100 customers are talking about this thing, if it’s, if it’s a celebrity that’s passed away unexpectedly, how many of those 100 top customers individual humans are talking about the thing? If zero of them are probably shouldn’t interrupt operations, right? If 10 or 20, or 30, or 50 or 75, or are talking about the thing, and the sentiment is is appropriately you know, unhappy or, or sad.

    Yeah, interrupted operations.

    Your customers are telling you, Hey, this is something that matters to us.

    By virtue, what is they have to say? Let’s, let’s address it appropriately.

    The fourth is brand alignment.

    If an internet of some kind is impactful to your brand, interrupt operations, right.

    If, for example, if something happens at one of your business locations, activate your crisis communications plan, it’s pretty straightforward.

    If something is happening that directly impacts your brand.

    Yeah, you need to have some sort of response plan in place to be able to handle the matter with sensitivity, with and with, you know, with the appropriate tone, but this need and the last one, of course, is judgment, sound human judgment.

    The thing that the default will I always go with is, if you have to ask, you probably need to stop operations, right, you have to ask, Is this going to offend our audience? And if you have to ask the question, the answer is probably yes.

    Right.

    If you never have to think will this offend our audience, then it’s probably not something that’s going to be substantially impactful.

    basic rule of thumb, there’s no harm in erring on the side of caution.

    When it comes to tragic and unfortunate events.

    No one at a responsible company has ever lost their job for hitting the pause button that day, right or acknowledging the human cost of incident in human terms.

    That said again, there is no shortage of an unfortunate events happening all the time.

    So use the these indicators of proximity magnitude, audience brand new judgment to make those decisions and make those human decisions to say yes, the set this feels like, it feels like a bad idea to respond to this or It feels like a good idea to respond to this or it feels appropriate to respond in a certain way.

    All right.

    Now, here’s the one rule, the ironclad rule, the rule that you must not break ever.

    And if you do break it, you deserve everything that happens to you do not hijack other people’s sorrow to sell more stuff.

    Do not leverage tragic and unfortunate events for marketing benefit.

    You will get raked over the coals and you will deserve it.

    You will get your butt handed to you and Most decent people would be very happy to see that.

    So this is the only hard and fast rule I all of everything we talked about tonight was judgment and and, and basic decision making.

    This is the rule, don’t market sorrow.

    Don’t do it doesn’t matter how on brand it is never take advantage of other people’s on happiness.

    Right? So those are the rules that I recommend.

    Part of these rules is having a crisis plan in place, having a response plan in place and then practicing it right.

    So take half an hour in your next communications and marketing team meetings.

    They Hey, we’re going to simulate, you know, active shooter at at a local elementary school, what is our response by and how do we deal with it, you know, again, proximity, big, big deal.

    And these plans don’t have to be complex.

    In fact, they shouldn’t be complex they should they should fit on in next card, right? active shooter situation immediately stop all social media verify families and friends and customers are safe.

    Stay tuned to the news.

    Respond only if appropriate.

    If someone asks for some reason, have this implant, you have an incident at your company.

    What’s your plan for that? You know, again, Stop, Stop the presses.

    communicate to your legal team, communicate to your audience that you’re investigating, that you’re aware of something’s going on, and then work with local authorities to deal with it.

    Having index cards of these are the basic rules for all these different scenarios and then just practicing them by asking someone in a meeting, hey, pretend this just happened.

    What do we is the best way to make sure that we have prepared responses that we know what to do and that no one’s going to go rogue and do something that could be potentially damaging to our brands.

    Making sure that everyone’s on bored with that now marketing, sales, communications, PR, the ad agency, whatever the case may be, making sure that you have plans in place.

    That’s the essential part of this.

    Knowing It is one thing doing it’s another.

    So really good question, important question.

    And unfortunately, a timeless question because there’s no shortage of tragic and unfortunate events ever.

    So just knowing which ones are going to matter most to the people that matter most to your company.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Opportunities on Tiktok?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Opportunities on Tiktok?

    Jeremy asks, “I’m curious to know your thoughts about Tik Tok. Are there marketing opportunities there for brands or will that end up killing the platform?”

    As with any social media platform, it depends on your goals and your audience. For some, Tiktok is a slam dunk. For others, it’s utterly senseless. The key question is, can you serve the audience there? Watch the video for the 5 step process on approaching Tiktok as a marketer.

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    In today’s episode, Jeremy, so I’m curious to know your thoughts about Tiktok.

    Are their marketing opportunities there for brands? Or will that end up killing the platform? Well, can’t really kill a platform with marketing.

    I mean, it like any platform has followers and fans, if you don’t follow, somebody’s not going to see their stuff.

    And the best stuff that makes it to the front page, even without you being logged in, is not going to be your marketing stuff.

    So as with any social media platform, it depends on your goals and your audience.

    So what are your goals? as a marketer? Are you trying to build awareness, which is one thing that Tiktok is really great at? Are you trying to do lead conversion? Probably not the place to do that? More importantly, what’s your audience? Tiktok we know very little about the platform other than what was in a leaked ad agency.

    Deck a little more than a year actually about a year ago, in which it said that of its 600 million users 550 million we’re in Asia, mostly China, about 30 million users at the time in the United States.

    And the demographic skew very, very young 13 to 24.

    Is that your audience? Is that the audience you’re going after? If it is great? If it’s not, then you know that for some brands, and for some companies and some products, that that’s a slam dunk.

    That is exactly the demographic that’s exactly who they want to be in front of.

    And that’s exactly who they want to appeal to for other brands.

    That’s, that’s totally useless, right? It’s totally senseless.

    There’s no reason to be there.

    And now, this is the important part.

