Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Skillsets to Hire For in an AI Age?
Denis asks, “Are there new skillsets that marketing leadership should be hiring based on the impact of AI will have?”

The answer to this question is contingent on the types of AI solutions your company will be deploying. Broadly speaking, you’ll be needing to identify efficiencies for AI to automate, increasing complex human work like true innovation, leadership, domain expertise, and creativity, and inspecting and tuning the outcomes of AI.

The skillsets required would include strong data analysis capabilities, machine learning expertise, and the soft skills around innovation, leadership, domain expertise, and creativity. The latter will be the hardest, because it requires experienced recruiters and HR staff, as well as hiring managers, to be able to understand innovation and creativity.

What you won’t be hiring for are repetitive tasks and repetitive work. If it’s repetitive, AI will do it, so those roles will be smaller in number.

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In today’s episode, Dennis asks, Are there new skill sets that marketing leadership shouldn’t be hiring for, based on the impact that AI will have? Yes, the answer to this question is contingent on the types of AI that your company will be deploying. For example, if you’re just going to do something very limited, like, I don’t know, put up a chat bot, then you might want somebody who has a natural language processing experience. For example, if you’re going to be building your own chatbot, from scratch, but broadly speaking, you’re going to need to identify the efficiencies for AI to automate. So that’s going to be one type of person you’re going to want to be able to hire. Those are people who are good at process management, project management, Product Manager, management, Business Process automation, and about whole soup of acronyms that goes with that total quality management, Six Sigma, you name it, that’s, that’s going to be one bucket of people, people who can help you decide what problems you want to solve with artificial intelligence. The second group of people you’re going to need are people who can help you increase the quality and the quantity of complex human work. So that will be things like interpersonal relationship management, true innovation, people who can actually innovate, there are, there are a lot of people who use the word innovative, very few people who actually are very few people who can create something new, that didn’t exist before. Another area where you will need more people rather than less is going to be around leadership. Again, there are a lot of people who claim the word leader, there are not a very many people who actually are leaders. And of course, creativity. This is an area where you will need more people who are truly an actually creative. Again, a lot of people use the word, not a lot of people can do it. The third group of people you’re going to need are people who can inspect and tune the outcomes of AI, it will be sometime before AI can be just given a pile of data and and come up with good answers that require relatively little to no cleaning up front, or improving on the backend iterating improving on the backend. In fact, there’s an entire branch of AI right now called active learning, which has a human in the loop sooner. So for example, if you’re trying to classify customer service inquiries, and the machine knows it can do I was a positive inquiry that was a negative or unhappy inquiry. And then there’s probabilities between those those two ranges. Active Learning allows the machine to raise his hand soon and say, Hey, I don’t know what to do with this one. This might be sarcasm, it might be might be someone who’s happy and unhappy at the same time, what do I do? And so active learning involves people with subject matter expertise to help to and the machine. That is probably the last area I would say in one that encompasses or stretches across all these, which is domain expertise. There is going to be a tremendous call for people with greater and greater domain expertise in their industries. What do you know about your industry where the tips, the tricks, the hidden things, if you’ve got, you know, a little more gray hair rather than less? What have you learned that can be used to help tune and codify the results that people are getting? That is so powerful, and so absent? And a lot of machine learning work? A lot of the problems that we see happening with AI and machine learning right now is you have statisticians who can build a theoretical model, you have coders who can turn into code. But in a lot of cases, there isn’t someone of domain expertise to Satan. That’s not how that works. A real simple example would be, you could have somebody say in food science. And the coders, the statisticians are saying, well, these foods clustered together most of these.

And the coders codify that and no one’s saying, folks, you got to put, you always got to put salt on tomatoes. Because the food science person, the food expert knows that tomatoes contain a natural form of glue tannic acid, which when you add salt to it forms a, a natural, MSG is right tomatoes always tastes better with salt. But a coder and a statistician would not know that only a domain expert would know that. So that’s an example where you need people who have domain expertise, whatever it is, your company does, to provide those little tweaks that make things so much better. Now, in terms of skill sets, you’re hiring for strong data analysis capabilities across the board, that is going to be required for pretty much everyone, as time goes on being able to look at a data file that goes into a machine or look at the machines output and say, yes, that’s good, or no, that’s not good. Machine learning expertise, you’ll be hiring for some of that people who can tune the machines built them. Not everyone has to do that. But you do need a few people who can really get under the hood and make this the systems and software work. And then again, you’re going to be hiring for innovation, for leadership, for creativity, and for domain expertise. This last category, those soft skills, for the most part, and domain expertise is more of a hard skill. It’s going to be so hard. That’s the part where you will make or break your company your outcomes. Because as someone who used to be a recruiter, having someone used to be a hiring manager, identifying skills like innovation, and leadership and creativity are extremely difficult. Everyone says they are. How do you test for that? How do you discern that how to even test for whether a person is going to be a good fit into your company. One, one hiring trick I remember from the old days was to ask somebody describe their accomplishments of their last company. And if if they use words that were almost exclusively about that, well, I did this and I did this and I had a team, but I did this, that person’s probably not a good team player. Right? As opposed to, I did this and I work with the team. And here’s how I supported the team. Or here’s how the team supported me, or in this result is this was a group effort. And here is my role in this. This Africa, here’s what I did to help this effort come to fruition, but understanding that there was a lot more to what that effort was than just what the just what the one person the individual contributor did. Now, the one thing you won’t be hiring for repetitive tasks, and roles that are largely repetitive, if it is repetitive a machine is going to do it. And what you’ll see happen is those tasks will go away first. And then as those tasks go away, you will see the number of people needed in that role to get smaller and smaller. So for example, I used to work in the public relations industry. And there was one type of role that was largest copying and pasting all day long, that’s going away, right, that role is not needed in any capacity. Because the machine can do that you don’t even need to do that. You can just use regular programming to take that work and make it better and faster and cheaper with machinery. So look at the roles in your organization, if is 7585 95% repetitive work, that the tasks that role will do will will go to machines. And then the role will simply consolidate and diminish and eventually for some roles absolutely will go away. If someone’s job, for example, is literally nothing more than getting coffee for somebody else. That role is probably going to go away because as companies get more productive and get better at measuring productivity, they’ll see that that’s not generating business impact. So lots to unpack here about the skill sets that marketing leadership should be looking for, but it really boils down to data capabilities, soft skills, and domain expertise. If you have any follow on comments, please leave them in the comments box below. And of course, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter. I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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June 10, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: The Future of PR?
Erin asks, “What is POV on the future of PR? As media landscape changes and print/cable become less mainstream, how are companies innovating within the practice?”

The future of PR depends on our definition and concept of PR. There’s old school PR – blasting out emails to fewer and fewer reporters, cranking out press releases, etc. That PR is dying out, and for good reason: it hit diminishing returns a long time ago.

However, if our definition of PR is about controlling the flow of attention, then PR doesn’t change. Where is the audience’s attention today? Who has it? How can we work with them? Gini Dietrich came up with a model in 2014 in her book Spin Sucks called the PESO model and it’s as good a framework as any for what constitutes modern PR.

