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  • You Ask, I Answer: Media Value of Reddit Posts?

    You Ask, I Answer: Media Value of Reddit Posts?

    Clifton asks, “Does anyone know how to calculate the media value for a post on Reddit?”

    This question leads towards the metric that won’t die: ad value equivalency (or cost equivalence). AVE makes the assumption that if a post performs organically, then its performance should be benchmarked against what you would have paid for the same placement. AVE is bad for many, many reasons:
    – Organic and paid user behaviors are different
    – Organic and paid channels may occupy different parts of the customer journey
    – Cost is not result
    – Much better metrics exist

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    In today’s episode Clifton asks, Does anyone know how to calculate the media value for a post on Reddit? This question leads towards the metric that simply won’t die.

    And that is add value equivalents are cost equivalents.

    Cost equivalence functions have been around for a really long time.

    And in the past, they kind of made sense.

    They were originally intended to be used with newspapers.

    And because newspapers charged advertising by the square inch.

    And so if you had to pay for a square inch of an article, basically as an ad, and you got that square inch for free, you would say that you save that amount of money.

    add value equivalence is not it’s not completely invalid, because there is some there is some opportunity cost, an opportunity cost is a real economic thing, right? If you don’t have to pay for something, you by default save that money.

    But the reason cost equivalence is a bad choice for metrics is because it makes some very broad assumptions about the way customers behave.

    Cost equivalents is based on the assumption that if if a post like on Reddit performs organically put it there organically, then its performance should be benchmarked against what you would have paid for the same placement.

    That might have been true in an era when you only had like one newspaper, right.

    But it’s now completely untrue for a variety of reasons.

    Number one, you know, from your own behavior, that user behaviors are different for unpaid versus paid media, you are probably less likely to engage with a piece of paid media content, except under certain circumstances, right.

    Most of the time, most people engage with organic content.

    So the behaviors are different.

    And you will see this if you do customer journey mapping with actual data, particularly digital customer journey mapping, which is something that I do a ton of, I will very often see the same channel, like Facebook, for example, or Reddit, in very different places in the customer journey, depending on whether it is paid or unpaid.

    Typically, not always.

    But typically, I will see paid be used to drive a lot of awareness, and then organic sort of help nurture and engage.

    Other organizations see opposite behaviors.

    They use organic produce I’ve awareness and paid to retargeting, but either way, the paid and the unpaid are different, right? They occupied different parts of the customer journey, they fulfilled different functions.

    So you cannot do cost equivalents because the behaviors are different.

    The third thing, the third reason why cost equivalents is bad, is because cost is not a result.

    Yes, saving money is a result.

    And if you have absolutely no other metric available to you, you can still use it just to say like we save this amount of money, but it is not a business result.

    Right, it is not a this is what this campaign did for us.

    It’s just this is what we didn’t spend on this, one of the bones I’ve had to pick with public relations professionals in the past is they would say, Well, you know, PR gets you placement that you would otherwise would have had to pay for it, yes, but you still had to do the PR, you still have to pay for it.

    If you’re paying a public relations firm, you know, 10,000 a month you are still spending money, you’re just spending it differently, that’s all.

    But cost is not a result.

    Unless you are only measured on how much money you do or don’t spend.

    If that’s the case, you might want to update your LinkedIn profile, because that’s not a particularly growth minded organization.

    So cost is not a result.

    And the corollary to that is that much better metrics exist.

    Especially if we’re talking about a digital channel like Reddit, like Reddit, there is no other form of Reddit, right? You can’t use Reddit on on your telephone, like old school telephone, not a smartphone, you can’t use read in paper form, there is only the digital channel, which means that there’s a click stream, for the most part that is trackable.

    And that you can see what did red traffic do on your website? Did it convert? Did you get goal completion out of it.

    If your marketing automation, your CRM are well connected, then you should be able to trace trace trace and track that all the way down to read it gave us a customer or didn’t give us a customer or at least a sales opportunity.

    And so you should be using, at the very least goal completions and Google Analytics as a benchmark for how did a post on Reddit to write if you get no goal completions.

    And maybe you want a more advanced analysis to measure brand strength, and you get nothing, then there is no media value of Reddit, right? Just like there is no media value, if nobody clicks on your search result, or nobody engages with your social media posts, and goes to your site and fills out a form.

    So you only use cost equivalence if there is nothing else at all right to measure.

    And if there’s nothing else at all to measure, you have you have much bigger marketing problems.

    The only other situation where costs equivalents is potentially usable, is if you have a non financial outcome to your marketing.

    That means the most common case is a politician, right? A vote is a non financial outcome you to win the election or you don’t.

    But there’s no metric of performance in that there’s no dollar amount to that maybe1 amount if you’re a corrupt politician take bribes later on.

    But that’s another story.

    But fundamentally, it’s a non financial outcome.

    So you may have some cost equivalents there as a proxy, but at the at the end of the day.

    The measure there really is you either want or didn’t win the election.

    Other than that, there is for most businesses in most situations, there are business impact metrics that you should be focusing on instead.

    So can you calculate a media value equivalents and add value equipments for a Reddit post? Yes, should you know absolutely should not instead focus on the results of drives.

    If you have no results because there’s no tracking, make that the first thing you do is figure out how to do the tracking better, so that you can more easily determine the real value of the work that you’re doing.

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  • #MarTechConf East 2019 Recap: Peak CDP, Point Solutions, and Privacy

    MarTech East 2019 Recap: Peak CDP, Point Solutions, and Privacy

    Some thoughts and looks back at the MarTech East 2019 event held by Third Door Media, Scott Brinker, and the MarTech team. Huge thanks to Scott and the Third Door Media team for inviting me to conduct a workshop with my CEO, Katie Robbert, and present on the topic of AI for marketers.

    • Operations is still the major focus
    • Buy still largely the focus rather than build
    • Point solutions for everything
    • Peak CDP
    • Privacy issues loom large – and CDPs aren’t helping
    • AI is still poorly understood but at least more companies are trying
    • I can’t believe we’re still talking about attribution

    MarTech East 2019 Recap: Peak CDP, Point Solutions, and Privacy

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    In today’s episode we are recapping the martek East Conference that I had a chance to speak at this week along with CEO Katie, where we did a three hour workshop on attribution.

    And then two days of conference talks.

    So let’s take a look at what the major themes were this year.

    martech has always been and and still is mostly about marketing operations is still the major focus.

    And that’s a great thing, because that’s an area where marketing tends to be very deficient.

    One of the interesting things that was running through attendees minds over certainly was a major topic of both morning’s breakfast was that by versus build is still largely the focus, people are talking about normalizing their martek stack and you know, adding tools and gaps and stuff.

    And it’s astonishing to me that the first impulse of a marketing operations person or chief marketing officer is something’s not working, let’s buy some more stuff.

    That there’s a reason why Scott Brinker is martech loom escape the huge landscape with all those logos 8000 of them.

    There’s a reason why there’s 8000 logos, if that’s the mindset, people are enough, just buy more stuff to see if that fixes the problem.

    It doesn’t.

    But I thought that was interesting in the number of conversations I had with attendees, their instinct is let’s buy more stuff to try and fix the problems.