    Can you serve the audience there? So a lot of marketers a lot of companies make the ridic This mistake that they just start throwing their stuff out there Hey, check out our thing Hey, learn all about us and things and nobody wants that right? on LinkedIn that’s called a pitch slap, right? So the moment you connect with somebody, she gets slapped with one of their sales pitches, nobody wants that.

    Can you as a company? Can you as a marketer, make the kind of content that does well on Tiktok? Can you make things that are funny that are silly that are music related that are are maybe not the most, you’re serious content, but really just really good entertainment? Can you serve the audience can you give your audience what they want, not what you want as the marketer but what they want.

    Many, many, many brands struggle with this.

    About the only brands that don’t really have a hard time with that as much our entertainment brands where their mission is to entertain to give you entertainment in smaller doses.

    hopes that you’ll then upgrade to the larger doses on you know, their whatever their paid streaming app or services.

    And so when it comes to Tiktok, can you create content that resonates with the community that blends in with the culture that’s already there? many brands can’t do that.

    They just can’t they’re their own internal culture is so stuck on being self centered, that they can’t make that pivot.

    That’s why a number of brands have done really, really poorly on any network where there is a strong subculture like Reddit, for example, Reddit has a very clear, very strong subculture neither right or wrong, but if you can’t fit into the Reddit crowd, you will do more reputation damage than good, right you will get roundly mocked, you will get strung up metaphorically and it will not benefit your company.

    The same is true of Tick tock tick tock has a culture It is a very specific color.

    There’s a clear culture in it.

    And if you are not able to blend in with it and align the the content you create with that, it’s not going to go well.

    So as with any social network, any new, any new audience and a new environment, you’ve got to do a few things.

    Number one, sign up for it number to secure your name, right? That’s pretty obvious.

    And then spend a whole bunch of time we’re talking weeks or maybe even months.

    Just watching, just watching, just listening, paying attention, making notes to yourself, of what is working, what’s not what is popular, what makes it to the front page or the front of the app.

    What trends Do you see.

    And after you finish your period of listening, then you can start your period of engagement, which is commenting and making friends and networking, things like that.

    And finally, you start creating, right? That’s the sequence in which you tackle any new environment.

    It’s very similar to, you know, good old anthropology where if you’re trying to observe a society, you spend a lot of time on that observation.

    You spend a lot of time on that note making you spend time building relationships first, and only then do you start trying to be an active participant in that society if it’s even appropriate to do so.

    Obviously, for anthropological studies, it is not.

    But for social media marketing, that’s the way you’d want to go.

    The worst thing you can do is just start throwing the same crap that you put up on YouTube on Tiktok.

    Because again, at best, you’ll be ignored at worst you’ll be causing actively damaging your brand’s reputation.

    So that’s the thing.

    Try it out.

    Is there a marketing opportunity there? Maybe Maybe not.

    Is the Chinese audience your market.

    There are certainly any number of resellers and fulfillment companies and things like that, that are based in China, if you want to reach them, that might be an interesting way to do it in a language and environment where you are not.

    You’re not as constrained.

    Certainly, there are apps, you know, for example, like red, that are very, very popular in China, but you had better speak Chinese to use Tiktok doesn’t have quite quite a strong language barrier.

    But if your audience is there, give it a try.

    See what’s happening and then make the decision like is this a place that we could meaningfully provide value? So that’s the answer.

    I think there are some marketing opportunities for me personally, no, from my company, not right now.

    But maybe down the road.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Useful is Porter’s 5 Forces?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Useful is Porter's 5 Forces?

    Katy asks, “How applicable is Porter’s 5 Forces for you in your career/firm?”

    The short answer is that Porter’s 5 Forces, while an excellent abstract strategic framework, is exceptionally difficult to quantify and thus manage against. It’s the sort of thing that’s good at the start of a company, when you’re working out the market space, but not something you’ll use on a regular basis. Watch the video for details.

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    Christopher Penn In today’s episode, Katie asks how applicable is Porter’s five forces for you, in your career or firm? If you don’t recall, and for some folks, it may have been a little while since business school if you if you made it to business school, which is totally fine if you didn’t Porter’s five forces is a strategic framework to determine the sort of industry rivalry, how competitive is an industry? And how likely is it that your firm your company is going to face a lot of pressure from competitors.

    So let’s actually bring up the model here.

    Here we have Porter’s five forces we have it’s really structured but essentially you read it left, right and then top to bottom.

    So left to right.

    You have the threat of new entrants, meaning that there’s a new company to come into your space and disrupt you.

    There’s your company in the middle and then there is a On the other side of that the threat of substitutes meaning a company that does what you do, but can be substituted in for you, the more there are substitutes the more likely you are facing commoditization.

    Right think about a plumber right? Plumbing Companies the substitute is pretty obvious it’s any plumber right? Because for the category as a whole, there’s not a whole lot that sets one plumber apart from the other right it’s all relationship based, same with new entrants, if classic case of that was you know, cars taxi, the taxi industry being disrupted by Uber right new entrant came in and and wrecked the marketplace.

    vertically, you have the bargaining power of suppliers, namely how much leverage they have over you for what they supply you and the bargaining power of buyers how much pricing pressure a buyer can apply to your company based on their willingness to to squeeze you a real good example that This one is a Bed Bath and Beyond nobody shops there unless they have a coupon.

    Right? So people, people have been so trained by that company basically being in permanent sale mode that they can’t do any normal business if they’re not sending out like a 30% off coupon.

    So this framework is a good, abstract strategic framework, right? It is something that you can sit down and do as a thought exercise.

    Anytime you’re doing a major strategic pivot or decision if you’re starting a new company, if you are trying to change the purpose of your company, this is a really good framework.

    It is good for you know, that annual board strategic retreat or senior executive strategic meeting or whatever.

    But the challenge with Porter’s five forces and its use is that because it is so abstract, it is very difficult to quantify and it’s very Difficult, therefore, to manage against each of these categories, you can make some kind of framework that has some numbers attached to it right.

