In today’s episode, I explain why generative AI outputs can seem generic and watered down. The key is using detailed, specific prompts to provide enough context for the AI to generate high-quality, tailored content. With the right prompts, these tools can replicate writing styles, tones of voice, and target audiences. Tune in to learn how to create prompts that steer AIs away from bland, generic text.
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In this episode, let’s talk about generative AI prompts and generic outputs. One of the things that people often say about generative AI, particularly large language models is how generic the text sounds. They say, Oh, it sounds so generic. Oh, it’s bland, it’s watered down. And that’s true from a certain point of view, from a certain type of usage of these models.
The way these models work, they are nothing more than prediction engines, right? They are nothing more than predicting the next token in a sequence of tokens. And if you recall, a token is basically a three or four letter fragment of a word. So the word of would be a complete word in the token. The word answer would be two tokens a and SW is the first token and ER as the second token.
When these models do their work, they’re predicting what’s going to be the next token. The way they do this is by looking at a token or in our case, you know, conceptually a word and saying what are the statistical probabilities of the next word in the sequence if I say, I pledge allegiance to the if you’re an American, the answer should be flag, right? If I say God save the depending on the frame of reference, it’ll either be the God save the king or God save the queen, right? If you’re in the UK.
And so that’s what these engines do. They just predict the next word. The reason they work so well is because they’ve been fed a lot of words and understand the statistical relationship of all the words around a word. So it’s not just the likelihood of the next word being what it is independently, it’s within a context.
If I say I’m brewing the it could be tea, it could be coffee could be kombucha, right? It could be the fall of capitalism. Whatever the case is, is going to be dependent on all the words around it. So if in the previous paragraph, I’m mentioning things like oolong, or Jasmine or Earl Gray, the presence of those words creates a statistical association for these tools to say, okay, you’re probably talking about tea. So the next word in the sentence, I’m brewing the statistically probably is going to be tea.
If I say, talking about Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts or Arabica versus robusta beans, there’s a good chance I’m talking about coffee, right. So the next word predicted would be coffee. I’m talking about hops and grain and mash, I’m probably talking about beer. That’s how these tools work.
So if you are getting generic outputs from your prompts, the problem is your prompt, the problem is that you are not being detailed enough in your prompt to be able to have the tool generate the outcome you want. These tools can generate very, very specific writing styles, tones of voice, specific content, but you’ve got to give them enough data to work with.
If you’re trying to have it replicate, say your writing style, you need to provide a lot of your writing style for it to understand – one blog post won’t cut it. You need to be thinking about 10 2030 1000 words of your writing style from in different formats, email, blog content, articles, interviews, so that the tool can can say, Okay, well, what are all the statistical associations in this large body of text, and that will capture what your probable writing style is.
The other thing that these tools are really good at is if you give them a target audience, maybe some words or phrases or paragraphs or documents, but here’s who our audience is. It then has additional data, additional associations that can make to be able to generate text that meets that need.
This is one of the secrets I talked about this recently on the Trust Insights live stream. This is one of the secrets to making tools like Claude to or chat GPT or whatever, deliver really high quality content, particularly sales content. If you feed these tools a lot of data, and they understand the outcome of what you’re trying to achieve, they will process that data really well – a two sentence prompt doesn’t cut it a two page prompt. Now you’re starting to get somewhere.
I did something recently where I took the LinkedIn profiles of 10 of our best customers. And I said, Okay, well help me construct a buyer persona. I’m providing all the data I’m providing a very specific focus. And I’m asking the tool to find associations and summarizations to distill out what a buyer persona is. It’s very straightforward to do that you can do that today with the tools that can handle more text GPT for and Claude to can handle a lot of text at a time.
So if you’re getting generic outputs, it’s because you’re putting in generic inputs. I there’s there’s no polite way of saying that it’s interesting. It’s, it’s almost the opposite of SEO. In SEO, we create text with keywords and phrases and things where we are trying to capture the most commonly used terms, right? best coffee shop in Boston, and so on and so forth.
With these large language models, using generic terms, highly searched terms is going to lead to highly generic outcomes, right? Because best coffee shop in Boston is not particularly specific. See, if you said write a blog post about the best coffee shop in Boston, you’re going to get some very generic stuff because mathematically, it’s pulling from all of the probabilities around each of those words.
If you said, write a blog post about the best coffee shop in Boston that serves a single shot espresso that is made with only beans from Kenya. Now you’re getting a lot more specific and what’s happening is instead of that big pool of probabilities, every relevant word you add to prompt narrows the pool down, right? It shrinks the pool of eligible words eligible predictions it can make. When you do that, you end up with better text, you end up with better outputs.
So if you like, there’s too many boring words, add more words to your prompt that are very specific. Look at things like jargon, what are phrases that only people in your audience will say, I used to work in the financial aid world. There’s a piece of paper was used to be paper now it’s online, a document that the US federal government publishes called the FAFSA, the free application for federal student aid. Nobody talks about the FAFSA in any context, other than financial aid for college, right is not something you discuss on a Friday night for fun is not something that you that comes up in casual conversation, it is always about that topic.
And so that’s an example where you have a term that is so context specific. So it’s a piece of jargon that any language model will see that go, okay, this is a piece about financial aid, if you’re saying the word FAFSA, this is about financial aid. That’s what you got to do. That’s how you use these tools is you take these tools, and you give them very specific wording, the more relevant and specific words in your prompts, the better they will perform, the less generic they will be.
And if you give them things to copy, like your writing style, you will get better results. That’s the way it is with these tools. So give that a try. If you’re not happy with the outputs you’re getting from these these large language models and recognize that your prompts might need to be depending on the task you’re asking them, they might need to be pages long.
Now you might say, Well, then what’s the point? I could write that myself. Yes, you could write one post by yourself. The point is, if you want to be able to scale your content creation, then you invest the time upfront to build long, detailed, highly specific prompts so that then the tool can replicate and scale and do more without you once it understands who you are.
Anyway, that’s the topic for today. Thanks for tuning in. We’ll talk to you next time. If you like this video, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
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In today’s episode, I discuss some of the most overlooked use cases for AI in business today. Rather than just generation, these powerful models can audit documents, data, and processes to find anomalies, improve quality, and ensure compliance. I explore how AI can analyze financials, check privacy policies, and even perform sensitivity reads on content. Don’t miss this insightful look at tapping into AI’s comparative abilities.
You Ask, I Answer: Untapped Use Cases for AI in Business?
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In today’s episode, Ashley asks, “In your opinion, what are some of the untapped use cases for AI in businesses today?”
So there’s a couple of different use cases that people aren’t paying enough attention to because they’re being distracted by the shiny objects, particularly with larger context models now. So for example, the GPT series from OpenAI can handle a context window of anywhere from 16,000 to 32,000 tokens. A token is essentially a three or four letter fragment of a word. So 16,000 tokens, or any number tokens, is basically 66% of that is words. So if you have 16,000 tokens, you have about 11,000 words. If you have 32,000 tokens, you have about 20,000 words to work with.
Most of our business documents don’t clock in much higher than that. If you look at Claude from Anthropic that has 100,000 token context window, which boils down to about 60,000 words. Most books don’t have that, at least in business books. And that gives you the ability to prompt these artificial intelligence pieces of software to do both transformative work.
And I think the one that’s really overlooked is auditing work. Now we’ve all done some basic auditing tasks with these large language models, we’ve had them do things like fix spelling or fix your grammar or reformat the text to be more aesthetically pleasing to be more readable.
So we don’t really think of these tools as auditing tools in the sense of let’s do have a large language model do analysis on it. Again, a tool like Claude or GPT-4 can do extensive analysis on large amounts of data. And it doesn’t just have to be plain text, it can be PDFs, it can be spreadsheets, it can be, you know, any machine readable text format.
Think about this, if you were to put in say, all of your income, of your income tax forms into a large language model, and say here is the known tax code. So the time maybe you could even feed in the tax code or the sections that apply to you. Find irregularities, find anomalies, find opportunities to save money, right?
That auditing capability is something that large language models are capable of doing. But most people don’t think to do that. You can take, for example, your checkbook register from your bank, you can turn that into a CSV file, hand it to a large language model, you want to make sure the privacy settings are set so that they’re not recording your data. And then say, identify where I’m wasting money every single month. And it can look at your accounting data and say, “Okay, here are some possible candidates for things that don’t seem to make a whole lot of sense.”
These tools are very good at auditing in the sense of looking for fraud. Hey, here’s, again, a list of customer purchases. And you can say here are the ones that seem a little anomalous, you know, validate your sense of probability that this is a fraudulent transaction.
Auditing tools that are that are based in large language models are probably the most untapped opportunity these tools have to offer, because everyone’s so focused on them being generative and generative AI. It’s cool, right? You can make blog posts and news articles and newsletters and things that’s great, you should.
But they’re the mathematics underneath these models make them better at comparison than generation. So if you say here is my transactional data, compare it to known best practices for double entry bookkeeping. These tools can do that these tools can do that and say here are the anomalies, here are the things that don’t make sense.