    Remember, we’re singing breakfast, the second day, listening to this person talk about how they, they felt like their stack was incomplete.

    And they needed some additional lead scoring technologies.

    And they needed some new regularization technologies and something to deal with synchronization.

    And I said, so what do you have in house for your stack? And I said, well, the major components are web analytics from Google Eloqua, salesforce.com, and ERP system.

    And then they listed like 15.

    Other tools, I’m like, you know that the 10 other tools that you have listed, they are duplicative of the some of the capabilities in the core platforms that you already know that I didn’t know that, well.

    I feel like there’s some more juice, you could squeeze out of the things you’re already paying for, before you go buy something new.

    That’s not to say you don’t ever need to buy something new, sometimes you absolutely do.

    And you need a point solution that provides a service or a function that just can’t get anywhere else.

    That’s a great opportunity to look at a point solution.

    But if you’re paying, you know, hundreds or thousands of dollars every month for these major platforms, it’s worth a deep dive into the manual to see what’s in there.

    So that was one of the major takeaways from the second we are at peak CDP customer data platforms.

    These are services that promise to extract and unify all your customer data give you you know, 360 degree view of the customer and all that stuff.

    And everybody in their cousin says they were CDP.

    Now, former data management platforms etc.

    Everybody, even tag management software is now claiming to be a CDP cd PS have a problem.

    And the problem is this they are a bandaid on poor process, governance and poor discipline when it comes to technology.

    If you need a third party piece of software to unify all of your data, it means that you do not have a good handle on your data.

    There are many, many really good database services, data extraction services, etc.

    That can perform the functions of a CDP but allow you to own your data rather than have a third party vendor managing it for you.

    And in a lot of cases, the CDP is it is a band aid because and it’s an expensive band aid.

    Because if you can’t find where all your data is matched up, yes, a piece of software can do that.

    But you should be already doing that you should already have good identifiers, normalized identifiers throughout your data.

    So that’s one aspect of what was interesting.

    The second was that privacy issues are on everyone radar, which is great GDPR still not being followed well by a lot of companies, and then CCP and like 13 of its variants also looming large on people’s minds.

    And I went to the expo hall and talk to about half a dozen CDP vendors and I asked them, How does your product help a marketer deal with these issues? And they said, Well, our our software all has these features that allow you to input the privacy policies of your choice.

    And you know, and then you configure it, and then you set it and then it will obey what you tell it to do.

    So that’s not helpful.

    Because if you are not familiar with the law already, you may miss implement or just not implement privacy features.

    And so the another point of contention with I have with these vendors is you’re not making people’s lives easier by automatically suggesting, hey, this field looks like an identity field, you should anonymize it.

    So that you are in compliance, the law.

    There is a lot of work to be done by a lot of vendors.

    I heard one vendor say, well, we’re GDPR compliant.

    So you’re automatically CCP a compliant, like, Nope, that’s not how that works.

    The laws are different, they are different enough that you do need to merge the different pieces and identify what sort of the strictest highest standards compliance is, that will automatically make you apply for both.

    But you have to merge those features together.

    In order to get to that simple example.

    GDPR is at the individual level, CPA is at the household level.

    And so your default for privacy has to be at the household level, if you want one policy to rule them all.

    Third point, Ai, still poorly understood by a lot of people but more companies are trying I did hear a number of people saying that we’re doing pilot deployments and things like that and seeing some good initial results.

    I saw one person from a pharmaceutical company talking about their data science and AI efforts mostly on conversion rate optimization, they were able to get 30% lift in about six months.

    Once they got all their their data untangled.

    And such that was a great thing.

    I see you glad to see that there’s progress being made there.

    And finally, I can’t believe we’re still talking about attribution.

    Not that it isn’t important because it is but that more companies have not made good progress on building their attribution models.

    Katie and I did a workshop.

    And it was a wide wild mix of people from people who were like, yep, we have a functional multi touch attribution model informed by machine learning to we don’t have anything yet.

    And it’s shocking to me that, you know, really, almost a decade after multi touch attribution models really started hitting the market that we’re still at a point where it’s not commonplace, at least on the digital side, at least on the digital side, right? I totally get merging offline and online is really difficult.

    And you need to have, you do need to have data science and machine learning capabilities.

    But there’s no reason not to be using multi touch attribution, at least on digital in digital marketing, because the data is there.

    The click stream is largely intact, and it will at least point you in the right direction.

    So those are some of the major highlights from our tech East fantastic conference.

    Huge thanks to Scott Brinker, the third door media team for having me come out and do a workshop and speak the if you want to see the session, go to where can I get the slides calm.

    Or just go to the trust insights website and you can watch the entire video from the session.

    But again, huge thanks to those folks and looking forward to to participating in more martech events.

    As always, please leave your questions below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: LinkedIn Contact Export Data Details?

    You Ask, I Answer: LinkedIn Contact Export Data Details?

    Keiko asks, “Is it possible to download Linkedin contacts with city or state location? Thank you!”

    Out of the box, the answer is no. You get first name, last name, title, and company, and the connection date, and that’s it from the official LinkedIn export. There are third party options, but they come at massive risk of having your profile banned for violation of the Terms of Service. There is a simple strategy which takes a serious amount of time, but is a valid workaround that obeys the Terms of Service. Watch the video for more details.

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    In today’s episode, Keiko asks, Is it possible to download LinkedIn contacts with city or state location? Thank you out of the box, the answer is no.

    In the official LinkedIn export what you get from your, if you go to your profile settings go to account, go into it manage your data, you can request an export of your LinkedIn connections.

    And what you get in that file is first name, last name, title, company and connection date.

    That’s what’s in the file, you no longer get any form of contact information except for those very, very few people who consent to having their email address listed publicly.

    LinkedIn took that away.

    November 2018, I believe was because way too many marketers were exporting their LinkedIn connections and then just adding every single person on their team to their email list and out that’s a it’s against the terms of service, but be it just irritated a lot of people.

    So that’s no longer available.

    And that would have been the easiest way to do that.

    So there are third party options, there are a number of vendors have created tools that will against the terms of service, scrape LinkedIn profiles, about your first degree connections, and assemble a download with all the relevant information, those tools will likely get you banned.

    Let’s put that out there, those tools will likely get you banned.

    And the reason for that is they they’re against the terms of service.

    They by crawling the LinkedIn website at speed, they are resource drain on LinkedIn.

    And here’s the funny thing.

    Each of them because they’re all paid services.

    They have certain API calls, they have certain things their own that the LinkedIn engineering team has sensibly built tools to identify to ping them.

    And if they’re installed in your browser, you’re in violation, your your profile gets flagged and you get banned from LinkedIn, which is kind of against the point whole point of LinkedIn, you don’t want to get bent.

    So how do you do this? The simple, straightforward, long term play the requires time requires effort requires resources.

    But there’s a valid workaround that obeys the terms of service is this on a regular frequent basis, share content on LinkedIn, that people go to your website, fill out a form, where you can ask them these questions like your city, your state, your country, all that stuff.

    And as long as the content is sufficiently compelling enough, a certain percentage of people will do it.

    So that requires haven’t gotten people actually want.