    And, you know, threat of new entrants isn’t, you know, number of competitors, how many of them are there? And was their market share threat of substitutes, you know, what, how comparable are our competitors on features and pricing.

    And what you’ll end up with is sort of a massive spreadsheet that starts to look a lot like a major consulting firms two by two matrix, right.

    That said, you can’t really manage against that because assembling one of those things is a massive, very labor intensive process and keeping the data up to date.

    kind of tough, right? Because again, it’s it’s a lot of legwork.

    The same is true for you know, the bargaining power of suppliers and buyers, very different types of measurement.

    And so you can kind of sort of measure Porter’s five forces, but when it comes to you Using a strategic framework to measure against on a regular frequent basis, you’re actually much better off with a SWOT analysis because SWOT Analyses allow you to, to really keep track of a discrete set of data, right, a SWOT analysis for social media is a good way to segment out your, your data and look at just one channel SWOT analysis for email SWOT analysis for search engine optimization for SEO.

    That framework will be much more practical to use on a regular basis.

    So when you’re making a major strategic change, for decide forces is the way to go.

    When you’re trying to manage on a regular basis, use a SWOT analysis instead.

    I would say with Porter’s five forces we use that at the beginning, when I when my partner and I co founded Trust Insights and we we use a variant of it To try and understand how should we position the company.

    And there were, there’s always a threat of new entrants in any industry, there really was no threat of substitutes because data science is this such a limited talent pool, that it’s not like you can create a massive Goliath overnight, the bargaining power of buyers is relatively low, because if buyers have a need, they know they don’t have any way to fulfill that need because again, the talent shortage in the field.

    And then the bargaining power of suppliers.

    At least a service firm which is what we are there, we don’t really have suppliers, right other than, you know, tools and software and most of what we use is open source.

    So there is no bargaining power.

    So it puts us in a very interesting position that has been very advantageous.

    We do on a fairly regular basis.

    Keep an eye on What’s happening in the industry but everything we’ve seen thus far indicates that the conditions for the creation of our company have gotten better instead of worse, or, I should say are more advantageous rather than less advantageous because it really is no good or bad.

    So that’s the long answer Porter’s five forces, good strategic, abstract stickle SWOT analysis for for operational stuff, and maybe we’ll cover that in another episode.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Is Direct Mail Dead?

    You Ask, I Answer: Is Direct Mail Dead?

    Maria asks, “Researching direct mail and my boss says it’s a waste of time, it’s dead. Is direct mail dead?”

    Yes and no. Direct mail to people who didn’t ask for it is dead. It’s an enormous waste of money and is flat out pollution. I’d rather you send a billion pieces of electronic spam than cut down even one tree. But direct mail to people who ask for it is not dead. This is the fundamental rule for every marketing tactic: nothing is dead to people who really want it.

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    In today’s episode Maria asks, I’m researching direct mail.

    My boss says the waste of time it’s dead is direct mail dead.

    So this is an interesting question yes and no direct mail.

    And by that we mean literal pieces of paper that are sent to people in the postal system is that were used to be one of the most popular tactics from marketers back in the pre internet days.

    But obviously, as people have moved online, electronic communications have become ubiquitous, right? You have these lovely devices that let us communicate and be online.

    24 seven, direct mail.

    And by that we mean that mailing of paper to people who did not ask for it is dead.

    And the reason it’s dead is the cost right? It costs almost nothing to send an email, even for the most elaborate and expensive marketing automation software, it costs almost nothing to send an email.

    It costs sometimes pennies, maybe as much as 25 cents us to send a piece of direct mail to consumers, and that’s a lot of money, right? You send mail to four people.

    That’s 1.

    I cost you1.

    The reason why we’re saying direct mail is sort of dead is because it’s dead to people who didn’t ask for it.

    And if you’re cold email, cold postal mailing people, that is an enormous, enormous waste of money.

    It is 10s of thousands of dollars.

    That is just literally being thrown away.

    And more importantly, today, it’s flat out pollution.

    It’s Pollution it’s double pollution because a you’ve got the mail pieces being thrown away into garbage dumps maybe compost heaps if you’re lucky and be you had to cut down the tree and make the paper that the the direct mail is printed on doubly so it’s even worse at the paper happens to be was looking for chocolate coated in plastic to make it weather resistant or or sealed Bennett takes even longer for it to break down.

    And so there are substantial negative climate impacts to direct mail to people who didn’t ask for I would rather you send a billion pieces of electronic spam.

    Then cut down even one tree to send marketing materials to people who didn’t ask for it right if you’re gonna if you’re going to do spam, please do it electronically public service message.

    Here’s the flipside.

    Direct mail to people who ask for people who want it from you is not dead if you send out a a real paper newsletter.

    If you send out a magazine, if you send out a mailer, to people who have specifically raised their hand said, I want you to send this to me via the postal mail, and maybe even they’re willing to pay for it.

    But it’s not dead.

    Right magazines, people still do receive magazines in the mail people still do.

    Read, read and receive paper newspapers, not many, not as many as it used to.

    People still do want to get things in the mail, there are entire subscription services where you get something in the mail, right? So if people ask for it, then it’s not dead.

    The question is, how do you know that somebody wants it? Well, the way to do that is to use electronic communications first, and then ask people Hey, would you like to receive our marketing in printed form? If so, it will cost this much.

    Now, out of a 10 Thousand person mailing list, you know, five people may opt for that but as long as those five people are the ones that are valuable potential customers then it would make sense to do is like any form of marketing it doesn’t make sense to do it is that the right people? This is the fundamental rule of all outbound marketing, right? Nothing is dead to people who really want it.

    certainly nothing is dead to people who are willing to pay for it.