Here is my website’s privacy policy. Tell me is this GDPR compliant? And if it’s not, what do I need to fix? Here is an ebook I just wrote. Read it as a sensitivity reader, tell me where I’ve said things are written things that would be culturally insensitive or problematic or biased.
All of these auditing capabilities things people are just not looking at nearly enough. And there’s tremendous value in that in helping us refine the work that we’ve already done, helping us identify problems, helping us elevate the quality of our work.
You know, these are essentially editors and proofreaders and inspectors and auditors who can look at our work independently and offer data driven opinions. Now, will they always be right? No. If it’s something that’s mission critical, please have a qualified professional, you know, do so. Look at it.
But these are some of the use cases, I think people are really missing out on they’re really just not paying enough attention and missing the benefits of some of these large language models. It’s a really good question. There’s a lot to explore. There’s a lot of different ways we can use these tools to to our benefit in a comparative sense rather than a generative sense, even though these models are capable of both.
So thanks for the question. We’ll talk to you soon. If you’d like this video, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
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I think I’ve answered the “Will AI take your job?” question more times in the past week than in the past 6 months. Part of that was because I was on a bunch of podcasts, and part of that was the headlines, the news stories of the week. The Screen Actors Guild-American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (SAG-AFTRA) went on strike this week. One of the points of contention for SAG-AFTRA – that they share with the Writers’ Guild of America – is their concerns about whether AI will take their jobs.
So let’s have a nuanced discussion about the topic, because it isn’t as clear-cut as many folks would like it to be. I talked to one person who was steadfast that we should only remain positive about AI, and another person who believes it to be an existential threat to humanity. The truth is somewhere in between.
AI, as it stands today in mid-2023, isn’t going to be taking anyone’s job. Even the most sophisticated models and ensembles cannot do the disparate parts of most jobs. AI is quite capable of doing specific tasks, and doing those tasks well. Those capabilities increase every day; this week, Anthropic released its Claude-2 model which is a huge leap forward for large language models. With a 100,000 token context window-
Okay, probably should explain that part. A context window is effectively how much a large language model can remember at any given time in the context of a specific conversation. If you’ve used smaller models like GPT-J-6B, the old GPT-3, and many of the open source models, you know that these models have relatively short memories. You can be talking to them about something and in the span of a few paragraphs, it’s like they’ve forgotten what they were talking about. That context window is the working memory. Older models and open source models have context windows of about 2,000 tokens. Tokens are word fragments; on average, 100 tokens equals about 66 words, or about 2/3 the token size. A model that has a context window of 2,000 tokens can remember about 1,300 words, give or take.
That means if you get into a lengthy conversation that’s more than a page of text, the model starts to lose its memory. Details you discussed previously it will suddenly not know. And that can be really frustrating if you’re working with documents longer than a page.
The current OpenAI models in ChatGPT support context windows of up to 16,000 tokens for GPT-3.5-Turbo (which is the default model for ChatGPT) or up to 32,000 tokens for GPT-4 in the paid version of ChatGPT. If you do the math, that means ChatGPT and software based on its underlying models can handle about 10,000 words at a time for the default model and around 20,000 words at a time for the paid version. That makes for more satisfying conversations, more capabilities, longer content creation, the works. Bigger context windows, all other things being equal, tend to be better.
So when Anthropic released its GPT-4 competitor, Claude 2, with a 100,000 token context window – equal to about 66,000 words – that was a very big deal. You could feed it an entire business book or fiction work as a prompt, for example, and tell the model to rewrite the entire book in the style of Ernest Hemingway.
What does this all have to do with your job? The bigger and more capable models get, the more tasks they can handle. Every time we have a big leap forward in model capabilities, that opens the door for us to hand off more tasks to AI. Does your book draft need a sensitivity reader or a first-pass editor? Feed it to a model with a suitably large context window and have it do the initial work. Do you want to rewrite a work of fiction you wrote in one universe to another universe? The largest models can handle that task. Do you want to write thousands of lines of code? Also doable. In fact, GPT-4’s Code Interpreter, which I wrote about earlier this week, is absolutely mind-melting in how good it is.
What we – and by we, I mean most AI practitioners – have been saying for quite some time now is that AI isn’t going to take your job, but a person skilled with AI will take the job of a person who isn’t skilled with AI. That’s… sort of true. Again, there’s nuance. There are some jobs, some content creation jobs, where AI will absolutely take that job if it’s valuable enough to do so. This week, SAG-AFTRA reported that the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) allegedly included in their negotiating points, this:
“This ‘groundbreaking’ AI proposal that they gave us yesterday, they proposed that our background performers should be able to be scanned, get one day’s pay, and their companies should own that scan, their image, their likeness and should be able to use it for the rest of eternity on any project they want, with no consent and no compensation. So if you think that’s a groundbreaking proposal, I suggest you think again.” – Duncan Crabtree-Ireland, chief negotiator for SAG-AFTRA
Now, no one seems to be able to produce the actual document where this is written, but the perspective alone is worth considering. Yes, with today’s technology, it is possible to scan a person’s likeness and re-use that person in perpetuity. I should hope anyone in the entertainment industry has a good enough lawyer to look for that clause in a contract and amend it appropriately. But for background talent, our technology is getting good enough that background actors (also known as extras) can be largely synthetic anyway. That job – a person milling around in the background – is one that AI absolutely can do. If you haven’t already seen Unreal Engine’s Metahuman Creator (here’s a short film made entirely with the tech), you should. It’s uncanny how good the generated humans look – more than good enough to synthesize a background actor wandering down a street or standing on a corner looking at their phone.
So yes, there are some instances where AI will take someone’s job. Let’s now talk about the second part, the idea that someone skilled with AI will take the job of someone who is not. This is true, but there’s an additional dimension at play here.
AI is a force multiplier. It lets you be more of you, it amplifies your human capabilities. A good writer, with the help of AI, becomes a prolific good writer. A good painter, with the help of AI, becomes a prolific good painter. AI works best when someone who has subject matter expertise can craft the necessary prompt details to bring out the specifics that only an expert would know. For everyone else, it adds to our capabilities, gives us capabilities that we don’t have.
For example, in a recent Discord chat, some friends of mine were celebrating two members of our community becoming a couple. One of them has an avatar of a blue frog. The other has an avatar of a trash can (don’t ask). In the conversation, someone joked that they needed a combined profile picture of some kind. Naturally, I hopped over to Bing Image Creator and gave it the appropriate prompt to generate:
AI gave me a capability I don’t have. I’m not an artist. I don’t generate art like this. The software, however, enabled me to become a good enough artist to fulfill the requirements in that moment. Is it great art? No. Could a human artist, a skilled artist, have done better? Yes.
Is it good enough? Yes.
AI is a force multiplier. Which in turn means it allows one person to do the work of more than one person. A writer, empowered with AI, can do the work of more than one writer who doesn’t have AI capabilities. How much more? It depends, but it’s not unreasonable to believe that it’s multiples – 2, 3, 5, maybe even 10 people. Which means if you’re, say, a content marketing production agency or company, you could either scale your business 2, 3, 5, or 10x if there’s enough business to be had, or alternately reduce headcount by 2, 3, 5, or even 10x depending on the content you create and how skilled your writers are.
This is the part we’re not totally being honest about when we say a person skilled with AI will take the job of a person not skilled with AI. It’s not a one-to-one ratio. Depending on the job, it could be a many-to-one ratio.
Now, is it all doom and gloom? No. For every job AI consumes, it will create ripple effects, which we’ve talked about in the past. You might lose 90% of your writers but then you have to hire 10x your number of editor, or promoters, or distributors, etc. A massive change in efficiency in one part of your supply chain will have upstream and downstream effects on the rest of the supply chain.
But there will be impacts that are greater than the optimists are predicting, and lesser than the nihilists are predicting.
So what? What’s the antidote, what’s the strategy, what’s the play to keep you safe? It’s what we’ve been saying all along – the person skilled with AI takes the jobs of people not skilled with AI. Right now, things are still in flux. The market isn’t settled yet. There isn’t a calcified hegemony in place with permanent winners and losers. That means there’s still time for you to carve out your niche, as an AI-empowered worker no matter what industry you’re in. That window is closing, but you still have time to skill up, to learn, to explore, and to be a leader in your space.
The AMPTP may not hire background actors in the future, but they will absolutely hire someone skilled at Unreal Engine to build metahuman background talent for productions. You want to be that person.
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Evan Kirstel, a B2B tech influencer, recently interviewed Christopher Penn, Chief Data Scientist at TrustInsights.ai, on his podcast. They discussed the rise of generative AI and its potential impact on marketing and other industries.
Penn has been involved with analytics and data science for over a decade. He got interested in AI around 2017 with advances in deep learning. The latest breakthroughs in transformer architectures like GPT-3 have enabled generative AI models that can write, summarize, translate and more.
There are many startups building products on top of models like GPT-3, but Penn believes most will fail unless they add unique value. He focuses on use cases and open source tools that give more control vs relying on third party services.
