Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Advice for Print Companies in the Digital Age?

    You Ask, I Answer: Advice for Print Companies in the Digital Age?

    In today’s episode, I look at how print and direct mail can capture attention in our increasingly digital world. As inboxes overflow with emails and DMs, tangible mail stands out as something scarce. Well-designed, highly targeted print publications connect with audiences in a tangible, memorable way. Join me as I explore the unique value print companies can offer brands in the digital age.

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    In today’s episode, Mark asks, What advice do you have for partners like print companies to offer more value to brand owners? How do they stay relevant? Print is an interesting industry.

    Because for a long time, people have regarded as slow, inefficient, very costly, environmentally damaging and out of step with the modern world, right? We’re all on these devices all the time we’re running around, connected, we’ve got companies saying, Hey, now we’re gonna slap a pair of goggles on your face and, and so on and so forth.

    And yet, print and direct mail in particular, print has a unique opportunity in the current environment, it is different.

    It is it is different and it is scarce.

    Take a moment and think about the contents of your postal inbox, the mailbox where physical mail gets dropped off at your house.

    What’s in it? Some bills, maybe even that kind of going away because paperless billing saves time and money for a lot of folks.

    Maybe some local flyers, maybe one of the folks who still still subscribes to like a paper newspaper, but not much.

    It’s a pretty empty place these days.

    Now, think about your digital inboxes, right? Not your not just your email inbox, but your DMs on Instagram and Facebook and LinkedIn and tick tock and Twitter, and so on and so on and so on.

    So there’s so many mail boxes, they’re all full, they’re bursting at the seams.

    That’s what there’s a lot of messaging.

    What happens when we are swamped by messaging, we ignore it, right? Mark, all is read, archive this delete inbox zero.

    We are our tension in our electronic inboxes is scattered at best.

    And again, it’s across all these different systems.

    That’s even harder to figure out as to where should I be paying attention.

    And that’s why print is an interesting opportunity because when when you get something that is is physical is tangible, it’s different, right? Take a book like everybody writes a J bears new, the time to win, right? These are print publications, a they work without the internet, right? They work really well on things like planes, power outages and stuff.

    And, you know, this is I think J’s is really, really powerful and clever because it’s so small, right? It’s, it’s valuable.

    It’s it’s a good read.

    I don’t like the font inside, but that’s just my personal preferences.

    But this is print, right? This is could even be direct mail, you could mail somebody these books and Jay hands out a pack of three one for you one for someone you work with and one to give away.

    This is different.

    This is scarce, right? This is tangible in ways that that electronic communications are not this is durable.

    When I turn off my computer, all my inboxes go off to I when I turn off the lights, this book still exists, I can’t read it anymore.

    But it still exists, right? It’s still there.

    And it’s this scarcity.

    It is this, this tangibility, this fungibility that is so interesting.

    It stands out.

    More and more and more of our lives are becoming digital every single day.

    Right? We now have conversations with AI, for example.

    So even our conversations are becoming digital in some ways.

    So as things go more digital as more companies say, hey, let’s save money by pushing our communications into into digital format.

    What’s tangible becomes more scarce and therefore more noticeable.

    When someone hands you one of these go, huh? That’s different.

    I hand you another email, you can go is that different? Nope.

    Now, this does not mean a return to sending out piles of crap junk mail, right? Nobody wants that either.

    But if you took a high quality publication in tangible format and digital format, and handed it out to people who would be interested in receiving it, I would wager I can’t prove this, but I would wager that the tangible version would at least be remembered.

    Because it’s different.

    It stands out.

    It’s scarce.

    So we’re talking about print publications that are highly tailored, highly focused because this stuff is expensive, right? These things are not cheap.

    But think about books, glossy magazines, mailers that are truly innovative and creative.

    You got to watch your budget because again, the tangible things cost more because they they need to be made.

    Right? They’re not just piles of electrons.

    But when you reach the right people in your audience, it makes a difference.

    When you reach the right people in your audience.

    People show this off, right? Think about your favorite streamers on Twitch or YouTube or Instagram, when they’re when they’re doing live streams.

    What was the last time you had one of them hold up like a tabloid to the screeches? Hey, look at this amazing email I got.

    I’ve never seen that.

    Certainly not in the business of consumer streams.

    But do people hold up physical goods that they’ve received? Sure do.

    They sure do.

    People love tangible items to show off they can show this off.

    You can’t do that with a digital good nearly as easily.

    Yeah, I could hold up your iPad and like, hey, here’s this thing I got.

    But the physical tangible goods are are powerful because we we instinctively as as animals recognize this is a thing that I can pick up and hold I can smell it.

    It’s real in a way that digital communications are not.

    So that is the opportunity for print companies for manufacturers for 3d printers, all these things.

    That’s, that’s how they provide brand value and how they stay relevant by helping brands realize what is scarce, where attention is, is rich, but there’s not a lot of competition, and then going to those places and bringing physical goods to those places.

    So it’s a good question.

    Thanks for asking.

    We’ll talk to you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Generative AI Will Reshape Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Generative AI Will Reshape Marketing?

    In today’s episode, I look at how AI will reshape marketing as it transforms language and imagery. With its skill for generating content, AI brings unlimited scaling to communicate and persuade. For analytics, AI coding workarounds compensate for poor math skills with excellent language abilities. Join me as we explore the huge potential of AI to truly personalize the customer journey.

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    In today’s episode, Mark asks in your perspective, how do you foresee AI reshaping the future of marketing, especially in areas like content marketing, customer journey, mapping and analytics? This is always a challenging question.

    I get for literally every professional discipline, how is going to reshape finance and HR and sales and marketing, etc, etc.

    And the reason is challenging is because of the nature of generative AI, because of the nature of things like diffusers and transformers.

    These, these tools are based on things like language and imagery.

    Look at your own profession.

    What percentage of your tasks every day are image based, or language based? When you think about that, when you think about the customer journey, for example, as a real simple example, how much of the customer journey is impacted by my language, all of it, the whole thing.

    At no point in the customer journey, do you communicate with anybody as a customer who in some way is not using language, right? Except maybe like music videos, right? Where there’s no words is just music and a video.

    But that’s pretty rare.

    Most of the time, we’re communicating with language, and we are sending emails, we are in online chat, we’re in face to face meetings, we are in zoom calls, we’re using language all the time.

    And because we’re using language all the time, it can be very challenging then to say like, well, what is what is generative AI not going to impact? If it uses language, a large language model can impact it, it can change it, it can alter it.

    Today’s language models can generate very, very skillful language, right? That’s a great way of saying they are skillful at language, they can write content that can inform that can persuade that can convert, and they can do it at scale at scale that we can’t match as humans.

    We are not as fast.

    We are not as prolific.

    And we’re limited by our physical selves, right? I can sit down my keyboard and write and if I’m super caffeinated, whatever, I can write a whole bunch.

    But I can’t clone myself.

    I can’t spin up another version of Chris and write some more stuff.