    And the gold standard that we all strive for in marketing is have a marketing be so good people would actually pay for it and direct mail is an example of of that of is your marketing good enough that somebody would want to at least pay the costs of the direct mail to receive a newsletter from you? That is worth them shelling out 25 cents.

    If you’re at that point, you are a an outstanding marketer.

    I’m not even sure I would pay 25 cents to print doubt my newsletter, and I like my newsletter.

    So that’s the short answer.

    The longer answer to the question is it’s worth a try for outreach, as long as you are extremely segmented in your mail.

    If you have a list of you know, 10,000 people who are the 10, the 10 people on that list who are the most valuable? Send your direct mail to just those tech keep your costs super low.

    But if you if you know for sure, like these 10 people are going to be lifetime customers, you know this from your data, you know, this from your analytics.

    These 10 people are the people that we have to get out of this list.

    That’s a great case for very limited outbound direct postal mail to people, especially if you can make the mail are super compelling, which is not a postcard.

    Right? It has to be something that when people get it in the mail they’re like wow, this is actually really kind of cool like this is I’m kind of glad I actually opened this thing.

    So these are not going to be a postcard or a letter or something like that it’s going to be something unique.

    It’s going to be something that they were not expecting.

    That is valuable to them.

    That is important to them.

    I’m trying to think of some mailers that I’ve seen in the past done and usually piles of stuff laying around.

    There are certain types of like really elaborate folding origami mail is the kind of spring open and talk a little house or something I’ve seen realtors use that which is very clever like a cardboard mailer which is kind of cute.

    Back in the day, we actually did got burner phones, inexpensive phones that were had a the contact number of the the Chief Technology Officer hardcoded into the phone.

    We’ve actually mailed that to report And we only did 10 of them, right? This was very expensive to do.

    People have mailed out things like AirPods, right? war or iPods back in the day with messages pre pre burned into them.

    And so those are highly segmented highly targeted, incredibly expensive pieces, but if the return justifies it, and you do it, right, that’s that is the way to handle direct mail.

    So is it dead? Anything to someone who doesn’t want it to dead? Anything to somebody who does want it, not debt, just do it well, and be aware of the cost the impact of it? Great question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What’s The Difference Between Marketing and Sales?

    You Ask, I Answer: What's The Difference Between Marketing and Sales?

    Mallory asks, “In your honest opinion, what is the difference in marketing and sales?”

    The short answer: creation of demand versus fulfillment of demand. We see this most in examples where demand exists – sales are effectively order-takers and marketing is minimal. On the other hand, if demand doesn’t exist (but the product is ultimately solid), marketing has to be robust in order for sales to do its job. Even if sales is cold-calling, if there’s no demand, cold-calling is ultimately fruitless. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Mallory asks, in your honest opinion, what is the differentiation in marketing and sales? What’s the difference between marketing and sales? Well, the short answer is creation of demand versus fulfillment of demand.

    marketing’s primary goal is to create demand.

    And by that we mean people who want to do business with the company in some form or fashion, they are aware of it.

    They are considering it.

    They’re considering the company and they may even want to talk to somebody to buy something.

    Now, there are different types of companies and companies will differentially invest in marketing or sales.

    A company that is very sales heavy, will invest heavily in sales staff they may or may not invest heavily in marketing.

    And sales is going to be doing a lot of cold calling.

    You know if you want a really good example does any any real real estate company is super heavy on the sales side.

    And the realtors if they don’t already have their existing book of business are cold calling, you know knocking on doors, things like that.

    On the flip side companies there are companies that are essentially giant marketing organizations and they may they may or may not even do a whole lot of sales they may function as a marketing organization.

    Many affiliate marketing companies are like that I worked at a financial services company that was a marketing organization on behalf of another company.

    There wasn’t a sales process other than one person going around brokering deals for this type of affiliate marketing and so as a pure marketing organization if you think about the creation of demand, and the fulfillment of demand as like a two by two matrix, then in the lower left hand corner where a company doesn’t create demand doesn’t fulfill demand they’re going out of business, right? Sears is a really good example.

    This Sears has used to be very good until the current CEO who has essentially driven the company face first into the ground.

    No investment sales, no investment in marketing, and the company is just in terrible condition.

    It’s been bankrupt many, many times, and eventually it will just go away because the fundamental underpinnings of the company are so badly broken, that it will take if a company could recover, it would take decades.

    A company where there is creation of demand but no fulfillment.

    There’s not a robust sales organization.

    That’s actually a place where many startups run into trouble where they’re, they’re good at marketing, but they’re not good at sales.

    And when they hit success, they struggled again.

    up with a struggle to meet the demand that they’re creating, or that already exists and that they’re amplifying, traveling.

    But a good example of that in the early days that was Amazon, being able to, to keep up with the logistics of just how successful the online model was a company where there’s no creation of DRAM, but there’s fulfillment.

    That’s many cold calling businesses.

    Again, real estate agencies are good example.

    In some cases.

    Think back if you don’t have as much gray hair as I do have made maybe impossible to think back this far.

    But in the 1970s this was Xerox Xerox before its patents expired on this photocopiers were was essentially an order taking organization the phone would ring and say I want five of these things and the salesperson really Yep, got it.

    And and that was that would be that they had so much demand.

    And that they didn’t really need the market all that heavily.

    And their organization was purely about fulfilling the demand that existed.

    They had a rude awakening when their patents expired, and other competitors came into the space.

    And suddenly the phone stopped ringing Canon and all these other emerging companies jumped into the fray.

    And at that point, they struggled pretty heavily to try and figure out how to deal with an environment where there was still demand.

    But they were no longer the sole brand.

    And debatable about how will they fulfill that certainly other emerging companies have done very, very well, like cannon over the years.

    And finally, a company that creates and fulfills demand.