Here’s one change that is different and worth contemplating. In the old days, PR professionals were behind the scenes. Today, attention is so scarce and so valuable that PR professionals, realizing that they have relatively short times at any given agency, are building their own brands and communities that they can re-use. The same is true for intelligent, progressive agencies: by building mailing lists, private communities, etc. of their most influential message spreaders, they have a well they can tap when they need it. It’s a lot more work, and it takes a long time to build those relationships, but when you do, there’s nothing like it.

You Ask, I Answer: The Future of PR?
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In today’s episode, Aaron asks, What is the point of view on the future of PR as the media landscape changes in print and cable become less mainstream? How are companies innovating within the practice? That’s a fun question. For background, I spent five years working at a PR firm, seeing the industry change massively during that time and of course, change continues. The future of PR depends on our definition of what we think PR is what is it? There is old school PR, which is part of Aaron’s question, in the sense of like print and cable and TV. And old school PR looks like this. It’s it’s a bunch of poorly paid Junior people crammed in a room blasting out emails to fewer and fewer reporters. You know, picking up the phone and smiling and dialing it looks like the boiler room right looks at the boiler room of a terrible sale shop. Yeah, Alec Baldwin’s character, when you walk around, like make more calls, cranking out press releases, you know, dozens or hundreds of press releases a day that nobody reads and and and costing an enormous amount of money for no good reason that PR is dying out. And for good reason. It, it hit diminishing returns long time ago. And the even the older older school PR that is actually dead, but you know, sort of Mad Men era of PR where you’re taking reporters out to Martini lunches that ever happens anymore. But even the sort of the salt mine boiler room, always be closing PR model is is going away. And that’s good. Because it’s it’s it’s extremely expensive. It’s laborious, repetitive, low value work. It really is, I used to describe it as it’s a sales job with no commissions at the worst sales job in the world. Now, if we define PR as the controlling of attention at the direction of attention, then PR is timeless, it’s not going to change, right. And it won’t change because attention is the most scarce thing in the world right now. Thanks to we have all these wonderful, lovely devices that we have. This is the center of attention today. These are becoming the center of attention. Where is your audience’s attention today? Who has it? How do you work with them? One of the best models for for sort of understanding the space is actually came up with by my friend, and full disclosure advisor to my company, Ginny Dietrich, over at spin sucks. Ginny came up with a model in 2014, called the PESO model paid, earned shared own, it’s a great framework for what constitutes modern PR, modern PR is all about attention, where can you get attention. Sometimes you earn through reaching out to you know, outlets that are influential or social media influencers. That’s where kind of that shared comes in is that the social media side of things, attention comes through organic search SSE own part, that’s where your content on your website. And and maybe medium and then anything where you have control over where you put the content, you do earn it. And of course you can you have to pay for attention, right, you’re not paying for media, you’re paying for attention, you’re paying for the right to address someone’s eyeballs, or their ears if you’re doing podcasting. That is modern PR. And you have to be good at all four branches, or you have the if you’re a PR agency or a PR team, you have to have people with capabilities on on each side. And you have to have people can measure it because one of the things that PR has always been better and still is bad at today is measuring anything. Now, here’s a here’s a change that I think is different and worth contemplating. In the old days, PR professionals were you know, the man behind the curtain secretly networking their their client with the with the reporter and, and the PR person was never really the star of the show. Today, attention is so scarce and so valuable, that PR professionals are starting to change their view on on the impact of attention. And what I mean by this is that your average PR professional has a super short life span in any given agency, you know, 12 to 18 months, then they flip and go to a different agency and things like that. Or they burn out or they go in house or something like that. Because it is it’s an old school PR which a lot of companies still do is very much that boiler room, it’s a sales job with no sales commissions that will burn you out super fast, because it’s not fun.

And so PR professionals, the forward thinking ones are building their own brands, they’re building the personal brands, they’re building communities that they can reuse. They are don’t like using the word but it is accurate. In this case, they are becoming influencers in their own right in a specialization in a space. They know who’s who and they have relationships with who is who. And they can persuade people that they know to do to help them Garner and direct attention. That is the definition of PR. And the same is true for intelligent progressive agencies if they’re thinking ahead, which many are not. But the best ones are building their own mailing list building their own private communities on a on an ongoing basis. Not our client has his campaign, we need to throw dinner, you know, hit the list, go go into the database and pull out a bunch of names. That’s that’s old school, that’s not furthering a relationship. The the most progressive agencies have a discord channel or a Slack channel or a mailing list or private discussion forum, our private Facebook group, and are building that relationship with their most influential message spreaders providing them value giving, giving giving all the time so that they have a well they can tap into when they need it. When they have a big promotion or big campaign or something, they can go in and say, Hey, folks, you know, we’ve been doing all this stuff for you and giving you value over the last weeks or months, we haven’t ask, right they give in order to earn the right to ask now it is a lot of work. Believe me as a as someone who helps run a large slack community, it takes a long time to build those relationships, it is a lot of work. But when you do if you do it, well, there’s nothing like it. Because as long as your gives outweigh your asks, and the value of your gifts outweigh the value of your asks. You can create massive impact. So that’s the one thing I would say is different about today’s PR for the people who are thinking ahead versus old school PR. Now the challenge is, again, because you’re changing out people all the time. I mean, the PR industry has something like a 55% turnover rate annually, which means that one out of every two people that you work with, if you’re working with a PR person, there’s a good chance and not going to be at the same company the next year. So think about building no matter whether you’re at an agency or an independent professional, whether you’re in house, think about building those relationships on an ongoing basis. curating a private community in your area of specialization, and then using that as your leverage as your your source of attention to direct it when you need it directed most. Great question Aaron, I could go on for a real long time of this but I think we’ll we’ll end there. As always, please leave your comments below. And please put you subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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June 6, 2019
Mergers and Acquisitions 101 : How to Survive a Merger
Many marketing professionals have never experienced a merger or acquisition. All they’ve heard are the downsides from peers – job loss, heavier workloads, confusion. What are the basics of mergers? Let’s look at mergers and acquisitions 101: why companies do it, what you should know about your own career prospects, and how to prepare for a merger.

Why do Companies Merge/Acquire?

Companies merge/acquire for four basic reasons:
1. Acquire new products. Sometimes buy is cheaper than build, so the acquiring company just buys the company for its products/services outright, rather than mess around with licensing deals. An example of a product acquisition would be Microsoft’s acquisition of Skype.
2. Acquire new assets. Some companies will be acquired for non-salable assets (as opposed to products to be sold). When Southwest bought Airtran, it was speculated that this was because Southwest wanted an Atlanta hub. Alaskan Airlines buying Virgin America is another example of purchasing access to cities that Alaskan didn’t serve, or didn’t serve well. Sometimes the asset is as simple as a customer database, a media property, or a piece of proprietary technology (like a patent portfolio).
3. Acquire new talent. Google is famous for doing this, such as with Jaiku. They wanted the engineers and grabbed the entire company to get them, then terminated the people they didn’t need.
4. Reduce operating costs or increase scale. Sometimes two companies can achieve greater efficiency or greater scale by merging. In the corporate world, this is a synergy merge. For example, Proctor & Gamble acquired Gillette not only for the product line, but also for a greater scale of manufacturing capacity and cost savings. Amazon is noted for doing this with acquisitions like Zappos.
Companies go through mergers and acquisitions for an endgame goal of improved financial performance for shareholders. At the end of the day, more money is always the objective.