    And they’re willing to fill out a form for.

    And it requires your time and effort over a long period of time to consistently share this thing to give it away.

    collecting that information.

    So it’s got to be great, it’s got to be free, it’s got to be something that you promote on a regular basis.

    And it has to be valuable to your connections, and you will get a percentage of your connections to convert is no different than any other lead generation program.

    And you can absolutely run ads, to your connections, your company’s connections, all that stuff to promote this thing.

    And you’ll get that data.

    Now the question is, is that data valuable? It can be, especially if on the form you’re collecting email addresses.

    I would also suggest that all of your form pages, well, I would suggest that you create a landing page specifically for LinkedIn, you only use it on LinkedIn, right so that it is likely not guaranteed, but likely that the traffic going to that page is from LinkedIn.

    And I would strongly encourage you to incur to install some ad cooking software on their ad tracking software that allows you to enroll the people who visit that page into a tracking audience.

    I use a company called stack adapt, which you’ll find a link in the show notes below.

    And when you do that, you can further refine your city and state but then you can reach out to those people by who visit that page with ads, retargeting them, and get them to come back or get them to participate in a different offer of some kind.

    Stack adapt is terrific.

    But there are obviously a million different ad services out there.

    I like stacked up because they have a very low minimum for advertising 300 bucks per campaign, which, if you’re creating something of value and is driving your business, you should be able to find 300 bucks.

    Now if it’s like for your personal email newsletter, or something like that, then yeah, it’s a little steep.

    But for a business, you should be able to find 300 bucks, you can’t you have bigger problems.

    So that’s the strategy, create content people want.

    Share it on LinkedIn, get them fill out that form.

    And then enroll them in your ad system so that you can continue to target them, identify them.

    Make sure obviously things like Google Analytics for installed on the page, make sure that you are capturing the first three sections of someone’s IP version four address, you’ll always want to anonymize the last octet because of GDPR and CCP compliance, but those first three digits will give you city state for sure.

    Or by province.

    But yeah, the easiest way, ask people ask people that information.

    with the understanding that obviously, every additional field you put on a form is reduces that that forms conversion rate.

    But if it’s important to you do it that way, I would say if you get the export of that first last title company, then you can do first last match on first last first last email and on the form and then match that to your connections to get title the company slip, someone doesn’t have to fill out the form of that.

    And then get the location data that way as well.

    postal code is probably the easiest thing to capture.

    And then you can reverse engineer that based on you know, zip databases in the US Postal Service in the UK, etc, etc.

    Each of these countries has a database for that sort of thing.

    So that’s the strategy.

    It’s not guaranteed it won’t get 100% of your connections, but it will get the connections that are interested in you and interested in the content that you share.

    The other thing is you need to be creating content have value all the time on LinkedIn over a long period of time so that people trust you, like you engage with with you, and then are likely to engage with that ask so make sure that you spend a year or two doing that first.

    So good question needs to be a lot easier in the old days but as always marketers ruined everything so please leave follow up questions in the comments below.

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  • Content Marketing World #CMWorld Day 2 Recap

    Content Marketing World Day 2 Recap

    In today’s recap, we look at the top presentations and noteworthy themes throughout CMWorld Day 2. What resonated? What were the main takeaways? Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode round, recapping yesterday day to a content marketing world, tons tons of really fun, entertaining content, useful content, we started the day with Robert rose, doing a recap of content marketing where it stands now, fundamentally, a whole bunch of people are still doing content without a strategy, a whole bunch of people are not measuring content effectively.

    And the impact on surprisingly, is that content at ROI are are difficult to connect together.

    And they don’t have to be.

    I know from my own experience, just getting good at Google Analytics will fix a lot of those problems for you.

    But you just have to be good at it and become good at it.

    Second, really good talk was by Joe glitzy recapping his seven laws of content marketing, and probably the ones I thought were really the most impactful were selling your your content, marketing, or any of your marketing internally, doing as much internally as you can, as well as externally.

    Joe talked about making sure that people understand what the value of the content is, and what the role is.

    After that, Tamsin Webster took the stage for how to get to the green light, how to get people to approve your ideas.

    And the fundamental talk is really good.

    The fundamental tenet was, people will not do things, if it oppose their own sincerely held belief that they are good, capable, smart people.

    And a lot of her she came out with a very strong message for marketers who market nothing but you know, making people feel bad.

    making people feel uncomfortable in that pain, such as the pain, the pain is short term action, you can make somebody feel pain, but it only incites the short term action, as opposed to getting somebody to change and stay change.

    They have to feel good about themselves.

    And so there’s a lot of nuance to how you sell.

    But fundamentally, you have to not oppose somebody’s beliefs in themselves.

    And there’s a lot of marketing out there, which is condescending, egotistical self centered on the marketer, or the company that violates that.

    And then the marketers wonder why they’re not selling anything else, because you’re not fundamentally making people feel better about themselves.

    And if you can get that over that internally, and change your messaging, you’ll do much better.

    That was a fun talk.

    After that, spend some time with our friend and trust insights board member full disclosure, Ginny Dietrich, who talked about the ways that agencies need to change their content marketing in Jenny’s session.

    The main thing the main emphasis was not trying to do as all the content marketing, but trying to develop a strong, focused video content marketing that powers your sales funnel.

    And working on what it takes to wouldn’t bet piece of content needs to be very, very useful.

    After Ginny’s session, enjoyed liotta and session on your content marketing, fitness, getting your great content marketing Beachbody.

    The big thing from last session was there wasn’t anything in there that was like oh my God, we didn’t know that.

    It was all stuff that everybody knows.

    And nobody does just like fitness.

    Right? I was one of his main points, you know what fitness looks like, you know how to get to a state of fitness and health, eat less, exercise more, eat less bad ground, right? We don’t do it.

    We just know it.

    And his point in this session was, you know what to do with content marketing.

    But that doesn’t mean you’re doing it.

    So make sure that you are spending time and effort and energy on doing the things you know, will lead to content marketing fitness.

    After that was an hand session, which I think was probably the most entertaining of the day.

    But also useful in a lot of the basics of what your marketing should be about.

    Your marketing should be relatable.

    She had, was it time, times truth equals connection, because you need to to build the relationship time times affinity, which is your likability and reliability and making sure that you’re doing all three? Because that’s how you get to the business relationship you want with people answered a really fun thing.

    Can I have your attention? is the equivalent saying Can I have your trust me, I have your trust, even for a moment.

    And it is that trust, that then allows you to market actively to somebody, but you have to earn it.

    And it takes time.

    And it takes that reliability.

    And it takes creating stuff that is truthful.

    There was a lot of emphasis across the board on many of the speakers on those basics.

    Create material that is truthful, that is relatable, that is useful and entertaining.

    And I think it’s interesting that it shows you the level of maturity of the content marketing space, that there really wasn’t anything like, oh, my goodness, I’ve never seen this before.

    But you’re still doing it.

    We as marketers are still not doing content marketing.

    Well, at this point, content marketing is decades old, has profession.

    People have been creating content for the purpose of marketing and selling really, at scale.

    For seven decades, maybe eight decades, ever since mass media, radio and television became available.

