Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Strategy

Data quality and its impact on marketing analytics
When it comes to data, there are three C’s, three key factors that can impact your data. I discussed these at length in Marketing Blue Belt, but I wanted to reiterate one here that I screwed up royally.

The 3 C’s of good data are chosen well (selection), compatible (format), and clean.

Recently, I was doing attribution analysis to find out what has worked for me in 2015 as part of my personal 2016 marketing planning. I looked at my benchmarks and saw that email was underperforming:

I thought I was a pretty good email marketer. Maybe not? I ran a custom report to see what was happening under the hood, and then the answer became clear as day:

I don’t post to social media on the weekends, yet Twitter has been one of my top referring sources on Sundays.

If you don’t get my weekly email newsletter, for the past couple of years, it’s looked like this:

Do you see the problem?

By re-using my tweets as they were, I have been re-using the social media campaign tags built into the shortened links. Social media – Twitter, specifically – is getting credit for email’s impact.

Above you can see the tags Buffer automatically adds to my tweets. When I reuse those bit.ly URLs in email, they keep their social media attribution.

This is the essence of insight from the MAISTER framework in Marketing Blue Belt. We have the data. We know what happened. We had to establish why. Now we know what to do to fix it.

Be careful as you do your marketing analysis of 2015 and planning for 2016! Understand your data. Don’t blindly assume that it’s correct and infallible. Mine certainly wasn’t – and I have only myself to blame.

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October 8, 2015
Marketing Plan Framework Template
What if you could put together a marketing plan, a strategy, and a budget rooted in reality that gave you the resources you need to succeed?

In my Marketing Planning Framework, we do exactly that. Step by step, we’ll look at the data you have, compare it to the model companies in your industry, and engineer a plan for the future that helps you catch up to your competitors in key marketing channels – then surpass them.

In less than an hour, you’ll walk through the construction of a data-driven customer journey and emerge with a plan in hand, the resources you’ll need to succeed, and a clear budget ask to achieve the goals you’ve been given.

When you download this Marketing Planning Framework, you receive:
- A video screencast in HD MP4 format, enhanced to show clicks and keystrokes in applications for true step-by-step instructions
- Sample data files you can practice with if you’re not ready to use your own data
- The actual planning framework Excel spreadsheet so you can slot in your own numbers for an out-of-the-box strategic plan by marketing channel
- A short PDF of key images and slide material
Purchase your copy now, and get what you need to succeed in your 2016 marketing planning!

Frequently Asked Questions

Do you need Google Analytics?

You need access to a Google Analytics account for the benchmarking data. It doesn’t have to be what your company/office uses; you can use your own personal account. For the customer paths to conversion, many other analytics packages have similar features. For example, Omniture SiteCatalyst calls them customer funnels.

Do you need Microsoft Excel?

No. You can use any spreadsheet software that can read an XLSX file, including Apple Numbers, Google Sheets, Open Office, etc.

Is there a trial or demo?

No. It’s a video and workbook, plus supporting materials. It’s not software.

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September 29, 2015
How to build your customer journey, part 3
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We’ve now established what the customer journey is not, and what your customer journey currently looks like. Now what?

Let’s begin where we left off in the last post. We’ve established our specific customer journey and noted where our journey differs from the generic journey:

In the example above, we see that direct counts much more up front in my website’s customer journey than it does in the generic model. The generic model, however, hints at what else we may want to be trying. In the direct model, there are channels I’m not currently using, such as generic paid search, display advertising, and branded paid search. These channels might be good opportunities for me to explore.

The other thing the generic model doesn’t talk about is how well each channel should perform and what percentage of the marketing mix I might want it to occupy. Fortunately, Google Analytics’ benchmarking feature gives us answers to these questions. You’ll find Benchmarking in the Audience menu in your Google Analytics account; depending on your setup, you may need to enable it. For a detailed walkthrough of the basics of benchmarking, see this post first.

