Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Strategy

Rear views, engine gauges, and marketing analytics
Imagine for a moment that you had a car without a rear window. Would it be harder to drive that car? Perhaps, depending on how cautious you are. Some drivers would be perfectly fine, the Mario Andrettis of the world. Other drivers would be nervous wrecks. How about a car with no engine temperature gauge? Would that be a problem? Perhaps – in the right conditions, you could seriously damage your car if you didn’t know what was going on.

That said, neither a rear view nor an engine temperature gauge are essential pieces to driving a car. The bare minimum you need are navigational controls, an engine that works, fuel to burn, wheels and the parts that connect the navigation to the wheels, and brakes. You don’t even technically need a windshield (though it certainly helps).

Once upon a time, this was all a car had to be.

Much like the car, many of the metrics and analytics we have access to as marketers are nonessential. For example, a Klout score is an indicator. It’s not without value entirely; much like a temperature gauge, it can tell you a little bit of information about your social popularity and reach. Having it is slightly better than not having it, but it’s not going to help the car get from point A to point B. Web analytics are much like the rear view – it’s often helpful to see where you’ve been and to see if something’s coming up behind you, but there’s nothing in past recorded data that is going to make navigating the road ahead necessarily any easier. Plus, if you spend all your time focused on the rear view, there’s a good chance you’ll drive into something because you didn’t see where the road was going.

Take a look at all of the marketing metrics and tools you have. Which ones are essential for seeing where you are going, for knowing what’s ahead, for getting you to point B from point A? Which ones are nice to have but not essential? Which ones contribute very little? When you’re faced with tight resources, from personnel to budget, prioritizing what you’ll measure is absolutely essential to keeping your sanity and delivering maximum impact.

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October 8, 2013
Basic vs. advanced in content marketing
I read an interesting article the other day that claimed basic content was boring content, and if you wanted to establish yourself as an authority, you needed to write much more advanced content to differentiate yourself. While in theory this makes a great deal of sense, in practice, it’s a recipe for a tiny but dedicated fan base. Why? There are two reasons for this.

First, most people still need the basics. Even if you’re an advanced practitioner, the basics are still the foundations on which you build. If your goal is not the elite 1% of practitioners who are truly advanced, then your content must prominently feature the basics as a way of on-ramping new audience members.

Second, most advanced techniques don’t translate well to simple how-to guides and posts. How-to guides are fantastic for things that are basics, when you’re trying to master the mechanics of how to do something. More advanced techniques typically aren’t about how to use any given tool, but when, where, and why to use a tool in a certain context.

Here’s an example. In the martial arts, there are basics, such as how to punch correctly or how to do an outward wrist-twist joint lock. One of the most advanced techniques in the martial art I practice is loosely translated as standing in the eye of the storm. It’s not a technique you can write down and hand to someone – it’s a mindset of being able to keep centered and focused in the middle of a fight so you can see what’s really going on without being blinded by fear, ego, or dozens of other mental distractions that obstruct the truth.

Here’s a more marketing-related example. A basic is measuring your website traffic from a variety of different sources, such as Direct, Referral, SEO, etc.

The advanced techniques aren’t more ways to measure. The advanced techniques are being able to look at a website’s traffic and understand why something happened so that you can either avoid it or do it again.

How do you teach that in content marketing? You can’t, not really. You can give examples, but every example of advanced technique has far more nuance in it than can be taught in a few blog posts. In the example above, I can illustrate what happened, but explaining why and how it can be done again would require an awful lot of time and text.

Should you do advanced techniques in your content marketing? Only if you’re truly an advanced practitioner and you’ve got a goal of appealing to other advanced practitioners. If otherwise, stick with the basics. They’ll serve you well.

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October 7, 2013
What Twitter’s IPO means for marketers
UPDATED: This post has been significantly updated and expanded over on the SHIFT blog. Go read it there.

