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  • You Ask, I Answer: Influencer Marketing Tips for Companies

    You Ask, I Answer_ Influencer Marketing Tips for Companies

    Genevieve asks,

    “What are some of your best influencer marketing tips?”

    What a great, complex question. Influencer marketing is done so poorly today. Generally speaking, we want three different outcomes:

    • Improved reach
    • Improved connection to decision-makers
    • Improved reputation

    These outcomes require three different kinds of influencers. Learn who each kind is, how to identify them, and how to measure our influencer marketing in this video.

    You Ask, I Answer: Top Influencer Marketing Tips for Companies

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    In today’s you ask I answer john via asks, what are some of your best Influencer Marketing Tips

    companies do influencer marketing generally incorrectly. And the reason for that is they don’t have clear goals they don’t have a system for getting to those goals and they don’t have a way to measure them that’s intelligent, a lot of influencer marketing has devolved into who’s got the biggest mouth

    or who has the most followers, maybe a little who’s got the most engagement. These days, but even that’s kind of a not a great metric because it’s too general to to non specific

    so let’s talk about

    how to do influencer marketing in a more thoughtful way first. What are your business goals

    all influences are not the same. There’s three.

    broad categories of influencers, they are influencers who are loud and that’s okay. If you need reach if you just need market awareness. If you just need always

    allowed influencer with them. million followers is going to do the job for you right if you hire a Kardashian, you’re gonna get a good chunk of the Kardashians audience to briefly, pay attention to you pay, pay for that over and over again and it’s just like any other form of advertising and that’s okay. That’s why we do advertising.

    The second type of influence you might want the second type of outcome might want our connections to the right people. This is especially important if your business relies on a complex sale sale, which requires a connection a warm handoff and an ushering in an ambassador in into a tight knit community or to a close community where simply we don’t have access

    and the third outcome we might want from an influencer is reputational improvement being a.

    associated with this influencer being endorsed by that influencer would be something that would be beneficial because people would see us as more credible. So you have credibility connection and noise reach broadcast. Those are the three general outcomes that you could get from influencers.

    What does your company need

    if you buy the wrong kind of influence, you’ll get an outcome that doesn’t match what your company needs. That’s part number one part two

    is

    based on knowing the outcome you want what kind of influence or do you need again for the broadcast. You need someone loud a Kardashian will do if you just need a lot of loud noise and even in smaller niche communities. If you’re going to say a trade show like RSA conference hymns dream for CES

    having somebody who is loud who can help you be louder than the crowd is it.

    Good thing. So that’s a really good example of what when you’d want a loud influencer when you need to be able to shout above the rest of the noise,

    the connection influencer is somebody who is going to do that introduction that that warm referral that that that reaching into a community that you don’t have access to.

    They are going to be very different. They will not necessarily have a lot to say they will not be super present online in massive ways right there are probably gonna be a little bit quieter.

    But when you look at

    their network if you visualize the network you would see that they are the hub right they are they are the core of their network and everybody is connected to them and they’re connected to everybody.

    And then the third kind of influencer really is that authority somebody who has their own strong reputation everyone talks about them. They may not.

    Say, very much, but everybody talks about them. Professor Stephen Hawking didn’t endorse for, say, a whole lot about other companies, but everybody talked about Professor Stephen Hawking that late Professor

    that’s that third kind of influencer for those who with a little more gray in your hair. You may remember a commercial from the 70s or 80s. If you’re a little younger you can see these on YouTube, but they used to be a commercial for an investment firm called EF Hutton and headed by a person named EF Hutton and the tagline of their commercials was when EF Hutton speaks everybody listens and that’s that third kind of influencer when that person does speak everyone stops pays attention. What’s he gonna say What’s she gonna say they’re going to endorse somebody like

    when that person speaks about

    marketing or the best tool or the best fun to buy or the the best airline travel everyone goes all right all if it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for me.

    So that’s part two is knowing who the person is that matches the outcome that you want

    and you’ll use different analytics tools different influencer measurement tools for that the broadcast persons really easy to measure right loudness the connection persons difficult to measure you need visualization software that can do network graphs to understand how well connected somebody isn’t you want the person who is the center of their network. This type of algorithm called sensuality, you’d use that and then the authority is a different type of network graph where you’re going to measure who talks about so the number of degrees of connection inwards to a person.

    The third part is the measurement of influencer marketing and this is where again companies really fall down.

    They just assume loudness is what you want. Now if you’re buying reach if you’re buying broadcast then yeah, you’re going to measure it exactly like advertising where how much loudness did we get.

    How much brand awareness. Did we get how much traffic to our website that we get and you want, you’re going to want big numbers,

    you’re going to pay for big numbers, you’re going to want big numbers.

    And again, you may not buy the endorsement of Beyonce right but if you did, you would expect to see big numbers because that was not that would not be a small endorsement deal.

    So that’s the reach outcome. You’re going to measure that with stuff like web traffic top of the funnel big numbers big awareness, the connector, you’re going to measure in the CRM, you’re not going to see that in web analytics your connector may only get you five meetings, but those five meetings, could we have five multi billion as you want to write you a check for a billion dollars right let’s go look terrible and your web analytics, but your CRM, you’re going to be like wow look at this room full of Benjamin’s that suddenly appeared. And so the outcome. There is very, very different. The system you used to measure a connector influencer marketing program will be very different. You will have to use the.

    I’m for them

    the authority is even more difficult to measure because that looks a lot like

    in many ways, it looks like reputation reputation management. So how many people search for you by name, does that go up as the authority confer some of their authority upon you.

    How much coverage. Do you get in traditional press or media or within your community. How many more people talk to you because they heard the influencer talk about you and it looks very much like traditional public relations in many ways.

    So think about

    how you measure your reputation as the way to measure that third type of influencer now what you see here is that these three buckets of influencers have three outcomes three different kinds of influencers that require three different identification measurements and systems and then three different outcomes and metrics and analytics

    where companies go wrong.

    They assume all influencer marketing is the same, you just buy influencers. Well, that’s not how that works. That’s, that’s how you you waste a lot of money instead of buying the outcome that you want and identifying the partners, you need and then the measurement system that goes with it. So when it comes to influence or marketing. Those would be my suggestion identify which the other three outcomes you want find the right people based on the using the right technology and then measure the outcomes based on the kind of outcome that you’re looking for. So you’re you know that you you bought the right kind of influencer marketing to reach your goals so many companies do this wrong so many companies to swipe the credit card and hope for the best. And that’s no different than running a bunch of on targeted ads you might get the right people, but chances are you’re just gonna waste a ton of money john we have great question complicated question complicated question.

    Hopefully this provide some insight for everybody who is doing influencer marketing to be able to do it better. Thanks for asking. As always please subscribe to the YouTube channel and.

    The newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Small Business Marketing Strategy Mistakes

    You Ask, I Answer_ Small Business Marketing Strategy Mistakes

    Pradeep asks,

    “What are the most common points where Small & Medium Sized Business go wrong in their Marketing Strategies?