For marketers worried about losing their jobs, Penn says AI won’t replace jobs directly. However, people skilled at using AI will be far more productive than those who aren’t. Marketers need to skill up and integrate AI into their workflows to avoid displacement.
Penn sees the biggest near-term impact of AI in improving marketing operations. It can help with scheduling, email, status updates and other repetitive tasks. But he cautions against overusing it just to generate more content.
His advice for young professionals is to develop cross-disciplinary thinking, which AI still struggles with. Taking varied classes in literature, history, etc. builds the nuanced understanding of humanity that AI lacks. But everyone also needs to learn how to use AI tools.
Penn predicts quantum computing will eventually lead to machine consciousness, but not for at least 5-10 years with today’s AI architectures. He expects job losses but also new roles where humans are still preferred. Climate change is a larger concern than AI in the next decade.
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Evan: Hey, everyone. Super excited for this chat today with Rockstar, with legendary author, content creator, analyst, data scientist, Christopher Penn. Chris, how are you?
Christopher: You know, I can’t complain. It is, it’s 2023. Everything seems, you know, I just got through Fourth of July, I can still count to 10 on my hands. We’re all good.
Evan: It is good. And this is a special Boston area edition, where both in Boston know that we haven’t seen each other in five, six, seven years. So it takes, you know, social media to bring us back together again.
For those few folks who don’t know who you are, maybe share your journey into becoming a marketing data scientist, keynote speaker, author, etc. And we’re going to dive into AI, which I’m particularly excited about.
Christopher: Yeah, I mean, I started in it. So in the late 90s, and in the early 2000s, I was in it. And then in the 2000s, as many folks know, it became marketing technology.
And I sort of had my career pivoted to go with that, you know, running send mail on a Linux server became, you know, send the email newsletter, and so on and so forth.
And then in the early 2010s, I moved out of the financial services company, I was in into a PR agency. And one of the things that I got started there with was taking my experience in analytics and starting to move it into data science.
And of course, that logically gave way to artificial intelligence and machine learning mostly. So you have things like hell, how much traffic to the client’s website get? Well, let’s can we create a forecast model, you know, using at the time, a Rima and Arma and all those things. Classical algorithms. And over the last 10 years, AI has evolved. Shockingly, we first have had huge growth with deep learning with things like multi layer perceptrons and stuff.
And then really, the thing that has seems to have launched into the stratosphere, it was a 2017 paper called Attention is all you need, which is was the release of the transformer architecture, and alongside at the diffuser architecture.
So these two AI fundamental foundational technologies came out in 2017. And since then, they have been the underpinnings of everything you’re seeing with stuff like chat GPT and Dolly and stable diffusion, you know, AI created art and writing and poetry and all this stuff, all that’s predicated on those two architectures.
Evan: Absolutely. And it’s the most exciting time to be a content creator. And you must be every day must be like a kid in the candy store for you, in particular as such a practitioner. Before we jump into that, tell me about your content, you have a weekly newsletter, it’s highly praised.
You have AI for marketers, which are practical applications for AI in marketing, what else what did I miss? I there’s so much stuff that we create.
Christopher: So I’ve got two podcasts, one is marketing over coffee, which has been on the air since 2007.
That’s a weekly show. And then the In Ear Insights podcast is the trust insights podcast also weekly, and then there’s a Thursday live stream called So What the marketing analytics insights live show, which is the company live stream. So there’s making content all the time, following a strategy that my friend and former CEO Todd Deferon talked about way back in 2008. The idea of content atomization, where you make a piece of content, you break it up into more content.
But we really pivoted I pivoted, starting in about 2016 2017, to being video first, because video is the richest channel that has the most information. And then from video, you can take, you know, snippets and make Instagram reels or whatever. But you can take the audio and now you’ve got a podcast, you can take the audio and put it through pieces of transcription software. Now you’ve got text. And now with generative AI, you can take that text and have it summarized into blog posts, into emails into social media posts. There’s so many different ways to take one piece of video content and just break it up into all these pieces that you it really is the best way to generate a lot of content. And then with AI in your pocket is you know, that’s a force multiplier that allows you to really dramatically accelerate the amount of the total number of pieces of content you can create, and then publish where, wherever your audience wants you to be.
Evan: That’s a wonderful tactic and best practice. So when degenerative AI could have come onto your radar, and how have you managed to consume all of this frenzy of news and updates and analysis and startups and applications that are just coming out of the woodwork? I mean, it’s really hard to analyze what’s going on as it’s not just about barred or chat GPT or open AI, there is a thousand flowers blooming at the moment.
Christopher: There are 1000 flowers blooming and 990 of them will wither and die in six months.
Evan: Thanks for that optimistic note. I was kidding.
Christopher: It’s like any, any startup, there’s a tremendous number of companies now that are essentially just a UI on someone else’s technology, right? There’s not a whole lot of compelling value proposition above and beyond that those companies that survive will find some way to add value above and beyond what you can do. But you know, my my journey with generative AI started around 2020. When opening, I released a model called GPT two back then, I think it was GPT two.
Evan: Wow, you were you were early on as a marketeer.
Christopher: Because it caught my eye that this thing could generate text. And then you had a illithra AI is GPT j 6b model, the 6 billion parameter model. And that was sort of the beginning of the open source, large language model revolution. And these two things have kind of marched in parallel. And you start seeing more and more growth from you know, these models, you’re seeing very large models coming out of big tech companies, you know, Facebook has released its llama model, Google has palm two, of course, open AI has the GPT for 3.5 and for family anthropic has clawed to now. But then you also in parallel have this huge ecosystem of open source projects. So Facebook open source, the llama model to the community and that has created 1000s 1000s of new models, you know, derivatives and things that people have created forks, there’s wizard LM.
The way I think about the technologies and how to keep them organized, how to catatune through the clutter is twofold one. I look for use cases. Like what, what do we want to do with this stuff? Like a real simple example, we’re, we’re talking you and I right now in on a live stream. If either one of us says something notable, we’d want to make know that so we want to maybe to get this transcribed suit. So then okay, well, what AI technologies is operating in the transcription space whisper which is open AI is open source product is by the way, a phenomenal product. It’s one that I’m writing it down. Another tip from Chris Ben. It’s free. It’s open source that runs on your laptop, which is as long as you’ve got a good enough laptop or any any laptop you can play good video games on you can use this technology. And then it does the transcription for free.
So yeah, you have all these services like you know, you know, whatever dollars for how many minutes like now I’m just going to run it locally on my machine and you know you and you can just do crazy stuff with that. So transcription makes a logical outcome from our conversation. And then summarization makes a logical outcome. So I’d want to look at AI model that had can handle what 45 minutes and hours worth of conversation and boil that down and maybe post but also have the original text. So now I need to think about okay, well, how what kinds of technologies can handle that much text? A good example, that would be anthropics, Claude to model which got released yesterday. This can handle 100,000 tokens at a time which if you’re not familiar with, you know, AI terminology, that’s about 65 70,000 words.
Evan: Wow. So yeah, breaking new ground here supply chain and marketing are not two things typically get taught in the same sentence. Fascinating. You know, talking about you do a lot of educating people like me or your your clients and beyond but what would you give as advice to young people who are looking at marketing and wondering how this career is going to be affected by gen AI and just generally how do they get ahead of this wave beyond you know, obviously consuming all of your content and others? What advice would you have for them in their 20s perhaps?
Christopher: So there’s there’s a couple of things that machines really don’t do well and won’t do well for a while. One of which is they are very, they’re still not very good cross disciplinary thinkers that even with the largest language models, they still don’t exhibit truly emergent cross disciplinary thinking. So it’s very difficult for them to come up with things that humans do through our intentionally flawed memory mechanisms, right? When you’re trying to think of what to create, creating is inherently tied to memory and our memories are flawed in that we only tend to remember things that are high emotional valence, right? We don’t I don’t remember what I had for lunch two weeks ago on Thursday. It was not something that made a huge emotional impact on me. Do I remember what I had for for dinner at my wedding? Sure do. Because it was a very emotionally key thing.
So our memories are tied to emotion machines don’t have that machines have essentially perfect memory. But part of perfect memory means that no one memory is more important than other memories. And so when it creates is not creating in the same way that humans do it is our our dependence on emotion that creates memory loss. And that memory loss is what allows true creativity to kind of fill in the gap. Machines will get there. There’s early work and doing this, but it’s still not quite the same.
So if you are a young professional, or you’re maybe you’re in school right now, you need to be looking at having as many cross disciplinary experiences as possible. Like, take that 19th century French literature class take that, you know, intro to Islam class, take all these things that will give you a better and more nuanced understanding of humanity, because humanity is what the machines are calibrating towards and there, it’s very difficult for them to do that. Because we are such weird creatures.