    Well, that’s any successful business, right? That’s everything from Amazon, to Walmart to Apple to Google.

    that’s fundamentally a successful business.

    So that’s the difference between marketing and sales.

    In terms of how you understand this difference, that’s a lot more squishy because the customer journey inside for company will not necessarily map to its marketing operations or its revenue operations.

    At a small company, they may be one person whose job is marketing and sales.

    And one of the most difficult things to figure out is as a company grows and scales, how do you break up that role? What does that person who’s doing that role better at so that you can hire for the thing or less better at and ultimately level up your talent pool? from a job assignment? perspective? marketing and sales are separate skill sets.

    And one of the things that companies do really wrong is they confuse the two and they assume that somebody who is a good marketer would make a good salesperson and vice versa.

    It’s not true creation versus fulfillment.

    Demand are very, very different capabilities particularly in the digital age.

    So an important consideration for a lot of companies is what? What do you have for talent? And then where are you weakest and the higher up, you create or build new town rather than trying to move existing talent around I, I totally get it.

    There’s a lot of incentive to do more with what you already have people wise, but if you want to grow a lot of the time, it requires you getting better skills than you possibly have, rather than training somebody up, train somebody up as a good long term investment.

    But if you need to grow quickly, you need to hire it.

    And finally, the the understanding of the difference between marketing and sales is most critical when you are dealing with the customer journey and understanding where the customer journey where the customer is in their journey.

    If you think they’re still in the demand creation space, but they’re Really the demand fulfillment phase? You’re going to leave them frustrated, right? Like No, I just leave it something.

    The opposite is worse, which is someone is still in the demand creation phase like still exploring, still learning still talking to friends and reading reviews, and you got a salesperson pestering them, Hey, if you’re in b2b, this is virtually every b2b company that is saying, okay, you want to buy something, hey, you want to buy something, hey, you want to buy something? And we know as people as consumers, that’s a turn off.

    So it’s really important to know where the customer is in their in their demand fulfillment.

    Where where they are in their demand cycle, if you will, so important to know the difference so that you can treat the customer better you can hire effectively and you know how to structure your operations.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Messaging Rebranding Rollout Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Messaging Rebranding Rollout Strategy?

    Alyssa asks, “We’re currently going through a messaging rebranding, but not changing our visuals. Do you have any input on whether we should focus on a rebranding rollout strategy and a particular launch date, or just quietly change our messaging on our marketing channels?”

    What’s in it for the customer? How does this benefit the customer? If you can clearly articulate an obvious benefit to the customer that they care about – lower costs, better quality, improved service – then design a rollout to emphasize that. If there’s no clear, obvious benefit, then just go about your business.

    Most corporate marketing initiatives provide little, if any, benefit to the customer. Ideally, any pivot should have massive benefit to the customer, but if there isn’t, then just keep things business as usual.

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    In today’s episode Alyssa asks, we’re currently going through a messaging rebranding but not changing our visuals.

    Do you have any input on whether we should focus on a rebranding rollout strategy and a particular launch date? We’re just quietly change our messaging on our marketing channels.

    So this like many corporate initiatives, new logo, new website, this new that.

    The question you have to ask yourself is this and I had I learned this from a sales friend, a few companies back he said the radio in the customers head is always tuned to one station wi I FM, what’s in it for me? So what’s in it for the customer? What is it that the customer will benefit from out of this messaging roll up? How does it benefit them with any These very company centric initiatives, if you can clearly articulate an obvious benefit to the customer that they care about.

    And remember, customers generally care about three things, right? lower costs, better quality, improve service, those are the three things that customers generally want, right? better, faster, cheaper.

    If your corporate initiative whether it’s a messaging rebrand, logo design, whatever delivers on better, faster or cheaper, then yes, design a rollout campaign to emphasize that, hey, our new logo will save you 40% on our product or service.

    It’s kind of sounds silly, right? But if there’s no clear, obvious benefit to the customer, then just call upon your business because the customer is not going to care.

    Right? A new logo doesn’t save them money.

    A new logo probably isn’t gonna improve the customer support.

    st with a messaging rollout.

    Same with a new website, companies low Talking about we’ve got a brand new website.

    That looks better.

    Cool, how does it save me money or make me money as as a customer? Right? That’s what people care about.

    Some marketing initiatives like a new website, if you redesigned it to be easier for customers to interact with you or easier for customers to buy, or you reduce costs, because you focus on more of an e commerce strategy than a retail click and mortar strategy, then, yes, that’s a case where you want to have a rollout campaign to say like, hey, we’ve got a new website, and here’s how it benefits you the customer.

    But most of the time, that’s not the case.

    I have been through many, many public relations campaigns in years past where people have said, clients that said, we really want to make a big splash with any website, you ask, okay, what’s the benefit? What’s in it for the customer? I don’t know.

    We got a new logo and better colors.

    Okay, that’s nice.

    I’m sure you’re very proud of it.

    But at the end of the day, if the customer doesn’t benefit, there’s nothing to announce.

    Last year, on the Trust Insights website, when we were looking through it, we redesigned a substantial part of it to be more customer oriented like this will help you find information easier.

    But even at the end of the day, when we asked ourselves, how does this benefit the customer? Is it worth making mention of it? We concluded that even though we made it easier and more obvious, to tell people what it is we do, it still was more of a benefit to us than it was the customer.

    And so it made no sense to have a campaign telling people, hey, we made things easier for ourselves, right or we made things better for ourselves.

    You just go about your business, just keep things business.

    business as usual.