    Then even in the digital marketing space, which is really where I think content marketing world spends most of its time as it should.

    The fact that we’re rehashing the same lessons over and over again says two things.

    One, the space is mature, which is good.

    Because that means there are proven practices you can use to get up to speed quickly and to there’s a revolving door problem.

    We’ve seen this in social media as well, I’d say this after every Social Media Marketing World, the fact that we spent so much time on the basics all the time, and that we have to keep reaching the basics really shows the negative impact of the revolving door in companies.

    Anytime somebody gets to a role in their company, where they have achieved some level of success, they get promoted and moved on.

    And then you have some new person and the new, there’s nothing wrong with being a new person, we’re all new, the new person at one time.

    But that new person does not inherit any of the training any of the knowledge, any of the experience of the person, they just replaced them.

    There’s they’re starting from scratch again.

    And when they do, then they come to content marketing world.

    They say, Here I am, please teach me the basics.

    And we do.

    And that’s good, they get value out of it.

    They understand the value of it.

    But it means that the profession as a whole is not advancing.

    If you’re never doing anything more than the basics you’re not researching and training and innovating and inventing the profession as a whole does not advance as quickly as it could or should.

    So one of the things that we have to think about marketers and as marketing professionals is what comes next for ourselves.

    What does that leap from basic to intermediate to advanced look like and who are the practitioners who need and want to pursue advanced where, how do we get those folks in a room? while continuing to teach the basics.

    Let’s continue to teach the basics.

    But how do we get the advanced stuff in the room so that we can continue to grow the profession and innovate.

    So some things to think about heading into day three today.

    I’ll be speaking twice due to some speaker cancellation.

    So looking forward to that and we’ll see you there if you’re around.

    If not catch up tomorrow.

    On the recap of today.

    Thanks for watching.

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  • What’s In Your Golden Cookbook for Marketing Strategy?

    What's In Your Golden Cookbook for Marketing Strategy?

    People familiar with sales and marketing know of the Golden Rolodex, the list of high-level contacts that truly successful salespeople bring with them to each new position. They have a treasure trove of contacts who they call on to drum up business and make a huge impact from the day they’re hired.

    Salespeople who are in later stages of their career succeed or fail largely on the power and reach of their Golden Rolodex; indeed, by the time any executive reaches the C-Suite, they’re expected to have a variation of the Golden Rolodex. Public relations people have their portfolio of journalists. CEOs have their political and executive contacts. CFOs have their personal accounting SWAT team.

    What I’ve seen very rarely in sales and especially marketing, except in the consulting world, is the Golden Cookbook.

    What is the Golden Cookbook?

    The Golden Cookbook is a compendium of the strategies, tactics, frameworks, blueprints, and plans that have delivered great success in our work in the past, or that we’ve invented. Instead of needing to reinvent the wheel every time we change careers, we bring our Golden Cookbook with us.

    From the first day on the job, we identify which recipes in the Golden Cookbook best fit the organization and help re-align the organization’s strategies and tactics to our known, best practice recipes.

    Why is the Golden Cookbook Important?

    A major part of succeeding, especially in more strategic roles, is assuring key stakeholders that we have experience, that we’ve done things before that have succeeded.

    Part of the reason people trust major consulting brands like McKinsey, BCG, Accenture, and others is that they have well-defined cookbooks. These consulting shops develop frameworks, models, and strategies which they test and prove, then roll into a cookbook that consultants use for all kinds of businesses. Many of the frameworks are generic enough to apply to lots of different industries, but specific enough to show where a company is inside or outside the guardrails of best practices.

    I’ve experienced this in my work in consulting. Few things reassure clients, especially new clients, like opening up a Golden Cookbook in front of them, scrolling through hundreds of pages, and finding the strategy, map, model, or framework which addresses their problem. The magic words, “Oh, we’ve seen this problem before, and here’s how we solved it” along with the appropriate page from your cookbook are instantly reassuring. They see the years of practice and research in front of them, and they feel reassured that they’ve made a smart choice, hired someone who has extensive experience.

    What Goes Inside Your Golden Cookbook?

    Think of the Golden Cookbook as an almost literal cookbook. What goes in a recipe?

    • Topic/theme (i.e. main course, dessert, etc.)
    • Ingredients
    • Directions
    • Expected Outcome

    Our Golden Cookbooks should be similar.

    What strategy, map, model, or framework helps us succeed in…

    • Email marketing
    • Social media marketing
    • SEO
    • PPC
    • Native advertising
    • Content marketing
    • etc.

    In my personal Golden Cookbook, I also add in other recipes I find in my research, reading, and work. My Golden Cookbook is a mix of my own material plus reputable third-party materials. What are some of the third-party materials? Many are classic strategic models:

    • SWOT
    • PESTLE
    • Porter’s 5 Forces
    • Agile Development Cycle
    • etc.

    How Do You Start Building a Golden Cookbook?

    Start by firing up the document management system of your choice – Microsoft OneNote, Evernote, PowerPoint, whatever works for you.

    Go through your work experience to date, whether that be a year or a lifetime, and write down:

    • Every framework you remember using at work
    • Every strategic model you remember learning in business school or on the job
    • Every story or solution of success you’ve built or been a part of

    Then start making documents. They could be hand drawings, written narratives, bullet-point recipes, slides, whatever you work with best.

    Save this document (and make a backup copy!) and add to it as you remember more things or as you read and discover new strategies.

    While it won’t be immediate (unless you’ve already got a couple of decades under your belt), if you maintain your Golden Cookbook actively, you’ll wake up one day in the future and realize you have a treasure trove at your fingertips.


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  • The Evolution of the Data-Driven Company

    The Evolution of the Data-Driven Company

    What does it mean to be a data-driven company? Companies generally aren’t created as data-driven, data-centric entities from the beginning; for most companies, it’s an evolution in their culture and strategy, a journey that can take years.

    To become data-driven, companies evolve through five stages:

    The Evolution of the Data-Driven Company

    • Data-resistant
    • Data-curious
    • Data-aware
    • Data-savvy
    • Data-driven

    Data-Resistant

    The mantra of the data-resistant company is “We’ve always done it this way” – a painful refrain for any progress-minded executive. Organizations typically begin as data-resistant for a variety of reasons:

    • Data might uncover hidden performance issues
    • Data might highlight individual contributions that are politically difficult
    • Data might undercut the message/brand
    • Data might show the organization has a misaligned strategy

    Making the transition out of data resistance is typically an entrepreneurial effort from within; someone who needs performance to improve in their domain begins to harness data without an organizational mandate.

    Data-Curious

    The data-curious company knows of the existence of data within its walls, and understands that the data has implicit value, even if that value has not been unlocked. Data-curious companies focus on the collection of data, and are often made aware of data’s potential value through vendors and systems:

    • Web analytics
    • Social media analytics
    • CRM/Sales force automation
    • ERP systems
    • Financial planning and accounting

    What’s in the data? What riches might it hold? The transition from data-curious to data-aware comes from a desire to unlock the value of the data a company has gathered.