The reasons cited above aren’t mutually exclusive, either. Companies might execute mergers for multiple reasons. At a former company, the acquiring company bought the company I worked at for reasons 1, 3, and 4.

What Happens During M&A?

Prior to a merger happening, both companies do their due diligence in examining each others’ operations and financial performance. The value of the target company is negotiated and established; if everything seems like it would work well enough, both companies sign an agreement and the merging/acquisition process begins. The acquiring company typically assembles a game plan of what they want to keep and what they want to change/normalize/assimilate after the merger at this point.

The acquiring company buys out enough ownership in the target company to effectively gain control over it. In publicly traded companies, this is done largely by buying shares of voting stock until the acquiring company owns a majority stake. In privately held companies, this is done by buying out owners of equity in the company from just a single sole proprietor to a team of shareholders.

Once ownership is acquired, shareholders are paid for their stake in the company and then the process of actually merging two companies together begins.

Remember the primary reason for a merger: improved financial performance. The merging process is all about the roadmap towards what that end state looks like. Sometimes the company is very public about what will happen, and sometimes the company is very secretive about it. At another former company, the acquiring company forced an intense amount of secrecy on key stakeholders of the target company, and essentially announced the merger and the roadmap all at once.

One of the most important things you can do is listen carefully to what’s being said about the merger, to employees, to the press, to investors, etc. Gather up news articles and statements about the merger so that you have a comprehensive picture of the reason for the merger.

What Happens to Employees?

If you’re a shareholder of the target company, you get paid a cash sum or get converted shares. For example, if you were an employee of GTE that held stock in GTE back in the day, your GTE stock got converted to Verizon stock when the acquisition completed. Many employees of publicly traded companies receive stock as part of their compensation (typically as part of a retirement plan), and that stock is converted on acquisition.

If you’re an employee of either company, you are effectively on notice.In order to achieve greater financial performance (which is the sole reason for M&A as stated above), you have to immediately reduce redundancies and inefficiencies. For every overlapping role in either company, one position will continue on and one or more people will be laid off. Let’s look at the human side of the four examples above.

1. Acquire new products. Everyone not tightly associated with the new products will likely be laid off in the target company eventually. People tightly coupled to the development and support of the core product or service being purchased will be fine in the short to medium term as the acquiring company typically lacks that product expertise. If the stated reason for acquisition is acquisition of products and services, and you’re not on the core product team, expect to lose your job.

2. Acquire new assets. If the asset requires staffing, such as the Southwest/Airtran example (new routes in and around Atlanta mean staff to operate them), they’ll be kept. If the asset requires no staffing, such as a database or a patent portfolio, then the target company’s entire team will probably be let go.

3. Acquire new talent. If you are the target pool of talent being acquired, life is good. If you’re not, you’re being let go. In technology talent acquisitions, the acquiring company keeps the developers and lets everyone else go.

4. Reduce operating costs or increase scale. This is the messiest of mergers as people in both companies are under the gun to demonstrate why they should be kept. It’s effectively a corporate deathmatch: two employees enter, one employee leaves, and employees in the acquiring company as well as the target company are at risk. If you’ve seen the scenes in the movie Office Space with the “Bobs” consultants, that’s more or less the process you’ll go through.

Mergers and acquisitions’ purpose are to improve financial performance. Anything and anyone that doesn’t directly contribute to improved financial performance in either company with regards to mergers and acquisitions will be let go.

Also, bear in mind that there tend to be as many exceptions as rules when it comes to mergers. For every example and case I’ve cited here, you can easily name 10 cases where the consequences were different, even the desired outcome. Time Warner’s acquisition of AOL got them anything but improved financial performance, for example. Just as every personal relationship is different, so too are mergers and acquisitions. The motivations for mergers, regardless of outcome, are the same: improved financial performance.

Surviving a Merger

Plan around which of the four core reasons a merger happened. If a company is acquired for multiple reasons, the likelihood of synergies which provide you career opportunities go up. A merger simply to cut costs bodes ill for everyone. A merger for new products, new assets, and new markets means that financial performance through growth is more likely the reason, and that translates into increased opportunities to survive and thrive in the new company.

Pay careful attention during the merging process to a few things:
- How quickly your company culture changes. A fast transition – less than a year – to a whole new company look and feel is indicative that the acquiring company values only a certain part of the target company, and thus your likelihood of being let go increases.
- How quickly new financial controls are imposed. If you immediately change to new timekeeping systems, new billing and expense procedures, new constraints on what you’re allowed to do or not do, chances are the acquiring company feels the target company isn’t efficient and intends to clean house quickly. Thus, your risk is higher. In a previous merger I went through, the acquiring company canceled the old company credit cards very fast, an early sign that they didn’t trust the financial judgement of the company I was at – and sure enough, that merger went very badly for the employees.
- How quickly new organization charts and reporting structures appear. Again, if the acquiring company feels the target company is well run, there won’t be a ton of changes. If, on the other hand, you walk into work and the org charts are all different and there’s a new box of business cards on your desk the day after a merger announcement, chances are it’s not going to be a pleasant merger.
- How quickly workloads change – especially if they increase. The goal of any merger is improved financial performance, which means that the acquiring company is looking for outsized returns on investment. If work seems about the same even after a year, chances are the merger was successful and both companies are at parity in terms of performance. If your workload increases significantly in just a couple of months, the merger isn’t going to go well for you.
Here’s a good rule of thumb: the faster and the bigger the changes, the worse the merger is going to be for the target company. Ignore the most common lie uttered during merger announcements – “Don’t worry, nothing’s going to change!” – and pay attention to the changes that do occur. A merger of two well-run companies where the acquirer and the target both value each other will take at least a year, and change will be gradual. A merger in which the acquirer doesn’t value or respect more than a few pieces of the target company will impose noticeable quality of life changes rapidly, sometimes in as little as 3-6 months after the announcement of the merger.

My best advice to you, as someone who has been through many mergers and acquisitions, is to document and improve your personal performance over time, whether there’s a merger or not.

Once a merger is announced, you are interviewing for your own job.

Treat it as such. Document everything you do with concrete metrics about how well you do it, then focus on improving the metrics you have control over. Your goal is to demonstrate your worth to your new company in concrete terms of how you help the company make money, save money, or be more efficient. In your self-evaluation, if you struggle to document and identify things you’ve done to either help your company make money, save money, or be more efficient, your best bet is to begin your job search immediately. Brush up your LinkedIn profile, boost your personal brand, and get ahead of the crowd.

