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Magdalena asks, “How much should our actions depend on what the numbers and indicators show us? Is there any space for what we feel works well, even if after a month or two, the results don’t prove that?”

There’s plenty of room. First, consider the data. Data must meet the 6C Framework for Useful Data:

•  Clean
• Complete
• Comprehensive/Cover
• Chosen
• Credible
• Calculable

When data fails to meet these conditions, experience and gut may be a better choice. Watch the video for full details.

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In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, How much should our actions depend on what the numbers and indicators show us? Is there any space for what we feel works? Well, even after a month or two, the results don’t prove that as a really good question. It is a question of instinct versus data. When do you trust your gut? versus when do you rely on the data? And there have been a number of articles written about this. There’s a piece in Harvard Business Review not too long ago about how up to 50% eventual decisions in the C suite, our gut decisions that people will have the data and they’ll be data informed, but in the end, the decision is made by God. Why is this and Is this the right way to go? Well,

there is plenty of room for gut for experience for instinct if you will, because what that is, is that

Just accumulation of data at a personal level in business, where if you’ve got 20 years of experience in your industry, of course, you’re going to have a very different perspective than, say, the newest intern or coordinator who’s just copying and pasting data out of spreadsheets. And so there is value in that experience. More importantly, there are conditions that you need to meet with data in order for it to be useful for making decisions. And an awful lot of the time our data does not meet those conditions. So let’s go ahead and actually bring this up here.

These are the six conditions that data should meet the call the 60 framework of useful data and your data must meet these conditions. Otherwise, it’s going to fall apart and you shouldn’t make decisions on it. Number one, is it clean is it prepared and free of errors. So much data is not clean so much data is

corrupted, there’s all sorts of problems with it. And so you clean data is the first one

requirement. If your data is not clean, you can’t make decisions from it. The second easier data complete Mini, there’s no missing information. Anytime you load the data set, if you’re the first thing you do when you load that data set, you do exploratory data analysis. And in exploratory data analysis, the first thing I look for is missing values. Where did collection go wrong? It could be something as simple as, hey, our website was down for that day or something as complex and

ish issues like, Well, you know, the, this person didn’t report the date or the key that they forgot to key it in and stuff. So it is it complete. The third condition is, is the data comprehensive? does it cover the question being asked, and this is a a condition that we see a lot of, especially in social media marketing. We see it in finance to some degree, but

does the data answer the question being asked of it? So real simple question. Hey.

What is our social media program or what is our influencer program doing for us? And someone will

put a big pile of data on the table back the truck up, as we like to say around here and it and it’s all just like here’s the number of followers we have and stuff well followers as a part of that answer but there’s not a comprehensive answer it does not cover the spectrum of attribution analysis is only one tiny piece of you may have a lot of data that only answers 10% of the question. And so that your data has to be comprehensive, it must cover the spectrum of the answer that you’re trying to get. And the bigger the question is, the more likely it is that you’re going to have a very wide spectrum of of what that data is. So comprehensive is very important, especially when you’re talking about are we making a decision that is data driven

again, imagine you pulled up a an app the app on your phone and you said I want to drive from my house to my office and

The GPS app gave you 10% of the the road or 50% of the road. And and they just stopped. didn’t give any more data after that.

That’s not good. You can’t You can’t drive with half the map. I mean, you can, but it’s not going to go very well. So your data must be comprehensive forth, the data must be chosen. Well, this is the inverse of comprehensive in that

sometimes there’s too much data. Sometimes we just pour all the data on the desk, you’re like, Okay, well, here’s all the data we have. Well,

that’s not super useful. Choosing the data well means removing stuff that is irrelevant moving stuff that is unimportant. And this is where things like especially an attribution analysis and KPIs and metrics

we need to figure out what data actually matters a techniques like multiple linear regression and other statistical techniques, random forest etc. can help us figure out these are the data points to really pay attention to and these the ones that Okay, we’ll make sure that we have them

We need them but they’re probably not all that important if you don’t have that choice that choosing function as part of your your data preparation and loading

you’re going to end up with a lot of garbage in your analysis. A lot of stuff that you just it’s technically clean it’s technically complete it is part of the overall universe but it’s poorly chosen the fifth category is is the data credible? Was it collected in a valid way did somebody Miss key information did you did the person who was typing information where they drunk that day at work I hope not but

credibility of data truthfulness of data is really important you know it was the data in any way manipulated was the sample size wrong was the sample pool wrong this is especially important when you’re doing things like public opinion and and polls and surveys. You were the survey questions biased

If you don’t have credibility in your data, there’s an issue with web analytics. Think about as much as I love, love, love, love Google Analytics because it is sort of the one source of truth for a lot of what we do in the digital realm.

Is it credible to use Google Analytics to answer questions for which Google Analytics is not a great measure, like in store traffic like that, you will see people walking around unless you’re pushing that data into the application through third party integrations. It is not it is not a credible data source for offline, right. So understanding that even great tools and highly credible data sources in one domain may not be credible in other domains. And finally, and this is one that I think is really important that we overlook is the data calculable meaning can it be worked with Can Can people who are not data scientists work with the data and that means things like reporting and stuff have to be

simplified down.