    Machines can machines can do that machines can spin up another version or versions of themselves and just go and go and go.

    And so if you have a model to maybe trained on how you write, that’s very likely to be a very successful way to generate a lot of content, a lot of language.

    If you have a chat bot, that chat bot can handle as many customers as you have compute power for.

    You can’t hire that many people.

    If you’re a big company, you can’t hire that many people to cover what a language model could do in your call center.

    When we talk about things like analytics, machines are large language models are bad at math.

    They’re really bad at math.

    But what they’re not bad at is language.

    They’re very good at language.

    And what we’re seeing now, particularly with tools like chat GPT is advanced data analysis feature is that they know they’re not good at math, but they’re good at language.

    And so they can write in language aka code to have the code do the math, right.

    So that’s sort of the workaround that these tools have discovered is they can create code in Python or R or the language of your choice, execute that code.

    And get math solutions that they know they can’t solve.

    And so we’re seeing tremendous usage of these advanced data analysis features in chat GPT to process data to look for anomalies in our data to to create algorithms and analyses that maybe we can’t do or we certainly can’t do fast enough.

    The other day, I trust insights Katie and I have been working on trying to get reporting out of HubSpot for quite some time, right, we’re not paying the premier, like most expensive fee.

    And so there’s a lot of stuff that in the interface isn’t available.

    But there’s certain it’s in the API.

    And so what we’ve been doing for a while is just trying to write the code necessary to basically build our own version of the reporting.

    It was taking a really long time.

    The other day, thanks to the GPT form model, and me knowing what I wanted it to do knowing what I wanted to ask it.

    I knocked out like eight major reporting tasks that previously were going to take me four to eight hours at a time to do I got all eight done in a day, because the tools generate the language needed to make things happen.

    And the last way that for marketing is going to be huge is true, actual personalization.

    We have been giving lip service to personalization for 20 years, right? We’ve all gotten the email saying, you know, hi, for F name or high first name.

    And the reality is, we don’t have the human scale to personalize not beyond real basic stuff, right? Hey, here’s a here’s an email creator for this segment or this persona in our database.

    It’s not personalized, right? It’s it’s cohort based.

    And yes, that can improve things.

    Certainly, if you are someone who maybe you’re, you’re black, or you’re female, or you’re queer, or whatever, and you get communications that are at least addressing your segment of the market, it feels more personalized than Hey, F name, but it’s still not actually personalized because it’s not a one to one communication, except in the most personal businesses, right? When you go to the local diner, and the server recognizes you as a Bob, good to see you again.

    That’s sort of the dream that marketers have had for personalization that is just not coming true.

    But AI gives us that ability.

    AI has the ability to with enough scale with enough compute power to do real personalization have a language model that remembers who you are that can pull your customer data record up and talk to you as you the person, not the customer cohort, not the group of the category, but but you.

    It’s still very early days that a lot of companies have not figured out how to do that well, or at all yet.

    But the potential is there.

    The potential is there for you to log on to a chatbot on a company’s website, and have that chatbot say, Hey, Chris, it’s great to see you again.

    Last time we talked, you were thinking about this new microphone system.

    Are you still thinking about it? Because there’s other one that’s coming out now that maybe you might like better.

    Or, hey, I remember you’re having that tech support issue to get resolved because if not, it might be easier just to buy a new thing, right? You can imagine that level of personalization in our marketing.

    That’s where this stuff can go.

    If we let it if we are careful about it, if we are thoughtful about it, and we are willing to do the experimentation to make it happen.

    That’s the potential that we see in these systems.

    So really good question.

    Challenging question.

    There is no place where language or images are not used that generative AI cannot provide serious transformative capabilities.

    So thanks for watching.

    Talk to you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Who To Hire For Large Language Models?

    You Ask, I Answer: Who To Hire For Large Language Models?

    In today’s episode, I tackle the question of how to staff up your agency to take advantage of open source AI. I explain that leveraging these new technologies requires a cross-functional team, not just one specialist. From IT infrastructure to project management and requirements gathering, many key roles are needed to implement generative AI successfully. Discover the insights you’ll need to build a winning team!

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    In today’s episode, Chris asks, I run an agency and I want to get to the next level with open source, large language models and generative AI, who am I looking for? This is a very tricky question.

    And it’s a tricky question, because we think of generative AI as this thing, like, you know, use chat GPT, or you use LM studio or something.

    And the reality is, under the surface, it’s not one thing, it’s a whole bunch of things.

    At a bare minimum.

    This is a person who has experience with it with information technology.

    So to run an open source model, you need to have compute infrastructure, you need to have a compute infrastructure that either runs locally on your hardware or runs in the cloud somewhere.

    So if you were to deploy, say the llama to model, and you were to do so, say in Google Colab, or Azure or AWS, you need to have a server that has GPUs that can run that model because you don’t want to do it on CPU inference.

    It’s bad idea, you’ll be waiting forever for like even simple answers.

    So you need some horsepower.

    That means you need people who are comfortable working within that infrastructure.

    Now they may not be full time employees, but they better be people who know how to deploy that kind of hardware or services to do that.

    Then once you’ve got a model, minimally operational, you need to be able to talk to it, you need to have some kind of interface to it, because I’m presuming that this is not this is not something that everyone in the agency is going to be working on, you know, command lines and issuing commands directly to an LLM.

    It’s kind of like driving a car by, you know, manipulating the chains going in and out of an engine, you really wouldn’t do that.

    You would, you would give your users an interface like a steering wheel and pedals to be able to use a car successfully, chairs, you know, no one wants to sit on a motor going down the road.

    So an LLM needs some kind of interface, and there’s so many different options there.

    So you’d want to have someone who has some experience evaluating different options, and figuring out which one best suits the the needs of the agency, which means you also need someone who can do requirements gathering really well, a good project manager with DevOps and it background, who can ask and users, hey, we’re going to be rolling this thing out.

    It’s like chat GPT, but it’s our own, what would you like it to be able to do? And that requirements gathering is going to help you scope out what the project looks like, because it might just be as simple as we got all these documents, we want to be able to ask questions for our documents.

    And you might say, you know, then we’re just going to wait for Microsoft Copilot to come out and have Microsoft and its infrastructure, handle that for Office 365.

    That’s all people want.

    That’s fine.

    You don’t need to build a lot of stuff.

    If you are saying to your stakeholders or your your key personal, hey, I want a custom model that does x, y, and z tasks that are unique to our agency, but does them really well.

    Okay, now you have some better requirements.

    If you say I want a system that can automate this set of processes, you then have to start looking, okay, well, what kind of developers do we need to do? Because, believe it or not, language models, language models are not all that capable.

    I know that sounds weird.

    So you know, everyone’s talking about chat GPT and, and what large language models can do and how they’re going to take over the world.

    Their word prediction engines, that’s all they are.

    They’re really good at language.

    They’re really not good at things that are not language.