Finally, a note on the human side. Mergers and acquisitions are generally tough for both the acquiring company and the target company, especially if you’re not a senior member of either company. In the end, the culture and processes of the acquiring company always take precedence. If, when you get to know the acquiring company a little, you don’t like what you see (or read on Glassdoor), don’t expect that the target company will influence the acquiring company in any meaningful way. Prepare to leave sooner or later, and do it on your own terms if possible. On the other hand, if you like what you see, redouble your efforts to prove your value and ascend in the new company, because there will be plenty of folks who will feel the new company isn’t a good fit for them.

Disclosure: This post has been revised several times over the years. The most recent revision added more cues about measuring change during a merger and removed some identifying information from mergers I was personally involved with.

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June 5, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Starting Marketing Data?
Magdalena asks, “If you have a new company or a new startup in marketing, how do you get started with no data?”

This is a common question not only for new companies, but also for people new to a role who are coming into an organization where data may not be trustworthy or analytics software may not be configured correctly. As such, it’s effectively the same as starting something brand new. The starting point for a marketing initiative without data is to go get third-party data until you have enough of your own to build successful models. Watch the video for some useful tips about where to get that data.

Top data sources for marketers:
- Search data through tools like AHREFs
- Public social media data through tools like Talkwalker and Brand24
- Public data repositories like data.world, data.gov, and Kaggle
- Survey data you collect
- Other harvestable data you have rights to
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In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, If you have a new company or a new startup in marketing, how do you get started with no data? This is a very common question. And not only for new companies or new startups, although certainly that’s probably the most common case was the case when Katie Rivera and I started up trust insights a little over a year ago. But it’s also a situation that is common for people who are coming into a an organization where the data may not be reliable, may not be trustworthy, your analytic software may not be configured correctly. And so you are effectively still starting from ground zero. So how do you deal with a situation like this? Well, the first thing to do, of course, is to immediately fix up and start collecting good data. So if you come into an organization or a startup, or whatever the case may be, and you don’t have the basics in place like Google Analytics, Google Tag Manager and a Google Data Studio, all the things that are essential for today’s marketing, you clearly want to do that. First, you want to start collecting data as quickly as you can. After you’ve gotten the basics of your own data underway, the next step is to start bringing in credible third party data to supplement your own data until you have enough of your own to build successful models. So there are a number of different data sources that are available to marketers that regardless of when you start in a in a company or an organization, the data is already out there, it’s already good or good enough. And you can begin building models and understanding intent and things like that from that data. So what are those data sources? Number one, search data is essential. Search data is essential, because generally speaking, people are searching for things around the clock, anywhere in the world that they have internet access. And that data is typically highly structured if you’re using from a very simple tool like Google Trends to sophisticated SEO tools like RFID, which is the one that I recommend, and they are a participating sponsor of marketing over coffee. So disclosure, they do spend money with us. You can download massive amounts of SEO data search data, what terms of being most searched for what keywords, what phrases, what topics, what articles, what, what’s any kind of information that is URL based, you can get from professional SEO tools. And that information is typically very good at being longitudinal meaningful, get a get it over time. And it is highly structured, it comes out in beautiful, you know, CSV, or spreadsheets, and you can begin working with it immediately. So for any marketer, I would say search data is where you have to start. What are people searching for in your industry, I have never run into an industry where the intended audience never searched for anything that is never once happened yet. So that’s a good place to start. A second place would be public social media, data, conversations, topics, things like that. You can use tools like talk Walker, which I use a lot. And brand 24, which I also use a lot. Both of them are great tools for pulling social data about specific topics of discussion. Now, unlike search data, some industries, there won’t be a ton of social media data if if there are topics that frankly, are too sensitive to be discussed or may not be available in social media monitoring tools. Cyber Security is a really good example. A lot of the best discussions in cyber security don’t happen in public forums. They happen in private closed groups, and the unless you are a member of those groups already, you’re not getting it. So

that’s a case where you will want to supplement it with other types of data. A third data repository, there are public data repositories out there like data dot world data.gov, which is a lot of us data, there’s a hundreds of thousands of data sets when the government isn’t shut down. And Cagle calm is another great resource. There’s a tons of great publicly available, licensed for public use data sets that you can download and walk through that. Although again, for almost every industry available, the exception there would be, there’s not a ton of sensitive national security data publicly available for very good reason. So that would be a case where you would have to resort to others the data sources. Number four is survey data you can collect and you should be collecting survey data on a regular frequent basis. Survey data is essential because it allows you to start asking people why, why are certain things important? We just ran a survey trust insights. One of our quarterly surveys asked people what their biggest pain point was and why. And it’s open, open open ended questions. Using stats tools like our and stuff, we can parse those open ended questions and turn them into structured data. But survey data is very, very useful. And if you’re coming into especially an organization where there are customers, as mailing list things, and there isn’t good analytical data survey data is a great way to get off to the races, because you can just send it to your organization’s database and say, Hey, what are the top issues on your mind, and that will give you some really useful insights and starting points. It can also be a way for you to validate the data you have asking people to update their profiles, for example, not only will you get obviously, those people who are still interested in communicating with you, but then you’ll be able to clean up some of your data. And finally, would be any other harvest double data that you have rights to. That can be things like podcast data that can be anything internal CRM data can be customer service data, there’s a good chance unless your company is literally brand new, that there is harvest of data within your organization to work with. Now, if you are completely and totally brand new, then other content marketing data may be useful other industry data may be useful. Almost every democratic society on the planet has a government that has publishing data that is available for download. And even frankly, some governments that are not democratic, still publish a lot of data that is accessible that you can work with. And you can practice with as well. So if you’re starting over if you’ve got something new from a data perspective, there’s a ton out there. Google for the magic term, the magic word when you Google for data is data set. So asking for data about for example, the laundry industry, you you wouldn’t necessarily just start like you know, laundry service data. You want laundry service data set one word, that data set word, because that’s something that folks who are compiling and publishing data tend to use more. So that’s a useful little tip to help you with that. So great question. It’s a frequent one. Remember that you are surrounded by data. There’s no shortage of it out there. You just have to know how to go find it, bring it in and start analyzing. As always, please leave comments in the comments box below. And subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon.

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May 29, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: What Makes Engaging Content?
Lisa asks, “Think about brands you (as a consumer) trust and engage with most often online. Why does their content prompt you to engage?”

We’ve all read many answers to this question over the years, and in the end, a consistent answer does exist. For creators, we use the 3L framework. For consumers, we use the 3E framework. Watch the video for more.

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In today’s episode Lisa asks, What makes for engaging content?

we’ve answered this question generally for decades

in marketing ever since really mass media became available. So the real question is what’s what general framework should people be using? And we have two of them the three L and the three Eva three, L is for the Creator, the three is for the consumer or someone who is auditing the content, they’re essentially mirrors of each other. The three outcome framework is very simple for content creators. When you’re creating content, did it make you laugh? Did you learn something when you’re putting together or do you love it so much that you can’t help but tell

a friend or loved one significant other all about the content even if they don’t work at your company, things like that.