As you likely know, Twitter recently filed for its initial public offering (IPO) with the Securities Exchange Commission, a major step in the process of becoming a publicly traded company. For many of its investors, this is the long-awaited payoff of billions of dollars invested in the company. But what does the act of becoming a publicly traded company mean for the many folks who use Twitter for marketing?

The major change that going public typically means is that things like profitability in the short-term become a pressing matter. Companies are required to file quarterly earnings reports, and those companies who don’t meet or exceed expectations typically are punished by investors. This tends to create a culture where monetization and reporting gains in earnings is essential and the primary strategic focus is meeting those expectations. While some publicly companies notably thumb their noses at Wall Street, most do not and work to hit their numbers.

As a result, when a company goes public, more resources and focus are put in its revenue-generating capabilities. If you think about what Twitter has to sell in order to make money, it’s got two really valuable things. Twitter has an audience, of course, and selling those eyeballs in the form of advertisements is one of the ways it already makes money. I would expect Twitter to make significant progress and changes to its advertising mechanisms to better hit earnings numbers. It’s also possible that Twitter could implement a mechanism similar to Facebook’s, in which maximum reach to your existing audience requires investment in addition to good content.

The second major valuable asset that Twitter has is data, lots and lots of data in the form of the Twitter stream. Television advertisers and content producers pay attention to it. Marketers pay attention to it. Companies license data from Twitter already. It’s conceivable that instead of just paying to license and access the entire stream, as a few companies do, paying to access portions of the stream could happen.

For marketers, plan to increase your existing spend on Twitter to achieve the same capabilities you have today, plus new paid capabilities as they appear. While individual users will not be charged (the audience is the product), access to that audience and the data they generate seems likely.

The major benefit that we’ll receive as marketers (and customers of the service) is that once a company becomes publicly traded, we are given insights into how it functions, how its core assets are performing, and operational information that affects investors’ ownership. We’ll gain much more insight into how many people are actually using Twitter, how many paying customers it has, and what their guidance is for how they’ll increase profitability. That in turn will help us guide our social media programs and strategies for maximum impact.

What do you think Twitter’s public offering will do to change the company?

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September 13, 2013
Why being incurious will destroy your marketing
I’ve had the opportunity to do an awful lot of surveying recently as part of my work at SHIFT. The surveying I’ve been doing has been initiated by me on behalf of clients and the data is used to inform various marketing campaigns. What I’ve found while doing this work is that because the research isn’t necessarily intended for public consumption, I’m much more curious about the answers. I don’t know what the answers are, and when I get the results back, more often than not I’m surprised by them, and they spur additional questions and additional needed research.

Contrast this with what surveying is used for frequently in content marketing: to prove a pre-ordained conclusion or to bolster a pre-written piece of content. There’s nothing wondrous about that process. You know what the conclusion will be, or you’re irritated that the research didn’t pave a neat path to your already-produced content – and you treat the data, the truth, as an error because it’s not supporting your work.

This is what my friend and mentor Tom Webster refers to as incurious, and there’s a reason why incurious is a cardinal sin, a profanity in the world of research. It actually took me a little while to understand what the implications of incurious meant.

Being incurious removes all of the wonder.
Being incurious removes all of the mystery.
Being incurious removes all chances of discovery.
Being incurious removes a lot of the fun of real research.

Why? Instead of having a series of “Wow!” moments when the data leads you in unexpected directions from real research, being incurious transforms what could be inspiration or innovation into the displeasure of error. You’re emotionally conditioning yourself to feel and believe that research tools and practices can only deliver grim satisfaction and relief or frustration. Can you think of a more devastating practice for your business, for your marketing, for your mind than to transmute inspiration into disappointment? Can you imagine a faster way to never innovate again?

Here’s the other thing I’ve noticed with the surveying I’m doing now versus the content marketing I’ve done in the past, before my current role. When the goal and the desired outcome is new answers, you become very careful with the questions you ask. When the desired outcome is a pre-ordained answer, you don’t especially care what the questions are as long as they create the answer you want. As a result, you intentionally shut out all possibility for discovery. Innovation isn’t even given a chance to show up at the party.