For the layperson to us, so that they can, they can get analysis and insights out of the data and work with it within the limits of their skills. So that’s important. And this your data has to meet these six conditions in order for you to make data driven decisions if these conditions are not met,

or if if these conditions are, in some cases, very badly broken, then guess what, you are better off with instinct, you are better off with experiencing gut than you are with data because you you in this case, you’re making a decision with incorrect data really good example, say you’re driving along around your house or your where you live and and the GPS is saying, you know, go this way. Well, you know, from experience based on time of day based on how people behave and stuff that actually this is there’s another route that maybe is 30 seconds longer on paper, but really, I’ll save it five minutes.

Because the route that the computer chose data driven by incomplete, right, it was it doesn’t know that at this time of day, some monkey always parks in the middle of the road and the other the other house called the yard keeping truck parked along the side. And traffic just gets all fouled up. And so your experience on gut, which is really just nothing more than aggregated data that you’ve collected in your head overrides that same is true here. So there is absolutely room for what we feel works well, as long as our own data we’ve collected is sound and especially if the data that we’re working with doesn’t meet the 60s if you don’t check those boxes. Yeah, absolutely. Switch to instinct and gut because your data is not going to help you in a may actually harm you. So great question. This is part of the brand 2040 series. So you’ll see this on the brand 24 website as well. Thanks to them for providing these questions and the monitoring software that we use at Trust Insights as always.

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Magdalena asks, “From your point of view, what are the main indicators of performance in marketing?”

It depends. What is the goal of your marketing? That’s what the key performance indicator is. I define KPI as, if this number goes to zero (or the maximum bad state), you get fired. So for every company, and every practitioner, that number will be different. For every industry, it will be different. For every company size, it will be different.

The important thing is that a KPI has to have business impact. It has to, in some way, turn into dollars – and the closer it is to actual dollars, the more meaningful it is.

Something that marketers should do as soon as possible is a multiple regression on all their marketing metrics, with their KPI as a target. Watch the detail for full answers about how to convert organizational KPIs into personal KPIs for everyone on your team.

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In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, from your point of view, what are the main indicators of performance in marketing?

Well, it depends

what is the goal of marketing? What is the goal of your marketing because that’s what your key performance indicators going to be. And it’s going to be wildly different. Depending on your company, your industry, the company’s size, how you do business, and even very down to the practitioner down to the individual person, the marketing coordinator, just KPI is going to be very different than the CMOS KPIs as they should be.

I think it’s important to define what a KPI is my definition that he uses if this number goes to zero, or whatever the maximum bad state is, but it is number goes to zero. You got fired, right? So the marketing coordinator at say, a massive fortune five company

their personal KPI may actually be like yeah, you gotta guess more Instagram followers. And if you don’t, you’re fired, right? So that there’s a personal KPI there that that indicates whether that person is performing well or not. However, at a business level, at an organizational level, a KPI needs to have business impact. It needs to be it has to, in some way, turn into dollars. The only exception to this is when you have an outcome that is a non dollar outcome that your company or your organization is going after. And really the only non dollar outcome because even nonprofits for example, have things like donations and corporate donors and stuff like that to pay to keep the lights on the the only non dollar tangible outcome I can think of in as an example would be a politician seeking election where there’s a measurable outcome elected or not elected, but it is not a financial outcome. At least the election isn’t

Is our collection isn’t Sorry, it’s maybe a little cynical.

But in order for everyone else will have KPIs that are that have to turn into dollars. And the closer that your KPI is 2, the more meaningful it is, and the more valuable it is to your organization. So, for example, let’s take a in the b2b marketing world

website traffic is pretty far away from dollars, right? It’s, you know, you got a whole bunch of stages, you know, some of the sales pipeline, they got like 44 stages in their CRM website traffic way on the end, and so it’s it’s really far away from dollars. On the other hand,

if you were a super clever marketer and you’re using AI chat bots and all these crazy new technologies, and you could reliably deliver sales qualified leads or even real opportunities to your sales team. Guess what, that is a

Very close to dollars. And so your performance as a marketer would be

much more closely watched, but also much more valuable to the organization because you are delivering as close to dollars as you can get within your role. And so when you’re, we’re trying to decide what indicators to use for performance and marketing. The closer we are to dollars, the better. The same is true in any other industry. If you are

if you’re working in b2c

in retail, the closer you can get to know someone taking an idol off the rack and putting other register the better so if you are doing you know, end cap performance or in store walk ins and things those are much more valuable than say brand awareness that’s not to say that brand when there’s isn’t an important but it is part of the chain of evidence that gets you to take the item, put it on the register and and have the person checkout so that those KPIs need to be as close to dollars as possible. Now,

you say welcome.

Not everybody in the organization, whatever can have, you know the register checkouts or mortgage applications or or car sales or oil wells drilled as as their KPI that is true so what you need to do in order to get to get to take the business KPI and decomposes you need to do what in statistics was called multiple linear regression a multiple regression

you’re going to take your KPIs laid out on a giant spreadsheet bought as with as as fine a resolutions you can get so maybe its monthly day a cool weekly did a better daily data great and then you’re going to take all your KPIs they’re going to be columns in the spreadsheet and then you take all your other metrics so social media followers mentions brand awareness clicks on ads

newspaper articles, press releases sent out that day to talk shows that your your executives were on all that stuff everything you could possibly lay out

into a spreadsheet that has a nonzero value.