    And so to make the most of these systems, they need other infrastructure support, they need a vector database of some kind to take your data and transform it so that it’s usable by language model, they need a system like Lang chain to be able to tie in external services, right? chat GPT can’t even browse the web.

    So you’d want to have something like the ability for Lang chain to talk to say like a selenium browser instance to go browse the web and return the HTML to your language model to then process the language within it.

    So a big part of this comes down to requirements gathering and system architecture.

    And then you have DevOps, you have it.

    And then you have your project management.

    So this is not a person you’re looking for.

    There is no person that I know of.

    And I know some really, really, really smart people who are way smarter than I am.

    There is no person like this who exists.

    This is a team effort.

    This is a team effort between project management, and it and DevOps, and marketing, and your and your stakeholders, right? This is this is sort of an all hands thing, starting with requirements gathering, then going into building a project plan, then figuring out the infrastructure and the coding and all the pieces you need.

    And what the final vision looks like? What is the product at the end of the day? Is it a web interface on your company’s internet that people can use? Is it an app on their phones? Is it a public facing tool? Whatever it is, you need to be super clear on it so that people understand this is what we’re going to get.

    And so it is it is fun to play with the models themselves.

    I do it all the time.

    I make them do all sorts of weird things, you know, turn, turn a role play software into a focus group and stuff.

    But putting this stuff into production, particularly if you’re going to make it part of your secret sauce requires a lot of thought, a lot of budget, a lot of people, and a lot of good processes.

    It’s a that we call the trust insights five P’s, what is the purpose? Who are the people that are going to be involved? What are the processes that are involved? What platform and technology you’re going to use? And then what’s the performance? How do you know that you’ve succeeded? Building out this kind of capability within your agency requires rigorous adherence to that framework.

    So you get all the steps done.

    And critically, you don’t invest 10s or hundreds of 1000s of dollars and 1000s of hours to build something nobody wants.

    Right, or to build something that is going to be obsolete in three months.

    You know, so there’s even part of the requirements gathering is understanding how to how do you architect software that has abstraction layers in it, so that as new models and new capabilities come out, you just pick one up, put another one in.

    Those are the kinds of considerations that you need to build into the project to to be thinking of in advance.

    And that’s, you know, that’s what my company does, we help with the consulting on that to say, Okay, here’s, here’s all the catches that are going to happen.

    Make sure you have a plan for them.

    It’s a good question.

    And your head is in the right place.

    You are thinking along the right lines.

    But it is not a person.

    It’s not even a couple of people.

    It is a big effort with big rewards if you do it right.

    But also a lot of things that can go wrong.

    If you are not diligent, if you are not prepared, if you don’t do really, really, really, really good project management.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Why Do Open Source Large Language Models Matter?

    You Ask, I Answer: Why Do Open Source Large Language Models Matter?

    In today’s episode, Amy asks why open source AI models like LLaMa 2 matter. I explain how they allow independence from big tech platforms, custom tuning, and control over data privacy. Open source lets you run models on your own terms rather than relying on third parties. Tune in for a breakdown of the benefits open source provides businesses adopting AI.

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    In today’s episode, Amy asks, Can you explain in layman’s terms why open source models like llama to matter so much? Can you break it down so we can understand what it’s what’s important about? Okay, so the llama to model which was released by meta, still want to say Facebook, but it’s better is an open source model in that they have given away the model itself and the model weights.

    What that means is that anyone who agrees to the license can take this language model and run it on their own hardware or software.

    And if you have some fewer than 700 million users per month, you don’t have to pay Facebook meta, you don’t pay meta a dime, it’s free to use.

    Now, when you look at existing models, like the models that power chat GPT or the models that power Google Bard, we have access to the interface, right, we can log on to chat GPT and we can start typing, and we’ll get some results for free.

    And if you want more better stuff, you pay the 20 bucks a month for the the pro account.

    But you don’t get the model itself, right, you get an interface to it.

    That means that you are perpetually using someone else’s model on their terms in their system in their services.

    And at any point in time, they can turn off the switch, and you no longer have access to it.

    As we’ve seen many, many times with chat GPT when their demand is very, very high, those sorry, we’re having performance issues.

    So the service is not running right now.

    You can’t do anything about it.

    You’re like, Okay, well, I guess I’ll just get a sandwich because I’m okay.

    That’s a model owned by someone else.

    An open source model.

    And it’s there’s some there’s some debate about whether you can truly call it open source because a meta has not released the training data used to make the model, they only released the fully baked product itself.

    However, there’s a whole very arcane system of decompiling and retuning models we’re not going to get into effectively though.

    functionally, it is very much like an open source product, you can take this thing, you can modify it, you can run it, you can do all sorts of stuff with it.

    And you don’t have to pay meta for it until you reach that 700 million a month user mark.

    Why is this a big deal? Because if you want to integrate generative AI, large language models into your product into your product or service.

    If you use a big provider like open AI or Microsoft Azure or Google, you have to pay for it.

    Right? Every time someone uses a chat bot in your in your app, you have to pay a small amount of money to open AI or to Microsoft or to Google.

    And that adds up real fast, right? It’s it’s fine in testing.

    Oh, it’s three tenths of a cent to run this query.

    Okay, great.

    What happens when it’s 100 million users a day? Asking those questions, what happens when it’s, you know, people asking 80 questions at a time, those bills add up real fast.

    Also, at any point, you know, Microsoft or Google or open AI can say, Well, you know, I really don’t like how you’re using my software.

    So I’ve cut off your account, which is really problematic when you think about it, because it means that access to this technology is heavily controlled by large technology companies.

    When you have an open source model, you download this onto your laptop onto your servers onto your compute infrastructure and you run it with open source infrastructure like cobalt or llama dot cpp or any of the the many, many, many, many engines that can run a large language model, they’re all open source and free.

    At that point, no one can control you anymore.

    No one can say, Hey, you can’t use the model for that because it’s on the privacy of your own laptop and never there’s no data going across the internet.

    If you want to have a conversation with llama instruct, which is the chat version of it entirely about like clowns covering themselves in ketchup, you can you can have that conversation.

    That’s completely private is completely up to you how you interact with the model.

    From a business perspective.

    Again, as long as you’re under that 700 million user a month requirement, that means that instead of paying hundreds or 1000s or 10s of 1000s of dollars to open AI, because you’ve integrated their software into your product, you run this model instead, and you pay the cost of your computer infrastructure running it instead.

    So if you’ve already got a room full of servers, it’s not a huge stretch to add more and run the model yourself, then it’s yours.

    If chat GPT is down that day, you don’t care, because your servers and your infrastructure are running your version of the model.

    And no one can take that away from you.

    No one can censor you.

    No one can tell you can’t do this or that.

    I mean, they can tell you they can’t enforce it.

    And so that’s a it’s it’s about independence.

    It’s about freedom of choice.

    It is about control over the AI experience.

    You can also take these models and tune them you can you can modify them.