    Data-Aware

    The data-aware company works to extract any kind of value from data. Data-aware companies focus on analysis, on what happened in the data. What does the data say? What occurred? This stage in a company’s evolution is what I call the tool parade; as companies explore their data, a parade of tools and vendors march in and out, such as:

    • Data storage and warehousing
    • Data analysis
    • ETL (extract, transform, and load)
    • Cloud and on-demand computing

    The data-aware company unlocks tactical value from its data: “let’s not do that again” and “let’s do more of that”. It uses findings from its data in production. Many companies get stuck in the data-aware stage for years – the tactical wins are enough to satisfy stakeholders, and the returns on investment of moving to the next stage don’t seem to justify the costs for some time.

    The transition into data-savvy typically occurs after the parade of vendors and tools gets old: “What are we spending all this money on?” is the question we’ll hear in an organization ready to make the leap to the next phase.

    Data-Savvy

    The data-savvy company realizes that the value of data isn’t just tactical; data can be a strategic asset. To develop that strategic value, a data-savvy company continues its investment in the what but then turns its attention to why, to the development of insights.

    • Why did sales dip last quarter?
    • Why did consumers buy less of our product?
    • Why did lead generation spike in the fourth week of the month?
    • Why did X work but Y didn’t?

    The data-savvy company develops insights; by definition, insight means to look within. No amount of tools or vendors will substitute for the inward investigation into our data and analytics practices. Even when we look out through tools like surveying and ethnography, we are still looking at what we can do internally in our organization to explain why something happened.

    The transition into a data-driven organization occurs once we’ve developed concrete insights into what happened and why. Once we deliver these insights to our stakeholders, their first question should be, “Okay, so what are you going to do about it?”. This is the trigger to become data-driven.

    Data-Driven

    The data-driven company combines data, analysis, and insights to answer the question of “what next?”. Through the use of data at every level, in every part of the organization, the data-driven company adopts data as a strategic resource. We’ll often hear things like this in a data-driven organization:

    • Based on the data, we should increase investment in X next quarter by 23%.
    • Our analysis of why our email marketing failed indicates our campaign wasn’t mobile-friendly; all future campaigns will be responsive in design.
    • When asked, our customers told us they hate our neon orange product color; through testing and surveying, a muted gold color will prove to be more customer-friendly.

    The decisions made by data-driven organizations encapsulate the data, what happened, why, and what next in clean, concise statements which indicate the next action to be taken. Data is a strategic asset that powers every major decision made; in a truly data-driven organization, every planning meeting begins with data, and no decision is executed without a governance structure to collect and measure the decision.

    Becoming Data-Driven

    The evolution of a company into a data-driven organization begins with entrepreneurial efforts, but at the end of the process requires adoption throughout the organization. Without buy-in at every level, an organization cannot become truly data-driven.

    That said, even if an entire company does not become data-driven, you as an individual stakeholder can adopt data-driven practices to improve the part of the organization you have control over. These five stages aren’t just organizational distinctions; they’re also the map of your career as you become a data-driven professional.

    Above and beyond the value of using the data itself, this journey to being data-driven is an essential foundational piece for companies that aspire to use data science, machine learning, and artificial intelligence. No company can succeed in AI if it is not already data-driven.

    Disclosure: This post was originally written in 2016 and has been updated over time.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Analyze Business Data?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Analyze Business Data?

    Andrea asks, “What is your go-to strategy to analyze your business data?”

    The exploratory data analysis process is a very straightforward, proven one:
    – Goal and strategy
    – Data collection
    – Attribute classification – dimensions and metrics, data types
    – Univariate analysis
    – Multivariate analysis
    – Data quality analysis – missing, NaN, inf, -inf
    – Anomaly and breakout analysis
    – Data requirement verification
    – Data preparation – centering, scaling, etc.
    – Feature extraction
    – Feature augmentation
    – Feature selection
    – Modeling
    – Other applications

    This process is one that you cannot shortcut if you you want a good outcome.

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    In today’s episode, Andrea asks, What is your go to strategy to analyze your business data? That strategy is generally the same.

    It’s a defined process, regardless of what kind of business data you’re looking at marketing data, sales, data, finance data, and so on and so forth.

    And it is a many, many, many step process that in the data science world is called exploratory data analysis.

    And what that means is exactly what it sounds like, explore the data to find out what’s in the box, like, what are the things that are in this data set that we need to know about in order to make decisions about its quality? Can we use this thing? Can is the data any good? and so on and so forth? So let’s look at those steps.

    Number one.

    What is your goal and strategy for the data? And this is specific to the the data itself? Do you have a data strategy around the state? Do you know what you’re going to use it for? Do you know why you have it? You know how you got it? That part is vital, because there’s this thing called lineage which is part of governance, that is essential for understanding where the data came from, and being able to in an audit document where you got it from, and and that it was, it maintains integrity throughout your pipeline.

    Second step, of course, is data collection got to get the data from somewhere.

    The third step is attribute classification.

    What have you got in the state of what are the dimensions? What are the metrics? What is the categorical continuous variables? And what are the data types? If you think about something like a sequel database, the sequel database can have many, many different types of data, variable character line fields, numeric fields, integers, floating point fields, can have binary fields, large text blocks.

    So what is what is the stuff right? What? What kind of data did you get? The next step is once you know what you have, doing what’s called unitary analysis, and that means when you’re doing basic statistics on the fields that you’ve gotten this data, so for numerical fields, what’s the average or the mean? What’s the median central tendency? first, second, third, core tiles? What are the the summaries of numeric fields for non numeric fields? What are the width of length of the fields? What are the types of fields that they are the number of counts, number of distinct entities, if you get a bunch of, for example, first names, how many times is the name Julie up here, within that, that field, so you have to do this university analysis and create and collect statistics about the different types of data that you have.

    You may also at this point, do some sorting, just to get some a rough sense of what are the most prominent features.

    The second step is multivariate analysis, where you start looking at relationships between fields.

    For example, you have first names, you have last names, you have certain first names go with certain last names, you have birth date, to the certain years, months, days that have relationships to certain types of names.

    So multivariate analysis, lets you understand the different types of relationships in a data set for something like, for example, commute, a consumer finance, you could look at, say complaints, what are the the the strength of the complaints? How long are they? And is there a relationship between the length of the complaint and the strength of the complaint to people who are angry or leave longer complaints, for example? So that’s a multivariate analysis.

    After that, you have to do data quality analysis, What’s missing? What’s what things that have errors? What things have values that are outside the bounds of what you would expect? Do you need to do any kind of data preparation? This will help you answer that question.

    After that comes anomaly in breakout analysis, which is, okay, say that they do have? Are there weird spikes in? Are there trends are there trends and changes, especially if there’s time involved a time series.

    So not only breakout detection, very important, then you get to a really important part, which is called Data requirement verification.

    In the golden strategy section, you set out what the data was for, why you have it, and how you’re going to use it.

    And where it came from.

    Data requirement verification, now you analyze the data set, you know what’s in the box, you have to very be very thorough in matching up, did we get what we needed? Or are there pieces missing are the pieces that do not meet the requirements of the project.

    And this is the part that men, many, many folks skip over, I have skipped over it in the past, and I have paid the price for it by not being able to do the work that I needed to do.

    So that’s super, super important.