So please, take Tom’s advice and take my advice. Stop using research tools to generate pre-ordained outcomes for content marketing. You’re not only harming your marketing, but you’re destroying your own sense of wonder and discovery when you pick those tools up.

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September 6, 2013
Shake off the rust
Everyone’s had those periods where they take a break from a fitness routine or let a hobby fall by the wayside. As a result, the skills and capabilities that you had when you were regularly practicing begin to fade.

For fitness folks, cardiovascular endurance and maximum lung capacity can begin to diminish in as little as two weeks off, and within two months can be anywhere from half to completely gone for people who had picked up a fitness program.

When you survey pistol marksmen who fire weapons regularly, most say that you lose your maximum edge in about two weeks, and see significant declines in shooting accuracy and speed in 6-8 weeks.

Musicians cite similar benchmarks for performing well: two weeks off can diminish your edge, and in 6-8 weeks, your skills degrade enough that it takes serious, high intensity practice to regain it.

However, many of the experts cite that lower frequency practice can reduce the impacts of time on your skills and capabilities. Going to the range to fire a few hundred rounds can mitigate the skill losses you’d incur from not going at all. Going for shorter runs or long walks can help to increase the time it takes to lose cardiovascular capacity. Picking up an instrument and playing for even a few minutes a day can keep rust at bay longer.

Now think about all of your marketing skills. Inventory all of the skills you have, make a list of them.

Email marketing.
Social media marketing.
Content marketing.
Digital advertising.
Podcasting.
Video production.
Writing.
Blogging.
Media buying.

How many skills have you practiced with and grown proficient with over the years?

How many have you let rust? How many are so far gone that for you to pick them up again would almost be like starting over?

This is why having your own blog, your own newsletter, your own social media profiles, your own digital platforms are so vital for your long-term success as a marketer. Forget about personal brand and think about personal skills. What skills does your job currently not let you practice? Figure out how to practice them on your own time and on your own properties. If you can’t figure out how to use those skills for yourself, go volunteer somewhere that you can practice them so that they don’t rust. You don’t have to be working full-time on them all the time, but you need to shake off the rust and keep it off as a marketer if you want to retain your edge, particularly for skills you don’t use frequently.

You rest, you rust, as the saying goes – not just for athletics, but for everything.

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September 5, 2013
Inbound and outbound marketing: you need both at the right time
Here’s the dirty secret of inbound and outbound marketing: they complement each other. They’re both important. They each play a vital role in getting a product, a brand, or a company off the ground, and there’s a time and a place for both strategies in your marketing plan.

Here’s the promise of outbound: WIN AT YELLING. Buy ads, send press releases, reach out to reporters, fax till you drop, retweet influencers, blast email… you know the drill. Hit every medium as hard as possible, get as much attention as possible, and you’ll win.

Here’s the promise of inbound: Build it and they will come. Make great content. Make superb content. Make INSANELY GREAT CONTENT (as often as humanly possible). Be awesome. Be generous. Overshare everything. Be a good person. Be human. Be helpful. Do all the right things, play nicely, and the world will beat a path to your doorstep.

Both are lies in their pure form, in that they claim nearly-exclusive paths to victory in their promises. Neither will get you to the finish line alone. More important, there’s a timing to both to make them effective. Consider what you know about how you find out about things, about how you buy things. Something has to interrupt you. It might be that wonderful, golden promise of a friend or colleague telling you about something via word of mouth, but that’s still an interruption to the status quo. It could be an ad. It could be an email. It could be any kind of attention-getter at all – but it has to be something that captures your attention.

From there, once you are aware of the stimulus, you go into research mode, into Google’s Zero Moment of Truth. You research, you ask, you learn, and then you buy, the First Moment of Truth. If the brand’s promise is kept, then you develop and mature the relationship and it becomes truly about the relationship between you and the brand, the Second Moment of Truth. That’s outbound and inbound working together, in the right order.