The second thing is you’re this is an acknowledgement, everyone has to get skilled up on the use of these AI tools, you have to know it because the number here’s the part that folks don’t want to talk about the jobs that are going to be affected the most are the entry level jobs, right? If you have someone whose job is just writing press releases, say at a PR agency, well, guess what, the machines can do that in almost entirely now. So you don’t need humans to do that anymore. We do need humans to edit it to QA it to like, hey, you made up a quote from a CEO doesn’t exist. This is probably not something we should do here. But there will be far fewer jobs available at the entry level because machines will be doing so many more of them. So if you are one again, if you’re one of those people who are skilled with AI, and your peers are not, you have an advantage, you will be one of the people who, you know, a hiring manager will say, Well, you know, why should I hire you versus having a machine do it, you could say because I am good at working the machines. And I can dramatically increase your productivity and your results, whereas all the other people who are competing for the same job, they can’t do that. And this is every field.
What happened this past week was just absolutely stunning. Open AI opened up code interpreter, which is part of the GPU for the system in the paid version of chat GPT code interpreter is the dumbest name for the most brilliant product ever. It is a junior data scientist is what it really is. You can take for example, you could export, say your personal finance, maybe export your bank account data, right in a CSV file, and you insert it into code interpreter, be sure to turn off logging so that you’re not handing open a higher financial data. But then you say, run a financial analysis on this data. And tell me, you know, where am I wasting my money every month, and it will go through and it will write code, Python code to do that, and then show you the analysis it does, right?
So if you are a person who is skilled with these tools, you can fill a ton of different entry level roles, think about, you know, bookkeeping, you with the help of code interpreter could be a good novice, you know, no, no years experience bookkeeper in the workforce with this tool, even though you never went to school for it, because the machine is good enough at that junior level task. So everyone needs to understand this stuff. But people who are junior in their careers, most, they need to understand the most of all, because they will be far fewer positions available.
Evan: Great point. I hope folks are listening and taking note. You’ve given us so much wisdom and insight, but any anecdotal stories or case studies of maybe your clients or otherwise who’ve been using generative AI really effectively in their marketing campaigns or in content. I mean, we’re all using it to some degree, but where is it having the most impact? Would you say the most impact is having right now is in marketing operations, right?
Chris: It is in being able to help people do their jobs faster. Everything from, you know, building schedules and calendars, replying to emails, creating commodity content, like here’s our status update.
One of the places we use it, every, every reporting period of one of our clients is we take in hundreds and hundreds of pieces of feedback from one of our clients, website survey systems, where as you know, simple satisfaction surveys, and we say, Okay, summarize this content into the top five categories in the top five, top five positive and top five negative categories of feedback for the customer’s website. And so instead of having to read literally 22,000 pieces of feedback every month for this client, they can look at the top five issues, positive and negative and the percentages, and the machine is summarizing all the stuff so well and so easily that allows them to make decisions very, very quickly.
So op as much as people like, Oh, yeah, generate infinite amounts of content, like, yes, you can. But that’s kind of like taking, you know, a Porsche 911 to the grocery store, like, yeah, it does the job, but it’s kind of overkill. But in operations in streamlining and giving you access to stuff is where it really shines. The other place that it shines and is so underused is in professional development. People don’t think of these tools as professional development and training tools. And they are exactly that. I’ll give you an example. In large language models, there’s these two concepts called parameters and weights, the number of parameters that a model has in the model weights. And if you read the technical explanations about it, it’s like, okay, this is, you know, here’s how these things are calculated. And here’s the mathematics. And for a lot of people, that explanation just goes into slides right off their brain, right?
Go into a tool like chat GPT, for example, and say, explain within the context of large language models, parameters and weights in terms of pizza. And it will say, if a large language model is a pizza, the parameters, the variety of the ingredients of toppings, and the weights are how many of each topping there is like, Oh, I get it now. Now I can speak intelligently about this. If you’ve been in a meeting or at a conference or any place where you don’t want to ask a question out loud, because like, Oh, God, everyone’s gonna think I’m dumb, right? You know, my team should think I will think I should know this already. You just pull up your phone, you type the question into chat GPT and say, explain this to me and then five minutes they’re like, now I know what you’re talking about. And I can participate in this meeting again. It is such an underrated tool for helping people get up to speed very quickly.
Evan: Oh, such great advice. As we wrap up here, let’s take a look a bit longer out maybe five years, give us maybe an upside and a downside scenario, best case worst case on how we might be living in five years with generative AI in our daily lives. What do you think? Couple predictions.
Christopher: I can’t even tell you five months, right? If you think about it, chat GPT was released in November of last year has not even been a full year. And this this circus train has just gone, you know, off the rails and into the sky. We’ve got, you know, models popping up everywhere. We’ve got thousands of new companies, we have all sorts of crazy emergent properties happening in the largest models. I have no clue. What I can say is this, the current architectures will not permit true consciousness, right? It will not permit machines to be self aware, this is computationally not possible with the current today’s architectures. The system that will allow that is quantum computing. Because quantum computing is essentially the way they work is massively parallel like our brains, right? Like the gray matter in here, we are our brains are essentially really slow, but extremely complex parallel processors. Quantum computing allows that but at a much faster pace, assuming we can stabilize them right now that about 1000 qubits or so, which is like 1000 brain cells. And you have like billions, if not trillions of brain cells in your head that create that that interlinking complexity creates emergent properties like consciousness. Once quantum computing finally gets up to speed and can start tackling things like language models, then you have the conditions for consciousness.
In terms of what’s likely to happen, we can count on two sets of properties that are going to be consistent, right? Everybody wants better, faster and cheaper. So if you’re wondering about the motivations of any company in its use of AI, it’s going to want those things, right? And people are generally greedy, stupid and horny. So we can expect that any product that serves those things, those those human impulses is going to do well, then people will use AI for those applications, whether you want them to or not. There will be substantial job losses, but there will also be substantial job creations. As people find services in places and things where machines don’t work well, there’s a new service, for example, in Japan, someone whose job it is to help you quit working at a company because of complex personal relationships, like that’s a service. It clearly is.
The big thing that in a five to 10 year time span, that is a much greater, more pressing problem that people need to be planning for now, in terms of supply chain and business continuity, is climate change, climate change is happening so fast. We’re in what is essentially a an accelerating feedback loop. As things get warmer, things that create conditions for increasing warmth get worse. There’s a whole bunch of methane trapped in the permafrost around the Arctic Circle, and methane, methane deposits essentially in the ocean. As the planet warms up, this gets released, which creates warming even faster. And there’s not a whole lot, you know, that to stop that particular train. As a result, things like these wildfires that we’ve been having wildfires are going to be getting worse, they’ll be around longer, they’ll be much bigger. And so even something as simple as you know, all those masks that we bought for for the pandemic, we’re going to want to have them on hand, because that’s how you block at least the particulates from from wildfires, but all the supply chain stuff we’ve been seeing rippling since the pandemic was going to continue, it’s going to get worse.
So companies need to be thinking about from a business continuity perspective, a, how can I build redundancy and safety in my supply chain? And B, how can I use technology to communicate faster with my my stakeholders, my customers and things so that they are informed faster, I can keep customers happier for longer, knowing that it’s going to be more and more challenging to provide physical goods and services.
Evan: Oh, such a great point. I was just talking to a big telecom customer of mine this morning, who is using drones and third party fire detection apps to actually detect fires before they spread and to deploy drones auto magically to, to put them out. I mean, so the use of AI and drones and 5g and IoT and all this tech is coming together for good. What’s been such a delight chatting with you? What are you what are you up to the rest of the summer? Personally, professionally? Any any travel ahead?
Christopher: Oh, tons of travel. So in a couple weeks, I’ll be in Cleveland for the marketing AI conference. So I’ll be keynoting that talking about large language models. And then in September, I’ve got a like, I’ve got one week or there’s four different events that week. So there’s content, jam, content marketing world, marketing analytics and data science conference and a private event. And then I’ve been doing a lot of private talks at companies just trying to help these companies get up to get their employees up to speed on generative AI as quickly as possible. So that’s been that’s been sort of the bulk of the speaking stuff is, you know, hour long workshop, hour long talks are six hour workshops internally at companies to say like, hey, let’s get your team up to speed. Let’s show you this stuff. But in a big version of a talk that’s customized for your industry. So you can see how you would apply this today, like your telecom company, client, for example, yeah, you would show a ton of examples. Like here’s how you would use voice the customer data from your call center to guide your marketing strategy, like how you would create marketing copy from the voice of the customer, because it resonates better when customers see the language that they would be using themselves rather than what a marketer came up with, which may or may not even be true.
Evan: Wonderful advice. Thank you so much for spending time with us the and thank you the audience here for watching. Reach out to Chris @cspenn on Twitter and beyond. Thanks so much.
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Artificial intelligence (AI) is rapidly changing the field of marketing, enabling marketers to be more productive and effective. In a recent podcast, host Michael Stelzner interviewed AI expert Christopher Penn about how generative AI can benefit marketers. Here are some of the key takeaways:
AI tools like ChatGPT can help generate marketing content like social media posts, email campaigns, and blog articles. While the quality may not yet match human-written content, these tools enable faster content creation and can help overcome writer’s block.
AI excels at summarizing large amounts of text. It can distill key points from transcripts, meeting notes, and long articles. This allows for quick review and extraction of critical information.