And then you’re going to run this statistical tests this multiple regression to figure out what combinations of variables have a strongest statistical relationship to your KPI. So it might be like, okay, with a number of Instagram comments, plus clicks on a pay per click ads, plus

talk shows plus articles in our trade magazine plus number of conversations at conferences equals it has a strongest mathematical relationship to to sales or sales qualified leads or or store walk ins. Once you’ve done that math, you established correlation. And then the next step is to do testing and you say, okay, for whatever reason, Instagram comments plus

videos on YouTube seem to have the strongest relationship. So let’s double the amount of work that we do on those variables and see

If leads increases proportionally. So if we double the amount of YouTube videos that do well, and we double the amount of Instagram comments we get do leads also double,

and that’s your test causality. Once you’ve tested causality, and you’ve established that, yes, this mathematical relationship is because these variables, cause the KPI. Now you have the ability to take those variables that you know cause the KPI and assign them to people like a Social Media Manager instead of followers on Instagram. Turns out that doesn’t have a mathematical relationship or causal relationship with leads, but comments containing the word great, do so make stuff that people comment, that’s a great, that’s your new KPI. Hey, pay per click management

and now CPA around25 and click through rate above 10%. That’s your new KPI. And so you can decompose based on all of the metrics you have. You can decompose your business KPIs into individual KPIs, and everybody now knows what to focus on. And that’s so

valuable because it means that instead of having to try and do everything, you focus on the stuff that is mathematically working 80% of the time, and then you leave 20% of your time and efforts to experiment with new stuff to always be testing and trying out new things. But if you do that, you’ll waste a lot less money, you’ll waste a lot less time trying to measure and do everything, you focus only on the things that you mathematically proven first, through correlation, then through testing and calls out to establish causality that works that generates the business outcomes that you’re looking for. Now that math is not necessarily easy, but it works because you’re you’re using the scientific method you are proving that what you’ve done will have a a real business outcome that is measured in dollars or as close to dollars as you are allowed to get in within your role so well, great question. The main indicators of performance and marketing or whatever is working to generate the

Business outcome. Great question. This is also a part of the series for brand 24. So you’ll see this on the brand 24 website as well. If you have questions for you ask answer or for any of the the podcasts and blogs and stuff that that I do for myself and for Trust Insights, please leave it in the comments. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and we’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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Magdalena asks, “What should be marketers’ main focus – numbers or creativity and innovation? Why?”

The idea of asking someone to choose being qualitative or quantitative is inadvisable. People have natural aptitudes, and asking them to focus on something that isn’t their strength tends to yield mediocre results.

The more important focus choice is whether a marketer is operations-focused or experience-focused. Customer experience is absolutely vital, as is marketing operations – but in larger companies, you must choose to focus on one branch more than the other. Which choice you make dictates hiring, team composition, and ultimately your brand’s effectiveness. Watch the video for full details.

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In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, What should marketers main focus be numbers or creativity and innovation? Why?

I don’t think these are focus points. And the reason for that is numbers and quantitative data excellence and things and creativity, innovation out of the box, thinking

two things. One, you can’t be either or most people are a combination of both. And these are attributes these are characteristics of the person. So some people have an aptitude towards the quantitative they love data, they love charts they love all the the slicing and dicing they’re very analytical thinkers, other people very creative thinkers they’re out of the box thinkers

today with artificial intelligence and and the ability for machines to do very narrow

Asked extremely well, you really need to be both, although it is has since been proven neurologically untrue. The idea of left brain and right brain still is a a false dichotomy. You need to be both brain, right? You need to be able to do both things,

the greater challenge, I think, if if marketers have to put a focus somewhere, it’s not on trying to change themselves to be something that they’re not. If yes, absolutely, you should always have a lifetime of learning and development and, and experimenting in creative tools, experimenting in quantitative tools. But if there’s a focus that you have to choose from, because both can be very overwhelming it is whether you are business focused or customer focused. And again, just like left brain, right brain, you can’t just do one but because of the scope and the scale of being very business focused on what we were

Marketing operations or being customer focused on what is customer experience and and buyers journey customer journey

unless you work at a very small company you can’t really specialize in either one

well especially working small company you can specialize another one you have to do both and then as you work a bigger companies you started to have a path where you are on more on the operation side or you are more on the experience side that’s to me is is where you have to make a choice as marketers to what you want to be known for what you want to be good at and what tools and systems and technologies you will specialize in because they are very different marketing operations tends more towards things like automation, CRM,

it making sure that that marketing happens and there’s still absolutely stuff like focus groups and surveys and stuff to to get a sense of what customers think.