Think about it like lighting a campfire. Outbound is your tinder, your firestarter, some lighter fluid. Lots of flash, lots of heat, but it goes quickly. Inbound is your kindling, your logs, your fuel. If you rely only on outbound, you will have warmth and light for a very short time and then you’ll be the dark for a long while. If you rely only on inbound, you’ll have a beautiful pile of unburnt wood come morning. If you do it in the wrong order, you’ll be putting matches to foot-wide logs and be out of matches and frustrated why, even though you have all the right tools, you are cold and it is dark.

Put them together in the right order, and you’ll have warmth, light, and maybe a nice meal. That’s the real promise of both inbound and outbound: use them both intelligently and at the right time, and you’ll be successful.

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August 22, 2013
Why correlation vs. causation matters
One of the constant refrains you’ll hear from analytics and metrics experts like Tom Webster and many other sensible digital marketers is that correlation is not causation, and you shouldn’t confuse the two. It’s Statistics 101, after all. However, we don’t often talk about why this matters and why it’s bad.

Fundamentally, the reason why confusing correlation with causation is bad is this very basic idea: everything in life is cause and effect. You do something, and there’s a whole chain of effects from what you did. Eat a doughnut, and a thousand different things happen in your body as saliva flows, stomach acid churns, sugar and starch molecules are converted and enter your bloodstream, you feel the sugar rush, and if you don’t use up those molecules of energy, your body stores them in fat cells.

Likewise, in marketing, everything is also cause and effect. Put up an ad online, people see it, some click on it, and some portion of those people buy it. Send an email, some people see it, some people open it, some people click on things, some people go back to your website and buy it.

The problem with correlation and causation is one of order. Correlation looks the same regardless of the order of the processes. The number of ads posted mirrors the number of clicks on the ad. The energy gained from the doughnut mirrors the calories in it.

No one with any common sense, however, would argue that you should measure your blood sugar level changes to judge the impact of the doughnut by measuring before you eat the doughnut and not measure afterward. No one with any mathematical sense would argue that your ad click through rates are independent of whether or not you post the ad. Order matters. You need to eat the doughnut in order to cause the blood sugar change. You need to post the ad in order for people to click on it.

When we confuse correlation with causation, we are effectively saying that order doesn’t matter, when in reality order matters a great deal. Why? Because if we want things to get better, if we want to make changes, we need to know what to change. We need to know the order so that we are fixing the cause and not the effect. If we do things in the wrong order, the cause will continue to create effects, and our efforts will have no impact – or could even make things worse.

For example, if you’re looking at the correlation of content marketing to lead generation in your web analytics and you believe that lead generation is the problem, you’ll probably go and attempt to fix it. You might buy a bunch of ads, or send a bunch of emails, but if the cause of your marketing problem is crappy content, then buying all those ads will just waste your time and money. You have to fix the cause – crappy content – and doing so will create a cascading effect that seems to repair a whole host of problems.

That’s why correlation and causation are so important to get right. Get it right and you’ll fix your problems. Get it wrong and your problems will get worse even as you throw more time and resources at them that could be used for other problems.

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August 16, 2013
How to know if Pinterest is going to work for your business
One of the most popular questions I’m asked is whether Pinterest is right for a particular business. Here are three easy tests to make this determination, assuming you’re not active on Pinterest right now.

1. Check the Find Friends feature.

Assuming you’ve got a Twitter account for your business, see how many people who you’re connected to on Twitter are also on Pinterest. If it’s more than a handful, then Pinterest might be worth trying out.

2. Register your website with Pinterest analytics.

Once you register (it’s free), you’ll be able to see what activity Pinterest is driving to your website even without effort on your part. If it’s more than zero activity, then Pinterest might be worth trying out.

3. Look in Google Analytics.

Set up a custom segment to look for traffic coming in from Pinterest.com or the Pinterest short URL, Pin.st. Again, if it’s more than zero, then Pinterest might be worth trying out.

The logic behind these three tests is that if there’s already any amount of activity coming from Pinterest with no effort on your part, then your brand’s audience may be there and doing stuff on your behalf, unasked. Your next step is to get active on Pinterest and see if those few embers and sparks can be fanned into a fire.