So those would be the big three pieces of guidance that you use for any piece of content. Did these things happen? Now on the consumer side, on the brand side, did the content engage you meaning did it didn’t get you to do something?

Did it make you laugh, did entertain you, and did it educate? Again, those are the mirror sides, if you as the creator did those things, those are the outcomes that the consumer of the content should have gotten from.

The hardest part for a marketer is going to be honesty, self honesty, self awareness. If you as the marketer are creating the content, like I gotta get this thing out of this, got a deadline, stuff like that, and you just kind of put something out there that didn’t make you laugh. You don’t love it, and you didn’t learn anything.

When you’re putting together then yes, it’s going to fall flat. That’s just you put together not the best content that you that you could have. And it is a tricky balancing act is very difficult to create quality, meaning it contains the three L’s and quantity meaning you get the deadlines and the deliverables out the door when you need to. So it is a tough balancing act. I totally get that. But that’s the benchmark. Now

do you does it need to be stuff that makes you laugh does it need to be stuff that makes that you love? Not, not those exact emotions, it can be any type of emotional evocation.

But for brand safety, one of the things that’s going to be difficult is creating content that

you have to be cautious. If you make content that makes people think you’re gonna you’re going to create engaging content, but is that content that you necessarily want associated with the

Brand possibly not. So, again, make sure that if you’re, if you’re going to try for emotions, from a brand safety perspective, it’s generally safe to err on the side of positive emotions rather than negative emotions. But it really does come down to that self honesty, that self awareness to say, Yep, I learned something when I put together this content or this content made me laugh, or I can’t wait to tell my, my friends, you’re you’re out at dinner with them, or you’re out drinking with them or whatever. And, and,

and you say, Hey, I can’t wait to tell you about this piece of content I created at work.

That’s the measure. That’s the high watermark that says Yep, I’ve made content I’m proud of so

as a marketer, you can take this framework and print it out, you can hang it at your desk, all that stuff, but

you got to be self aware. You gotta be honest with yourself about it. So that’s, that’s how you create engaging content. As always, if you have any comments, leave them below.

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May 24, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Time Wasters in Content Marketing?
Lisa asks, “What are the biggest time wasters that plague content marketing programs?”

Before we can answer this question, we have to define what a time waster is. Is it something that won’t work, won’t generate results? Is it something for which the process is so contentious and difficult that it’s not worth doing, like content committee meetings? Is it doing something without a plan and relying on luck? Is it doing something unnecessary?
- Unnecessary: Excessive planning/perfectionism
- Ineffective: Guessing/luck
- Better Use of Time: Committees
No surprise, this all maps nicely to people, process, and platform. Know your people and their strengths and weaknesses. Audit and improve your processes for content marketing. Use data, analytics, and software to guide your content marketing and save precious time.

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In today’s episode, Lisa asks, What are the biggest time wasters that plague content marketing programs? That that’s an interesting question because

before we can answer the question, we have to define what a time waster is. Is it just something that doesn’t work? Is this something that doesn’t generate results? Is it something that the process is so contentious and difficult? It’s not worth doing. Like, you know, content committee meetings.

Is this something that like doing something without a plan and just kind of relying on luck?

is it doing something unnecessary? There’s a lot of different ways to waste time in content marketing. So the question is, when we’re talking about the biggest time wasters and the things you want to eliminate What are those things?

If we view content marketing as necessary, effective

And times scalable, meaning it’s something we need to do.

And we know we need to do it because organic search, if you look at most companies, analytics, organic searches, anywhere from 40 to 90% of the traffic that they generate, so it’s necessary.

It is effective if you do it well, because it gets you that traffic. And once you make the investment in a piece in any given individual piece of content, then no amount of ongoing investment is relatively low.

And is it scalable with the right processes with the right technology, content marketing is absolutely a very scalable thing to do.

Then,

the opposite is things that are unnecessary things that are ineffective, and things that are could be a better use of time. So let’s, let’s tackle some of those things that are unnecessary. Planning is important. Planning, forecasting, predictive analytics stuff that we do all the time at trusted insights.

absolutely necessary. What is not necessary is excessive planning. If you’re, you spend so much time on the plan so much time on the admin so much time on the overhead that you never actually get around to creating the content. That’s unnecessary. Likewise, perfectionism is a major problem in content marketing, particularly when you’re working with

certain types of personalities on staff. There are some people who it has to be the perfect platonic ideal of a piece of content and it will take them nine months to write a blog post, like, doesn’t need to be perfect. It needs to it needs to be good. So those are a couple of things to look out for there. And those are, those are more than anything, people management issues, being able to manage the people behind the content Well,

in terms of things that are ineffective guessing about what content will be popular is generally ineffective, relying on luck. We’re gonna create a whole bunch of content and hope that one of them goes viral.

I think it’s viral right now is this cold that I have?

That’s ineffective, that that doesn’t generate results, right? You need a process to be able to generate content that is effective. And that means using data using predictive analytics using Heck, using descriptive analytics, the stuff that you’ve already got using what’s already in your Google Analytics in your Google Search Console data, using SEO tools that are effective and appropriate, like our reps. All of these things will help you make your content marketing processes better and more effective.

And finally, other things that are better use of time.

Yeah, so if you ever sat on a content committee, or a editorial board or any of these

fancy corporate structures for creating content, they chew up a lot of time you put 10 people in a room

20 people in the room, Heck, even four people in a room and say what are we going to make for content? Well,

that can be good sometimes occasionally. But more often than not, you spend so much time in those meetings, preparing for the meeting, and then post meeting takeaways. That if you would take in the two to three hours that you every person invested in that meeting and said, instead, lock yourself at this desk or cubicle or workspace or coffee shop or whatever, for the next three hours and create as much content as you can on these topics. That would be a much more scalable, better use of that same time that rather than having them 10 people sit in a room and just crank out post it notes on the walls and whiteboard drawings. Again,

that’s fine. In moderation, that is fine. Occasionally.

That’s fine when you have the data as a starting point for this is what is

Most likely to work? How do we make it work? So if you have a predictive calendar that says in the next four weeks, these are the top 10 topics we need to create content about great, that committee meeting can be super short. Here the 10 topics, who’s going to take this one? Who’s going to take this one? Who’s going to take this one? Do we need? Does anyone need help with outlines? No. Okay, go that, yeah, 15 minute meeting.

best use of time and scalable use of time to create content is a technology assisted thing. If you use that data, if you use those analytics, you can create content at scale,

and make the best use of people’s times. And so that’s a technology problem. In a lot of cases, well, it’s a process people and technology problem. So when you think about it, this really maps back to people process and platform people process and technology, time wasters or ineffective or problematic problems in any one of those areas or all three of those areas. So

Make sure you have a lookout for them. And then the resolutions are making sure that you’ve got the right people and you know how to corral their personalities. You’ve got great processes in place. And you’re using technology and data and analytics to as the bedrock for your content marketing so that you’re not left guessing and you’re not left as wondering what’s going on. So, important question about time wasters and more important how to fix them. Focus on the people the process and the technology and identify the holdups in each of those areas so that you can then go and remediate them, mitigate them so that you can move ahead. As always, please leave your comments below. And please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon.