Above, we see from my benchmark against other marketing sites of similar size that social media and organic search are performing well already. I’m far above the baseline for the marketing space. What we also see is that other channels aren’t doing quite as well. Based on the customer journey we’ve mapped out above, I need to be doing a better job with email, and as my custom customer journey above shows, I’m not doing anything with paid search.

Now, not only do I have a customer journey mapped out, I know which parts of my customer journey are working well and which parts need help. I can work on improving email and adding paid search and display advertising to the mix if I want to make the journey as comprehensive as possible.

The benchmark also tells me at what levels I’d need to invest. Look above at line 7, paid search. Sites comparable to mine get almost 10,000 visitors from paid search, where I get 10 (likely accidental/bad data, since I’m not running any paid ads). If I needed to get 10,000 visitors in a month, that’s roughly 333 a day. Based on this, I could go to Google’s AdWords keyword planner and see what 333 clicks a day would cost me:

To reach the levels of my peer competitors, I would need to invest $300 a day, or$ 9,000 a month.

You can perform the same assessment for any channel in which you have performance data. For example, I know what efforts are needed to achieve the social media numbers in the benchmark above. If I want referral traffic to match those numbers, it’s a reasonable starting point to experiment with investing the same amount of time and effort as I do in social.

In another example, I know what time and effort I currently put into email, and I see the results above. I’m at half of what my competitors are doing. Thus, it’s a relatively small leap of logic to test doubling my effort to see if I can double the results and get on par with the industry averages for peer companies.

With these tools, I can now make the necessary changes to my customer journey to improve it, to reach customers where they are, in the right order. My marketing effectiveness should substantially improve if I fit the journey to the way customers actually behave and adapt quickly when I’m out of alignment.

In the next post, we’ll talk about taking your customer journey to the next level, quite literally.

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September 23, 2015
How to capture your 15 minutes of fame
“In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes.” – Andy Warhol, 1968

These days, your 15 minutes of fame are more likely than ever thanks to social media and the Internet. In just hours, you can go from obscurity to the front page of every news site, from unknown to speaking with national government leaders.

However, as Warhol pointed out, attention is fleeting. No one keeps the spotlight forever. If your company is fortunate enough (or has a good enough PR agency) to get the spotlight, how do you make the most of it?

Here are the basic steps for how to capture your 15 minutes of fame:

Step 1: Prepare. Fame is like a tidal wave. You might or might not see it coming, and unless it’s massive, you don’t get a sense of how powerful it is until the wave breaks. Prepare in advance, the same way a surfer paddles out in advance to catch the wave. What should you prepare?
- An email marketing system. You’ll need a way to capture email addresses.
- Analytics. Best in class tools like Google Analytics let you segment your visitors. Be sure to define goals and goal values!
- Remarketing. Remarketing is a powerful advertising system, but only if it’s deployed in advance.
Example: in Twitter’s Ad Manager, you can set up a custom web-based audience tracker. I’d recommend having a handful of remarketing tags pre-made, with the tracking tags stored in Evernote or dormant in your CMS.

That way, if something starts to happen, all you need to do is fish out the tag and deploy it immediately.

Step 2: Tag. The moment you see the wave headed your way, get your tags live, turn on your systems, create segmentations in Google Analytics, and make sure your audiences are being identified by your systems. It’s important to have real-time analytics turned on so you can validate that things are working as intended:

Step 3: Capture. When you’ve got the spotlight, be proactive (nicely) about asking people to take action. Ask them to subscribe, ask them to follow you, ask them to visit your website/blog. Get them into the places where conversions are trackable, where audiences are taggable. Don’t assume people will automatically do what you want them to do.

Step 4: Remarket. No wave lasts forever. In fact, few waves last for more than a split second. When the attention fades, when the spotlight moves on, reach out to everyone you’ve tagged, tracked, and captured.

As soon as the spotlight moves on, turn on your remarketing ads and remind people why they visited you in the first place. Send them an email with tangible next steps they can take, and what’s next for you. You got the spotlight for a reason; extend that reason with what’s next and why people should continue to remain interested in you.