    The next step is, if as long as you’ve met the requirements, and the date is in good condition, you’re going to do a whole bunch of data preparation.

    So centering and scaling the data if you need to removing anomalies, cleaning up the data essentially, after that, you do a step called feature extraction, where you pull out attributes from the data to make new types of data, especially if we’re going to be using this data for any kind of machine learning.

    And feature extraction is is making new fields from existing fields.

    So for example, if you have a date, that when a landline form is filled out, you can extract that the day of the week, the week of the month, the month of the year, the quarter of the year, and the day of the quarter, and so on so forth, you can create new features from that, because those features may be useful for modeling.

    At this point, you may also choose to do feature augmentation.

    feature augmentation occurs when you’ve done the requirements gathering, and you verified the data meets those requirements.

    But you know, through your own domain expertise, there might be additional data from third parties that could supplement I could add new things.

    Even though they’re not part of the original requirement, they could add value.

    So you may choose to use augmentation, again, that requires a lot of domain expertise.

    If you’re looking at, I don’t know, cardiac data.

    What are the things that as a cardiologist you wouldn’t you know, other data exists out there, someone like me, who is not a medical professional would not know how to do that, I would know that there might be other data out there.

    But it wouldn’t necessarily know what it is or where to go looking for it.

    The next step is features selection, great, you’ve made this huge data set with thousand columns, right, and you’ve extracted and augmented this thing.

    And it’s super huge and robust.

    Now, you need to remove anything irrelevant.

    So feature selection is what features are important.

    If you’re doing any kind of supervised learning or looking at trying to analyze the specific outcome, say, like, you know, customer value, or their features that simply have no mathematical relationship to customer value, if so, you can drop those.

    And finally, you would do either modeling or other applications of your data, where you’ve done the analysis, you understand this data left, right up, down.

    Now, what are you going to do with it? Are you going to take it right from this point as insights and, and or generate insights from it manually? Or you’re going to turn it over to machines for further analysis? What are you going to do with the data? So that’s the strategy for analyzing business data is extensive.

    It requires a lot of time, and it requires domain expertise.

    So this is not something that you can do quickly.

    Generally speaking, not if you want to do it well.

    And it’s not something that you can do cheaply.

    Again, not if you want to do it well.

    Now if this is data, you student Hello, making a ridiculous like Instagram meme out of you don’t have to spend, you know, months to do that.

    But if you’re going to be betting your business health, or your customers health or wealth on this data, you better do this exploratory data analysis process really, really well.

    And that takes time and money.

    So great question Andrea.

    complicated question.

    You have to do it as well as you possibly can within the limitations that you’re given for the data and for the overall business.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Make a Great Email Newsletter?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Make a Great Email Newsletter?

    Audrey asks, “What do you all look for in a good email newsletter? Are there any you just love & can’t wait to receive? Any that you signed up for that just fell flat?”

    This is a great question and an important one, because the answer is very different based on the subscriber’s intent. Broadly, email newsletters fall into two buckets – educational and entertaining. What kind of newsletter a person subscribes to is incredibly dependent on their intent, and if you publish one, you have to know what kind of audience you have or want to have. Other basic considerations include frequency, length, personality, and specific topic.

    Some examples of great newsletters I subscribe to include:

    Shameless plug: I produce two newsletters, Almost Timely and In the Headlights. Please subscribe to both if you want marketing and data science news and opinions. Almost Timely is more individually-focused and In the Headlights is more business/organization-focused.

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    In today’s episode, Audrey asks, what do you look for in a good email newsletter that you just love and can’t wait to receive any you sign up for the just fell flat? This is a great question and an important one, because the answer is very different depending on the subscribers intent.

    So there’s the producer of the newsletter side, the subscriber side.

    Broadly speaking, email newsletters are going to fall into two buckets, educational and entertaining, and every newsletter is almost certainly going to be a blend of those two.

    But what that blend is what that mix is, is dependent on both the subscribers and the producers.

    Now, what kind of newsletter a person subscribes to is incredibly dependent on their intent.

    So if you are publishing an email newsletter, if you’re trying to create one for business purposes, you have to know what kind of audience either you have, or you want to have.

    One of the tricks that I do for that is to look at your social audience, look at what they post and you know, just do a sample of a random mix of 100 posts and look at how much entertainment versus education people are trying to publish out there in the world and gives you a sense of what they share, and how entertainment or education focus they are.

    Now, if you’re trying to produce a great email newsletter, or even just a good one on one that doesn’t suck, you need to have a few other things as well.

    You have to be clear on your intent.

    What is your intent? Do you want to entertain? Or do you want to educate? Do you want to do both? Can you do both? Well, in the email newsletters, I publish, I publish two of them.

    I personally email newsletter almost timely and in the headlights, the trust insights newsletter.

    And I don’t go for entertainment because as it That to me is that’s not my background, I don’t have any formal training.

    And so I focus really on the education aspect, because processing data is what I do.

    Second question, what frequency Do you want to publish, there is no wrong frequency, other than what is the maximum frequency you can publish at while still retaining quality while still producing something that people want to read and enjoy reading? For some people that’s monthly.

    And that’s okay.

    You know, it’s better than nothing, as long as its quality.

    For other publications.

    There are some that publish three times a day, and they maintain quality that way, but they create a lot of content.

    And as long as it’s useful, it fulfills the mission.

    And then great.

    length is another consideration how much content and what kinds of content go into your newsletter, your best bet for making a newsletter is to create content that is scalable, in the sense that you can produce a newsletter relatively quickly and it at the frequency you choose, but has any basic template all the way to, to having machines really put together a good chunk of it.

    About two thirds of my newsletter is generated by software that I wrote, because I couldn’t just create a whole thing.

    And then there’s about a third of it is custom that I build every issue.

    I publish weekly.

    Some companies published daily, some companies publish three times a day depends on on your company, and what you can do.

    The third is personality, what personality does your newsletter speak with? Generally speaking, the better newsletters, have a personality to them, either one person who’s writing them, and you’re getting that person’s perspective.

    Or there’s an editorial board but it still has the voice of a person.

    Remember that a newsletter, my friend and Hanley about which is a terrific newsletter, you can find it in Hanley calm often talks about how companies focus too much on the news and not enough on the letter.

    And so if you can write with the intent of it being one person communicating to another, because that’s the way it’s read newsletters are a lot like podcasts, right? They’re not something that is a communal thing.

    You read that was a one to one communication.

    It’s like a podcast, you’re listening to another person.

    You’re not people don’t communally listen to podcasts for the most part.

    So your personality should reflect that when you’re typing out your newsletter when you’re creating a newsletter should reflect I as the creator and writing to you are writing a letter to you the reader one person at a time.

    The fourth consideration is the specific topic What is your newsletter about? and be very specific and clear on this so that you can tell what doesn’t does not go into the newsletter.

    The best newsletters the ones that I love are very specific.

    They are clear on their intent there’s no question when I sign up for this newsletter I know exactly what I’m getting.

    Katie Martell publishes a great marketing newsletter and handling newsletters writing a lot about writing these days.

    Jeremy singer vines data is plural newsletter is all about data sets you can take a look at Scott Montes is all about general business strategy.