Rewriting content is another application for AI. It can refine and enhance rough drafts as well as rewrite content in different tones and styles. This provides flexibility and efficiency.
AI question answering capabilities enable conversational interfaces for customer service and marketing. With training, AI agents can handle common customer FAQs as well as more complex queries.
For extracting data and insights, AI is very capable. It can quickly analyze piles of data like tweets or transcripts to identify key entities, relationships, and themes.
Creating customized AI models allows for industry- and company-specific applications. With open source options now available, more businesses can fine tune AI to their unique needs.
Autonomous AI agents present new opportunities as well as risks. While able to work independently towards goals, ethical constraints are still a work in progress.
The key for marketers is developing AI skills and experience. With the right training, AI allows individuals and teams to accomplish more in less time. Though AI won’t completely replace human marketers soon, skills and roles will need to adjust to this new technology.
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Michael: If you’re a marketer, I think the best expression I’ve heard of this is, “AI is not going to take your job. A person skilled with AI is going to take the job of a person who is not skilled with AI.”
Today, I’m very excited to be joined by Chris Penn. If you don’t know who Chris is, you need to know Chris. He is a data scientist and author of AI for Marketers. He’s also the co-founder of TrustInsights, a consultancy that helps brands with analytics and AI. He also founded the TrustInsights Academy and his podcast, which has been around for a very long time, is Marketing Over Coffee.
Chris, welcome back to the show. How are you doing today?
Chris: Thank you for having me. I’m having a great time.
Michael: Just out of curiosity, how long has Marketing Over Coffee been around?
Chris: 16 years.
Michael: Dang! That’s crazy.
Well, Chris has a lot of insights and today we’re going to explore AI for marketers and we’re going to get on some fascinating rabbit holes. I guess my first question, Chris, is we’re recording this in the middle of May and this is going to come out about a month later, but there are still a lot of marketers that are not paying attention to AI and for whatever reason, maybe they’re not sold on the value proposition of what it could do for them. Maybe you could explore the benefits and we’ll get into the concerns, obviously, that they have next, but what’s the possible upside as to why maybe they ought to listen to what we’re going to talk about today?
Chris: Sure. There’s three branches of AI. There’s regression, classification and generation. Regression is something that marketers have had access to for a long time. If you use Google Analytics and you’ve said, “Hey, show me my attribution model. What’s working for me?” That is essentially regression and it’s super powerful for identifying, “Hey, I’ve got a bunch of data and I’ve got this outcome. What’s leading to this outcome?” If you’re a social media marketer and you want to know which social media channels are working best, you may have heard of marketing mix modeling or media mix modeling. That’s all regression-based AI.
The second category is classification. Again, this is a very classical AI. You’ve got a bunch of data. What’s in the box? If you ever downloaded a few million tweets at a time and you’re like, “Okay, I need to classify these things because it’s just a huge pile of stuff I’ve got in my customer service inbox. I’m in my favorite social media monitoring software. I’ve just got this pile of stuff,” and you would use AI to organize it to say, “Okay, what is in this data? How do I sort it so that I can make use of it?”
The third category, which is the one that’s got everyone’s attention today, is generative AI, where you now have machines that can make stuff, images, sound, text, video. I just watched Coca-Cola’s first AI-generated commercial. It was very well done. Very well done. I’m not 100% convinced it’s fully AI-generated, but definitely the majority of it is. Each of these areas has benefits. Regression is all about, “Help me do my job better. Help me find answers.” Classification is, “Help me make sense of the data that I have.” And generation is, “Help me create and do more with the information that I have.” Marketers really probably want all three.
Michael: Yeah. Why? What’s the upside for them, especially on the generative stuff? Because that’s the hot stuff today.
Chris: It comes down to, people want, generally speaking, people want to save money, they want to save time and they want to make money. When you think about saving time, that’s an easy one. How long does it take you to write even a simple social post? How long does it take you to put together an Instagram image? How much money does it cost to put together compelling imagery or video or sound? How much does it cost to license stuff? You can save a pretty substantial amount of money by using generative AI to do those things. It obviously saves you time. If you’re saving money, you’re probably also saving time. And then because these tools let you scale, you can reach more people, do better messaging, reach out, be more places, and can bring in more business that way. So really clever, prudent use of the tools can really check the box in all three of those benefits that pretty much everybody wants.
Michael: Now, you have been in the AI sandbox, for lack of a better word, pardon the metaphor, for quite a while. How excited are you about what’s available to us today as marketers?
Chris: It’s funny. The technologies that we’re looking at today really are, to folks who’ve been in the field five or six years old, what has changed is the models themselves have gotten better. And anytime we talk about AI models, we’re really just talking about software that was written by machines for machine use. It’s kind of like if Microsoft Word is a human software, right? AI models are machine software. And the benefits today are, the things that’s changed today is that the accessibility is much easier. We’ve all heard of software like ChatGPT, for example, which is an interface to a model called the GPT family of models from OpenAI. We have just seen very recently Google’s second edition of its BARD software. We’ve used Microsoft Bing with the GPT-4 integration. We use Bing Image Creator to create images for free, right, inside your search engine. And so these tools are more accessible. They are, the advent, particularly of large language models, has made these tools easy to use for the non-technical person. You could have done some of this stuff five years ago, but you had to be a coder. Today, Andre Carpathi said this, a terrific quote in January, “The hottest programming language in 2023 is English.” Just being able to write. Prompt writers, right?
Michael: Exactly. So what is that? I mean, like, do you think this is going to unlock like a creative renaissance in some regards? Because like, what I’m hearing you say is that you had to be a coder to really take advantage of these things just a few months ago. Now anyone can use these things. And it seems to me that will unlock perhaps a new level of creativity. What’s your thoughts on that?
Chris: It depends on how you use them. And I know we’re going to talk about use cases at some point. In some ways they can unlock creativity. In other ways, for people who are perhaps not as self-motivated, they will be substitutes for creativity, right? These tools can create credible and reasonably good content. They don’t create great content. They don’t create like pure surprise-winning content, but they also don’t create crap anymore. Three years ago, it was like watching chimpanzees play Scrabble. It was not good. Now it is obviously much, much better. So I think there’s going to be a blend. You’re going to get more content. No matter anyway you slice this, they will be more. And if you are at a company where say you have a lot of people and you’ve got some C and D players on the team, with AI you could probably bring them up to like B minus players. So the bar has a bare minimum with these tools. There is still plenty of room and plenty of opportunity for A players to shine, right? The A players on the team, those individual contributors who have superior skills, there will always be a place for them. But it’s everybody else is like, “Well, if you’re a C player, we probably don’t need your specific skills anymore because machines can operate at a B minus now.”
Michael: A couple thoughts. First of all, I am seeing some of our peers actually putting out job wrecks for people to manage AI for their business, right? These are the smaller businesses. In addition, we are dealing with an aging population and a low unemployment rate, at least here in America. And I wonder whether or not this is going to help potentially, I don’t know, I’m just thinking macro and micro. I wonder whether or not with a lot of people entering into retirement and stuff, whether or not AI is going to allow smaller teams to be more productive, where in the past they had to hire out and there was a limited supply. I’m curious what your thoughts are on all that.
Chris: That is very much the case for smaller, more nimble organizations. My company, Trust Insights, we’re three people. We carry a client load that should normally require 20 to 25 people to run because so much of our work is done by machines, both regular programming and AI. For those companies, those organizations that are nimble and that have technical talent to make the tools work better and faster together, yes, they will have multiplier effects to make them punch above their weight.
For larger companies, I think you will see more of that sort of the downsizing effect where you’ll see, okay, we can get efficiencies within these companies that reduce the number of total people needed. It will definitely change the competitive landscape. If you’re a marketer, I think the best expression I’ve heard of this is AI is not going to take your job. A person skilled with AI is going to take the job of a person who is not skilled with AI. That really is the essence of what’s happening. If you are skilled with these tools, you are a more valuable employee. You can do more stuff. You can do stuff faster. You can do stuff at a better minimum level of quality versus somebody who is not. That is probably what the roadmap for an individual person is. If you’re thinking like, “Oh my gosh, what’s this going to do to my career?” You have a mandate to at least get familiar with and learn these tools. Whenever disruptive technology comes out, this has happened with the internet when it first came out, learning HTML and learning how to do website coding, and then eventually with social media, understanding how to create content on the social platforms and game the algorithms and create content. Now the challenge is the pace at which it’s happening is extremely fast.
Michael: Would you agree with that?
Chris: Oh, for sure. Think about this. We had computers in 1955. Thirty years later, we had personal computers. Fifteen years later, we had smartphones. Ten years later, we’re now getting into things like artificial intelligence. The span of time which we have to adapt keeps getting shorter and shorter and shorter. If you go back a couple hundred years and you look at the industrial revolution, you went from having 50 people in a field working to today one farmer driving this massive combine that’s GPS powered and all that stuff. He’s sitting there listening to podcasts as his machines are going up and down fields. There is still a farmer as a role, as a job in society, but that farmer’s job today looks very different than it did 300 years ago.