But you really are working towards furthering the goals of the business and you’re working towards making marketing operating as efficiently and as effectively as possible. On the experience side, you are all in on voice of the customer, you are all in on the customer journey and the paths touch points analysis, attribution analysis and understanding customer behavior, psychology, understanding, neurology understanding how the human being makes decisions and then optimizing your marketing to those decision pathways. It there’s a lot of data mining and a lot of exploration. What are people saying about a product? What are people saying about our competitors to understand that experience that they have in trying to do path analysis and so that’s where marketers have to make a strong choice in focus in their careers. Now, you heard a lot of the same tools in both sides data analysis activity.

analysis, path analysis, things like that. So it’s not again, it’s not left brain, right brain creative risk quantitative, you need both attributes to be successful. Or you need to have a team that

compensates for where you are not as strong. But what does that mean focus is going to be are you working on making a marketing function more efficiently and effectively? Or are you working more on serving the customers needs so that the customer is endlessly delighted by everything that you do?

And by the way, that’s not just Product Marketing. A lot of people think customer experience is Product Marketing, how can we make the product work better the way the customer wants it to? It’s much more about the experience the customer is actually exposed for the first time they become aware of your brand all the way through owning and being a loyal advocate for your brand. And that is a discipline a career path it is is a massive change in focus for the average marketer.

And so that’s where you your marketing focus has to be. If you are managing a team of marketers, you need to split your operations about 5050, who’s going to be on the operations side, making marketing run, who’s going to be on the experience side, making the customer happy. If you default towards one of those disciplines,

the other suffers, the other can be neglected and you will pay a price for it. If you are less focused on operations and marketing will not run as well. stuff will fall through the cracks, things will not run as well.

If you ignore the customer experience, you’re going to be in an obnoxious, annoying marketer, you’re going to be the one you’re gonna be the person who’s you know, we have this cadence, we need to hit

the Email button every three days. We need between 22 times a day and it will all be stuff that nobody wants because you are focused solely on the operations and being very company centric, that you won’t be customer centric. Thanks.

So that’s where the risks are.

Great question

again, because people think that they have to make a choice about being something that they’re not. It can be a very misleading question. So instead of choosing quantitative, quantitative, choose operations, focus with some in informed experience on the customer experience side, or choose customer side with some focus on the operation side, and you have to do both. Again, these are all false choices. You must be everything in a lot of ways, but choose one of those two disciplines to add focus to to become better at so tough question. Great question. As always, please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel. I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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Magdalena asks, “Can you run effective marketing without data?”

Yes, you can, under certain conditions:

– You lack scale, so you can talk to customers all the time and get an accurate sample of what your customers want and need
– Data is not an essential ingredient to your business
– You are okay with a ceiling on your growth

We marketed for hundreds of years without modern marketing and data capabilities by having an absolute focus on the customer and guessing right a fair amount of the time. That, combined with limited channels of communication, made marketing without data very possible. The best companies over the decades collected smaller amounts of data and made great guesses, as well as some terrible ones (like New Coke).

Today, as smartphones and smart devices take over every aspect of our lives, marketing without data is significantly harder, but as long as you continue to serve the customer, you’ll guess right more often than not.

That said, if you don’t like guessing, then you can’t run effective marketing without data.

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In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, Can you run effective marketing? Without data? Yes, absolutely, you can think about the history of marketing marketing has been around for decades, if not hundreds of years, Modern Marketing certainly has been around for decades, marketing itself. I mean, technically, as soon as the first store was invented, in pre historical, you know, in, in pre modern times, that bizarre merchant shouting out his wares to the to the passers by, that’s marketing. So, absolutely, marketing has functioned. Without modern data analysis capabilities for very long time now

can what are the conditions under which you can market effectively without data, number one, you lack scale,

you’re okay with that, that that lack of scale, so that you in and the people who work for, you can talk to customers all the time, and get a

true sense of what the customer actually wants.

And again, this is not new,

even relatively big companies in decades past were able to talk to customers do surveys, do focus groups, things like that,

just get a sense of what the customers actually want, and actually need

today, obviously, that’s a little bit harder. But if you’re okay, with, you know, not becoming a massive conglomerate overnight, then yes, you can market without data. The second is that data is not an essential ingredient to your business. So if your business is a data based business, then obviously, you’re going to need to market with data. If you if it’s not, if what

you do is you just love to make people happy by making a certain kind of food or, or things like that, then yeah,

you can market without data, because the, the data is not an essential ingredient to your business. Third, if you’re okay, with a ceiling on your growth, if you’re okay with being a cap that we’re after, which you’re not going to grow, then you don’t need to use any data without marketing, other than what you do when you’re interacting with customers on a daily basis.

Marketers, like I said in the beginning,

they’ve marketed without modern data systems for decades, if not centuries, and the most successful ones stayed in tune with the customer. They talked to customers, they were out in the field every day, they were at the store front everyday, whatever the cases, they were talking to people every single day, about the business about what the customer needed, and things like that. And they guessed right, they guessed right a fair amount of the time. And they may, they were able to make a product a hit, because they guessed what the customer wanted. Steve Jobs was legendary for this. He guessed what people wanted and a fair amount of the time he was right even things that he wasn’t necessarily right about at the time, eventually ended up being reasonably right guesses like the Newton was their handheld device in back in the late 90s, it didn’t do very well. But the handheld device with machine learning recognition, very, very primitive at the time of handwriting, and things, of course, eventually became the iPad. And so he was known for being able to guess what the consumer wanted. They were there are tons of cases where companies did not guess right about a product and new coke. For example, for those of you with a little more grain your hair, you remember that Coca Cola tempted to change their recipe, it didn’t go so well. Today, that’s a lot harder to do. There is for a couple reasons. One was smartphones, smart devices, all these things have taken over our lives. And so they are transmitting a lot more data, which means that if if you choose to not use data as a company, your competitors are. And so they have substantial competitive advantage over you in terms of what the customer is saying, what the customer is doing, and things like that. And so marketing without that data is very, very difficult when your competitors are using data, this data, arms race and second, customers