    The three that are most common in my experience:

    • Failing to have clearly defined, measurable goals
    • Trying to portray themselves as something they’re not/larger than they are
    • Failing to have a truly unique selling proposition

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    You Ask, I Answer: Small Business Marketing Strategy Mistakes

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    In today’s you ask I answer pretty asks, what are some common points were small and midsize businesses go wrong in their marketing strategies.

    Well, there’s a whole bunch of ways, small businesses can go wrong and marketing strategies, but a couple of them. Number one, not having clear goals

    we see this often in small businesses where they just kind of do stuff because they think they have do they just check the box but there’s not an obvious quantifiable goal that they’ve set out to do. Everybody goes out on Instagram well isn’t the best choice for that channel for that company, it may be, it may not be

    you should obviously test and see what works,

    but

    you don’t have to be doing everything just because.

    You read it and an airline magazine.

    You should have goals quantifiable defined goals and then measure to them. The second thing, especially for small businesses is trying to be something you’re not

    this is an age of transparency and now and for a while there was validity to the idea that wanted to appear bigger than you were because people would trust a bigger company, but we live in a society and period of time now where well, frankly,

    nobody trusts anybody and big institutions are a lower on the list of things people trust people now trust you know artists and all in boutique and all these things and so

    it’s okay to be honest about who you are about how large you are as long as you are great at what you do if you are great at what you do

    as long as you can do it to the scale at somebody needs you to to do that.

    You will have business. You don’t need to pretend that you’re something you’re not likewise trying to keep up with bigger companies in your space is a fool’s errand to and it will be an extremely expensive one. You will not compete toe to toe. As a small business with a company spending a quarter million dollars a day on advertising, you simply cannot do it.

    What you have to do instead is be smart. Where do you have advantage where what is your advantage.

    For example, I am a co founder of a two person startup Trust Insights.

    We’re not pretending work center or Deloitte or any of these things right. I’m filming in my little home office here not faking a background with an elaborate you know polished

    corporate boardroom can’t fake it. You shouldn’t fake it. Be honest as to who you are and then be honest as to.

    What it is that you do that’s different. So in our case,

    we have the strategic abilities. We also have the technical capabilities can actually do

    everything we say we do so we talked about machine learning or predictive analytics

    grab my laptop over here and immediately start showing how the thing works and how it applies to a business which is not something the big competitors can do a lot of cases, the big competitors

    will talk about the thing and will wax poetic about the thing. But when you ask them to show you the thing we like I got to get like five other people in the room here took to explain the thing. So

    when you’re marketing your small business or your mid sized business. Be honest about who you are and focus on the things that make you different and better that will fit a certain percentage of the market.

    The third thing is.

    Especially in marketing strategy understand who your customer actually is

    if you try to market that you’re everything to everyone.

    No one will understand what is special about you

    as strategist David Maister loves to say we put 47 things in our brochure to show that we’re not good at anything which is to say we do it all. But we don’t. This is not our thing and

    that’s very accurate description of so many companies marketing strategy, they just kind of throw it all out and say well we don’t we can do anything. Yeah. But what are you good at what is what is the thing that you are known for you want to be known for, and many small businesses have not clarified that even though it’s one of the oldest things that you learn sales. What’s your unique selling proposition. What is unique about if I scraped off the your your company name and logo. What I still note. What’s you.

    FYI, take out an ad and scrape off the name and logo. It’s still says think different you know who it is. And

    even if I scraped off that that slogan. The visuals and things would still tell you who that company is so having that distinction is important and so many companies do not have that distinction. They simply throw out like we’re everything to everyone and we’re they use all the other words that every company in this space uses

    but in doing so there’s nothing that sets them apart. So those would be the three things

    focus on measurable goals be transparent and honest about who you are and have an actual unique selling proposition that truly distinguishes you from your competitors, it’s a terrific question. Thanks for asking if you got a question, please ask in the US. I answer link in the post to.

    As always please subscribe to the YouTube channel and into the newsletter this coming week going to have a sneak preview some stuff that’s coming up. So make sure that you’re subscribed and thanks for watching.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing In a Privacy-First World

    You Ask, I Answer_ Marketing in a Privacy-First World

    Ann asks: “How do we analyze and target in an age of privacy?”

    In the wake of Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s testimony to Congress, which some Twitter pundits amusingly called the Zuckerbowl, some thoughts about privacy, data, analytics, and marketing.

    Disclaimer: I AM NOT A LAWYER

    • Consult an actual lawyer

    Watch the video below:

    You Ask, I Answer: How To Market In An Age of Privacy?

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    We need to take three strategic steps: Own, Build, Learn.

    Own

    • If you’re not paying, you are the product
      • Doubly true for business services
    • Download as much data as you can right now
      • ESPECIALLY FROM APIs
      • Regulation is coming
    • Run backups in parallel of critical systems
      • Google Analytics? Matomo as your backup, on your own server
      • Cloud servers are $5 a month

    Build

    • First party data is essential – your analytics, your data
      • Understand and control as much as you can
    • First party data collection
      • How did you hear about us?
    • Strong data governance
      • Ask or have legal counsel review your data services
      • GDPR will require you to anyway
    • Clear user agreements and policies are the law of the land in places – be globally compliant as much as possible

    Learn

    • Learn to model on behavior
      • Do you need to know someone’s intimate details?
      • Behavioral targeting cannot be compromised if there’s no PII to begin with
    • Learn patterns in owned data from API data that may go away
      • Now is the time to construct those statistical models
    • Create AI/ML models for your data so you have a snapshot and algorithms in place to make inferences

    Will social go away?

    • No
    • Facebook isn’t losing substantial numbers of users
    • Which means marketer’s can’t afford to stop using it

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    In today’s you ask I answer game. One of the Zucker bowl as some people are calling it is over. Mark Zuckerberg co Facebook has testified to the Senate will be testifying to the house. Next I don’t expect any know brand new insights to come out of that and about five different people all messaged me and said. So what does this mean for marketers, how do we market in an age where privacy is the default were targeting is much more difficult. So how do we do this before we begin, I am not a lawyer. I don’t even play one on the internet, if you have legal questions, please consult an actual lawyer somebody who can certify the answers that giving you are correct. This is just my perspective as a marketer and as a data person not legal advice. So

    we will need to do three things own build and learn what’s dig into these number one own we need to own our day.