The good news is we should be smart enough. Those of us that are listening to this, we’ve been through, we’ve lived through these waves of technological innovation, especially those of us that are a little more gray haired. We’ve seen what it was like before the internet. We now know we’re entering into this new era. Nothing ever lasts forever and that’s why we do these kinds of shows so that you who are listening can embrace this change and hopefully become more valuable to your prospects, your company, your clients, etc.
Michael: I think that’s a good transition into exploring some of the different use cases that you see today specifically start wherever you want to start with.
Chris: I think for marketers and for everybody, you need to understand the six fundamental use cases within generative AI, particularly with large language models like those with ChatGPT, Bard, Bing, et cetera. Those use cases are generation, extraction, summarization, rewriting, question answering and classification.
Let’s talk through each of these. So generation, everybody knows that is, hey, write me a blog post about Instagram tips, right? And the machines will spit that out and the better your prompt is, which is the plain English code that you are writing, the better the results you’ll get from generation. These are good at generation. They’re not great at it. They’re good.
The second category, which I think is really where they start to shine is extraction. Say I take a million tweets, right? And I just have this data I can use. I can write a prompt says, extract the Twitter handles from these tweets and compile them into a list and a model like GPT four will do that. We’ll present it in the format that I want. Extract some email addresses from this PDF and so on and so forth. These tools are very capable of extracting data out.
The third use case is summarization. This is one of my favorites. Summarization is you tell these machines summarize this, for example, this podcast episode, take the transcript from this podcast episode and summarize it. Tell me the five most important things that Chris and Mike talked about and it will spit out those things. My best favorite use case of this is I use a piece of software called Otter, which is a transcription audio transcription software. If you go to TrustInsights.ai/otter, you can see the whole thing. It’s real simple. You get a raw transcript. Now, of course, a lot of what we say as in speech is not grammatically correct. It’s not polished. There’s a lot of um and uh, you know, all those things. And that shows up in transcripts. You then take that transcript, give it to a service like ChatGPT and say, rewrite this to be grammatically correct. And suddenly that random foaming at the mouth you had is, is clean or it’s maybe it’s a conference call you had with the client. You say summarize this into meeting notes and action items and boom, instead of having a virtual assistant that you’re paying or, or, or clerical staff, you’re paying now. You’re just having a machine do this. I just did this earlier today with a client call and they gave me the five action items from that call, put them right into my to do list program. And boom, I was, I took that 45 minute client call and it within literally a minute and a half, I distilled it down and I was ready to start my workday. So the summarization is really one of those, those very powerful things.
The fourth area that they’re really good at is rewriting content. This is again, you know, taking a voice call where you’re kind of rambling and having it rewrite that into something that sounds better is an easy use case. One actually just put this up on LinkedIn the other day and that’s actually like half a million people have shared it. It’s crazy. I had this very terse note from Karen and accounting to Bob saying, Bob, the two months of invoices you left on my desk aren’t done. They’re not going to get done anytime soon because you can’t just do that. A bunch of profanity in it until there’s Bob. Oh F off. And then the prompt says rewrite this email on a professional tone of voice. And it comes out, uh, Bob, uh, dear Bob, uh, I regret to inform you that, you know, very formal professional tone. It’s a rewrite.
So if you are the kind of person who maybe you don’t have a lot of confidence in your writing, but you have a lot of confidence in your ideas, you can use these tools to do this. There’s a great use case of a person who wrote an app for a smartphone. He works with construction contractors and his one friend was dyslexic, very severely dyslexic, um, and would write very terse, kind of confused emails to clients and clients were not appreciative of it. He made this app, this app did exactly. I took those terse directions and reformatted it to a formal business email. And now clients are very happy with that. So, um, rewriting very powerful. You can even do silly stuff like take the blog posts that accompanies this episode and, and rewrite in Sumerian or emoji. These tools are capable of that.
The fifth area that is powerful is, uh, open is classification. So again, as we were talking about earlier, if you have a bunch of say tweets or emails in your, in your social media monitoring software, or, uh, maybe you even have podcast episodes you want to listen to them in the, from the past, you could have these tools, say you identify the top three topics this episode is about, and then you can sort through those listings and go, okay, I want to listen to these episodes. I could classify, uh, tweets by sentiment. Is this a positive sentiment, negative sentiment? Uh, what kind of social media comment is this? Is this a complaint? Is it a question? Uh, so these tools are very good at doing that kind of classification.
And the last one, this is where there’s major change happening is question answering. These tools are very capable of answering questions. Now they do have limits. For example, open AI’s family of tools, uh, have a time horizon. They don’t know anything after September of 2021 Microsoft Bing, Google’s barred. They don’t have those limitations. They, they are using a search engine data to power them, but they can answer very complex questions, questions that you might not get a concise answer out of a traditional search engine.
For example, uh, one of my favorite little tricks just for around the house is I’ll write out a menu for the week of the things I’m cooking for dinner and I’ll say to one of the models based on the list of these dishes, put together a probable grocery list for me and it will spit out all the ingredients for all the dishes, you know, with quantities like, okay, great. Now I can go to the grocery store and not have to spend 20 minutes going, well, look up this recipe. What do I need to buy? Nope. The tool gives me a good enough list that I can go shopping and save a lot of time.
Those six categories of use cases apply to everything in marketing, apply to everything in social media, apply to everything in customer care. They’re super, super powerful. That’s where marketers will see a lot of benefits.
Michael: What I’m most excited about is a couple of these classifications, a couple of these categories, summarization, rewriting and question answering. And I want to dig in on these a little bit.
I love the idea that like, for example, anybody who creates content, if you like have a transcript, right? You mentioned Otter, I think one of my team members has Otter show up to meetings with him, if I’m not mistaken, and it will like send notes on what the major points were in the meeting and stuff like that. It’ll even prompt, you know, people to ask questions in the meeting, which is kind of fascinating. We joke about it all the time because like, you know, we say, Joel, your Otter is in the meeting. I’m almost certain that’s what the tool is. But, you know, the summarization thing is kind of a big deal because when we are in a call, a company meeting or a client meeting, right, and there’s a transcript of it, there could be a whole bunch of stuff that was discussed and a whole bunch of rabbit trails that we can go down. And it’s hard for us as humans sometimes to remember all the things that were discussed. And the idea that you could have a tool that catches all these things could be a really big deal. Would you agree?
Chris: Absolutely. And the ability for it to then distill it down and assign it or at least to say like, hey, Mike is responsible for these things. These are things that Mike signed up to do. Depending on how good the transcriptives, if people have attributions to what they said, yeah, it’s super powerful and it’s a great way to deliver the kind of customer service that clients wish you would, but that we know because again, we have very human limitations about what we can remember. These tools are kind of like an outside brain.
Michael: Well, and you also have some people who are dyslexic like I am and struggle sometimes to read very long content. So and you know, some blog posts are like 20,000 words. I could totally see a tool that would say something along the lines of, hey, give me the talking points inside this blog post, right? I would imagine they already exist. Do they or don’t they? I’m just curious.
Chris: They absolutely do. They absolutely can do that. The tools do that. There are prompts for that. There are entire companies that are startups that are trying to do that. For those of us who have a bit more gray hair, you probably remember Cliff’s notes, right?
Michael: Of course, yeah.
Chris: This is basically these tools are basically Cliff’s notes for life.
Michael: They’re very good at this, right? This is one of the things that they’re, they generally get down really quite well, right? I mean, sometimes they’ll miss some of the important points I would imagine, right? Or do you find like they’re getting quite sophisticated?
Chris: For the current generation tools, they’re extremely good because you’re not asking them to create anything new. You’re actually asking them to take things away. And so they have all the data to start with and it’s much easier for them to remove than it is to create and add more. So the rewriting thing, I think, is also a really big opportunity for any of us who are in the business of creating any kind of written content, right? Like for example, emails. Like we did a fun little thing with ChatGPT4 where we asked it to create a, well, actually this is technically question answering and rewriting. We asked it to create a four week email campaign and we were going to send this many emails in week one, this many in week two, this many in week three, and this many in week four. And we said, how many? And we said, please come back with recommendations. And it said, here’s what you should send in week one. Here’s the subject line. Here’s what the topics might be. And it prepared the whole thing. And then we used ChatGPT to actually feed it a little bit of data, right? On what we thought it should have. And then it crafted emails. And then we went through this, like you talked about this editing process of refining it and refining it. And what I found was, as a writer, anybody who writes sometimes gets a creative stick where they’re blocked, they’re stuck, right?
Michael: And I feel like, I don’t know if rewriting or writing are the same thing, but I would imagine they kind of fall into the same classification here, creating content versus rewriting, or is it a different classification here?
Chris: They’re different functionally in these tools. They’re different, but you’re speaking more to a human thing, right? As writers, as creators, yeah, we get stuck. When a tool does generation for us, like you feed it two pages of a white paper and like, “Okay, continue from where I left off,” it will spit out something. And that flips your brain from writing mode to editing mode, which is often enough to get you past your writer’s block. Because you’re like, “No, no, no, that’s not what I was going to say.” Oh, that’s what it is. And so your brain’s back on track. Yeah.