    If you have if you download the llama two base model, you can retune it and say, Okay, I want you to be specifically expert in accounting, you’re going to know general ledgers, double entry bookkeeping, generally accounted, accepted accounting procedures, you’ll know, tax structure, you’ll know all this stuff.

    And you’ll reweight the model, you will influence it, you’ll modify what it can and can’t do, it will get worse at some things, right? It will, as you the more you tune a model towards a specific task, the less can do other tasks.

    So it will stop being able to tell jokes as well.

    But boy, will it answer any question you have about any accounting scenario, or any marketing scenario or any HR scenario, you name it, you can retune these models.

    And so these are the reasons why, at least from my point of view, these open source models are really, really important.

    They allow you to, to build your own infrastructure.

    They allow you to tune a model to very specific circumstances.

    And they give you more control, give you more control.

    If your company deals with personally identifying information, sensitive, protected information or protected health information, you absolutely should not be using a third party model for those you should, under no circumstance be handing that to open AI or Google or whatever.

    When you download and run the llama model, for example, from meta, yes, Facebook made it.

    But it’s not on their servers.

    It’s on your laptop and no data is being transmitted to meta.

    It’s all being run locally, which means that you have control over the data that you’re giving to a model, what it does with it and where that output goes.

    And for ensuring privacy and data safety.

    That is the only choice that you can use in large language models and still comply with all the laws that you’re required to.

    So that’s why it’s a big deal.

    It will, it’s getting to be a bigger and bigger deal every day.

    And it’s something that people need to be aware of, and to have in their mix of their generative AI solutions.

    So great question.

    Thanks for asking.

    If you like this video, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Power of Large Language Models?

    You Ask, I Answer: Power of Large Language Models?

    In today’s episode, Anne asks how I see the power of large language models having the most utility. I explain what agent networks are and how they allow multiple AI models to work together. This coordination unlocks capabilities beyond any single model, like integrating search engines and workflows. Tune in for examples of agent networks in action and how they will transform productivity.

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    in today’s episode and asks when you mentioned large language models are more powerful than people imagine, in which ways do you see that power having most utility? And what excites you about that? Okay.

    This is in relation to actually a whole conversation that we had on threads, because I’ve left behind the dumpster fire that is the network formerly known as Twitter.

    And this was a discussion about large language models and in specific agent networks.

    So if you’re not familiar, an agent network in in AI language is when you have multiple language models working together.

    So if you think about chat GPT, for example, that is a single instance of a language model, you are talking to one instance of it, you ask a question, it gives you answers, it tells you jokes, it writes limericks, etc.

    You’re used to that, you know how to use that.

    And you know how to ask follow on questions.

    If you say write a limerick, and you’re like, Okay, well, that wasn’t funny.

    So let’s let’s revise it.

    There are systems, technologies out there that allow you to glue together language models along with other systems, probably the most well known one is a system called Lang chain, which is a scripted environment where you tie together multiple language models.

    So real practical example, you have one language model that is maybe writing a trashy romance novel.

    And you have a second model that reads the output of the first model and edits it says, well, that doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense or that’s misspelled or that doesn’t you know that there’s no coherence.

    And you have a third model that inspects the overall output saying, Look, there’s a there’s no narrative arc here, right? Yeah.

    You know, and and Suzy, me in Act one and the Suzy are dating in act two and Suzy are riding hot air balloons.

    It’s like, look, there’s the so that third model’s job is to inspect the overall arc and say, okay, model one, go back and try again, you know, girl meets girl, girl falls in love with girl.

    Hot air balloons, huh? It should be girl meets girl, girl falls in love with girl girl breaks up with girl, girl gets back together with girl and so on and so forth.

    And so that’s an example of an agent network, you’d have multiple models controlled by the software called Lang chain, that would be interacting with the outputs in ways that one model can’t do on its own right in the same way that a software developer really should not be qAing their own code.

    A language model really should probably not be trying to edit as it writes, just like you know, if you read my friend and Hanley’s book, everybody writes, including AI writing and editing are different tasks, you should not be editing while you’re writing.

    And so you would either do that separately, or you hire an editor to edit your writing.

    That’s what an agent network is.

    It is multiple instances of language models doing different tasks in coordination with each other.

    And these are really, really, really powerful because they can also talk to other pieces of software.

    So Lang chain, for example, can talk to something like a selenium web driver, which is a fancy piece of technology that just browsers the web, it’s just a web browser that a computer uses instead of your eyes.

    So it doesn’t need the all back button and all this stuff.

    It just is a text based web browser.

    Systems like chat GPT, or Claude, or whatever, they can’t browse the web.

    chat GPT used to be able to but it turns out that people were misusing it.

    So they can’t do that anymore.

    Selenium, selenium web driver can, but it needs to be told what to do.

    So now in an agent network, you have a language model doing some generation that Lang chain can take that output, pass it to a selenium instance and say browse the web and bring back the text from that web.

    And then hand either hand it back to the original language model or pass to another language model and say, hey, interpret this and do something with it.

    You can see this at work in Microsoft Bing.

    If you use Microsoft Bing with its with its chat GPT integration, when you ask a question of Bing chat, watch what happens it will, it will take your question out of natural language.

    And the GPT form model will rewrite that question as a Bing query and that will pass that to Bing search engine, pull the results back from the search engine, pass it back to the GPT model to say rewrite this into, you know, coherent narrative text, and boom, there’s your answer.

    It’s not asking the GPT model for the answer.

    It’s asking the Bing search engine.

    So Microsoft has sort of glued together different components to make this this ecosystem.

    It’s the smart way to do large scale implementations of AI.

    So that’s the power of these systems.

    The models themselves are very powerful, but they’re really good at language.

    They’re not really good at other things.

    They’re not really good at search.

    They’re not really they’re definitely not good at math.

    And they can they can lose their memory over time because of all sorts of technical limitations.

    But they’re really good at language.

    So if you take something that’s really good at language and glue it to a database, or you glue it to a web browser, or you glue it to a chat client, or you glue it to a spreadsheet, you are now creating networks of systems that can interact with each other and develop capabilities that are beyond what any one component itself can do.

    Again, this is where Google duet and Microsoft Co pilot are going to really really unlock the power of these these language models because in Microsoft Co pilot, you’ll be able to be in a Word document and say, turn this into a PowerPoint presentation.

    The language model is not going to do that.

    The language model is going to take your input and the document and use and it’s going to write code because code is a language.

    It’s going to write code to pass to like Visual Basic Script or Python or whatever the backend languages that Microsoft uses that will then create the output.

    And so that’s how these tools get around their limitations of you know, the tasks that are not language like making PowerPoints.

    Writing code is a language and therefore, a language model can control PowerPoint or Excel or Word.

    So that’s where I see these tools having enormous utility in agent networks, as part of an overall computational environment that brings in all these heterogeneous systems, and the unifies them with language the same way we do.

    Right? That’s the secret.

    That is the secret.

    We do this already as humans, we use language, we have keyboards and mice and they type and where we talk, and we click on things on the screen.

    We are interacting with our software that exists today through language.