    If you are not paying you are the product that is that is the fundamental truth of all this and it is the truth of the internet today. If you are not paying money out of pocket. You are the product this is definitely true for business services you think all those free things from all the different tech companies or have no strings attached in the 75 page User Agreement. Yes. What you are the product. So if your business relies on these services

    they are an under no obligation to help you stay in business, except as that bet these tech companies

    need to further their own interest. So understand that they like you as a product they may like you as a customer. If you’re paying a nominal amount. But fundamentally, they have to stay in business, they will do whatever it takes to stay in business, including put you out of business. So Own your data. This also means download as much of your data as you can. Right now, especially if your business relies on.

    third party data from any number of API’s add systems analytics customer data platforms, whatever it is, if you if you have a third party company that is controlling substantial portion of your businesses data download it now because regulation is coming. It’s already here in parts of the world, the most well known. One is GDP or the general data protection regulation in the EU, which has planetary consequences, but more regulation is coming. Mark Zuckerberg and CEOs of technology companies don’t testify in front of Congress, because Congress has nothing better to do well i mean they they don’t necessarily have more productive things to do, but that’s politics

    regulation is coming. We know it’s coming what form. It will take we don’t know

    the third thing in own is have backups of critical systems run backups in parallel for critical systems really good example. Almost everybody on planet uses Google.

    analytics. It’s free. Remember the first lesson

    and it is the gold standard and marketing and for good reason. It’s a great product. It is a fantastic piece of marketing software and I would say it has advanced marketing and business growth for 10s of thousands of companies and created billions of dollars in value to the economy. It is a valuable product and I holy support Google Analytics and the Google team,

    but I’m not under any illusion that Google

    wants to provide this without strings. Right.

    So if your business relies on web analytics, you owe it to yourself to run a backup. There’s a package called matondo analytics, which you have to run on your own servers, you have to

    spin up a cloud server install the software and get it running it is a web analytics package to the differences you own the server and you have to pay for the server, but it’s your own data, then you own and so run in parallel.

    moto mo cloud services which again you this is now you are the customer, you’re paying money for these things. Anyway, we’re going to be between five five and 20 bucks a month so you can afford probably to do this yourself unless you have like zero dollars. So that’s part one

    part two build first party data is essential, your analytics your data. So you need to understand the control as much as you can

    and start if you have not already done so start doing much more first party data collection behavioral data preference data asking people how did you hear about us. I can’t tell you the number of web forms. I’ve been on where no one ever asks that question. It’s an important question. How did you hear bass. Who told you about us. You need to collect that data because that data may not be available from a third party systems second in build you need strong data governance ask or have your legal counsel review all the data services you work with all the everything that the.

    Everything data in your company needs legal review and then needs a strong governance policy, you need to have governance in place that dictates who is responsible for what, where, when, why and how gt PR is going to require you to do this anyway if you do any business outside of your nation that could potentially interact with them. He uses and GDP or requires you to do this anyway so having that is an important part clear user agreements clear data policies are the law of the land and places and the easiest thing to do is be globally compliant with the the the strictest standards which in this case right now is gt PR for many things except spam laws which candidates castle was sort of the strictest in the world right now be globally compliant with the highest standard and you’re and you’re good to go. Third as marketers, we have to learn how to learn to model on behavior we don’t necessarily need to collect as much data as we do, we can collect the minimum viable amount of data we need to make decisions, our systems.

    Dead. We should also be collecting lots of behavioral data because it can’t be compromised. You can’t steal someone’s identity by telling how many pages they visited on your website and in what order but we can make good business decisions as to whether someone’s a viable prospect based on the order and flow of the pages that they visited on our website as an example that’s owned data. It’s ours. We can build models on it and it’s not sensitive data in the sense that someone’s identity could be compromised with it. We have to learn patterns in owns data, especially for stuff like social media data search data web analytics data, whatever, anything that we are interacting with from systems. We don’t own and we need to do our best to build and understand patterns in in all this third party data and constructs statistical models today with the data we have the says when people do X, Y amp z and come in on this page and behave like this. They are likely to convert we need these patterns in case those API’s and that third party data goes away. If it does, we have models that we can use to can.

    Need to make business decisions from the data we have and third in the Learn category we have to if you have not already done this already, you must get good at machine learning, you must be able to build machine learning algorithms based on the data that you have today. Remember, Part One who are going to download all the data that you possibly can and build machine learning algorithms machine learning processes and methods to make inferences in the data that you have to make up for the data you will lose when companies and regulations take over Trust Insights just released a white paper on this on and we just did this with LinkedIn shares because LinkedIn stop sharing part of its API. So we have to go and backfill that data. This goes back to part one download all the data now so that you have it as a training library for when these things go away. Finally, will social media. Go away. We’ll Facebook going no no is not going away. Facebook is a losing a substantial number of users according to the.

    testimonial in the congressional hearing, which means that marketers can’t afford to stop using it.

    We will change and I will be blinded by some of the data loss but fundamentally nothing and Mark Zuckerberg testimonial indicates that social is going to lose any importance or that regulation and restriction is imminent social networks going to do the best they can to self police and that means pulling back a lot of access in his testimonial which will include a link in the notes and he talks about what they’re doing with additional restrictions on apps on developers on API is that will continue to be the case. So

    social is not going anywhere but allow the data we’ve gotten comfortable working with will now is the time to own your data build a good strong internal ecosystem with strong governance and build lots of machine learning models on top of it so that you are ready when the fire hose becomes a trickle again all the sources from this art in the show notes and stuff here. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to my newsletter which is my dad and I.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Get Executive Buy In For Content Strategy

    How To Get Executive Buy In For Content Strategy

    Brandon asks, “How to get executive buy-in for your content strategy?”

    This is a great question that requires TWO sales – one to the executive for why they should embark on content marketing as a strategy, and the second about what the company should be producing in terms of content. Both are important.

    To answer “why content marketing”, sell the four core motivations of every business executive:

    • Make money
    • Save money
    • Save time
    • Prove value

    To answer “what content should we produce”, sell audience-centric content reasons:

    • Measure sharing
    • Measure search value
    • Show that on average, audience-centric content creates more value

    Watch the video for the full explanation and details, plus how to produce these measurements:

    How To Get Executive Buy In For Content Strategy

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    In today’s you ask I answer Brandon asks, How do I get executive by him for your content strategy. Okay. So there’s two types of buying that you need to get for executive content strategy, the why and the What the Why is relatively straightforward

    executives stakeholders board members pretty much anybody who’s going to make an approving decision cares about four things. So it’s understand their motivations, because they are your first audience their motivations are generally one of the following four make money, save money, save time or prove value

    if the content strategy, you’re presenting does not reinforced does not sell one of these things you’re probably not going to get by him. Conversely, if you sell in multiple benefits like this is going to make you money and it’s going to help you prove your value to the organization you’re probably going to get by and very, very quickly. So the more of those core motivations for your executive audience that you can sell in the faster your content strategy or will get executive by or any strategy for that matters not just content strategy help somebody make money help somebody saved money help somebody saved time or reduce opportunity cost losses and prove the value of that person within the organization. The second content sale. You have to make which is much more difficult sale

    is selling audience centric content selling content that is going to benefit the audience and not necessarily the the company we brain trust in sets we say, you just have to use a five one will five pieces of content that are helpful to the audience for every one piece of content that’s helpful to you to your company and the reason for that is that people need this. I need to understand the value that you’re providing before they’re willing to do business with you. So