Michael: Now, you mentioned there was a web browser extension for ChatGPT. Is that by a third party? Is that by ChatGPT? Do you know what the name of that extension is and what does it do? Does it allow you to bring in the outside web?
Chris: If you are in ChatGPT and you are in the paid program, the $20 a month program, ChatGPT+, you’ll see a little toggle. It says GPT-4 and a drop down menu that has two menus. One is web browsing and two is plugins. Plugins are third party extensions that are provided by other companies. It is probably the new app store for those who are in that kind of market. The web browsing one is built by OpenAI and it allows ChatGPT to go out, browse the web and pull data back in. Now, I have seen pictures of that, but I have not seen that for myself. Does one have to sign up for their alpha or beta program in order to be able to see that? Do you know?
As of three days ago, when we were at the day of recording this, it was open to everyone who’s a paying customer. So you have to go to your settings menu and turn on the beta stuff.
Michael: What does the plugins make possible?
Chris: Pretty much anything you can do on the web. So Kayak is in there for trip planning. Zapier is in there to connect it to these things. There’s a couple of extensions that people are doing to connect to stock market data. There’s actually a recent investigation done by a major investment firm. They took a stock portfolio, some back data and gave it to ChatGPT and said, pick some stocks and then they, because it was back data, they could see how their stock picks performed. It performed like 400% better than the market. And so now this firm’s like, so we’re just going to give this some real money now and see if it can keep making a 4X return on our money. But there’s about 40 extensions in there now and there are probably going to be 10X or 100X that if your company has already done stuff like built an app or built with APIs, it would behoove you to start looking at deploying an extension and getting it to open AI and get it through the approval process to be able to use it within their system. That’s one way that there’s a lot of marketing opportunity.
Michael: Okay. Is there any other, we’ve talked about how you can use AI, particularly ChatGPT to summarize information and to create information, maybe refine information. Is there any other marketing uses that we haven’t addressed that you’ve seen recently that maybe marketers might be like, oh, I hadn’t thought about that when it comes to generative AI?
Chris: So there’s a new model that’s not within the ChatGPT ecosystem. It’s from Mosaic ML called MPT Storywriter. One of the limitations of today’s models, the commercially available ones, is that they have a relatively limited frame of reference. They can create about 3000 words at a time, give or take. You’ve seen this in ChatGPT, if you’re like, stop writing in the middle of a paragraph and you have to type continue to get it going. MPT has released a model that is competitive to the GPT series, but can do 65,000 tokens at a time. So it could write 40,000 words all at once. So now you’re talking like business book length. So think about that from a rewriting use case. Imagine that you were wanting to write another business book and you have a bunch of audio that you recorded. That’s 30,000 words of rambling audio. You could, with the MPT Storywriter model, feed that in and say, “Okay, give me 30,000 words of coherent text now, please.” So we’re going to start seeing these tools be capable of very long-form content, much longer than it’s been generated so far. That I think is going to be a very interesting marketing opportunity for everyone.
Michael: Fascinating, first of all. To chat GPT, I know so many of us are using chat GPT for and are paid. The memory on it, when you create a new thread or whatever they call it, does it remember all the other stuff? Because this is the part where we think the AI is forever smart and remembers all the stuff we fed into it. But is there a limit to how long from your experience it’s going to remember before it has to be retrained in the prompts?
Chris: 8,192 tokens. So about 6,000 words it remembers. It has a roving memory window, so if you have a very long series of interactions, it sort of goes off the rails after a while.
Michael: Oh, interesting. Okay, so about 6,000 words. But what about if you come back to it like a day later? Is it going to remember what the discussion was inside of that?
Chris: Yeah, the thread will preserve what’s happened so far.
And then since you’re technical, if you’re using a tool that has an API integration, is it similar or is that not necessarily always the case?
So, with the OpenAI API for the GPT 3.5 Turbo model, which is the one that powers the default of ChadGPT, there is actually a section in your coding where you put in the previous responses. You feed them back to the software. So you have to do that. It’s costly, I would imagine, right? Because you’re feeding in bigger prompts or something like that.
Exactly.
Michael: Okay, so the API is not yet supporting four is what I’m hearing you say?
Chris: It is for some developers. You have to be enrolled.
Michael: Got it. Okay, so let’s talk about prompts. You mentioned earlier, this is kind of one of those secret weapons, like understanding how to actually engineer a prompt. Presuming we’re talking about ChadGPT because that’s the one that most people are familiar with. Any tips on how to give the system essentially the right kinds of information to get better output?
Chris: So all these models work essentially on the words you give them. They don’t have any words of their own. They all have mathematical probabilities of what it understands about how language works. So the more detailed your prompt is, the better result you’re going to get.
So we actually have a one page PDF, no registration, no forms to fill out. If you go to TrustInsights.ai/promptsheet, you’ll get the ChadGPT specific version of this. But it works out like this. There’s what’s called a role, which is you say you are a social media marketer, you know Instagram, Instagram stories, Instagram Reels, high performing Instagram posts. And there’s a task. Your first task is to generate five Instagram posts from the following background information. Then you provide your information like it must contain, you know, @SMExaminer, you know, mention the SMM24 hashtag and you give it a bunch of requirements. And then you sort of finish off the prompt saying write the Instagram posts. That structure of role, task, background, execute is the best format for ChadGPT to generate a high quality response for, particularly for generator responses.
Michael: Rook, okay. You’re going to pivot to something else because I have some clarifying questions, but go ahead and finish what you’re doing.
Chris: So real quick, every model is different. So if using Bard, what works for Bard will not necessarily work on ChadGPT, what works on Bing and so on and so forth. So you have to know the intricacies of each model that you’re working with.
Michael: Okay. So, so many of us have not done role and it still gets okay responses, right? So specifically, you are a, and you essentially substitute the role that you would be doing. Is that, is that what you mean?
Chris: In the context of what you want it to be doing. Yes.
Michael: Do you, what about the audience? Do you need to also identify who the target audience is? Like you are a marketer who is trying to attract XYZ audience and your task is blank. Does that make any sense or no?
Chris: I typically put audience stuff in the background information section.
Michael: And what’s the background information section? Cause you said role, task, and then…
Chris: Role task background execute is the…
Michael: Oh, the background. Okay.
Chris: That’s your requirements. So whatever it is, so if you’re having a right Instagram post, for example, you’d want to tell it which hashtags to use. You want to tell it whether or not it should use emoji in the text. You want to tell it what kind of imagery suggestions to make. You might have customer feedback in there, whatever information you have for this.
Now I will also say this, the prompt length depends on the kind of task. If you are doing generation, question answering, or extraction, you want longer prompts. If you’re doing summarization, rewriting, and classification, your prompts can be real short. Like for example, I have a one sentence prompt for Otter transcripts, fix grammar, spelling, punctuation, formatting, and spacing. That’s it. It doesn’t need anymore of that because it’s got all the information. Basic you said? What does basic mean?
Michael: No, I was saying for rewriting and summarization, you can have a one sentence prompt because you don’t need to know. I heard you, but you said you’re prompt, but you said against basic. That means I must know what the heck you meant by basic, right?
Chris: Oh, I don’t recall saying that, but okay. Fix grammar, spelling, punctuation, formatting, and spacing.
Michael: Oh, and spacing. Okay. I misheard you. Okay.
Chris: I heard and basic.
Michael: Okay. So getting these prompts really down specifically for anything that is question answering, right? Or generating something original is really, really important is what I’m hearing you say. Now when you’re in a thread specifically, since it does have a memory, if you have the paid account, you presumably only have to do that until it doesn’t remember. Or do you do that with every single one?
Chris: So here’s my recommendation. People should using the software of your choice, one note, ever note, Joplin, whatever you should have a prompt library of the best prompts that you found that work well and treat this with care. Remember what Andre Carpathi said, the hottest programming language in 2020 is English. These prompts are software. You’re writing software. This is possibly part of the secret sauce of your business. So don’t just go, Oh, look at this cool prompt I did on Twitter. It’s about giving away your source code, right? You don’t want to do that unless you’re doing intentionally. Be very careful. If you work at a company, you need to be thinking about, are we giving away company intellectual property and we shouldn’t be give remember that because it’s really important.
But for sure, you should have a prompt library of stuff that you work. And if you work within an organization, maybe there’s a shared document of some kind, a shared data system internally where you can store these things and people can trade them back and forth within a company so that you can maximize the productivity of these things give you.
Michael: Well, and I don’t know if you have done this, but sometimes you don’t like the output of it. So you ask it to rewrite it maybe in a casual voice because maybe you forgot to ask that the first time or maybe to rewrite it without mentioning certain kinds of things. I would imagine you can continue to refine the output until you really love it and then take what you learned and then put that into your next prompt. Is that fair?