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May 23, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Email Marketing Mistakes?
Lisa asks, “What are the biggest mistakes you’re seeing in email marketing?”

The top mistakes fit nicely into Bob Stone’s direct response framework from 1968: list, offer, creative.
- List: Do you have the right list? How much effort do you put into getting the right people on your list?
- Offer: When you do sell, are you selling what people on your list want to buy?
- Creative: What are you putting in front of your list in terms of content? Is it what they want?
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In today’s episode Elisa asks, What are the biggest mistakes you’re seeing in email marketing, email marketing, I have such a fondness for email marketing, it is one of my favorite channels to use. Because it is so effective decades after all these other channels have come and gone and social media has changed so much email marketing is still a delightful constant. And if it’s not part of your marketing mix, I would suggest that you make it part of your marketing mix as soon as possible. Because email marketing is the only channel of outbound communication that you have control over Yes, there are algorithms that block spam and things like that. But once you do the basics for fixing that sort of thing, then email gets two people, you put something on Facebook, no guarantee that more than a handful people are going to see it. The other channel that is reasonably guaranteed is advertising. And even that I was in a group the other day and someone was saying, hey, Facebook is taking money from our budget, but we’re not seeing our ads in the not showing up in impressions that great, so Facebook’s just money. So email marketing is is the beloved constant of marketers who who are in it for the long haul. The big mistakes, that I see an email marketing, that marketers doing wrong, all fit in the 1968 framework from Bob stone, I was a direct marketer at the time, one of the best in that era. And his framework was called LLC lyst. Offer creative. The three ingredients you need to make any kind of outbound communication work well for you. Now, email marketing can be split into sort of three different categories, there is direct selling, right just set offers to people. There is nurture, email marketing, where you’re doing drip marketing to somebody to try and get them to buy. And then there is the email newsletter, which is a form of communication. It depending on what kind of email marketing you’re doing will depend on on how you apply Bob stone strategy. But the concepts are still the same. On lyst, do you have the right list how much effort you put into getting the right people on your list, you can’t buy lists anymore? Technically, you can. But it is illegal. And a lot of places it is illegal under GDPR. Now, so you can’t buy a list. For the most part, you probably shouldn’t. And are the right people on your list. There are dozens and dozens and dozens of ways to build your email list. And in fact, I wrote a book years ago called 52 ways to grow your email list. Maybe it has been out of print for a really long time and it’s very out of date. Maybe I’ll refresh that. If you’d be interested in that come on over to the analytics for marketers slack and leave a comment. Go to trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers. And let me know if you you’d want to see an updated version of that book. So Lyft super important, the right people audit the offer when you do sell. And so with those three types of email marketing, the direct response, just grab them by the tie and choke them till they buy the nurture and then the email newsletter. When you do sell, are you selling what people on your list want to buy? Is the offer congruent with who your audiences? And this requires you do real research on your email list? who aren’t the people on your list? What are the industries? What are their demographics? What are their psycho graphics? What are their firma graphics, all of these things are part of understanding your list. There are some great services that will help you for x exceptionally large amounts of money, do analysis based on the email addresses on your list. But the easiest way, the understand who’s on your list of what they want to buy, is to run a survey to email people on your list and ask them hey, what are the things that you care about? What are the things that are prominent problems in your world, and so on and so forth. I try and do this like once a quarter what people care about and then you match your offers to what people say they want, right? It’s it’s pretty straightforward stuff if you want to be successful with email marketing, give people what they want. The third is the creative and this is what is the content, what content are you putting in front of your list? It is it again? Is it what they want? And again, if the easiest way to determine that is to ask people, what do you want, and you can ask them a couple different ways. Number one, when someone signs up on the list is that in the autoresponder as a great opportunity to ask them, you know, while they’re still fresh, hey, what do you want to hear about.

The other thing that people don’t do with email marketing is they don’t treat it as a one to one social network. And it shows up in two different ways. Number one, don’t ever send from do not reply it whatever your domain is, right? Send it from a person. Ideally, you if you’re the marketer, be proud to put your name on your email communications. And if you’re not, that’s a good sign that your emails not very good, and you need to improve it. When I send my newsletter. When I send the trust insights newsletter, I put my name and my email address on the reply. And I read and reply to them. Because that’s how you build a functional list that says, build a community by being there for them. And, and talking to the people who respond to you. Number two, the second way that shows up is in the way you communicate with somebody in the same way that we do it here with video with audio and things like that. Generally speaking, people do not read email and an audience right? Generally speaking, it is a one to one communication. So write your email as though you are writing to one other person. So for example, I don’t start my videos and they don’t start my angel. Hey guys, or Hey, folks, or Hey, everybody, right? It’s just you and me. Almost like somebody else’s sitting right next to you watching this video with you. chances are it’s probably just you and me watching it communicating with each other. Right? And so the same thing is true with email. And Hadley says this all the time in in her email marketing tips, which is right, specifically to one person, Warren Buffett, the example She cites is that Warren Buffett writes his annual report to his sister, Doris, because she’s an investor. And he communicates as though he was writing a letter to his sister, do the same thing with your email communications change from Hey, everybody, to Hey, Bob, hey, Doris, hey, Katie, this is an email for you, to you. And I want it to give you value. Right? So that’s, that is probably the most important thing when it comes to the creative. Would you send that email to a loved one, right? If you wouldn’t send it to a loved one, don’t send it to your list. Right. So if you’d like to send this, this is a hard sell pitch. By now time time limited. If time really is limited, cool, then, you know, be honest and do that. But it is the creative now here’s the thing that another mistake in this meta framework of lyst offer creative. The investment of time and resources should be proportional to the importance of each category. list is the most important 50% of your time, should be on building the right list 50% of your budget etc. Maybe 25% of your time is on offer. And then 25% is on Creative but build the if you don’t have the right people on the list. Nothing else will matter in terms of the impact of your email marketing, make sure that you invest your time and resources into building that list. Well with the right people. If you’re going to spend money spend money there. You’ve seen if I hope you’re subscribed to my email newsletter, if you’re not they’ll be a link at the end of the video. The design is nothing to write home about. It’s just a plain text email for the most part with a few header graphics. That’s it. Because I would rather spend my time and my few dollars I have to invest on getting the right list rather than making a fancy creative that if it’s the wrong list, no one’s going to read it. So those are the top mistakes and we could go on for a real long time about all the different ways you can do email marketing. I did it for years professionally. But great question Lisa important question. Make sure you get lyst offer creative right and invest the resources proportionately. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon take care want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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May 22, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Content Marketing Home Runs?
Lisa asks, “What does a home run look like in your content marketing?”

This is an interesting question because of the analogy. What happens more – home runs or runs batted in (RBI)?

The answer is the RBI, by a factor of 2-3x.