    So getting a machine to use the same style of communication is not really a stretch.

    And therefore, that’s what’s going to unlock productivity.

    And that’s really exciting, right? If you would get good at, at prompt engineering, or just prompting, let’s just call it prompting.

    And you understand how specific you need to be to get good outcomes.

    As language models find themselves into every single piece of software, and as agent networks spring up, you will be able to do more than any other, you know, colleague who’s not using AI, you’ll be dramatically more productive.

    I think Boston Consulting Group just did a study saying that people who use AI within their job were 40% more productive.

    Now keep in mind, companies are delighted to see that.

    And they’re excited, like out of their minds, they get a 2% increase in productivity in employees.

    So when you see 40% increase in productivity, that’s like, your head just explode, you know, money starts raining from the sky.

    That’s, that’s what’s exciting about this stuff.

    If you get on board and you get proficient at it today, you are paving a path for yourself to be the conductor of the orchestra, right, the leader of the world.

    And bags of money to join existing companies that want to retain their leadership in the face of a highly disruptive trend.

    So really good question.

    It’s there’s a lot we can explore on it, but it’s a that’s a good start.

    So thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Adoption of Generative AI and Impact?

    You Ask, I Answer: Adoption of Generative AI and Impact?

    In today’s episode, Paul asks how prepared organizations are for generative AI and its impact. I explain why most companies are still early in adoption and not ready for the transformation ahead. There’s an urgency to understand AI’s effects, but many lack the baseline knowledge needed. Tune in to hear my full thoughts on where companies stand and how leaders can get up to speed.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, Paul sent over really, really long thing.

    Paul is Paul Retser from Marketing AI Conference, the Marketing AI Institute.

    I said, one, the vast majority of organizations are just getting started with AI.

    Even those that have been using it for a while, we’re not prepared for generative AI and the transformative impact it’s having on any industry, every industry.

    To most organizations are still thinking about AI solely as a technology challenge, not addressing the significant near term comprehensive change management through the organization.

    organization three, there’s a lack of urgency to solve for the wider impact of AI, why leadership and many of these organizations lack even a baseline understanding of what it is, and the effects it’s going to have.

    What are your thoughts? Wow, there is a lot to unpack there.

    So let’s tackle this piece by piece because yeah, there’s a lot to talk about.

    Number one, the vast majority of companies are just getting started with AI with generative AI 100% true.

    Most companies don’t have a generative AI strategy.

    If they even have an AI strategy at all.

    And specifically, there’s a lack of process and governance around the use of generative AI within organizations, even something as simple as hey, are you even allowed to use this thing? So take something like chat GPT, that is owned and operated by a third party company called open AI.

    Open AI is not your company.

    If you copy and paste corporate data that is owned by your company into somebody else’s system, you are effectively giving them that information is being recorded as being logged, and it may be used to train models, or who knows what else you don’t know.

    So companies absolutely need to have some kind of standards about what tools you are and are not allowed to use.

    And that’s really important.

    And it’s not happening.

    Secondly, the transformative effect that Paul is referencing about generative AI is the effect of lay people, non technical people, people who do not code people who do not play with servers.

    And their ability to use AI tools, right? That’s the transformation, suddenly, everyone can you can open up chat GPT.

    And you can have a conversation with it as if you were talking to another person.

    Very often we talk about how it’s, it’s, it’s like an intern, a very, very smart intern that you have on your staff now that can do lots and lots of things, but you need to be very specific about your instructions.

    Most people are not ready to have an intern, right? Most people aren’t sure how to manage an intern.

    And so this transformation is a big deal.

    It’s a big deal that people aren’t ready for.

    So that’s part one.

    And I completely agree, most companies are not prepared.

    They’re still not prepared.

    And they’re not thinking about what this is going to do to their companies.

    If you check out this past week’s newsletter on the death of the hourly business, this there’s a lot of companies that are going to be adversely affected if they’re don’t get on board and figure out how to do value based billing, and then how to implement AI point to people thinking of AI as a technology challenge.

    100% agree with this.

    So at trust insights, we have a five part framework, purpose, people process platform performance purpose, what are you doing? And why people who’s involved process? What are the things that are involved that anyone process wise in your organization, platform is the technology and performance is the outcome.

    Did you did you get done what you needed to get done? People don’t think of AI as encompassing all of those, but you’ve got to, you’ve got to think about AI as it is a technology.

    But it is a technology that a lot of people can use in a lot of different ways.

    Throughout your organization, it’s not just a marketing tool, it’s not just a finance tool, it’s an everything tool in the same way that a spreadsheet is an everything tool, right? Every department in your organization can use a spreadsheet and most of them probably do.

    AI is the same thing.

    And no one’s thinking about how does this impact the organization as a whole? Change management is hard.

    Change management is hard because it involves that really, really complex system known as people, human beings.

    And when you have a transformative technology like AI that can just eat up tasks and radically change how you do business, you need to have a change management platform in place a change management system, a change management strategy to deal with everything that’s going to happen.

    And many of the the effects of AI still are not completely clear.

    This is another really important part.

    We are in the early innings of the AI game, if you will, we are seeing the technology evolve very, very, very fast, and in ways that we did not anticipate.

    And so people need to be very clear about what’s happening and be prepared to have lots of scenario planning.

    And who’s doing scenario planning about AI? Almost no one.

    Almost no one is doing any kind of scenario planning.

    And that’s really bad.

    Because when surprising things happen, you’re totally unprepared.

    So number two on on Paul’s questions.

    Agree, most people are not prepared.

    Number three, the lack of urgency to solve for the wider impact of AI, because people don’t understand what it is.

    Yes, I agree with that.

    I don’t know that is not just a baseline understanding that it varies based on the organization, the people we talked to, there are some people who think it, like, you know, the smartphone or the internet is a fad.

    And in fairness to those people, they have been plenty of technology based fads that have come and gone, right? blockchain and Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, we’re really hot for like a hot minute there.

    And then not so much.

    Things like clubhouse, the audio app was was like red hot for nine minutes, and then it vanished.

    And so folks who are in who are not in the AI space are probably looking at generative AI going, is this just another clubhouse? Are we going to be still be talking about this in three months? Or will we have moved on to something else? This is a transformative technology that changes how you work.

    And it changes how everyone works.

    And that’s what is going to make it much more durable than say, a cryptocurrency, a cryptocurrency, as an example, really difficult to use, right, you have to buy into it, you have to figure out the technology to buy into it, then you have to figure out what ecosystems even accepted as a form of currency.

    chat GPT, there’s a very low, very, very, very, very low barrier to entry there, which is sign up for a free account, and then start chatting.

    And the capabilities of large language models are such that they can be applied to just about everything.

    If it’s language based, it can be applied to it.

    So education is part of it.

    And so so is cynicism in the sense of tech trends that that come and go very quickly.

    So I think on that last point, it’s a mixed bag based on who you’re talking to.

    But there definitely is a need for more education.