    in order to do that you have to measure two things you have to measure sharing, which is essentially free marketing and you have to measure search value which is how many people think your content is so valuable that they’re willing to link to it from an outside source and if you run the analytics. I was doing this yesterday for another client on average audience centric content, content that is focused on the audience and their needs, rather than your needs as the marketer

    tends to perform not only better in terms of sharing and search it would significantly better substantially better and that in turn drives traffic which in turn to drive conversions on your website,

    any kind of action that someone could take that would be value or use. So that’s the second sales, a little bit of a harder sell for a lot of executives help them understand you need to make content that the audience actually wants in order for you to then earn the right to sell to them. But that’s how you get executive by in for your content strategy you sell what the audience wants first which is more results and then you sell to what your customers want

    to that executive in order for them to get in order for them to buy in to

    the way that you want to market in the modern era. Now, what happens if you don’t get executive by in

    you

    couldn’t end up not doing the content strategy at all which is actually not be at the worst outcome. The worst outcome would be a highly marketing centric or company centric content strategy which is all just by now by now by now that it’s actually going to create reputational damage at best. People will ignore you at worse that they will

    they will repeatedly savages and it will diminish your reputation outside of

    outside of the just the marketing sphere will diminish your reputation among your existing customer base. So as you embark on a new strategy. Keep an eye on two things keep an eye on brand organic search people searching for your company by name because if you’re doing a great job of providing value more people should be searching for you by name and keep an careful I am both new users and returning users on your website because new users indicates you’re reaching new audiences, but returning users tells you whether your existing audience is satisfied by what you’re publishing. And if the answer there is 100% new users, then the something in your content strategy that is not helpful to the people who already like you

    and that will help you tune your content strategy and so you can continue to make that sale to your executives and continue to make content for that benefits your audience. Keep an eye on those metrics. Great question. Brandon and it’s a one that a lot of people need some good answers to. So as always please subscribe to the YouTube channel, the newsletter all the things and I’ll talk to you next time. Take care.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Top Instagram Marketing Tips

    You Ask, I Answer_ Top Instagram Tips

    Chiranjeevi asks:

    “What are your top 10 tips for Instagram marketing in 2018?”

    We don’t need 10 tips. We need to rigorously follow one:

    If our content does not entertain, engage, or educate, it will perform poorly.

    That’s the sum total of an effective Instagram marketing strategy and where 99% of brands go wrong in their marketing. Watch the video for the nuances, but that’s our first and foremost focus.

    You Ask, I Answer: Top Instagram Tips

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    Chiranjeevi asks for top 10 tips for today’s you ask I answer you don’t need 10 really only need one and that is make content that the audience actually wants. Remember the three E’s rule entertain engage or educate

    those are the golden rules for all forms of content marketing of especially for

    people are on Instagram to see interesting stuff. Nobody wants to see your product over and over and over again unless it is illustrating what they can do what their life will be like

    an aspirational channel. Look how beautiful your food could look Look how wonderful your vacations could look Look how much more relieving you your time and the office could book because the purely visual channel is a visual storytelling channel and it is an entertainment channel your content on Instagram has to do one of those things. So

    if you’re just showing stuff on Instagram. That’s your product over and over again. That’s not entertaining. It’s not educational it’s not engaging nothing what you post on there’s going to matter the camera doesn’t matter the lighting doesn’t matter the video quality doesn’t matter

    entertaining entertain engage or educate

    I was working, not too long ago with a kitchen appliance company they make stuff for the kitchen and they’re like, Well, why doesn’t Why doesn’t anyone like our stuff. Well, there’s stuff was boring. There’s just their product over and over again. I mean, there was no sense of what you could do with it. That was unique makes food like everything else makes food that’s not helpful.

    There was no special angle. There was no aspirational aspect, like, look how much better your food could be if only you use this gadget.

    And so that entertain engage or educate strategy is what you need to do. Now let’s take a few examples. Let’s say you have a smartphone right as smartphones is pretty easy to to show how it will make your life better. But you also need to have that aspect of uniqueness how your product is not going to be completely unique and still be valuable probably it will probably have competitors. It will probably have something

    some kind of aspect that other people can replicate. What’s your unique spin on it. How do you showcase that visual storytelling. Suppose you have a webcam. Well, everyone’s got a webcam. These things are pretty count. Right. They all look like little eyeballs that go on top of your computer. What’s different about this one. What could you show that would be different about yours, maybe show how yours is resistant to hacking by the government or Russian hackers, something along those lines, something that’s a unique and different storytelling approach with

    the product of the subject of your photos is

    not the protagonist of the story, the story. The protagonist of the story is the viewer who was thumbing through a feed and if they see something that helps them understand this is how I become the the movie star poster hero version of myself. They will stop, they will take a look. May May tap on the ad to to learn more. So think of it from that perspective as well, something I learned from my editor.

    The protagonist is not who we write in the book a protagonist is the reader.

    Finally, you can’t using Instagram story to tell somebody what the benefit of your product is or the reason why it’s important or unique or any of this, and you have to show it.

    I was talking to one person at Social Media Marketing World who helps a market cutlery and they’re like well you know our steel is better than all the phones are still because it’s this particular type of sweet is stealing like i don’t care i care about if I throw this knife against a tree will the blade break or will the tree break

    and I’ve got to be able to see that as silly as those ads were remember the old turbo Ginsu knife ads when they’re like salto a lead pipe and then a tomato right the steel was terrible. The knives were not particularly good knives,

    but the gimmick was really obvious like wow this is a couple of metal pipe, nevermind. That was lead, which is both toxic and soft and then color tomato, I can cut the issue right nobody’s going to cut through a shoe sensibly with a knife, but it illustrates the point and you can you could do that in a story or photo or add very easily here kind of shoe and half cut up a bamboo Poland half cut the second half and it would be a way of illustrating the benefit of the story of the product not telling somebody that this is the sharpest knife in the world now show. Hey, I just cut through, you know, a fence post. That’s how you use Instagram to educate entertain to engage. If you don’t do one of those things visually

    nothing else you do on Instagram matters. So that would be my one and only tip and if companies could get better at that they will be so much better off than focusing on anything else. Don’t worry about lighting. Don’t worry about beautiful photography, be able to tell a good story with your camera. First, as always, please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel. Thank you for watching.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Advice for a Starting Marketer

    You Ask, I Answer_ Advice for a Starting Marketer
    Chris Strub asked, “What is the best advice for a marketer just starting out in 2018?”

    Build the three Ps that we so often talk about at Trust Insights:

    • People: your personal network of people smarter and better than you as well as your peers
    • Process: your golden cookbook of strategies, tactics, and methods of execution that work well
    • Platform: your focus of study, your deep investment in yourself that you want to be known for

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    Today, Chris Strub submits a video question by us guy answer. What’s up, Chris Penn. My name is Chris job and I’m reaching out to you and everybody else on that list today to ask for your best piece of advice for a young aspiring Digital Marketer in 2000 and a team. All right, Chris. Great question. What should a person starting out in marketing focus on or do in order to be successful.