    Help a reporter out is all inquiries from reporters who need help with stories.

    Morning brew is all about mostly finance and business.

    So these are examples of very clear topics, very clear intent by the publishers, whether their individual organisational for the readers, like this is what you get.

    And and there’s no question that if you want a newsletter that covers x, this is the source to go for.

    where companies go wrong is when you read their newsletter.

    If you scratched off the the logo, would you have any idea it was that companies newsletter? Or would it just be some like random generic newsletter? That personality is really really important.

    In terms of testing out your newsletters, though, thing that I recommend is the same as podcasts.

    Could you from memory, re subscribe to all the newsletters you subscribe to right now.

    Try it as an exercise.

    I don’t mean like unsubscribe for anything.

    I just mean to get a open a new text document, get out a post it note whatever and list out the ones that you kind of remember that you subscribe to by name.

    And then compare it to what you actually get.

    And that is your benchmark and the same that your goal as a producer is to be on that shortlist of things that people actually remember signing up for.

    If your newsletter isn’t at that point, you have more work to do.

    You have more work to do to make it more memorable either.

    The brand itself mine is called almost timely.

    Or the content where the person behind it I subscribe to to Ann’s newsletter.

    Okay, I can remember that.

    Do I subscribe to Johnny’s newsletter, gosh, I don’t know if I do, do I.

    That’s an example of where that newsletter has not done a good job, a good enough job with branding to be memorable, to be trustworthy.

    So that’s what from my point of view goes into a good email newsletter as someone who’s been publishing an email newsletter of some kind for almost one yours now.

    You need to have those things clear purpose, frequency, length, personality, and very specific topic.

    As always, please leave comments below and please do subscribe to the YouTube channel on the newsletter and all the links for the newsletters mentioned in this episode are in the show notes on the blog.

    Go to Christopher penn.com slash blog.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What is the Value of PR?

    You Ask, I Answer: What is the Value of PR?

    Stephanie asks, “So I’m curious, what is the value of PR? What do companies gain from it?”

    An excellent question with a lot of caveats – and I say this as someone who worked in a PR firm for half a decade. PR is ultimately about building awareness and trust, and promises (at least in the sales pitch) exponential returns. But there’s a massive catch that, for the most part, tends to make PR’s promises fall short. Watch the video for what that danger is.

    More on the topic of measuring PR here.

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    In today’s episode, Stephanie asks, so I’m curious, what is the value of PR? What do companies gain from it PR in this case means public relations.

    And this is an excellent question, with a lot of caveats, because I say this is someone who worked in a public relations agency for half a decade.

    And seeing all of the ups and downs all of the amazing successes and terrible failures of public relations, the value of PR, at least, someone has sat through dozens, if not hundreds, of sales pitches, is the way its pitch is the a potential promise of exponential returns.

    Pr is value.

    The value of public relations, when you do it well, is awareness and trust, you build awareness of your brand.

    And you build trust in that brand.

    And the way you build awareness is by getting into publications and media outlets, of all kinds where you might not get otherwise or where you might be ignored.

    So it’s fine to run ads, and you absolutely do need to run ads to grow a business.

    But as we all know, from practical experience, people tend to ignore ads, especially if they’re not very well done.

    So PR helps you get into different parts of a website, a blog, a TV show, etc, where people are possibly paying more attention.

    So that’s one aspect.

    The second is trust, the idea that with good placement, meaning meaning you get into the publications you care about, you are building credibility you are building trust in your brand.

    If people if you see somebody else talking about a brand, it can be more credible than the brand itself talking about how awesome they are.

    And so those are the values of PR, the exponential returns is a a pitch as well that if you get into a a top tier publication, New York Times Wall Street Journal, CNBC, Casey nice, that’s YouTube channel, whatever top tier means in your industry, you will generate returns that are outsized for compared to two other channels.

    For example, in advertising advertising is generally treated as a linear model, meaning that if you put 1 into the machine, most of the time, you’re going to get like, you know,1, five or 1 10 out, right, and it’s a very, very predictable, in many cases, safe investment, you put10, behind a booth post, you’re going to get a certain number of eyeballs, it won’t be many, right.

    So it’s a linear return, you have to spend commensurate to the reach and awareness that you want to buy.

    The promise of public relations is that you can get significantly more.

    In some cases, if you use PR taxes, if you do manage to land in, you know how to Casey United States YouTube channel or you manage to be in cocoa, roaches, Instagram, and you didn’t pay to be there.

    You could get you could see, you know, 100,000 or 200,000 views, clicks, whatever, to your media that you manage to get placed.

    There’s catch with this, there’s a whole bunch of catches with this.

    Pr is not cheaper than advertising.

    When you work with a mid size or a large firm, you could be paying one company I know charges 15 to 20,000 a month minimum for for their efforts.

    Now they are a mid size firm.

    So there are smaller boutiques that will charge you, you know, anywhere from three to five to10,000 a month, but it’s still a decent chunk of change.

    So there’s that.

    And all of this, all of this is contingent on one thing that tends to make PR fall very, very short.

    And it is this you have to not suck as a company, your product or services have to not suck.

    Right.

    So if you have a product that’s twice the price and half the quality, guess what you will have no luck with PR just like you’re probably not having any luck with your advertising or any of your other marketing.

    If your if your CEO is being arrested for high crimes and misdemeanors, guess what a PR firm is not going to be able to fix that you need to get rid of your SEO.

    Pr like advertising of all forms of marketing is an amplifier, it amplifies a message if the message is we have mediocre products that are virtually indistinguishable from what our competitors bring to market and our competitors are cheaper and have better service.

    Pr is not going to help you.

    It can actually hurt you.

    I have seen instances where a company was insistent on doing PR.

    And their product was terrible.

    And they went out to market and they’re like, Oh, we need to call all these reporters and do all this outreach.

    And and the people I know what the old company were doing that and the reporters are like, this is a piece of junk, who nobody wants this, this is this is useless, right.

    And not only did this company not get the coverage that they wanted, they got negative coverage out of it, they got you know, people saying well the other, there are other alternatives in this particular product line, but they’re generally low quality and and not worth buying.

    Right, that’s certainly not covered that you want.

    So PR is incredibly dependent on you not sucking and not not having a terrible product or service.

    And before you invest money in public relations or advertising or content marketing or influencer marketing or anything, you have to make sure that what you have to offer is worthwhile.

    Now do you need to hire someone to do PR, it is a time consuming thing.

    To do PR.

    If you are willing to commit a lot of time to it, you absolutely can hire somebody in house to do it.

    And most brands, larger brands have an in house personal or in house team to do all this.

    And then they may supplement with an outside firm for certain types workers certain periods of time.

    That said, Unless you have something really great, don’t go down that route yet.

    focus on improving the product.

    When it comes to hiring firms, it really depends on on whether you have more money than time.

    If you have more money than time, you just don’t have the people.

    And you’re not gonna be able to get the headcount done.

    Yeah, hire a firm to do it if you’ve got the budget, but you don’t have the head and you’re not allowed to increase headcount.

    Hire a firm, that’s a pretty safe way to do it.