Whether or not you ever recapture the spotlight, if you prepare and execute well, you can make your 15 minutes of fame deliver lasting impact to your business.

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September 17, 2015
Why do marketing strategies fail?
Why do marketing strategies fail?
- Is it because we don’t have the right tools? Perhaps.
- Do we not have the right people? Maybe.
- Do we have a bad strategy? This is most likely.
What is a failing marketing strategy? Recall the definition of strategy that we put forth in Marketing Blue Belt:

Strategy, succinctly put, is goals x methods, limited by time and resources/environment.

I’ve spoken to too many marketers recently who have said, “well, we’re not really sure what our goals are” or “we don’t know what kind of budget we have to work with” or “we’re not sure what tools we should be using”. These are all statements indicating your strategy is headed for failure.
- If you have no goals, you have no strategy.
- If you have no tools or methods, you have no strategy.
Even more important are mismatches. When I was writing Marketing Blue Belt, Bryce Moore pointed out that goals and methods are multiplicative. When you multiply a positive by a negative, it becomes a negative. Thus:
- Right goals but wrong methods? Your strategy will still fail.
- Wrong goals but right methods? Your strategy will still fail.
Finally, the limits on the equation of time and resources can make even the right combination of goals and methods fail to be effective.
- If you have no resources, any strategy you devise will not be something you can execute.
- If you have no time, no strategy will have time to achieve its goals.
As you review the past and plan for the future in your marketing, ask yourself these tough questions to determine where your marketing strategy fell down:
- Did I have the right goals?
- Did I have the right methods?
- Did I have enough resources to execute?
- Did I have enough time to execute?
This simple diagnostic test will tell you what went wrong – and how to fix it.

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September 2, 2015
Beware of marketing assumptions
I’ve had the pleasure and privilege of speaking at the Hawai‘i Tourism Association’s annual conference in Honolulu, a gorgeous city. I’d not been to Honolulu before, so it was fascinating to walk around a city in which Japanese is more or less the de facto second language. Signs, menus, directions – all have Japanese versions next to their English versions. It’s been great to practice my very rusty Japanese skills.

Here’s the interesting assumption people make about me. Shopkeepers, store owners, and other tourists assume I speak Japanese. It’s reminiscent of when I went to Seoul, South Korea and struggled to get around because I don’t speak Korean, but I look the part. Shopkeepers would ask me questions and I’d have to reply, “I’m sorry, I’m American. I don’t speak Korean”. Boy, did that confuse people.

I actually took to carrying that around as a graphic on my iPhone as I walked around Seoul.

The shopkeepers in Honolulu make an assumption based on how I appear and greet me in Japanese. Because everyone’s wonderfully friendly, we simply switch over to American English once I exhaust my very meager Japanese skills. I’m fairly certain that it’s apparent in my Japanese accent as well that it’s not even close to my native language. (I once had a Japanese teacher in college who said my Americanization of Japanese sounds made me sound like an inakamono, a country bumpkin)

However, this begets a marketing problem in general: when you make assumptions before the customer gives you data, you risk miscategorizing your customer. Just because you get referral traffic from a social network does not mean the customer heard about you solely from the social network. Just because someone subscribes to your email newsletter does not mean they want to buy something from you. We as marketers have come to rely on passive data, on machine-provided data, leaping to conclusions that may be incorrect.

This becomes even more troublesome in the algorithm-driven world we live in. As machines take on more and more of the responsibility for pattern matching, they build assumptions of their own (or are pre-programmed with our assumptions). For the most part, customers will not tell you that your algorithms are wrong. They will simply see mis-targeted marketing and vanish silently to a competitor.

In your marketing technology, in your marketing automation, do your best to let your customers give information first. Listen. Ask. By not assuming, you may be able to avoid potentially embarrassing mistakes and serve their needs better and faster.