    You have to invest in in the three P’s we call them three piece here a Trust Insights. That’s people process and platform and so let’s dig into each one of these.

    The people are you are folks that you need to invest in to grow your network. So this is the networking portion and there’s three types of people you need to invest in their seniors peers in juniors, seniors are your mentors your the people you look up to.

    Experts you follow and things like that and you need to build those connections. Now it’s obviously it would be extremely difficult to build a meaningful connection with somebody who is, you know, at the top of their field. It can happen. And if it does happen by all means take advantage of it. But, you know, probably your first mentor is not going to be Avinash Kaushik your first mentors, but not going to be Neil de gras Tyson right but you look for people who are a little further along than you look for people who are publishing good stuff and connect with them. The second group of people are your peers. These are the people who are getting started out the same time as you and these are folks in the workforce. These folks when you are in school, particularly for college and graduate students. This is the literal cohort that you graduate with keep in touch with those connections for anybody who you actually enjoy spending time with keep in touch with those folks, because you don’t know where those folks are going to land in 510 1520

    years from now.

    And then the third of the.

    juniors and these are the folks who come after you. And again, this has nothing to do with chronological age that has to do with experience. So if you’re at a company, anybody who starts, you know, at the company. The day after you is technically your junior and you know even if you’re 2223 years old.

    If you’ve been other company for a year you have more institutional knowledge and the person walking in the door, you know,

    the next day or the next month. The next year. And as time goes by,

    you have an obligation to pass along what you’ve learned help to share to train and to grow the expertise of those who are junior to you because again

    enlightened self interest you don’t know where those people are going to land, you may work with somebody and and

    you know change companies and things like that and you could end up reporting to that person of it’s entirely possible so investing your seniors up.

    And your juniors those the people. Second is process, you need to build your own book of best practices.

    I like to call it a golden cookbook, and I have one minus a couple hundred slides long. It’s a PowerPoint of things that

    I’ve learned or I’ve created over the years frameworks ideas charts,

    all these things that are concepts together. So there’s some very familiar Business School ones you know SWAT and Porter’s five forces and all the stuff you expects to be in there and then stuff I’ve created on my own like people process platform, the intersections of those things like that

    you need to golden cookbook because it helps you document what you’re learning as you’re learning it it’s like you know your notebook your textbook for you for your life, in your career.

    Later on in your career once it’s been filled out a little bit, it becomes a proof of your experience if your knowledge.

    of what you’ve learned in the beginning, you’re going to have a lot of stuff from other people in there. So you’ll believe you know charts from Accenture frameworks from Deloitte

    I concepts and and and visualizations from McKinsey and all the big consulting shops and big publishing companies and things like that. That’s okay. That’s okay to have that and then there because you want those reminders also of hey this is what I’ve learned a long way. But that golden cookbook will become essential, especially if you ever find yourself in a position of having to demonstrate your expertise, like in sales or sales enablement role. It’s going to be one of the best things you can put together to disable Hughes everything I can do and people have like that’s a lot of stuff you clearly have done this for a while.

    The third is platform.

    If you want to succeed and digital marketing. If you want to have a functioning career of any kind, you need to invest in yourself, you need to invest in your personal platform. By that I mean

    being.

    Really good at something being the best at something investing the time and the effort to develop an expertise that a second to none.

    You may not necessarily become the best, but you’ll be in the top 1% you want to be known for something so pick something and get really good at it and especially if you’re young you got time. All right. You’ve got decades. So if you take a year every year for five years to test out something I’m like, Well, what do I want to really be good at. Let’s try machine like wow, that sucks

    too good for a year and if you invest and training yourself in and for a year and at the end of that year, you still ate it then you know switch it up but pick something and become the best at it because we are now in a world where mediocre is unnecessary. We don’t need to settle for good enough. We don’t need to sell the four okay

    thanks to the internet, thanks to the.

    digitization and democratization of access to people and technology businesses can afford to say I want the best only because they can get a distributed workforce. They can outsource overseas. So you have to invest in your platform. What is your thing. What do you want to be known for when somebody mentions your name.

    What is the thing that goes along with it

    and be ready to pivot

    15 years ago or 10 years ago. Yeah, almost 15 years ago. Wow.

    I was one of the first podcast has podcasting was something that I was known for I created a conference with my friend Chris Brogan called pod camp, way back in the day. And that was the thing for a few years

    and then then the world changed and so I pivoted and became the sort of the Google Analytics person that was my thing. It’s still is my thing because Google Analytics is still a thing

    and then.

    About four or five years ago and pivoted again and start at when I started noticing machine learning was good to become a thing. So, machine learning within marketing and that’s going to be a thing until it’s not so be be ready to pivot, but there’s a thread that kind of runs through them all, which is using technology and applying it to marketing’s marketing technology

    that’s my thing that I invest in myself and when I say invest in yourself. I don’t mean spend money. I mean, you know, you’re investing in yourself when you’re spending an hour a day outside of work on your own time

    training yourself. There are a million and a half YouTube videos on just about every topic, there’s free ebooks, you know, there’s an companies are desperate to attract attention giving away everything and and that’s okay.

    But there’s so much training so much opportunity. Google has free courses HubSpot has free courses at Twitter has free courses. Everybody’s got free courses that you can take.

    You have to invest the time. That’s where people fall down and they expect somebody else to do it for them were handed to them doesn’t work like that. You have to invest the time in yourself. And if you do, you will see incredible career growth because

    99% of everyone else are not investing the time they take the minimum amount of training required by their employer. They stopped learning wants to get out of school

    and they just kind of muddle along them and kind of learn stuff as they pick it up in their career know if you want to be the best you invest in yourself you train as though you were going to be the best.

    And again, you’re going to surpass 99% of people who are not willing to make that investment so great question. Chris invest in yourself. People process platform and that’s what you need to do to be successful. Digital Marketer this year and for every of your career going forward. Thanks for watching. Please subscribe to the newsletter and to the YouTube channel. I’ll talk to you soon.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Can Marketing Help Salespeople?

    You Ask, I Answer_ How Can Marketing Help Salespeople_In today’s show, Sandie asks,

    “How can marketing and marketers help salespeople be more effective? What can marketing do to help sales (the department)?”

    Marketers and sales professionals should be – need to be – aligned in common objectives. To do this, marketers provide help in three ways:

    • Analytics: visibility into what’s working
    • Data Integration: helpful intelligence on every sales prospect
    • Enablement: create content that helps sales reach out frequently and provide real value

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    In today’s you ask I answer Sandy asks, How can marketers help salespeople do more be more be more effective.

    So three things. First analytics marketers can provide analytics to salespeople provide data to sales people that help them understand what the prospects are really interested in what’s working to drive leads, so it particularly in a b2b organization or any organization with a complex sale because remember, there is no such thing as b2b or b2c. There’s only simple or complex sales simple sales transactional sales right so you have a pack of gum. That’s a very simple transactional sale you there’s there’s not a lot of prospect nourishment in the world, compared to buying a house or a college education or a jet plane or car or SAS software so.