    Now one of the most important things you can do is, if you are doing one of these corporate marketing initiatives and you’re just at the start of that journey, you’re not about to launch it next week, then can you build a customer centric, pivot into it? If you’re going to spend, you know, a million dollars on this new thing, or even 1,000 or even100? How can you make it much more customer centric? If you sit there and say, Okay, how is this going to help my customer lower their costs, or get better quality or improved service? You will design a relaunch in a week and a campaign that will be more successful because when the customer looks at it, they’ll go Okay, yeah, I get that you’re making an announcement about yourself but I can see clearly and obviously how this benefits me In Amazon tests out, you know, however many thousands of different little AB tests, they’re looking primarily to reduce friction.

    How can we make it easier for you to buy stuff from us right? You can now sort of drunkenly roll over and leave and accidentally order something on the smartest system.

    It’s still mumble it and it’ll it’ll ship you something, right that’s taking all the friction out of a transaction.

    And as a result, these things live everywhere and campaigns about them are pretty easy to understand how this thing benefits you.

    The big technology companies for all their faults have done a really good job of emphasizing how these little devices that benefit them right.

    Also benefit the customer and that’s that’s a case of a good case study for your own marketing initiatives, particularly when you’re trying to launch some anything new.

    But especially on these these bigger corporate marketing initiatives.

    So, in short, if it benefits the customer roll out, let the world know about it.

    It doesn’t benefit the customer.

    Keep quiet go about your business.

    That’s that’s the message at the end of the day.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Not Ready for Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Not Ready for Marketing?

    Stephen asks, “Have you ever told a prospective client that they’re not ready for marketing? What were your reasons for turning them away?”

    Yes, though it was usually for a specific type of marketing, not marketing as a whole. In terms of marketing as a whole, that’s usually a major failure of something like the 4Ps of marketing. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Steven asks, have you ever told a prospective client, they’re not ready for marketing? What were your reasons for turning them away? Yes, although typically it was because they weren’t ready for a specific type of marketing, not marketing as a whole.

    Telling someone, for example, they’re not ready for email marketing if they’ve not been collecting any email addresses or they’re not ready for social media marketing, because they haven’t quite figured out how to be a useful member of the community.

    Those are the the typical reasons for not using a certain marketing channel or a certain marketing method or set of tactics.

    It always came down to preparation Foundation, a plan of some kind, and those are the typical failures now for marketing as a whole.

    That’s more Companies not ready for marketing when they haven’t done the four P’s.

    So if you don’t remember from your marketing textbook in college, the four P’s are product price promotion placement, right? It is, do you have a product? Is it priced appropriately for the market? Are you promoting it? And then Where? Where are you promoting it? And typically, somebody would not be ready for marketing.

    When those four fundamentals are not in place, but specifically the product is not ready.

    Product Market Fit is probably the most important overlooked thing that marketers and companies in general don’t do especially in startups.

    If you look at all the the new business pitches at various startup incubator demo days, a lot of the times to be charitable, they’re there.

    solutions in search of a problem.

    The Uber for French fries, for example, not really sure we need that.

    There’s, there’s, there may be a mild interest in that.

    But for the most part, the product doesn’t have a home in the heart of the consumer and be very difficult to be very difficult to get really great marketing for a product like that.

    Because people may say, Oh, that’s cool.

    And then not buy it.

    Right? We ran into this in the early days, with my company Trust Insights.

    We would focus a lot on AI and machine learning and people like Wow, that’s really cool.

    But then didn’t want to buy any of the services we had attached to that.

    So after about the after the first year, we really pivoted looking at what our customers were asking us about looking at the problems in the marketplace to really focus much more marketing analytics.

    I personally focus on marketing data science and AI.

    But the markets not ready, right? The product market fit was off.

    Even though people think it’s cool, even though people think it’s interesting, at the end of the day, AI and marketing is kind of like spreadsheets and marketing, right? It’s a technology, it’s not a solution that’s complete unto itself, say adding AI to marketing doesn’t make your marketing any better.

    So if you have a prospective client that fails one or more of the four P’s in your marketing mix, that’s a good indication that they’re not ready to begin the process of marketing.

    They need to price their product appropriately.

    their product has to be worth buying.

    They need a plan for promotion.

    They need to understand the place of the marketing.

    And there are plenty of companies even companies that are ready Literally mature, where that product market fit.

    And the four P’s start to drift.

    Really good example of this is the former and almost completely gone a Blockbuster Video.

    They thought that they were in the video business, they were actually in the plastic cassette distribution business.

    And when a company came that recognize the marketplace had changed its its idea of where place was based.

    Namely, people want a video at their homes and they having DVDs they could be mailed to them was a critical and oversight, right their product market fit for a couple of decades was great.

    And their marketing mix for a couple decades was great.

    And then it wasn’t they the market change they didn’t so even a company that is in production that is maybe even a mature company can drift apart from the marketplace.

    itself.

    And so the four P’s are something that you can’t do once launch your company and then hope that you attract the customers you attract.

    Even if you’re successful, you have to constantly be keeping an eye on the marketplace and say, Are we still in alignment with the market? Or has the market changed on us? I was talking to a customer not too long ago when dealing with the hotel stuff like yeah, our hotel business live is not growing.

    Like Well, yeah.

    Have you heard of this thing called Airbnb? It’s eating your market share.

    Of course, there’s a clear case of out of sync issues with the market.

    So in those cases, a company should stop marketing or scale back drastically, and figure out how to realign with the markets and then go back into doing marketing but yeah, they should not be doing marketing if they don’t understand What’s happening with the market itself? marketing we use as a verb in a lot of cases.

    But it is also we forget that now the market is who we are marketing to.

    So how do you handle telling your client this start with a framework like the four P’s or pestle or Porter’s five forces or four P’s and illustrate clearly to the client perspective or not, where the market is, where they are, and which one of these pieces within the framework that you choose is seriously broken in it and will be a waste of their marketing dollars.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Instagram Content Strategy and Following?

    You Ask, I Answer: Instagram Content Strategy and Following?