    But again, no matter which firm you talk to, you’re going to hear a lot of pitches talking about you know, the the amazing results that that agencies get, that’s only true if your product doesn’t suck.

    And what you will find is, and where I think PR makes the most sense is if you have a product that is good, that is getting some traction, but it’s not getting enough, you’ve gotten some successes, you’ve made it to like third tier publications, and the coverage you’ve gotten the press you’ve gotten has been overwhelmingly positive, then you would leverage a relationship that an agency might have in order to get to higher levels of important some bigger names in your space.

    But if you’re not getting if you’re not, if no one’s paying attention to you now, there’s a good chance that no one will pay attention to you in the future, even with you know, putting $20,000 a month to work on it.

    So just keep that in mind.

    When you have a great product, the value of PR is that exponential return people talk about you people pay attention to you people may even wait for you and want to talk about what you have to offer.

    When you know what you’re doing.

    And when you make media outlets look good.

    They will call you do if you built those relationships over time.

    So that’s the value of PRX financial returns if your product doesn’t suck awareness and trust there’s some videos I’ll link up to one in the show notes on how to measure it because one of the other sticking points of the of the entire PR industry is that they are uniformly bad at measurement.

    That’s a topic for another time so as always, please leave your comments in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Do Graduates Find Analytics Jobs?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Do Graduates Find Analytics Jobs?

    Dan asks, “When looking for contract work or even full time jobs in analytics where do you folks recommend starting? I’d like to pass this on to the new students in the UNH MS in Analytics program.”

    This is a fun question, depending on the skills of the student. If they’re being taught things like how to interface with APIs and how to write code, there are some incredible options available. Watch the video for full details.

    Some of the steps mentioned:

    • Learn Beautiful Soup and Scrapy in Python
    • Learn httr and rvest in R
    • Build code to extract data from job boards
    • Post code and examples on Github
    • Participate in other repos on Github
    • Network on sites like Github, TDS, Kaggle, etc.
    • Join relevant Slack groups like Analytics for Marketers
    • Earn certifications for free at CognitiveClass.ai from IBM

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    In today’s episode, Dan, from our analytics for marketers slack group asks, When looking for contract work or even full time jobs in analytics, where do you Where do you folks recommend starting? I’d like to pass this on to the new students in the UNH ms in analytics program.

    This is a fun question, because it depends on the skills of the student.

    But if you’re, if you’re getting a master’s in analytics, I’m going to make some assumptions about the kind of training you’re getting, I’m going to assume that you’re getting training in one of the modern programming languages like our or Python, that you’re getting training in statistical tools like SPSS that you’re getting training in understanding things like how databases work, how API’s work, all these things.

    Now, you may not be a coder, per se, but you’d better be if you’re getting a master’s degree in analytics, you’d better be familiar with all the tools of the trade for them modern day high tech analyst.

    So if that’s the case, if you’re being taught things like how to interface with API’s, how to write code, how to scrape data, and process it, there are some incredible options available for your career.

    Now, let’s start at the basics.

    The number one way to get work of any kind is of course referrals to get someone else to refer you into worked for you to have that professional relationship with people, you know, hiring capacity.

    For graduates who are with it just have a bachelor’s degree and just starting out on their journey, that may not necessarily be something they have a lot of.

    But for people with master’s degrees who have been in the workforce, presumably, who have not just been you know, camping out in school for six years.

    There, you should have some level of a personal network that you can rely on.

    And the basic things like LinkedIn and such are important.

    If you want to do contract work, you want to check out LinkedIn pro Finder.

    So just search for LinkedIn pro finder, you can set up your LinkedIn profile to say I’m available to do freelance work.

    Pro tip, you can use that it’s a regular employee to for your side hustle.

    So that’s the basics, I’m going to assume that’s all taken care of.

    Now, let’s talk about the skills you should be absolutely positively networking, which means is a polite way of saying or a fancy way of saying, just getting know people within relevant communities, our slack group analytics for marketers, for example, GitHub, being an active participant on GitHub, towards data science, capital, all of the major analytics hubs where people are talking about the stuff that you know, you should be publishing, absolutely positively publishing on your own blog, you should be submitting content to sites like Katie nuggets, if you’re doing some original academic research search, you should be publishing it in like analytics for diet, if you’re, if you are, have content ready for those sites.

    But you absolutely should be publishing your work, you should be publishing your code.

    So your code should be on your GitHub profile.

    And if you’re graduating with a master’s degree in analytics, and you don’t haven’t GitHub profile, get one set one up, it’s totally free.

    But set up a repo there is set up a profile, make sure that you’re publishing your work so that you can get feedback from other people, you should be absolutely participating in analytics discussions in places like Reddit analytics channel, you should be participating on Stack Overflow, stack, exchange, all those sites, there are analytics forums, code forums for analytics tools like our that you can demonstrate your expertise and connect with people who have other expertise, and see how they work.

    Now, again, this is all stuff that, to me, seems like table minimum, right, you should be doing these things to interact to be known to do publishing work, you should have a blog, you should have a YouTube channel, you should be demonstrating the work that you do.

    And if you don’t have any work to do get some.

    If you don’t have a paying job, that’s fine.

    Go volunteer to nonprofit, go volunteer at a local small business, fix their analytics problems, fix their data problems, come up with interesting insights.

    And you use that as the fuel to publish papers your own, you could absolutely publish and be known for a cutting edge paper on the analytics of local pizza sales.

    Right? You could do it absolutely good do it.

    So that’s an example.

    Now, let’s take it to the next level.

    If you have focused and studied and you’ve learned Python, or are Python, there’s two libraries, you need to know three really beautiful soup, selenium and scraping these three libraries will give you the ability to say grape and and extract data from other websites.

    In our it would be our vest and HTC.

    Er, you should absolutely be building interfaces to various API’s.

    For things like the indeed, com job boards, and then be harvesting that data with permission and adherence to their terms of service, for analytics jobs, in the places you want to live in, in the roles and the companies in the industries and have that data available so that you know where you want to work, you have the data you can apply to those positions that make this make the most sense for you.

    There are tremendous opportunities.

    And if you think ahead, you can also look at just companies that are hiring the analytics space in general, even if they don’t have your role available.

    who’s hiring? And then can you make a connection of some kind through LinkedIn or through some of these other networking sites, say like, hey, do you need a a new analyst on the team, you know, somebody who may not necessarily have you know, 10 or 20 years of experience in the industry, but be willing to work, willing to, you know, either contract out side hustle or full time at your company.

    If a company is hiring, and they’re publishing jobs, on public job boards, they’re desperate.

    Because they haven’t been able to fill that with referrals, they have not been able to fill it with internal hires, they have had to go outside and publicly admit, we need help with this stuff.

    So those would be my suggestions for how new students can be getting into the analytic space quickly and in a in a way that that pays decently Follow these tips from the basics, do all the basics for sure.

    Love, love those skills.

    If you don’t have those skills, and for some reason you went into the program that doesn’t have the coding skills, go to cognitive class.ai and take some of these courses on R and Python today Get those skills.

    It is a totally free system from IBM.

    You can get some certifications for free, and it will really benefit you.

    So great question Dan.

    As always, please leave your comments in the comments box below.

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