    First complex sales industries sales professionals want to know what’s working, where are our leads coming from the old Glengarry Glen Ross the leads a week living would say

    so what’s driving leads what’s driving audience attention what’s driving conversion from a lead to an opportunity and from an opportunity to sail the attribution analysis that you do has to help a salesperson understand. Oh, I totally get now that webinars are actually an important part of what we do, or I totally get that video is an important part of getting

    a lead to become an opportunity, they’ve seen our videos they go, Oh, I really want to buy a house from these folks. I’m going to go ahead and and I trust them their, their information their videos has been good. So analytics is the first part second part is integration data integration

    sales people.

    Want to understand what a prospect is actually interested in and the path that they got to becoming a lead or an opportunity and this is where a lot of systems, particularly the integration of web analytics marketing and marketing automation and CRM software often falls down when the system is are not connected properly or well

    you don’t get the information from point A to point B. And so when a salesperson sees a new lead coming, they’re reading on their phone or whatever. Go. Well, what does this person, not even one or or how do I know what’s on this person’s mind

    ideally if you read in your CRM software hot this person visited the about page. The team page and they spent the most time on product X’s page when I go to reach out to the person and say hey to getting in touch you filled out a form looks like you’re interested in product x, is there any questions I can answer for you on product x and that will help the sales professional be much more.

    in tune and enable to build rapport and build relationships faster. One of the key things that sales professionals have to do at least good ones is build that rapport with a prospect as quickly as possible to build that trust as quickly as possible and the more information that marketing can provide to a salesperson about how a prospect behave, the faster they can build that rapport. So that’s number two data integration. Third is sales enablement so you know when you’ve got a a salesperson who’s kind of starving for content when they send out emails that just say, hey, just touching base, seeing how things are going right there’s no real value there and we’re all smart working professionals, we know what the sales professionals trying to do. They’re trying to remind us that they exist and that we should consider buying from them but a quick hey how you doing

    is pretty transparent it’s it’s pretty obvious what’s going on there.

    The more that we provide sales with content with stuff that’s an actual value, the easier it is for them to reach out, they can in their email, they can say, Hey, I was thinking of you and I have our company just published this great piece on how to

    how to improve your gas mileage in your car by two miles per gallon every day of the week, which by the way is inflate the tires to the maximum is safe limit of the tires, not the recommended limit the recommended limits to make the car feel like a smoother ride but not fuel efficient

    and so by creating content for sales purposes marketers can help salespeople have those conversations and much more easily and and and give value with every interaction. If I’m reading an email and there’s something to legitimately have value and used to me as the customer potential customer. All right. You know, I’m going to read this person’s emails I know they’re selling I know they want me to call them back. But that was actually useful. That was actually helpful.

    This piece of content. So if we provide salespeople stuff that gives them a reason to reach out that gives them a reason to to make the call, or to send the email or to hang them on social we will help them significantly. Now here’s the catch

    the content has to be exclusively for the value of the prospects. It cannot be sales material in the sense of like, Hey, here’s another product data sheet nobody wants that nobody enjoys that not nobody I’m sure there’s someone somewhere rule 34 at all. But for the most part, nobody wants that. So what we need to create as marketers is content is exclusively for the value of the audience

    Marcus Sheridan wrote a great book called they ask you answer which is where you ask I answer came from because it is all about providing value to the audience of we can provide value to the audience through answers to questions and things that will be of help the definition of thought leadership that I used to a lot of people talk about let’s make some thought leadership.

    content is our thinking as marketers stuff we create helps you the customer lead thought leadership I thinking helps you lead. So if we can create stuff that is a value that helps you make better decisions

    you will implicitly understand we have an expertise in that area, but also we will give our sales folks a reason to reach out and say, hey, we’ve got this new thing thought it might be useful to you. Please check it out. So those are the three areas that marketing can do can use to help sales analytics first providing good insights as to as to what’s working data integration to add it so giving sales professionals at the individual level the opportunity to understand why this person is in their, their CRM and then sales enablement as the third party creating content for sales purposes that is exclusively for the value of the audience that so that they almost depending on how good your content is they may actually want sales people.

    Reach out to them because the content is so good, that’s the that’s the gold standard, the high water mark that you’re going for. As always, please send your questions to the US guy answer link in the show notes. If you have questions that you want me to answer. Subscribe to the email newsletter and to the YouTube channel and talk to you soon. Take care.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Solve Jay-Z’s 99 Marketing Problems

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Solve Jay-Z’s 99 Marketing Problems

    Al asked,

    “I’ve got the Jay-Z problem – I’ve got 99 marketing problems. Where do I start?”

    Great question – this is a four-part answer:

    • Categorization: put all the problems into one of four buckets
      • People
      • Process
      • Platform
      • Participation
    • Prioritization: Use the enhanced Eisenhower Matrix to assign priorities
      • Urgent
      • Important
      • Easy
    • Analysis: Assign metrics and data to problems where possible
    • No data? Fix from the bottom up or align to known best practices

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    In today’s you ask I answer. I’ll asks the Jay Z problem I got 99 problems where do I start so prioritizing what to fix in marketing when it seems like everything is broken. As I know you got the literal 99 problems weird you start. So there’s a couple of places to start that I really important. The first thing is auditing your marketing and knowing where and what those problems are and these are the three piece. Actually, the for technical I think the most important which is people do you have people problems human bodies human part of the people who do the work. Is that a problem. Second process. Do you have broken processes internally, the ways you do things do have processes you have governance. Do you have everything documented about how you do what you do because if you don’t have processes.

    documented. You can’t refine that you can’t improve them. It’s like a recipe if you if you bake the cake brand new every single time you can’t go back and tune up the recipe, you just kind of making it up and big key 100 times you get 100 different cakes, which is not ideal. The third is platform. So this is technology and infrastructure, the stuff that makes marketing gold, especially in the modern world today so CRM marketing automation website all the bits and pieces laying around. And the fourth which is not in the original framework people process and technology from the 70s and Gartner later renamed it to people process platform and 2011, but the fourth that is really important. It’s participation. Do you have buy in from the participants, whether that means people who are the workers people who had the managers people who are the executives and the executive sponsors and by and do you have that if

    when you go through you audit these things you categorize all of your problems.

    What are the problems that you have people have a process problems. What are the platform problems. What are the participation in buying problems that you have. So that’s the first way you develop the catalog, then you go to the next step which categorization in terms of the problems I had like the Eisenhower matrix which is what’s urgent what’s important and the Eisenhower matrix. Typically, the two by two matrix that has that there’s a third dimension which I think is important for when you’ve got a lot of problems and that is what’s easy. What are the what are the things that you can do that are relatively painless to to get done. So if you have 99 problems but seven of the problems you can fix in five minutes or less. Make note of that and catalog that and and both should be on list of things you should be able to knock down because when there’s a whole bunch wrong. A lot of quick wins in the beginning can increase participation for the harder stuff but also they may be hidden dependencies.