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July 16, 2013
Keeping marketing engagement during the summer months
I’ve been asked the same thematic question three times in the last two days, by a reporter, a colleague, and an online connection: how do you keep your levels of marketing engagement (email open rates, social media engagement, etc.) during the summer months when people go on vacation?

The answer here isn’t the one people want: you can’t. If we’re going to be honest with each other, you can’t. People go on vacation. They go out of the office. They stop paying attention as much. Life happens. Be okay with that. Plan ahead for it.

I know what some folks are thinking: we can’t be okay with that because our sales department demands X number of leads every month, rain or shine, summer or winter. Here’s the thing: they need to plan ahead as well. It’s not exactly a surprise when the calendar flips past Memorial Day. It’s not like no one saw it coming; anyone with half a brain can see that the number of Out of Office replies in your inbox begins to spike right after Memorial Day and every newsletter bounces a lot more until Labor Day. It is going to happen, and there isn’t a bloody thing you or the entire sales team can do about life happening outside of work.

Here’s the flip side, the silver lining: because things slow down, your opportunity to reach the people who are still (grudgingly) in the office improves. If you’ve got a prospect who’s still in the office at 2 PM on Friday, there may literally be nothing for them to do but read your email or comment on your Facebook Page. Take the time to create really outstanding content. Switch things up. Test a lot more. Do more direct outreach. Heck, throw summer barbecue recipes in your newsletter just to mix things up and provide some different content for the people who are still around. Hold focus groups. Write eBooks. Use the slow time to color outside the lines a little more. You might just discover something that will help you bust down the doors when Labor Day comes and goes.

The pace of work may slow down, but your pace of creativity and productivity doesn’t have to.

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June 20, 2013
Why influencers matter: Big Data, recommendations, predictions
You know what the most fundamental problem with predictive algorithms is currently? I’m talking about predictive things like Google’s Prediction API or Amazon’s Recommended or any of the other shopping-related predictive logic/Big Data packages available to us. The problem is that they are firmly rooted in past history, which means that innovative recommendations are an impossibility. Discovery is an impossibility right now.

For example, in Facebook’s Graph Search, you can ask it for recommendations:

When you do, it gives you what people who are your friends like:

There’s a lot of truth to “like attracts like”: I’ve heard and in some cases liked every musician displayed by these results. Nothing here is a discovery. Nothing here is something new, something that I wouldn’t have thought to have tried out. Now bear in mind, the algorithm behind this is working perfectly: it’s finding common grounds and similarities among my friends and presenting them. But there’s nothing new here. In the case of Facebook’s Graph Search, in order to see truly new stuff here, I’d need to make more than a few new friends who aren’t like my existing friends in order to discover some very different music to try out.

This presents a problem to marketers as well. If you’ve got a brand new product that no one has heard of and that no one likes, the algorithms will tend to reinforce the status quo. Breaking into a new market will be more difficult because all of the existing recommendations don’t include you.

This is why it’s becoming increasingly important (for good or ill) to get the buy-in of “influencers”. The people with the largest social graphs, the people with the largest numbers of connections, actually do matter for more than just a high school popularity contest. If you’re a company with a brand new product and you don’t have a strong base already, you will need those influential, large audiences to populate the recommendation engines and get into the “Your friends liked” listings.

It’s a strange parallel: in the old days, as far back as ancient Rome, you needed a powerful patron to support and finance your art, your business, your organization. For a short while in the online world, it was an open, level playing field, but with these new predictive algorithms, we’re back to the patron model with a twist: now it’s marketing patrons endorsing you and giving you their blessing (and access to their audiences) in order to move your business forward. The person is the platform.

Are you prepared for this future? Are you building your platform now so that wherever you work, your value is amplified by your platform? Is your business building its own platform of trusted influencers so that you’re showing up in recommendation engines? If not, you’re going to miss out on many more opportunities.

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June 14, 2013

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