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August 27, 2015
3 Ways to Maximize Conference and Event Marketing
One of the real world marketing questions I’m asked often is whether events and conferences matter, from a marketing point of view. Do they help to generate business? The answer is a qualified yes – as long as you do it right.

First, if you don’t know why you’re going, don’t go. “Because our competitors are there” isn’t a great reason. Ask if your audience is at the show. The easiest way to establish this? Look at the previous year’s hashtag on social media and who used it, then randomly sample the Twitter biographies of people who used the hashtag. If their names and titles are your audience, then you have a reason to attend the show.

Events are excellent for introducing your company to the target audience, but you have to provide ways for people to have those introductions.

To make the most of the show, you need three key elements. The first is the spotlight. Obtain this however you can, if you are committed to attending the event. This may mean earning a speaking slot or paying for it. This may mean a significant sponsorship that ensures show organizers will name drop you repeatedly throughout the event.

The second element is the anchor. This is the exhibitor booth. At some shows, particularly larger ones, sponsorship and exhibiting are separate animals. You need an anchor at the show, a physical location you can use as a base of operations, a rally point, and a focus. When you have speakers on stage, it’s easiest for them to say, “If you have questions after this session, come meet me at Booth 176” rather than have them loiter around, especially if the show has a packed schedule.

The third element is the foot soldiers, the street team, the ground staff you have at a show. These are the folks who move around the show floor, providing intelligence, gathering competitors’ collateral and speaking to competitor sales personnel. Your army can help staff the booth in a pinch, but also goes out and networks with attendees. For those connections that are relevant and valuable, foot soldiers can direct people back to the booth or to a speaker’s session. Foot soldiers also use social media effectively during the show, sharing other speakers’ content but heavily promoting your own. Given how many conferences feature social media leaderboards for most retweeted speakers, content, and people, your foot soldiers can play a key part in being seen.

With these three elements in force, you can maximize your appearance at a trade show. People will remember you, connect with you, and quite possibly do business with you. The very best executions of this plan make you so prominent, you’re on equal or greater footing than the show itself.

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August 26, 2015
Developing your second in command
One of the most important tasks you will ever face as a manager in marketing (or manager of anything) is developing your second-in-command. With a strong second-in-command, you can do things like travel to speak at events, do advanced research and development, focus only on your top priorities for maximum productivity, or even go on vacation.

Without a strong second-in-command, you will forever be in the weeds, keeping the trains on the rails, and frustrated at your lack of personal professional growth. You’ll also never go on vacation for more than a day.

Here’s a simple test to determine whether your second-in-command is strong enough. Suppose you got a notice that you just won an all-expenses-paid two-week dream vacation to the place you’ve always wanted to go – but you have to leave tomorrow. Could you go? Is your marketing team structure set up well enough that your second-in-command could simply pick up and run with the ball for a couple of weeks? If the answer is no, then you need to invest in your second-in-command.

How do you invest in your second-in-command? Developing them requires both knowledge and practical application. Knowledge should come from training and writing down everything (or in this day and age, recording training videos). I do this for my team at SHIFT Communications; I’ve made an entire training library of step-by-step videos with screen casting software.

Practical application only comes from actually doing the work – and delegating every possible task to your second-in-command. This doesn’t have to be an immediate, all-or-nothing proposition. When Buddhist monks on Mt. Hiei prepare for some of their most grueling trials (such as 9 consecutive days without food, water, or sleep), they work up to the experience. When runners prepare for a marathon, they don’t knock out 26.2 miles on the first day. Preparing your second-in-command requires a similar mindset for preparation. Give them a little more every day. Let them run small programs and ladder up to bigger and bigger programs and campaigns.

Measure your progress by asking yourself the dream vacation question repeatedly. Check yourself to see how much closer you are to a “yes” every week, until you reach a point where you feel yes, your second-in-command could keep the trains running for a couple of weeks without you.

With luck, not only will your second-in-command be ready, you’ll also get that dream vacation.

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August 18, 2015
Where do unconferences fit in the conference ecosystem?
Chris Brogan recently asked, after attending PodCamp Pittsburgh, whether it makes sense for unconferences to bundle together with similar events.