or companies, I should say, have substantially less appetite and tolerance for risk companies now don’t want to guess they don’t want to waste years and potentially millions or billions of dollars on a product that the customer doesn’t want. And so data is absolutely essential to marketing to inform that marketing to inform product development in the marketing of something so that they have a guaranteed hit so that they have or it’s close to a guarantee is they can get really good example of this. And, and one that that shows you one of the risks of relying too much on data is hollywood, hollywood is not made an original movie in a really long time, we are up to what Avengers four and Iron Man for

All of these relatively uncreative formulaic

movies, because

that’s what the audience wants. And there there isn’t enough research to show that it’s worth taking a risk on a completely new formula that the audience may hate, because movies tape cost 10s of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars, except for the little indie breakouts. And so

today, marketing without data is substantially harder,

can you

be effective as a marketer? Yes, particularly if you are a more senior marketer, and you have other people who are good at data, who can provide some of that, even if it doesn’t necessarily drive decisions, at least informs your decisions. The New York Times had a great piece on this not too long ago, about being the difference between data driven and data informed data and foreign means that you take it into account as one of the factors in what you choose to cover are not carry but you don’t dictate your business solely based on the data, which is what data driven is. So can you be effective in marketing without data? Yes,

but as much, much harder than it used to be. And you have to work for a company that is extremely risk tolerant and because you’re going to be guessing all the time and

there’s a good chance you’re not going to guessed correctly.

They’re very, very few people who are who are Steve Jobs in any industry these days. So great question. Interesting question. This is actually a part of a series from brand 24. So we’ll be

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Hana asks, “Why don’t more companies use video marketing and live streaming?”

The short answer is that because they have no plan, they won’t do anything due to risk aversion and lack of perceived value. To launch a video marketing initiative (or frankly, any marketing initiative), you need 6 concepts and 3 plans in place. The six concepts:

• Goals
• Research
• Strategy
• Tactics
• Execution
• Measurement

The three plans:

• • Overall marketing plan of action
  • Cost/benefit analysis
  • Crisis plan

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In today’s episode mana asks, Why do most corporations not take advantage of live streaming and video marketing for their businesses? The answer to this question is that they’re usually lacking six key things. Six things you need to make video marketing successful. Six things you need to make any kind of marketing successful. Number one is you need a goal. What are you trying to accomplish from a business perspective video for video sake is fun, it’s tinkering. But if there’s no actual goal, then you’re gonna have a really hard time getting budget and funding and approval for a formal video project something other than you know, shooting stuff on your smartphone.

Once you have that you need the second thing you need his research. What sorts of information do you need to gather about the process

US of video marketing or the process of live streaming that will be impactful that will yield intelligent results that will you’ll good results. So what do you need to know about the different strategies do you need to know about the different tools, the different vendors and things like that No research means you’re just going to probably go through a lot of iterative cycles and take a very, very long time to launch and possibly make some avoidable mistakes. The third thing you need is a video marketing strategy which is goals times those methods. It is the why of you. You’re doing the video specifically for the fourth thing, you need our tactics. What are you going to choose to do? What are you going to choose not to do? This involves everything from budget like what what a budget you have is going to constrain your limits to channels, what channels should you be doing stuff on to how many people are you gonna need to do the thing so your tactics are

The fourth thing, the fifth thing you’re going to need is an execution strategy, a plan of execution, what’s the methodology? What’s the script? Was the template what’s the the pieces you need to make video marketing work well for you, that can be things like the schedule when you’re going to do these episodes because you should always with video with any kind of content marketing really have regular frequent

content that is available at the same place and time on a regular basis. One of the things that I asked in one of my marketing keynotes is how many people remember when Seinfeld was on when and what channel and these days still about anywhere from a third to a fourth of the audience. A third to half of the audience remembers that Seinfeld was on Thursday nights at nine on NBC back in you know, 20 No, yeah, 20 years ago now,

which is astonishing. Someone remembers the day in time of a TV show.

Many years later, because it was great content that was available at a specific place in time on a regular repeatable basis. The same is true for any kind of marketing that you’re doing. Your email newsletter, for example, should be on the same day in time, generally, so that people know to expect at those times.