    Rachel asks, “I’m working with a new client in the wines and spirits industry. Currently, they are following everyone under the sun (Justin Bieber, Complex, KKW etc). Who would you recommend they do follow? For example, because they are a cocktail mix brand, they are following the liquor brands that people mix their product with.”

    Thinking about who to follow I presume is so you understand what people are doing, a source of inspiration. I would do a different kind of analysis. Who has your customer? Who are those people? Follow them instead. Who do they follow? Use that information to create compelling content. Watch the video for a more thorough explanation.

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    In today’s episode Rachel asks, I’m working with a new client and the wine and spirits industry.

    Currently, they’re following everyone under the sun like Justin Bieber, who would you recommend they do follow, for example, because they’re a cocktail mix brand, they are following liquor brands that people mix their cocktail with.

    So thinking about who to follow, I presume is to try and better understand the customer and perhaps look for a source of inspiration for what you should be posting on your Instagram account.

    I don’t know that’s going to provide a lot of insight because you’re looking at it from the business perspective, you know, what do similar businesses do? And I would focus on a different kind of analysis, I would turn my attention away from similar businesses, at least right now and look more carefully at the customer who is the customer who, what do they like what do they read etc.

    And the easiest way to get started with is with using Facebook’s Audience Insights.

    So let’s go ahead and bring this up here.

    So here we have Facebook Audience Insights, I’m going to make it as clear out all my stuff here.

    And let’s say that I’m interested in the people who like my page, right.

    And so these are the pages I run.

    And what I see here is I see rep, equal gender representation, which is interesting.

    And I see a definite age skew in the 35 to 54 range, right.

    And I also see, disproportionately married, disproportionately higher educated.

    So that gives me a sense of who my audience is.

    So if I go into the 35 range up here, and let’s go ahead and advanced here education, graduate school, relationship status, married.

    Now that’s essentially my audience.

    What is this audience like? Actually, it’s now that download 54 on the upper end.

    There we go.

    So I just want that segment which we saw was over represented.

    This gives me a sense of the other things that this audience of mine tends to like, right we have some politicians, we have some podcasts that might be a useful place, we do some advertising, we have shopping and retail.

    We have TV networks, media, TV shows.

    And this level of information now tells me more about my customer.

    it to a fair degree, right people who are similar to my audience, what I should be doing is looking at every one of these brands, particularly ones that where there’s a lot of overlap with or some connection to the the product or service that I that I work with, and find ways to analyze the followers of those brands but on Instagram I’m using Facebook as the triangulation here, want to go and follow those accounts on Instagram, see what is in the media diet of my audience? What are the things they’re seeing over and over again, and engaging with a tool like Facebook’s CrowdTangle would be a good tool to, to get a good sense of sort of the top 10% of engaging content.

    And then with this information, I might want to then try and narrow down even further.

    So let’s take a look through here really quickly, and see what are the things that other things that strongly overlap.

    I want to do let’s look at people who are interested in podcasts.

    Right, so now we’ve cut that audience down significantly, but now we have some different podcasts.

    And we have all these different types of interests.

    This is what you would call a double unicorn strategy.

    This is a term Larry Kim uses over at MobileMonkey.

    And the the double unicorn strategy essentially says find different things that allow you to create content that just speaks out to that audience so strongly, because your content that you’ll post on Instagram or wherever seems like it’s tailor made for that audience.

    So let’s look at a couple things.

    Here.

    We have some parenting stuff, we have Rei, we have the points guy.

    So if I was creating interesting creative for my stuff, I would be looking at how can I weave in ideas about saving money on travel? I’d be looking at weaving and how to get some time outside.

    And since I run a marketing podcast, I might be thinking about how can I either weave that into segments onto the show, or in Instagram content, maybe some tips Hey, while you’re traveling for business, here’s some ways to save some money while you’re traveling for business.

    Here’s ways to get out side and save money, right? You got that intersection of those of those interests and that kind of content when somebody who’s in this audience sees it goes, You understand me, you get me, you know what I’m all about? So the same thing that I just showed, here’s what I would do with this cocktail mix company, who’s your audience? What are those demographics? Start building a look alike? Audience, essentially? And what are those interests? What are the content that’s in there? What are the ideas that you can pull out of there? Again, using great research tools, you can use CrowdTangle, you can use Talkwalker.

    You can use any of the major social media monitoring tools to extract out from Instagram, what are the what’s in the media diet of those people that they engage with, and then use that to build really strong campaigns that are organic in nature, you can and should put some paid dollars behind it as well.

    But it will dictate very clearly how to go after an audience based on what it is that that audience wants to see not necessarily like what other liquor brands dream but what other brands in general doing that can appeal to that you can weave your product and service into very well when you look for example let’s go ahead and clear all this out here I have a suspicion let’s look at people who are interested in peloton right the product or service or the business when you look at this audience if I then put in who this audiences and we take out these interests and look at people who just like Jen you see some of the very same brands like Blue Apron like Whole Foods and things like that.

    So when we talk about you know how how clever it was for aviation gin to go after the peloton, add we’re forgetting the data side of things right.

    There was a Clear overlap in audiences, they knew that that was their audience.

    And so a rapid response campaign, obviously did very well have this had this audience been very different, it might not have worked as well.

    But knowing your audience allows you to do some of those really creative activation, so give this a shot.

    Again, this is all free.

    It’s all based on your existing data, and try and find those overlaps.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Planning Out 2020 Marketing Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Planning Out 2020 Marketing Strategy?

    Lauren asks, “I’m planning out 2020 and I’m curious….what tools do you use? Is there a template, worksheet, planner, or process that you swear by?”

    For marketing, I take my Google Analytics traffic from the last couple of years and run a predictive analytics algorithm to forecast next year’s traffic. Then I look at the traffic numbers, plus my existing conversion rates, to determine whether I’ll be ahead or behind goals for the year ahead, by channel (email, social, etc.) and make plans to fix the weak spots and double down on the good spots. Watch the video for a walkthrough.