The answer to this question depends on goals and strategy. Traditional conferences have very different business imperatives than unconferences like PodCamp. PodCamp is more of a movement, a decentralized idea that isn’t a sustainable business model in its current form – and shouldn’t be. Its goals are reach and engagement, not to operate as a full business. Other than breaking even, unconferences need to do little more in the way of business. Experience has shown that attempting to turn unconferences into commercial enterprises have largely been failures.

A traditional conference has business imperatives like profitability, lead generation, and sales. Because it’s more of a traditional business, its strategy tends to be much more zero-sum. To operate in a collaborative way requires that co-collaborators get significant mutual benefit to make it worth their while, and ideally be in different industries. Two marketing conferences bundled together tend to cannibalize from each other, and each jockeys for position and dominance over the other. This has happened in the Boston conference market in the fall, with numerous different events attempting to take share of voice from each other, and the end result is usually that no one benefits.

PodCamp Europe, embedded inside of Jeff Pulver’s VON Conference, worked. While VON was a traditional conference, PodCamp had different goals and outcomes, and was largely non-competitive or additive to VON. In terms of collaborative conference models that work, this would be the suggested model going forward.

PodCamp Europe introduced new media professionals to the VON world, while not putting the burden of paying the VON ticket price to experience at least some of the content VON had to offer. Conversely, VON was able to experiment and leverage new formats and content as part of the overall conference experience, adding value to its attendees and providing content that might not have stood on its own, but was informative and forward-looking for VON attendees.

What would be ideal would be for a series of unconference events to bundle together with a commercial event as sort of an event village. The individual unconferences would provide tons of content and new ideas, while the commercial event would provide basic infrastructure. Well run, the synergy between the two groups could make for an exciting, dynamic mega-event.

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August 17, 2015
What airport breakfasts teach us about timing in marketing
All value is relative. I was traveling recently, from San Francisco back to Boston, and at San Francisco’s airport is a little coffee shop/breakfast stand. At the stand, I got an egg sandwich:

What’s funny is that 30 minutes prior to getting the sandwich, I was in Union Square, an area known for its magnificent selection of restaurants. The quality of sandwich I got at the airport pales in comparison to virtually anything in Union Square.

And yet… the quality of the sandwich is sublime compared to the food you get on an airplane these days. On some airlines, you’re lucky if you even get a tiny packet of pretzels. A hot sandwich would be an unthinkable luxury.

One food, one sandwich has three radically different values in three different contexts, even though the sandwich is unchanged. It’s still the same sandwich.

As marketers, it’s incumbent upon us to understand our products and services from a behavioral perspective. How are people using our product? Where and when do they use it? Most important, as seen above, what are their other choices in the context of our product’s purchase?

Union Square has wonderful restaurants, but at the time I was traveling – 4:30 AM – none of them were open. Thus, even though every restaurant in the area is technically competitive to the airport coffee shop, none of them were actual competitors. Fast forward 4 hours and everything in Union Square is a competitor to the airport because all the restaurants are open.

Think about how that changes something like SEO. SEO isn’t just location-sensitive, it’s time-sensitive. Google is even beginning to reflect this now in search details:

Optimizing your website for searches should include some awareness of how people purchase. If I were the airport coffee shop, I’d add a page to my website about breakfast when nothing else is open, because that’s what people are searching for at that time of day, and that’s when the airport coffee shop will win. It won’t beat a regular restaurant, but compared to what travelers are about to get on the plane, it’s luxury food.

Think about when you send email marketing messages. “Best time to send” is a ridiculous concept in aggregate. When and where are people reading your emails? What are the other alternative options for entertainment and/or education at that time? If people are reading your emails during their commute (hopefully not while driving) then you might be better off with a podcast.

How do you go about understanding when people consume your marketing messaging? Ask them! Flat out ask and see what they say, and then adapt accordingly.

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August 11, 2015

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