So your execution strategy has got to incorporate timing, it’s got to incorporate the methodology it’s got to incorporate software and workflows and things like that, like

if you search on on the YouTube channel, you should be able to find the video of of the process of putting together these daily videos extensive process but that process is the execution strategy to make sure it is as efficient as possible. And the sixth and final thing that you need to make video marketing or live streaming and whatever successful within the enterprise is you need a measurement strategy and the measurement strategy has to be more than hey we got X number of viewers or this video got X number of views unless views is your only benchmark so

If you are a publisher, or you’re you’re trying to build a publishing channel, where you’re going to monetize that channel solely with eyeballs in video advertising, then yes, views would be inappropriate metric. But for everything else, things like reach and awareness,

things like lead conversion or in store visits, you’re going to need a much more robust measurement strategy, which takes all your video data into account, but then blends it with all the rest of your marketing data. And as part of a robust attribution analysis strategy. If you don’t have that, then you’re not going to prove the value of what you’re doing. So those are the six things that you need to pull off a good video marketing strategy or good live streaming strategy. And

lots of companies don’t have those in place for anything much less for video marketing. So that’s the reason why many companies are hesitant to take advantage of newer technologies. Without that plan, risk aversion becomes the default response. No, that’s still

risky What if we screw it up? What if we publish things silly? What if people laugh at us? What if we cause legitimate legal or financial complications, especially for publicly traded companies. And for companies that operate with very sensitive data, you absolutely want to mitigate your risk. And so taking advantage of new channels is very difficult for people to do. Because

without that plan of action, there’s no way to show that you’ve accounted for risk. A big part of getting a pilot approved for at a company is drafting out this comprehensive six part plan and then spending some time especially on the governance side of things to say, Hey, this is how we are planning to mitigate and avoid risk where these are the things we’ve done and these are the almost like the crisis plans we’ve set in place so that if something does go wrong, we have a procedure in place

To handle it, doing things like that, where you have the cost benefit analysis, where you have the plan of action that shows you thought through everything, and you have the crisis plan is generally going to reassure stakeholders enough that they’ll, they’ll be comfortable with the pilot program, if not a full fledged outright program. But you need those three different plans in detail to get those approvals at the most regulated companies. Now, if you’re a small startup or whatever, or you’re at a very aggressive company

can probably do whatever you want, as long as it generates results. But for more traditional companies, you’re going to need those three pieces. So great question. It speaks a lot to corporate culture. It speaks a lot to that planning process. But if you have the planning process in place, if you’ve done your homework and you’ve put together a solid plan, there’s a good chance that you can get your your video marketing or your live streaming

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Kerry asks, “How do you choose data science software if you’re not already a data science expert? My company is evaluating some vendors and I’m not sure what to ask.”

By definition, a data science platform should be flexible enough and robust enough to fully embrace the classical scientific method. Be VERY suspicious of anyone advertising that their platform just gives you magic answers to your questions without going through the rigor of, well, science. It’s one thing to automate laborious pieces of work. It’s another thing to skip steps entirely. A kitchen stand mixer helps you with the laborious chore of mixing. No appliance maker in the world tells you their appliance helps you skip the process of mixing.

Be equally cautious of any platform that claims to do it all. The more it claims to do, the more difficult it will be to implement, and the further behind you may fall if the vendor doesn’t keep up with the latest.

I personally recommend learning how to use software like R or Python. Yes, it’s a bit like learning how to make a cake by forging your own pans and building your own oven, but you will know how everything works, and you will be able to iterate and update rapidly as technology changes. Their major cost is building or hiring expertise.

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In today’s you ask I answer. Carrie asks, how do you choose data science software or a data science platform? If you’re not already a data science expert, a company’s evaluating vendors, and I’m not sure what to ask

by definition of data science platform

should be enabling the process of data science, which in turn means that you should be following all science and the scientific method. One of the things I’ve noticed in the software industry in general, in marketing software. And now in data sciences, that there are a lot of companies making, I think, are very suspicious claims.

Think about the scientific method, right? Let’s, in fact, bring that up here. This is the scientific method, you start with a question that you want to answer, you define your variables, then you put dicks and you make a hypothesis. And if you’re doing it, well, there’s probably a null hypothesis as well as, as a regular hypothesis, then you do your testing, you collect your data, you analyze it, you refine it, you have the observe the the prediction in an action, the hypothesis in action, if it was valid, and you start the process all over again, that’s the scientific method. It is centuries old.

And it is the way to do any form of science, but especially data science. And one of the things I think is especially problematic is you have a whole bunch of people now we’re taking these sort of crash courses in data science, and they’re learning the tools, which is important, and they’re learning a lot of the concepts was concepts that people didn’t learn in school, like statistics and such, but they’re not learning it from a scientific perspective. They’re learning it from a very narrow purpose built perspective, hey, you want to learn data science, here’s your going to learn just Bioinformatics, or just marketing or just operations, or just finance and not the scientific method,

be very suspicious of any vendor that has advertising that their platform just gives you a magic answers, right. And, and, and their platform doesn’t go through the rigor of science, right? It is one thing to automate some laborious pieces of work when you’re doing, for example, exploratory data analysis, and you need a tool to help summarize your data set totally makes sense to have a machine do that to go through and do all the standard observations. How many missing variables Mean, Median mode, all that stuff? total sense? So automating laborious work, okay, if the vendor saying hey, let’s skip

you could skip these processes and go right to your answers. Hmm, nope, does not work like that. Can you imagine like a kitchen stand mixer

or

an employee clients, maker of kitchen stand mixers, and advice kitchen appliances, saying, hey, in the baking process, you can just skip mixing our appliances so magical. Just make the bread for you. And you don’t need to mix Um, yes, there are such things as no mix breads, they’re not very good.