    There definitely is a need for more understanding of the technology, the implications, the risks, the opportunities.

    If your company has not done an AI based SWOT analysis, you really should.

    You really should what are your strengths with regard to gender of AI? What are your weaknesses? externally? What are your opportunities? What are your threats? Are there competitors that are ahead of you in adoption? Are there competitors that are reaping productivity gains that you can’t see yet, but you’re like, huh, that’s weird, they seem to be cornering the market in specific ways that we can’t get what’s going on over there.

    And so having an understanding of the technology, and understanding the application of the technology, and then a sense of where your your competition is, is really important.

    And one of the things I think that everyone in every role in corporations should be doing at a leadership level to CFO, the CMO, the CEO, the COO, everybody who is has a leadership role should be attending events and conferences and things, just regular industry events, and just be listening, listening going, huh, I sat down that lunch roundtable, and everyone else is talking about AI.

    I wonder if we should be doing something I wonder if we’re behind, right? Or you sit down that table, nobody’s talking about AI, and you’re like, there’s a market opportunity here, no one else is paying attention to this thing.

    Maybe we could get a sizable competitive advantage.

    You don’t have to go to a conference, right? You can go on LinkedIn, and look at the profiles of your your peer competitors, and they’re their executive, their executives and say, Oh, look, you know, 20% of our competitors are talking about AI, and 80% they never mentioned it.

    That will give you a sense of the urgency that you need to adopt it, the and implement it and get get on board.

    Whether people want it or not, it is coming to every piece of software that there is.

    And we’ll talk about this later on, but is coming.

    And as a result, you need to have a strategy, a plan and a system of measurement to to make it work.

    So Paul, really good questions, as always.

    And this transformation is still in its early days.

    At the speed at which the technology is picking up from newer models, open sourcing, agent networks.

    It’s, it’s difficult to even look at the landscape now and try to see where it’s going, because it’s going so fast.

    But if even if you froze the technology to where it is today, that would still be transformative to every company.

    And the sooner people are on board with it, the sooner people are ready for it, the more benefit you will reap from it.

    So really good questions.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Accounting and Tax Large Language Model Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Accounting and Tax Large Language Model Strategy?

    In today’s episode, Allison asks about building AI models for accounting and taxes. I explain a hybrid approach works best – a language model plus a frequently updated data source. It’s complex but doable with the right strategy and data. Consulting can help create the blueprint. Tune in for more!

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    In today’s question, Allison asks, Are you aware of any large language models with tax and accounting data or any being developed or crazy question how to develop one when it comes to accounting and tax, the regulations change all the time.

    So it’d be important for the model to be updated as needed, which adds the complexity of our needs.

    Okay, so there are two approaches towards the use of large language models.

    One is the perfect memory approach where you try to train a model and fine tune it to have perfect memory.

    The model runs it doesn’t need any other data sources.

    It knows what to do in any given situation.

    Perfect memory models are good.

    They’re fast.

    They have a very large upfront cost to train them.

    And they go out of date really quickly.

    Because the moment something changes, the model doesn’t know it because you have to retrain it on a regular frequent basis.

    The second architecture, the one that we see a lot more companies taking is the language models and interpreter.

    It’s interpreter that connects to other systems and those other systems can have the data.

    So for example, when you use Microsoft Bing’s chat, Bing is not asking GPT four for the answers.

    Bing is asking GPT four to take the conversational thread that a user asks and convert it into queries that are compatible with Bing search engine.

    It goes through it returns the search data to GPT four and says hey, summarize the data that I’ve given you and output it as language to the user.

    So the the large language model in that case is not being leveraged for its ability to know things.

    It is being used for its ability to convert other formats of data into natural language into an out of natural language.

    Of these two approaches, I mean, they’re both good approaches, you know, perfect memory means big upfront training costs goes out of out of date really fast, but very, very fast, very, very capable.

    The interpretation version is lower upfront cost because you’re just using a language model for its language purposes, bigger infrastructure cost and bigger operating costs because there’s more machinery being used to to do the work makes the model does not know everything the model is only there to interpret.

    However, in this situation where you’re talking about tax data, accounting data, financial data, and the changes in tax regulations, you would probably want the interpreted model where you have an underlying database of some kind.

    Typically, when we’re talking about large language models, we’re talking about vector databases, you want a vector database that was constantly being primed and, and fed the accounting and tax data that you want.

    And then your language model takes in individual queries, looks first at the vector database and says, Hey, what do you know about escrow taxes? And then if it comes up with less good answers there, then we’ll ask, you know, it’ll default to asking the itself as a language model.

    But most of the time, the answer is going to come from the vector database for a given query.

    And that’s the approach I would take.

    If I was being asked to build something like this, rather than try to fine tune a model, now you might want to fine tune the model in the beginning to give it a good sense of all the language, it’s really important.

    You know, there’s gonna be terms and accounting that no one else uses.

    And you would want to make sure the model knew of them, understood them from a statistical perspective and could generate them.

    Then you would feed the model data to and from the database that contains all the current information.

    So that’s the approach.

    It’s not crazy to build one.

    It’s not crazy to build a system like this.

    It is expensive.

    It is laborious because you have to gather up all the data you want to train the model on you can’t just give it you know, five pages of stuff, you need to give it a good amount of information.

    But it’s not crazy to do it.

    And lots of people and lots of companies are building custom models or custom into integrations, hybrid models where you have a language model that does the interpretation and they have a data source that is kept up to date and clean and structured well.

    But it’s a really good question.

    Shameless plug.

    Consulting on this stuff is what my company trust insights does.

    So if you have questions about wanting to implement this kind of system, and the strategy, and maybe even the blueprint for building the system itself, hit reply, leave a comment, do something that’s because again, we’re happy to help with this.

    It’s literally one of the things that we do.

    Good question, Allison.

    Thanks for asking.

    We’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Ecological Impact of AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Ecological Impact of AI?

    In today’s episode, Mara asks about the ecological impact of AI models like chatGPT. I explain there are costs, but they can be minimized through distributed, specialized models vs massive centralized ones. There’s more research needed, but we’re heading in a sustainable direction. Tune in to learn more!

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    https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/14/1063192/were-getting-a-better-idea-of-ais-true-carbon-footprint/

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2302.13971.pdf

    https://apnews.com/article/chatgpt-gpt4-iowa-ai-water-consumption-microsoft-f551fde98083d17a7e8d904f8be822c4

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    In today’s episode, Mara asks, Could you please let me know if you’re considering preparing a newsletter on ecological cost of AI? I’m wondering about the issue and would like your take on it.

    This is a very interesting question because it’s not really well defined yet.

    We know fundamentally, that generative AI and the graphics processing units that are required to power them generally require electricity, right? They require electricity sometimes in decently sized quantities to be able to power the server farms and the server rooms that run these things.

    When you look at a company’s product like chat GPT, behind the scenes, there are a large number of data centers that the software has to run on that have to have an enormous number of GPUs graphics processing units, the same cards that allow video games to be played with very high resolution.