It’s great when you get the occasional home run that drives your goals – registrations, leads, purchases, etc. but if you’re aiming for home runs and nothing else, you’ll lose to the opponent who has an RBI engine that consistently gets players over the plate. So the question is, which content generates RBIs and which content generates the home runs?

This is where on-site attribution analysis is really powerful. Being able to determine which content drives direct conversions, last touch conversions, is straightforward and built into almost every analytics package there is. However, those home runs are relatively rare, and you know them when you see them. Identifying your strongest RBI engines is much harder to do, but in the end, that’s what’s going to win you the game.

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In today’s episode, Lisa asks, What does a home run look like in your content marketing? That’s an interesting question, isn’t it? Because because of the analogy,

if you look, baseball is one of the few sports that I know a tiny bit about only because baseball has been the subject of many, many data science and machine learning studies. baseball statistics are rich. They go back decades, and they are in well structured tables and data sets. So almost every data scientist who’s been practicing for a while, and has done some training has worked with a baseball data set at some point or another. And the funny thing is, if you look in your average baseball data set for a team, for center players, whatever

what happens more

home runs or runs batted in.

Now, if you’re a baseball fan and you know the answer to this, if you’re not a baseball fan, the answer is that the run batted in meeting a player who hit a single, double or triple

and got another player who was already on base over the plate.

That happens two to three times more than a home run.

And I think this is a really great analogy for the way we think about goals in content marketing. It is great. It is great when you get the occasional home run that drives your goals. Tons of registrations, tons of leads lots of purchases, checkouts, and shopping carts and all that stuff. But if you’re aiming for home runs and nothing else, that’s like aiming for conversions that let you know this last touch conversions only. You just want the person of buy something immediately. Now if your product is super low risk and super inexpensive or

Free, then yeah, you can focus on the home run because it’s going to be relatively easy like hitting a home run would be like putting a

major league baseball player in in like the kiddie Park, right? That will hit a home run all day long, because for them, it’s like hitting a ball 10 feet, you know, Major League Baseball players playing wiffle ball. But for everybody else, if you’re only aiming for home runs and nothing else you’re going to lose, you will lose to the opponent who has an RBI engine, who can just consistently get players over the plate in content marketing. That is, you know, the the content marketing consistently creates great content that moves players across the base and moves customers through their journey. And if you think that it’s a really good example, it’s a really good analogy because you have somebody on second base, sometimes they

they might stay where they are, so to move forward, sometimes you move forward a lot or a little bit. You don’t

No, but you need something to help them keep moving through their journey, right? Same as baseball. Not everybody’s going to be a slugger that can drive it over the fence. But you get somebody who’s got a team full of people who can hit doubles and triples all day long. They’re going to just crank that run engine and and they’re going to win the game. So the question is then, what content generates RBI and what content generates the home runs

because hopefully you will have at least a few home runs at least for you in your industry, whatever that looks like. It may not be, you know, the the chicken nugget tweet that generates 2 million retweets or whatever it may be something as simple as Hey, this is our highest converting content. This is our highest converting offer. highest converting landing page that’s for lack of a better term that’s your home run right then the other 95% of your content that generates that participates in some kind of conversion. That’s your RBI engine. This is

Were on site attribution analysis, analysis of your content on your website is really powerful.

Measuring the home runs, that’s easy, right?

But content that drives conversion, the last touch conversions that’s been built into web analytics forever. And, again, those don’t happen often. So if you’re looking only at last touch conversions, like what created the what created the the win, you’re going to get a pretty small and disappointing answer. What you need is the ability to do that attribution analysis to find your strongest RBI engines, which pieces of content just help keep moving people over the plate faster and faster and faster or more and more and more, because in the end, that’s what’s going to win you the game. If you’ve got a blog, and you’ve got 100, blog posts and 20 of them consistently get people to advance in their journey. Guess what, you’ve got the makings of an RBI engine, you’ve got the makings of a content

engine that’s going to help move people across the finish line. If you’ve got a blog, on the other hand that has like two posts that get conversions and 98 posts that don’t,

you’re leaving a lot of opportunity on the table. So the key is to do that on site attribution analysis to determine what content is really working for that last touch. And then what content is working to to advance the customer through their journey, whether or not it closes the deal. and improve that build more of that figure out what that looks like.

You may find as you do that analysis, that there’s certain types of content or certain topics or certain ideas or certain words and phrases that are consistently part of your RBI engine, your content marketing RMB I engine, what are they? What are those words? What are those phrases? And can you make more of that? They don’t want to focus exclusively on that stuff.

But at least in the beginning, when you’re trying to get more juice for the squeeze out of your marketing budget and your content marketing budget in particular, that’s what you want to focus on, you want to focus on improving what’s already working, building more of the stuff that’s, that works. And then

continuing trying to research, maybe there is an extra home run or new piece of content you can use that will continue to perform well. So you know, that’s an analysis you want to run frequently.

I tend to run that analysis on my website

about once a week to see Okay, is there a new piece of content that I created that Wow, that’s really getting the juice? It seems to have caught the audience’s eye. And in the meantime, going back and revising and tuning up old content that is still performing that is still generating those RB eyes. So a good question Lisa, and one that should get people thinking about ways to extend the analogy beyond the simplistic home run to what

helps us win the game. What helps us in any fashion make things better. And here’s one more thing to think about.

When you run that attribution analysis, depending on the method you use, and the code you use, some pages will either be zeros or may actually be negative in their scores of participating in conversions, guess what, those your duds? Those are the players on the team who who strike out, right?

You want to minimize those.

Just as a baseball team would trade those players like Oh, these are these are not just not working out on this team. You want to identify those players on your team and reduce, remove or mitigate their impact so that they’re stopping customers from dissuading them from converting. So think about that to extend the analogy a little further. Who your top players who your high performing players who are not

forum please take those out of your content marketing. So great question Fun, Fun analogy to think about and work with because this is the sort of thing that a lot of people understand. And that people can can really extend the analogy and look for more opportunities. So great question. As always, please leave your comments below. And please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems? Visit trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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May 21, 2019
How to Evaluate a Big Idea in Marketing and Business
We love Big Ideas.

We court them, we share them, we follow them. We pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to conferences so that speakers can share their Big Ideas with us.

Yet, at the end of the day – or the end of the quarter, or the end of the year – when we’re assessing our marketing performance, how much did those Big Ideas change how we do business? Some Big Ideas are more impactful than others. The key question for everyone with not enough time or money to invest in every idea is, which Big Ideas should we pursue?

There’s a straightforward way to separate Big Ideas that will work for you from Big Ideas that won’t, and it comes from the martial arts. In the martial arts tradition I practice, we have lots of Big Ideas called kata. Loosely translated from Japanese, the word means form or routine, in the sense of something you practice. Each one is a Big Idea, how to win in a certain way under a specific set of adverse circumstances. Maybe someone’s chasing after you with a sword, or two people are attacking you simultaneously – whatever the circumstance, you have to escape and prevail.