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    Christopher Penn 0:07 In today’s episode Lauren asks, I’m planning out 2020.

    I’m curious, what tools do you use? Is there a template, a worksheet planner or process that you swear by? for marketing? Yes.

    What I swear by is using predictive analytics to forecast forward what’s likely to happen so that I can make decisions whether I like what I’m looking at or not.

    This is based on Google Analytics data because Google Analytics is probably one of our most reliable sources of data for marketing is it has its issues as all systems do.

    But if you can work around those issues, and extract the data out in and put it into more advanced statistical software for analysis, it’s incredibly valuable.

    What you can do with it is just astonishing.

    So let’s actually let’s take a look at an example here first, before We do anything else actually want to bring up? One of the more important things to do is do traffic driver analysis to figure out what is it that zoom to fit here? What matters.

    Because if you don’t know what matters, what’s working in your analytics, then you can’t make any decisions from it.

    So looking at your goals and your goal values in Google Analytics, assuming you’ve got good goals set up, what is making those goals happen.

    Now, again, Google Analytics stores all this data for you.

    It’s just got to get it out and process it.

    So in this case, this is a customer journey mapping from my website.

    And the size of the numbers indicates the importance of any given channel.

    So here, medium drove 7% of the conversions to my website.

    That’s interesting.

    I didn’t actually know that.

    So that’s something to keep in mind.

    Google organic search from Google itself.

    65% of my conversions in the last two months, that’s a huge number.

    That’s actually a little concerning.

    Because if I am not diversifying my traffic sources, I am vulnerable to a massive algorithm changes that could substantially diminish my ability to attract new audiences.

    So that’s a little concerning.

    It’s good, I guess, but not great.

    An email, about 6% of my conversions, give or take YouTube actually looking good, you know, small but but real growth, their traffic from Trust Insights, which I’m happy to see.

    There’s a Moodle instance here, which is interesting.

    Moodle is a online course management software.

    So someone has a link to my website in one of their courses.

    And that’s pretty cool.

    We also see the usual suspects here, Facebook, LinkedIn, and so on and so forth.

    Those channels are not referring nearly as much traffic to me.

    So I have a pretty good sense of you know, referral traffic particularly from medium organic search and email are sort of the three channels I need to pay attention to.

    So let’s go over to a traffic forecast.

    So this is a traffic forecast.

    You can see the channel groupings here.

    The data is extracted using the our programming language, and then visualized in the software choice I use Tableau for this because I like tableau.

    So year to date, I’m getting about 20, almost 30,000 visitors a month from organic search, I’m getting about 2000 visitors a mother referral traffic 1300 social 1200 an email and granted this is this number is not file for this quarter because the court is not over yet.

    Looking forward.

    The predictive software that I’m using is indicating that I’m actually looking at a pretty substantial decline in organic search traffic.

    Let’s switches over to yearly view Looking at a deficit of about 20,000 visitors next year from organic certified referral traffic scoring, which is good by email and social traffic or about flat, but that organic search gap is really concerning.

    And it’s doubly concerning because a there’s a traffic loss here.

    But now, if we refer back to that customer journey mapping, right, this one here where we saw organic search being 66% of my traffic, that’s an uncomfortable place to be.

    So the question is now from a planning perspective going into 2020 do I diversify my traffic to try and make up for that gap? Do I double down on my search efforts and try and fix what’s wrong with my search strategy? Do I look for, for example, Bing is in my my customer journey about 2%? Do I do some optimization for being to try and diversify even my organic search sources? These are now questions that will form the basis of my 2020 planning.

    Now, knowing my website, knowing how I run it This is my personal site is not the company’s website is not something that is a strong commercial interest.

    I’m going to try to improve my email, I make sure that it continues to be valuable and and boost the numbers of visitors from email to my website.

    I’m going to continue to grow YouTube, I’m going to do a lot more on medium.

    Clearly I have to, and because it’s such a large portion and up because I don’t put pay, I don’t pay money to promote my personal website.

    I have to improve my organic search.

    There’s, if this was a company like Trust Insights, and I had ad budget, where I was willing to put in AD budget, I should say click, I could spend money on my website, but I don’t.

    Then I would want to try and bolster some of my strong points in organic search with some paid search.

    That would be a logical strategic thing to do.

    If this was a business in this case, it’s not because again, it’s a personal website.

    So I’m going to just strengthen what I can and look to diversify traffic sources away from organic search being so heavy for my site.

    So that’s the process, and the plan and the template that I used to do strategic planning.

    Because without this, you just kind of guessing like, oh, let’s do more of this and seem to work really well this this past year.

    Well know if you use well established statistical algorithms for forecasting time series forecasting, you can get a sense of what’s likely to happen, and then decide how important is a loss of traffic in this area? How important is the loss of traffic and this year? How important is the gain of traffic in this area? And then what do you choose to do from that? So that’s the process I personally would use and recommend.

    It does require, in this case, customs coast custom code to build the software that makes these predictions.

    But once you have it once you have the ability to do That forecasting, you can make data driven, well informed decisions.

    And in this case, if this was, if this was a company, I would know what’s likely to happen in the year to come, I would know where I’m going to be week, and then get ahead of that, right.

    So in sort of that this time next year, if I this was a company, it’s not, but if this is a company, I wouldn’t be sitting in my CEO, oops, sorry, we missed our targets by 20%.

    I would know in advance that we are likely to miss our targets and therefore can compensate for that by planning ahead with this type of software.

    So that’s the process.

    If you’d like help doing this again, something that my company does do.

    happy to chat about, just stop by Trust insights.ai.

    But as always, if you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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