    And that all costs energy, right? They’ll requires energy.

    Now, a lot of the bigger tech companies, they particularly ones like Microsoft and Google, they are doing a good job of adding things like solar and wind to their facilities, so that they’re not using carbon as much.

    But there is still a carbon cost to these tools.

    How much depends on the model, how long it takes to train, and then how long what it costs to run.

    So for example, the GPT three model from open AI was estimated to have cost about 500 tons of co2.

    Facebook’s llama model, the llama two model cost 173 tons of co2.

    Now, those sound like big numbers.

    But to put it in context, a single flight from New York City to Los Angeles is 65 tons, right.

    So a plane that goes there back and there again, costs more carbon than the entirety of the llama model.

    And that means in turn, you know, yes, 173 tons is is worse than zero tons.

    But at the same time, with the 1000s and 1000s of airline flights every single day, it’s not that much extra in the big picture.

    Where we are starting to see some ecological impacts is actually on water, there’s an interesting AP News article, and I’ll put a link in the in the blog post that goes with it.

    An AP News article was talking about how much water is consumed for data centers and yet this said then think like, for what for cooling data centers that operate above in environments where the temperature is above 80 degrees Fahrenheit, which is what 2927 Celsius need to use water for cooling because the sheer amount of heat that these things generate is is impressive.

    The further into cold environments, you can build a data center, the more you can use air versus water to cool to cool the software and the hardware.

    So if you were to build, say a data center in Nome, Alaska, you wouldn’t need to use any water because it’s cold there pretty much all the time.

    There will be ecological consequences of having you know, venting a lot of heat into the atmosphere from a data center, but that’s going to be mostly localized.

    Because again, these machines themselves are not generating carbon, they’re just generating heat, they will generate carbon from dirty power sources.

    So burning oil burning coal, whatever the burning thing is, if it’s not solar wind or geological, it’s it’s creating carbon of some kind.

    The amount of water that these things use isn’t the the billions of gallons of water planet wide.

    In the same AP news article, there was a quote that said that five queries and chat GPT cost about 16 ounces of water, basically one one bottle of bottled water is used to cool the data center.

    Now, again, there are options here.

    Data centers can and should be looking at geothermal right because you dig down what 50 feet 100 feet into the ground and you’re at basically a constant at 53 Fahrenheit, which is what 53 Fahrenheit is 11 Celsius, that is more than cold enough to be able to to cool stuff as long as your geothermal network itself is big enough.

    Because obviously, if you’re cranking out huge amounts of heat, any cooling system will reach its limits.

    So there are ecological costs, the stuff is not free.

    However, this is where models like llama two from from Facebook or from meta really matter.

    When you run chat GPT with the GPT four model, that costs processing time in big compute centers.

    If you are using a tool like LM Studio, and you’re using llama two on your laptop, that’s a much lower cost is more distributed, right? You’re still using electricity.

    And the electricity using may or may not come from clean sources, but it is more distributed.

    And the more we have models like llama two that are proficient, but can be fine tuned to be best in class at very specific use cases, the less we have to run the really big models like GPT four, which have much higher ecological costs.

    So if we encourage people to continue to use open source models, to fine tune them to train them to specialize them, you will lower the environmental impact because I can run and I am running in fact, one of the llama two variants on my laptop.

    And yeah, when when I am actually using it, I can see the number of processors, the spike school a bit up, I can see the increase in power usage, but it is not it is not anywhere near the power requirements to train a model.

    So the future of an ecologically sustainable and non harmful AI program looks a lot like that where you have smaller models that are very specialized, they’re very well trained on specific tasks that consume relatively little power because they only do one or two things really well.

    And then, you know, families of foundation models that give rise to those things.

    It’s a really interesting question.

    It’s an important question.

    And it’s one that the jury is still out on just how much of an ecological cost AI opposes is not zero.

    No, it’s not zero.

    When you run llama two on your laptop, and the processor starts and the fans start going, you know, there is impact, right? It’s if your laptop is a beefy gaming laptop, when those fans start spinning, the room you’re in starts getting warmer.

    But if that can be distributed, if that can be minimized through specialization models, it’ll be better for everyone.

    So good question and important question.

    Thanks for asking.

    Talk to you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Understanding Generative AI Capabilities?

    You Ask, I Answer: Understanding Generative AI Capabilities?

    In today’s episode, Allison asks about how widely understood generative AI is right now. I explain that while the category isn’t well known, tools like ChatGPT are. I recommend focusing on capabilities over technical details when advocating adoption. There’s still more emergent potential we don’t fully grasp as the models scale up. Tune in to learn more!

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    In today’s episode, Allison asks, I agree that generative AI will affect all jobs in some way.

    But is generative AI widely understood right now? I was under the impression that the majority isn’t aware of its capabilities yet.

    What’s your recommendation in bringing up the topic of generative AI and its implementation? Okay.

    The term generative AI definitely does not have the mind share of among regular people, right? It’s very much an industry and marketing term.

    Tell someone about chat GPT.

    They will understand.

    Tell somebody about Dolly to an AI created art, they will understand those.

    The individual category leaders have a lot more brand awareness than the than the the category as a whole, right? To explain to someone transformer models or diffuser models, you’re going to get a blank blank look, like nobody knows what those are, even though those are the the technological implementations of these tools.

    The tools themselves are the ones that are leading the awareness.

    Now.

    Here’s the thing when it comes to generative AI and its implementations.

    Like many other technologies.

    No one really cares about the technology outside of the technologists, right? No one cares how many billion parameters a model has, or how many tokens it was trained on, or the model weights, things, it’s not of interest to the common person any more than the type of electric motor that is inside your blender, the magnetron inside your microwave, right? These are things that people don’t care about because it doesn’t change their implementation of the technology, right? Whether your microwave has a magnetron with six emitters or eight emitters, or whether it uses an Arduino circuit board on the inside, you don’t care, you care that when you push the popcorn button, it makes popcorn, and it does so without burning it.

    And so that’s the approach that people who are advocates for generative AI need to take into account, right? We don’t think about we don’t think about the implementation of the technology, we think about the output, we think about the results, what can this thing do for me? And that is the way to be successful with generative AI, the way to be successful with encouraging adoption is to show people, here’s what this thing can do.

    It can write this letter, it can make this picture, it can draw this graph, it can write this code.

    People get that people intuitively understand, hey, this thing can make my life easier.

    In the same way that if you’ve been churning butter all your life, and you suddenly see a high speed blender, you’re like, I want that I don’t know how it works.

    But instead of me churning butter for three and a half hours, and with a wooden stick, I can get it done in 10 minutes and get on with my day.

    That that I would say is the important thing.

    Now, here’s the other thing when it comes to capabilities, because Alicia said something really interesting.

    I was in the impression that majority are not aware of the capabilities of a generative AI.

    Most people are not aware of their capabilities.

    No one, including me, including the people writing the code, and building these things, no one knows their full capabilities because the technology is too new.