    The scenes that if you can knock out those those simple problems really quickly. You may see a sea change with the harder problems. So those the first two things you categorize then you prioritize based on the Eisenhower matrix urgent important easy

    in the past when I’ve done that I’ve actually put together a spreadsheet made the all the problems in the list

    tagged them you know people process platform and then urgent important easiest three columns and each one one to 10 is as important as the 10 is as important is that a 10 or one is it easy and so on so forth and you can literally just sum up urgent important easy calculator, figure out

    the problems.

    The third is start assigning data to the problems and this is again going sort of up the analytics ladder going up the marketing operations fumble

    from the business impact from that dollar amount at the bottom line closed one.

    Deal, whatever that is. It could be selling a pack of gum to your customer when they’re at the big box retail story. It could be selling them a gulf stream airplane or a multimillion dollar AARP system. It doesn’t matter what it is, but you have the marketing operations fellow sales opportunities leads prospects visitors audience, more or less, your business. We have slightly different stages and that’s fine score the data up the ladder and that will help you clarify in more detail,

    where all the problems are broken. Unless Unless you’re all of your data is broken and you’re all of your measurement is broken. If that’s the case, if, if you are in the worst case in our everything’s broken. You got 99 problems and none of the day. Do you have is reliable. Then there’s two ways to start making those repairs. The first is to fix in the bottom of the funnel. First, you know, so you’ve categorized all the problems you’ve done urgent important easy and then the cluster of problems that sits at the bottom.

    Follow start working on those first because you’re going to see the soon as business impact from fixing those

    or if you have organizational problems with people and process where you can’t even make changes the bottom. The fumble the organizations. So silos that sales won’t even let you see was in the CRM, then you fix according to best practices. According to things that you are held accountable for. So

    if, for example, if someone says well marketing is just responsible for for leads you all you do is crank out leads you don’t don’t worry about anything else. Okay, cool. That’s the bottom of the marketing funnel then and start fixing from the bottom up in terms of operationally fixing according to those the known best practices, best practices don’t mean if the best way to do it. They essentially Minimum Viable competence, if you will. So fixing that way so that’s that’s how you tackle your 99 problems the JC marketing problem.

    audit prioritize analyze and then if all else fails, start from the bottom up and and start repairing in that way.

    The hardest part is going to be the prioritization because everything is going to seem urgent everything’s going to seem important and nothing’s gonna seem easy and so I would encourage you if even if when you do the scoring

    for some people it’s really difficult for them to to score so you could even make a categorical say easy hard just pick one. Is it easier as hard

    and that can help with with that categorization that that prioritization.

    The other thing is understanding importance when you do the categorization the prioritization

    if everything seems important to everyone because everyone isn’t sure what to do.

    Go back to the analytics slack or go back to the the.

    Marketing operations funneled from the from the bottom up and figure out okay if if we can’t agree on what’s important. Let’s agree on how close to the bottom of funnel. It is so if someone’s like, No, no, no. Social media is the most important thing we need more awareness

    that’s important to that person. We don’t discredit that because that may be there only only function or the only function that they can show actual results for but we can say that’s not near the bottom of funnel right awareness is the top of the funnel

    and

    keep doing what you’re doing. But we need your help, we need everyone’s help down here to fix the, you know, getting leads to want to talk to a salesperson or getting leads to read the sales enablement collateral. So that’s the other way to fix the important stuff and the is everything will seem original all the time. So there’s there’s no fixing that

    but that’s how you assign them importance. So a great question. It is a difficult question.

    The answers are more difficult because everyone’s going to feel like their stuff is most important. So this is how you start going through and scoring it as always thank you for watching please subscribe to the YouTube channel, please subscribe to the newsletter and a reminder that my company Trust Insights will come in and help you do this if you need an objective third party to talk to you about this kind of help you categorize and things will come and help you do that. And then you know once everything’s working we can do all the cool data stuff too. Thanks for watching. I’ll talk to you soon.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Set a Data-Driven Marketing Budget

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Set a Data-Driven Marketing Budget

    Sandie asks,

    “In a performance-driven marketing organization, how do I set a marketing budget?”

    Great question with a lot of nuance, but some very straightforward answers. As we did in a previous episode on understanding how to prove marketing’s bottom-line impact, we re-use the same methodology with customer acquisition cost to understand marketing’s bottom-line costs, then spread those costs throughout the marketing operations funnel.

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Set a Data-Driven Marketing Budget

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    In today’s you ask I answer Sandy asks in a performance driven marketing strategy. How do I set a budget. Really good question. So in a previous episode of us can. So we talked about valuing marketing what’s proving the value of marketing and that uses the customer lifetime value of the customer value and then it is distributed up the marketing operations fumbles. So if one customer want to close sales worth 1,000 and it takes you 10 opportunities to get one customer. Well then, obviously, each opportunity is worth100 and so on and so forth up the up the ladder. Well, you do the exact same procedure for customer acquisition cost. What does it cost to acquire a customer for costs a customer you’ve cost you 5,

    to acquire a customer you march backup that same ladder. So let’s get to the middle layer we know one sale to actually got an opportunity to take 100 prospects. So hundred prospects are worth and our model where we say it was100 right.

    If that’s the case, and we say to acquire a customer cost us 5,

    which is still very good our why. By the way, then a prospect is gonna cost us50.

    You now know how much budget you need because you have to take that customer acquisition cost for one customer to take cost you 5,000 to acquire one customer

    huge cost you50 to acquire those hundred prospects.

    If you have clarity on what it costs for each prospect then and and each opportunity and each sale in your marketing operations funnel, then the only question is when it comes to setting a budget. How much of the goal. Do you want. So if you know every prospect costs 50 bucks and every customer cost 5,000 to acquire and management or the board or the stock market or whoever says, Hey, I want to see you when 10 customers this year. Well now you know exactly how much it’s going to cost you, it’s gonna cost you500,

    right because I know 550 thousand dollars because that’s what it’s going to cost to acquire customers and so you set your budget that way and you spread the cost up the chain and you know what to ask for. If

    you run into. I think we’ll probably the only area we’re going to run into serious problems is if

    you have someone say I want you to win more customers but not spend any more money, you can’t really do that if you know every customer cost you 5,000 to require you can’t get one customer5,000 and get the second customer for zero does it just does not work like that. You cannot go to the store, except for no buy one get one of resale. But there is no such thing in in the actual sales, marketing process. So that’s the only place where you would run into

    reality disconnects and

    those come in a couple of insidious forms one of it’s rare that someone’s going to make the absolutely ludicrous demand that you know you only get customers for free

    if you are getting that request probably time to brush up your LinkedIn profile because whoever’s managing he was not that sensible. But what I have seen in personally experienced in the past is someone saying here’s your budget. We’re going to reduce it 5% and by the way we want 5% more performance. Surely you can get a little more efficiency somewhere. Well, maybe, maybe not.