My teacher, Mark Davis of the Boston Martial Arts Center, taught us that to learn and master a kata, you have to break it apart and study each of the pieces. How does a wrist lock in the middle of Batsu Gi kata work outside of those particular circumstances? Can you make it work versus a punch? A knife? You operationalize each piece of the kata until you know how it works; when you put it back together, you truly understand it and can make it work for you in most circumstances.

Some kata work better for some people than for others. I’ve struggled with some and found others to be very aligned with how I move and fight.

The same is true for any Big Idea in business and marketing. Every Big Idea isn’t applicable to every business. In order to find the Big Ideas that work for you, you have to work with them in the same way as a martial arts kata.

First, does the Big Idea solve your most pressing problem? A kata that teaches you how to deal with a nine-foot spear attack is less helpful if you’re faced every day with a thug wearing brass knuckles. There might be some concepts you can transfer, but for the most part, you’d rather learn how to deal with the very specific problem you’re facing most often. The same is true for the Big Idea – does it solve the problem you face most often?

Second, can you break the Big Idea down into actionable pieces? Despite movie action scenes, no kata ever looks like “bad guy attacks, you instantly win”. There are sequences of specific actions you take to deal with the attack, nullify or evade it, and then disrupt the attacker’s ability to keep attacking you. Likewise, does the Big Idea break down into concrete steps, or is it just a fluffy idea with no action plans?

Third, can you perform the actionable pieces? A kata that relies on skills you don’t have isn’t helpful. If you’re being attacked by a spear wielder and the defense uses a war sword, and you’ve never practiced a day in your life with a war sword, the technique isn’t going to help. That’s not to say it isn’t valuable, but it’s not something you can use right now. The best martial arts address today’s problems and provide solutions that help now, plus help you grow. The best Big Ideas do the same – they help you start to put out today’s fire and set you on a path towards growth tomorrow. A Big Idea that requires a million dollar budget and a team of 20 people isn’t going to help the average small business owner.

For example, in my keynote talk about AI, one of the points is that vendors like Google Analytics already integrate AI into the service:

You don’t have to do anything except use the feature – it’s built right in, and it helps solve problems today by highlighting things you should know in your own data.

These three tips:
- Does the Big Idea solve your biggest problem?
- Can you break the Big Idea into actionable steps?
- Can you implement the actionable steps?
Help us understand whether a Big Idea is valuable to us or not. Listen to every Big Idea with these three questions in mind, and you’ll immediately begin creating more value for your marketing.

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May 17, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Bad Content Marketing Advice?
Lisa asks, “What’s the worst advice you’ve received or seen given to content marketers (or about content marketing)?”

Interesting question. There isn’t a ton of terrible advice out there per se – most content marketing advice falls in the same general buckets of “create content people love/people want”, “create as much content as practical”, “create content for the audience, not the company”, “be human”, etc. None of this is bad, but it all lacks nuance, and today’s marketers are so rushed and under such resource constraints that they either ignore it outright or mis-apply the advice. The net result is that content marketing is still somewhere between terrible and mediocre.

The solution is for content marketing leaders to provide much more specific, granular, and do-able content marketing advice, and for content marketers to pick apart the broad cliches and focus on continuous improvement, or kaizen in Japanese. Do keyword research on one blog post. Improve the cold open of your newsletter by writing it to one person. Reply to one social media post thoughtfully. Build a culture of doing things a little bit better every day in your content marketing.

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In today’s episode, Lisa asks, What’s the worst advice you’ve received or given to content marketers or about content marketing?

That’s an interesting question.

There isn’t, there isn’t a ton of terrible advice out there per se most, most content marketing advice falls into the same general buckets right? The same because we’ve all heard, create content people create content people want. create as much content as practical gave enter Chuck’s advice. create content for the audience and not the company. So being audience centric and in content, marketing, be more human, etc. None of this is bad advice.

None of its particularly helpful advice either because if it lacks nuance,

Today’s marketers, you mean, everybody we work with are so rushed. And under such resource constraints being asked to do more with less across the board that marketers either ignore the advice outright, or they miss apply it. They they

they don’t have the bigger picture plan goals, etc. And so the net effect is that content marketing by and large is still stuck somewhere between, you know, terrible and mediocre.

And again, this is not because the advice is bad, it’s just overly general. Think about other overly general pieces of advice. How do you lose weight, eat less exercise more?

Okay, that’s pretty obvious. How do you how do you get rich, buy low sell high, very, very general advice that lacks nuance that lacks

The specifics we need to be able to turn the advice into action. Right? And that’s, that’s where a lot of this advice falls down, create content that people love. Cool, what do people love?

Right?

There are even even things I’ve said like, you know, your content should either be something you love something you learned while you’re making or something,

you know that that you just can’t stop talking about.

But even that’s a difficult how do you do that? What are those things?

The solution to this problem, to the extent that there is one is that for those folks who are dispensing content and content marketing advice, leaders in the field, to provide much more specific, much more granular and much important doable, content marketing advice in smaller bite sized chunks, that sounds so

sounds like it’s dumbing it down.

But it really isn’t in a lot of ways it is making the advice more actionable.

There’s a Japanese term for this Kaizen, which means continuous improvement change for good as the literal translation of the characters.

And that’s incumbent upon everyone, all of us in content marketing, you and me to pick apart these cliches and find a little thing that we can do a little bit better every day. So real simple.

do keyword research for just one blog post, not you have to do a whole blog, you don’t have to take start a massive project and get a ton of of budget resources. Just pick one blog post that maybe gets a lot of traffic. You know, look at your Google Analytics, what’s your highest traffic blog posts Good going, going and tune the optimization and make it a little bit better? improve the cold open of your newsletter by writing it to one person and Hamleys advice.

You know, it’s it doesn’t take a lot of resources to pull that off. But instead of having the same generic newsletter, take the time to write a cold open just to that. Reply to one social media posts thoughtfully or one question thoughtfully.

By building a culture of doing things a little bit better every day, and your content marketing, your content marketing will get better now, is it going to be massively transformative and tomorrow you’re going to win a Webby Award? No, of course not. But over time, as you get better at your content marketing, you will get away from that constant, unwavering mediocrity and and slowly angle up towards towards good, then pretty good then really good then then great eventually. But it’s it’s that ability to pick apart a cliche and turn the cliche into something you

usable that really sets apart

a good Content Marketing Leaders advice and for all of us who are practitioners is the dividing line between which of us are good marketer versus which of us are an okay or not a good marketer to be able to be able to do the same to, to see something, pick it apart and figure Okay, how can I do this? How can I make this a reality for my company, my content, my organization,

my team.

And that’s tough to do. It’s it’s not something that people think about. So the takeaway here is, regardless of the advice you’re getting, if the advice is seems like a good idea,

focus on how do you pick it apart and break it into actionable steps and then just take one, take one of those steps until you’re good at it, and then take the second step and the third step and you can even take content marketing

advice that is so vague

and turn it into something that really delivers results for your company. So, good question. Interesting question. Again, the advice out there isn’t terrible. It’s just not actionable. So focus on giving and creating actionable content marketing advice. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon.

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May 6, 2019

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