    It’s too new.

    And it’s too quickly moving and quickly changing for us to know what all the different use cases are.

    What we do know is that the tools are extremely good at language and language like operations.

    But language is such a big broad category, like what are the things you can do with language? Well, you can teach, you can give instructions, you can educate, you can entertain, you can communicate, you can tell somebody to, you know, drop a bomb on somebody else, you can tell somebody that you love them that you want to marry them.

    Language is so flexible, because it is code that we use to program each other.

    And so large language models and their ability to generate language is as flexible as we are.

    So no one knows the full capabilities of language models.

    There’s a lot of speculation.

    And there’s obviously a lot of the practical use cases use on a day to day basis.

    And they’re sort of the big categories.

    But even then, you do get these things called emergent properties, which, which are capabilities that a system exhibits that on paper, it probably should not be able to exhibit, right? If you are building a word prediction machine, what a language model really is, it conceptually shouldn’t make any difference, whether it’s got 10,000 tokens, 10 million tokens, 10 billion tokens, but what seems to keep happening is they start developing emergent behaviors like the ability to do some basic reasoning when when they they get to a sufficient amount of complexity.

    So we don’t know what the capabilities of these models are as they get bigger and bigger and bigger.

    All we know is that they are getting increasingly more complex, particularly in networks of them.

    And what they can do, we don’t know.

    So it’s an interesting question.

    It’s a good question of the ways that that these these tools are going to be changing things.

    If you want to spur adoption, it has to be around.

    Here’s what it does for you.

    And not here’s how it works.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

    Talk to you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Will AI Impact B2B Buying Process?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Will AI Impact B2B Buying Process?

    In today’s episode, Tim asks how B2B marketers should prepare for AI’s impact on the buying process. The key is strengthening your brand, establishing direct outreach channels, and building algorithm-free communities. Brand building will ensure your business stands out statistically. Direct channels like email newsletters keep you top of mind. Private communities on platforms like Slack foster meaningful connections. As AI tools continue to evolve, creatively implementing these strategies will help you stay competitive. There’s no one-size-fits-all solution, so stay nimble. Tune in for more insights on thriving amidst AI disruption.

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    In today’s episode, Tim asks, How should B2B marketers be thinking about how AI will impact the buying process? This is a big unknown.

    This is a big question mark, because we don’t know what form AI will take when it comes to impacting the buying process when it comes to helping people buy stuff, particularly your traditional B2B buying process where there’s a lot of decision makers, where there are a lot of stakeholders.

    What we do know for sure, is that machines are already doing a good job of summarizing things, right? We see this in search generative experiments within Google, we see this with Microsoft Bing, we see this, of course, with chat GPT.

    And what the machines are doing is summarizing things being able to summarize and distill down content and then provide comparisons, right? If you go to Bard or Bing or the search generative experiments, you can say, Hey, what are the major features of this software versus that software of this company versus that company? And in asking those questions, it’s going to draw from the data it has the content that it knows, and then assemble essentially a short answer.

    And so with summarization with extraction, with rewriting, these tools are essentially sort of they’re making it easier for the end user to do comparisons, they’re making it easier for the end user to wade through all of the marketing copy that we write, and turn it into shorter, more digestible content.

    That also means is rewriting our stuff.

    And that means in turn means that if there’s a particular way or voice that we speak with, that’s probably going to get lost along the way.

    So how should we be thinking about it? We should be thinking about a few different things.

    First, you do want to make sure that you’re building your brand, brand is going to be the one of the most, if not the most important thing that you can do as a marketer, B to B, B to C doesn’t matter in the age of AI, you need to have a strong brand because as AI engines become the standard as they become the way that people get information, they may not necessarily introduce you in an unbranded search, if someone’s looking for marketing and management consulting firm, they might not introduce trust insights by name unless our brand is so strong, that there’s a statistical significance to our brand plus the target concepts that we want to be known for.

    Here’s a way to think about it.

    If you were to ask a language model about a topic, it’s going to return the most statistically relevant bits and pieces of words about that topic and we’ll assemble it into coherent text.

    So if you’re entirely about, you know, pineapple on pizza, and that’s a sufficiently large enough topic that you are known for, then when someone puts in pineapple and pizza, they’re going to get a response that will probably include you.

    If you are not statistically relevant enough, if you don’t have enough presence in all the training data and all the texts that are out there on the internet, you won’t show up.

    So you’ve got to build your brand, build your brand by being everywhere, do as much as you can to be as many places as possible within the resources that you have available to you.

    So that’s one.

    Two, you need to have a way of reaching customers that is not mediated by AI.

    That typically means something like email, your email marketing, right, your email newsletter, if you are not sending out an email newsletter on a regular and frequent basis, you are, you are asking to be forgotten.

    If you can, and I know it’s it’s a lot of work.

    It’s a lot of work for me.

    It’s a lot of work for Trust Insights.

    We send out a weekly newsletter, I sent out a weekly newsletter of my own on Sundays, the company sends one out on Wednesdays.

    It’s a lot of work to put that together.

    But that weekly cadence keeps people remembering who we are.

    Monthly, not often enough, people forget and do you remember the number of companies heard from the last month? I don’t.

    And obviously, the email content has to be valuable, but email, text, direct mail, magazine subscription, anything where you can get your message to your audience in an intact format in a way that is not easy for a machine to rewrite is not easy for a machine to summarize that is not easy for a machine to aggregate and lump you with all of your competitors together, right, just a direct channel to your customer.

    And number three, you absolutely positively need to have some form of non AI mediated communities.

    So that means things like slack, for example, or discord, having a community in one of those places where chronological timeline, private place, no AI in the way.

    So not Facebook groups, not LinkedIn groups, because those are AI intermediated, and you are competing for attention with all the other stuff that’s in those algorithms, you want to have a community experience that has no algorithm has no algorithm.

    And there are, you know, plenty of other software packages out there that in B2B that people are trying to get up and running.

    But the one I would tell people today, the best platform built on his discord, and I’m not paid to say that.

    But that’s the sort of the three big things brand publication community, you’ve got to have those three pillars to impact the buying process and sidestep the impact of AI.

    Or in the case of brand make it work for you.

    It is going to be very challenging, very challenging for us as marketers to, to stand out from the crowd in an age of AI in an age of instant summarization, instant aggregation, instant comparison, in a way where what we think are our unique selling points may not be communicated by the summarization engines that that AI search tools are using or the AI knowledge bases using, we may not be we may not get that opportunity.

    So we’ve got to build our brand.

    So we’re known for something, we’ve got to have a direct line to our customers and our prospects.

    And we’ve got to have a community that is has no algorithms at all, so that we can, in, in essence, get a hold of people when we need to.

    So that is, that is the the answer to that question for today.

    At the time of this recording.

    Things may change, things may change a lot.

    It’s unclear what will change.

    But stay tuned because as soon as I know, I’ll let you know.

    Thanks for tuning in.

    We’ll talk to you next time.

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