    If the customer acquisition cost goes up. Overall, then you’re not going to be able to reduce the budget 5% and get 5% more results

    instead if you reduce the budget

    fewer dollars you will be able to buy 5% fewer things right. It’s just, again, it’s like going to the store. If I go to the store or 100 today and95 tomorrow. The story is not going to let me walk out with 100 worth of stuff. The story is probably going to insist I pay100 for 100 worth of stuff, unless for some reason they’re running a sale but reality doesn’t run sales.

    So that’s the answer, but how to set a budget in the same way that you do customer value up the marketing operations ladder you do customer cost of customer acquisition costs up the the ladder of marketing operations and then each stage if you are responsible for prospects. You know what the cost per prospect is based on the conversion rate between each stage if you’re responsible for website traffic you have a you can you could figure out what the cost per visitor is

    the other thing I think is worth

    detail it and this is not something that goes into budget settings so much as improving efficiency improvement operations is determining where the least well performing stages. So just as we did with customer value if

    from website traffic to

    prospect to prospect to lead to lead opportunity opportunity to closed new customer if everything is 10% is for one stage which is 1%. You’re going to be better off trying to figure out what’s going wrong in that stage, then you will be trying to double your results anywhere else because you will get so much more leverage out of fixing things that are obviously not working. So in terms of making a budget more efficient. If you’ve got severe inefficiencies meaning, you know, a 10 x difference between one stage and the next you might be able to find find some way to close that gap, but rarely

    Is it something you can rely on for the purposes of budgeting for the purposes of budgeting, whatever it costs for eight eight to acquire customer today it’s probably gonna cost more tomorrow because prices rarely ever go down

    and so that’s how you determine the budget so really good questions. Andy, there’s some nuances to it about efficiency, but for the most part, whatever it costs you to buy one thing

    budget to buy budget that as a unit price and determine how many of those things your leadership wants to buy and asked for that budget and feel free to use the examples. If you are talking to stakeholders or board members are executives in your company and they’re they’re really confused why you’re pushing back on a budget reduction, but but the same or better results. Feel free to share this video or any of the examples in it sound like yeah, you can’t go go to the store with95 and and ask for them to give you $100 worth of stuff they will arrest you. It’s called stealing.

    And in this case, the the vendor is reality and reality never almost never offer sales. So thanks for watching as always please subscribe to the newsletter the YouTube channel and if you have questions or you want someone to do is budgeting worksheet for you or walk you through the process Trust Insights, the company I worked for does this sort of consultants are happy to help. If you just don’t want to do it yourself, but this is how you do it yourself. So thanks for watching I’ll talk to you soon.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Choose a Digital Channel Strategy

    You Ask, I Answer_ Digital Channel Strategy

    Pradeep asks,

    Does every brand have to have a presence on all the Digital Platforms, or does it have the liberty to choose a few? Example, should we invest in Social Media, Search Engine Marketing, Search Optimization, Video Marketing etc. at the same time?

    Two answers to this question:

    • How does our audience consume content? That’s where we should focus first.
    • What capabilities and limitations do we have? That governs how much we make.

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    In today’s you ask I answer it asks, Does every brand have to have a presence on all the digital platforms or do you have the liberty to choose a few should you invest in social media search engine marketing search optimizations Video Marketing Podcast. At the same time, or differently. Well, that’s a really good question and the answer is not whether you should do it. But whether it makes sense. So two things are important to considerations. Number one, first and foremost, where’s your audience. Right. What does your audience want where do they consume content if your audience is a very heavily commuting audience and they go to the gym, a lot and they have multiples smart speakers in their home then guess what a podcast is probably the right choice

    if your audience has is a smartphone first audience, which is increasing the case everywhere, but certainly for people who are under the age of 70 smartphone is first and foremost as a device for them. Then you want to focus on mobile first platforms for good or ill Facebook is an incredible mobile first platform and 90 something percent of their audience comes from mobility.

    If people search for your product and know you by name or know your audit your industry by name if if searches how people first discover your company’s products and services. Guess what search engine marketing and SEO make a lot of sense. If you rely primarily on word of mouth and social media makes a lot of sense. So your first question is where’s the audience because if you’re not serving the audience, where they are, you’re going to lose. Second, what do you have capability to do so. Not everybody is willing to invest the time the effort to the money in smart devices and microphones and all this cool technology. So that may limit your ability to produce things like video or it may limit your ability to produce things like high quality audio

    if you don’t have the time every day or frequently to invest in making great content. Then something like a high frequency content marketing campaign or camping a content marketing strategy may not make a lot of sense. You might be better off doing the highly curated or highly infrequent but you know gold only content strategy where you really something maybe once every three months,

    but when you do. It’s unbelievable it. It keeps your your brand and your name top of funnel and top of mind for months at a time really good example of this, the company Edison research, my friend Tom Webster does this, he doesn’t blog very often and his company doesn’t publish new content. Very often, but when they do you always pay attention to a Pew Research same way they don’t publish, you know, just random direct every single day they publish in relatively infrequently in marketing terms but everything they have published a solid gold so you always share it and OSH Kaushik another example of that. So those the two considerations. Where’s the audience and then do you have the capability to meet the audience, where they are

    my advice in this realm is to create content at a pace that you can sustain so if you cannot make content every day, don’t dry. If you simply don’t have the time and the resources. Don’t try because do it badly is worse than not doing it at all. If you create content that people just don’t want to pay attention to. It’s very hard to get that attention back once you make that first impression. That’s it.

    People have so many other choices today for where they get their content that they do not need to put up with mediocre content they don’t have to put up with good content because at the touch of a button or tap of a phone, the best stuff for them in that moment is available.

    If you want to make content relatively at scale. The best place to do that is with video because you can optimize video better so you can rip the audio out and becomes a podcast, you can rip the text from the audio and it becomes a blog post and so on so forth. You can do that at a much greater efficiency than trying to make individual pieces of content for every channel

    if you’re not comfortable being on video screen something if you’re not comfortable even doing that then record audio and because you can at least still send that out for transcription. I’ve been playing with a new service called otter AI as far as I can tell, waltz still in beta it’s free it’s worth trying out because it allows you to submit your audio and transcribe it and get a somewhat readable transcription back and if you are making content professionally full time for marketing purposes and you can spend some time cleaning up the transcription, but you don’t have to do it from scratch, which is kind of nice. So

    that’s the answer be where the audience’s Do what you can with what you are capable of doing. And if you can’t do it for some reason, but it’s still a strategic priority. You will have to hire you’ll have to invest, you’ll have to contract with an agency, you’ll have to partner, but if you know that your audience always gets its best information from YouTube, which is the second largest search engine on the planet. If you know that to be a case

    and you want that to be performing channel you’ll have to invest it so thanks for the question. Buddy, as always, please subscribe to the newsletter and to the YouTube channel, which is where all the videos are stored. Even though I publish them all over the place they live on youtube so you can find them more easily just rearranged my channel. Last night we can find stuff a little more easily now. Thank you for watching. I’ll talk to you soon.


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