A kitchen stand mixer helps you with the laborious chore of the mixing process, right? It’s not fun to sit there with a whisk and do that for for 20 minutes.

But it doesn’t tell you what can you can skip the process of mixing cannot skip that step

in the scientific method. You have to you have to do each of these steps. And you have to do them in order. You can’t start analyzing data if you don’t have a hypothesis. And a lot of people do that. A lot of people say all I just know that this is the answer just in the process the data that’s not data science.

That is

that’s the opposite of science. That’s in curiosity, you’ve already got a conclusion. You want to prove canaries trying to back into that conclusion from your data as opposed to having a Is this the right answer? You know, I suspect that Twitter engagements lead conversions. Okay, that’s the start of a hypothesis. That’s a good question asked what, what data will you need to define step you make a prediction, I predict that Twitter engagements lead to conversions. And then you can go and test and collect and analyze and refine and observe that’s science,

not it’s not even data science, that’s just science.

The second thing to be cautious of, especially vendors is a platform that claims to do it all. When you think about even just this very simple process. Here, it is a very,

you know, the scientific method is very, very well defined. And every one of these phases, you doing something different, right? In the in the red section, you’re asking questions you’re thinking about your data, you may do some exploratory data analysis to and help you formulate the question. exploratory data analysis is a discipline, it’s a subset of data science. So you will want to, in that question, define phase, do your eta with the tools of your choice. But that’s going to be very different than the tools you use for test collection and analyze, right?

It’s a similar, you may apply similar statistical means. But it may be a very different approach. If you’re doing financial modeling, what you’re using for testing collection of data will be very different than just, you know, pulling stuff off the shelf, when you are analyzing your data, you will will help us very different methods. If you are observing your date in action, you’ll use very different methods. Think about it from a marketing perspective, if you are trying to figure out what your brand awareness is

the exploratory that you do use maybe using things like social media data, or search data, but then you’re testing and your collection data may be using things like market research or surveys,

there is at least in in the marketing world, no, one tool that does it all, there are tools that, you know, for example, in Google’s analytics suite, there’s a ton of different tools in that suite. And you will use different tools as appropriate, if you have a data science product or platform that claims to do it all. The flip side of that is that it’s going to be more difficult to implement than a point solution for a particular task. And it is more subject to technical debt, which means that the vendor will have a harder time updating it to do everything, then to do the one thing that does really well. And if your vendor doesn’t keep up, then you accumulate that technical debt in your organization. And it becomes very, very difficult to adapt to whatever the next thing is. So if you are today, doing very, very basic linear regression modeling, it will be very difficult for you to switch over to say TensorFlow and and doing neural network modeling, if your vendor doesn’t have that flexibility.

Personally, I put a lot more value into learning software like our or Python and services like that. Yes, it’s, it’s a bit like, you know, going back to the cake examples, bit like

MIT learning how to make a cake by forging your own path in your backyard iron fortune building your own ovens if

it’s not for everybody. But you will learn how everything works, you will learn how to iterate how to update rapidly how to add new libraries in to increase your knowledge store.

And it allows you to keep your technical debt to a minimum, because you’re always keeping things up to date, you’re maintaining your own code

as when you become a software developer. Obviously, that poses a different set of tasks and buying something off the shelf. But if you are concerned about

choosing a wrong vendor, particularly if something is very high risk, or is a significant undertaking that you may want to explore the route of building it yourself, because you will, chances are, especially if you’re not familiar with data science, right now, there are requirements in the requirements gathering process that you’re not good that you that you will uncover later on down the road. And the project Oh, we should have asked about that. And now this vendor you selected doesn’t have that. Whereas if you’re learning how to code you like, all right, we need to code that into thing as well the major cost of these programming languages of courses, building or hiring the expertise to do that. But that’s my personal preference. It is not for everybody, and by no means is it the right way. It’s just a perspective so

learn data science, at least learn the basics and learn the scientific method and then evaluate your vendors based on their rigor to the scientific method if you’re if you want to know how to get started evaluating vendors so great question Carrie complicated question, complicated question,

but the answers are in how well a vendor adheres to process so thanks for asking. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take

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Adam asks, “What is customer experience? Is it the same as customer service?”

Modern customer experience management, as a discipline and a profession, is an amalgamation and evolution of four sub-disciplines:

• Voice of the Customer (1993)
• Design Thinking and UX
• Analytics, AI, and Big Data
• Champions and Defenders

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In today’s you ask I answer Adam asks, What is customer experiences at the same as customer service up? No, it’s not. But Customer service is part of customer experience, modern customer experience, what we call the discipline of customer experience, or customer experience management is an evolution and emerging of three different

ideas.

First is a management concepts that I think dates back to the 1990s, if not earlier called the voice of the customer, what does the customer really want, and, and so in. In the old system, this was actually someone whose job it was, was to represent the customer in meetings and things to just speak up on behalf of the customer and product development and things. And it has since evolved to

really bringing

in the voice of the customer with using analytics and big data and artificial intelligence and machine learning now to take what the customer actually says, and make it a core part of businesses decisions.

The second aspect or discipline

that is, in modern customer experiences was originally UX and UI, what does the user experience what is the user interface that a product or service offers in particular digitally, so things like website design, navigation and stuff. And this, of course, has also evolved into design thinking journey mapping

the process of managing the customer, so

everything from what is the customer journey look like how the different components integrated so that you’re not doing single touch point analysis. But now you’re you’re tracking the interactions through out a customer’s experience through from first becoming aware of the company all the way to be loyal advocate of the company. And then applying design thinking to the customers interactions that every one of those way points in their journey from what does a website look like classic UI UX to what happens when they walk in a store, how are they greeted what color shirt so the employees wearing things like that you can see a lot of design thinking in the best customer experiences. When you go to say, the Apple Store. There’s a clear workflows, a clear process, when you go to a fast food restaurant, there’s a clear process

I’m at work.

The third

component of customer experience

originally was sort of just data

in general, and then became big data as as Big Data Systems became more prevalent and now incorporates analytics AI, machine learning all the platform pieces

that help us understand

not the customer, but everything that they do. And all the outcomes that lead up to

that sort of sum total customer experience. So

in traditional retail, for example, this would have been things like our FM analysis, recency, frequency, and the amount of transactions what things boosts someone’s our FM scores. This would include things like Net Promoter scores, and customer satisfaction data. This includes all the digital and non digital interactions that a customer has with us from the moment they click on an ad, or watch the video to the moment that they set foot in the store, where do they walk within a store, if it’s a if it’s a brick and mortar store.

And then of course, the business outcomes, how profitable or unprofitable is a customer, how much does that customer cost not only an acquisition but in servicing does is this customer returning things all the time, we’ve seen some recent changes behind the scenes in the way company, please look, Amazon serve customers where customers that have an abnormally high number of returns are score differently and treated differently

because they are more expensive customers.

And then the last part is really the champions and defenders. So within their organization, there are people who are who are responsible for the overall customer experience strategy. And then you have sort of two groups that are somewhat oppositional you have the customer champions again, the people who advocate for the customer like sort of migrated over from voice of the customer to because I became a much more about data

to the the individuals championing

for the customer saying I I think this is a bad experience for the customer

and then you had the defenders

Who are the people who advocate on behalf of the employees

really good example in our our Olive Garden case study that we did where the customers love unlimited supersize breadsticks. The employees hate that dish with a passion because they are they, as I say breadsticks slaves

in in that instance, you see a champion, you know, advocating for the customer, but there’s no defender advocating for the employees. And so you need those two groups to to counter each other and find balance to say, this is it, this is the best experience we can manage while still not harming our employees. And our ability to do business in the long term. Because obviously, talent journey and stuff is is an incredibly expensive part of doing business. So all for these things, people process platform and participation, Voice of the Customer design thinking Analytics API in big data, and champions and defenders are what constitutes customer experience

in customer experience management, you need to have all these capabilities put together so that you deliver an optimal outcome to the customer. If you don’t have good process. For example, you know, you can have all the the people on the champions and stuff you want. But without that process, you’re not going to improve the customer experience. If you don’t have great data,

you’re not going to be able to

know what you’re doing is working.

If you don’t have voice in the customer, you’re not doing qualitative and quantitative data, you’re just guessing at what the customer wants, instead of actually listening to the customer. And without those champions and defenders with no participation, customer experience is just an idea on a slide deck somewhere. So you need all four components working together to create customer experience in its modern incarnation, and this will change somewhat over time. But for the most part, the people the process, the platform and the participation are

relatively timeless,

they are relatively straightforward things that indicate this is how we get to to a great customer experience. Now to the question of how is it different than customer service, customer service is a subset of customer experience, customer service satisfying customers fixing things that are have gone wrong, would use similar things, you know, voice of the customer is very much the element of service, listening to the customer. Listen to what they have to say. Same for design, thinking and process, what is the process what is the experience that a customer has when

something goes wrong, and they want remediation,

tracking the data around customer service, and then having people advocating for or against specific customer service processes, procedures, things like that, internally, the company all of that is part of a customer experience. But customer experience is much more than that. If you think about the customer journey, awareness, consideration,

evaluation, purchase satisfaction,

retention, loyalty and evangelism

service really isn’t that second half the back

half of the journey where

once the customer has purchased something, what is their experience with the company with the brand. If the experience of owning the thing is terrible, then obviously, you’re going to have a much bigger problem and it will seep into stuff like voice of the customer data, but customer experience covers the entire journey from awareness, all the way to loyalty, so it’s much bigger than just service by itself. But you can’t have great customer experience without great service. So great question. Adam. A complex question. This is an entire discipline, customer experience. Management is a profession into unto itself and, and even specializing in pieces of it such as like voice of the customer, modern voice of the customer is very different than it used to be thanks to machine learning. And so there’s a lot of opportunity here for companies to to build a great customer experience, deliver a great customer experience and obviously reap the financial rewards of great customer experience if they do it well and have all these pieces in place. So great question. As always have a questions please use the link here in the show notes. subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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