Chris: You could do that. But if you have very technical resources, you can now start to scale it where you would take that prompt and you would send it to the API and say, okay, now write a thousand blog posts about this and things. This is a very popular thing that we do. We see a lot and we’ve done with our own SEO keyword list. We’ve written a prompt that has all the parameters for writing. And then we have the keyword list, which is in a data table. And then the ARC programming language, it goes through the keyword list and sends each keyword through and generates content for it. So you can now have machines taking your human prompts and just scaling them dramatically.
Michael: So just so we can kind of help everybody understand how they could do this on a text-based platform like Facebook or Twitter or LinkedIn, I would imagine you could say you’re a marketer working at company X, right? And that’s your company, right? And your task is to write a month’s worth of posts that are maybe like a hundred words or less, right? On this particular topic or to come up with 20 different questions, right? And then the background information is going to be, this is who the target audience is, right? This is who the audience is that we’re trying to attract with these kinds of questions. Now generate the output. Is that essentially, did I do that right? Is that kind of how we would do it?
Chris: That’s how you do it. And then like you said, you’re going to QA it, you’re going to refine it, you’re going to improve it over time. And then basically you just, at that point, put it to the test and see how it performs.
Michael: This is the analyst. I mean, like, do you, have you tested this stuff up against your stuff? And does the AI generated stuff tend to perform better for you when you’re using it?
Chris: It does not yet. Uh, generally, so we’ve done some A/B tests. I’ve actually taken existing blog posts I wrote in the past and had AI rewrite them and put up the exact same version, um, so that it gets crawled and stuff. And the performance has not been as good in terms of dwell time and in terms of discoverability. Now that might just, you know, that’s an N of one. So I would encourage anyone who’s interested in that to test it themselves, uh, because your results probably will differ. But the stuff you’re doing on LinkedIn, was that assisted by AI, the stuff that took off on LinkedIn that you were sharing earlier?
Michael: No, that was not. Okay. Well, I mean, the example was from chat GPT and stuff, but I didn’t chat. GPT did not originate that idea. That was just me being silly.
Chris: Got it. Okay, cool.
Michael: All right. So, um, where’s all this going? Um, let’s talk about like open source models and autonomous agents and stuff like, cause people are going to, their minds are probably going to be blown by some of this stuff that’s coming next.
Chris: Yeah. So we talked about the open source models. This is an exploding area right now. There are hundreds of models being built and designed and customized and deployed for free that you can download and use and tune to your own use cases. So if you, any piece of software that has even the modicum of complexity, I would expect software manufacturers to have a large language model interface that will allow you to chat with the software in the next three years or less. Any company that does not do that, they are behind the eight ball and they are asking to have their lunch eaten by a more nimble competitor because think about it. How complicated is Photoshop to use, right? It’s not a particularly user friendly piece of software for an amateur. Imagine taking a photo in there and say, and it’s all chat window pops and says, okay, colorize this photo, make it more dynamic and bright. Oh, and remove my ex.
Michael: Even better if you could talk to it instead of typing, right?
Chris: Exactly. Um, and so these open source models will now allow software manufacturers to do that without having to pay to open AI for every interaction because you can put that model straight in your software. So that’s going to enable a lot of innovation in the next couple of years. You’re going to see this stuff appearing everywhere. It’s already going to be in Microsoft office and Google docs and all the big tech, but pretty much any software manufacturer, I would expect to see this. So get good at prompt engineering because you’re going to be using an awful lot as a discipline.
The bigger area, which is fascinating and alarming is what’s called autonomous AI. And so this is where you have software that you give it a general goal and, uh, and maybe a starting task or two. And then it spins up multiple instances of these large language models and tries to solve this problem, uh, that you’ve given it. For example, I did a test said, I want you to go to my Twitter profile and figure out how to make me more popular on Twitter. How do I get more likes and retweets and things? And so it spun up 15 to 16 instances of AI agents started writing its own code to scrape Twitter to be able to identify Twitter handles and stuff like that. And essentially sort of assembly software solution that would let me identify what works on Twitter at the time the software runs. I can’t code in these languages, right? And it took the software a while to do it and it was, I would declare it a moderate success. It was not particularly, you know, a human social media manager, a social media strategist would have done a much better job. Um, but the fact is I was able to do that and just walk away from the software and let it do its thing for a few hours is pretty interesting.
The use cases for this, however, these tools are amoral. They have no morals. They have, they’re, they’re like chainsaws, right? They can be used for good or bad and there are plenty of examples of these tools being used in nefarious ways. You know, there’s, uh, there’s an example of, uh, I actually tried this on my website. Um, I told it, here’s the, my website’s login page, try to find a working login. And it started downloading things like, you know, known, you know, cracked password lists and stuff like, okay, clearly this tool has no restraints. So it can be a little hazardous. If you work in cybersecurity, your life has gotten a lot more complicated, but you have job security for a long, long time.
Michael: So what I’m hearing you say is these autonomous agents can be given a task and they’re just going to keep trying until they achieve their outcome. Is that really what I’m hearing you say?
Chris: That’s correct.
Michael: Wow. What’s the upside to that? I mean, like, I would imagine this could be used to do some really cool scientific discoveries as well, don’t you think?
Chris: Absolutely. Think about it. Stuff like, you know, take the, the RNA sequencing on the spike protein of a COVID virus, right? That’s just text. It’s just four letters, A, G, C, and U. You can write models that can interact with that data, just like, you know, it’s interacting with a blog post and have it do predictions, have it do estimations and things. So yeah, there’s a tremendous amount of power in these tools and like any, any powerful tool you can do great things with it. You can do bad things with it. And what the outcome is depends on who’s using the tool.
Michael: Well, Chris, we have clearly just barely scratched the surface of this fascinating frontier. Like people want to learn more about everything that you’ve got going on. Which social platform do you want to send them to and, and where do you want to send them if they want to learn more about your company and all the great things you’ve got going?
Chris: So for the company, go to TrustInsights.ai. For me and my weekly newsletter where I cover a lot of AI stuff, go to ChristopherSPenn.com. And we have some courses, not, no AI courses yet, because by the time the course is done, it’s out of date. But we have some regular courses at academy.trustinsights.ai. The one that I would point people to is we have a free one called Power Up Your LinkedIn Profile, where we looked at the AI behind LinkedIn and how it works and make recommendations to what you should be doing personally on LinkedIn to kind of adhere to the way that their AI works.
Michael: Chris Penn, thank you so much. Really appreciate your time today. Like I’m, I’ve got a bunch of rabbit trails I need to go down now.
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In today’s episode, Brian sparks an intriguing discussion about the potential risks, such as hallucinations or incorrect responses, associated with large language models. I delve into how these models, despite their complex architecture, are essentially involved in a word guessing game, which can lead to unpredictable responses. I underscore the importance of supervision, subject matter expertise, and fact-checking when using these models. Tune in to learn more about this crucial, often overlooked aspect of AI tools. Let’s make the digital world safer and more reliable together.
What follows is an AI-generated transcript. The transcript may contain errors and is not a substitute for watching the video.
In today’s episode, Brian asks regarding inherent risks, you talked about privacy bias and copyright when it comes to large language models, what are hallucinations or potential incorrect responses? Well, yes, of course, that’s, that’s always a risk.
models, large language models in particular, can hallucinate, they can come up with incorrect information.
And the reason for this is because they don’t have any reasoning capability, not really.
There is reasoning that kind of happens as a result, when a model is very large, the just the nature of the interlinking probabilities creates a reasoning like emergent property.
But for the most part, at the end of the day, all these models are just doing is predicting the next word, right? That is all they are doing.
How long they’ve trained for how many parameters, what their weights are all that stuff.
It’s just a word guessing game for them internally.
And so when they are given a response, they’re given a prompt that doesn’t make sense, they will hallucinate, or they do have a prompt that makes sense, but they don’t know the answer.
They will hallucinate, they will just make stuff up.
One of the most famous tests for this is to ask a model who was president of the United States in 1566.
The way these models work, they look at the words and phrases, they break them up and they look at what has proximity to those terms.
And early, early in the GPT models, they would say things like Christopher Columbus, because it was the name that was most closely associated with maybe early time periods and the United States was eventually the United States and that’s a completely wrong answer.
Today’s models don’t make those mistakes because they’ve been trained better and bigger and stuff, but that is always a risk.
So there’s two things you need to do to reduce the likelihood of risks.
Number one, don’t let models behave and act and do stuff unsupervised, right? You should always be checking their work and saying, Oh, you know, is it still doing what it’s supposed to be doing? That’s number one.
And number two, whatever tasks you’re having the model perform, you should have some subject matter expertise in those tasks, so that you can judge whether the output is correct or not.
If I ask a model to look at gastroesophageal reflux disease, acid reflux disease, it can give me some answers and I haven’t the foggiest clue whether it is correct or not, because I don’t specialize in that.
That is not what I do.
I’m not a I’m not a doctor.
I don’t even play one on YouTube.
And so it could tell me things that are blatantly wrong.
And I won’t know unless I have, you know, I take the time to corroborate that to go good to Google search on the answer and validate it from reliable sources that what it told me is correct.
Under no circumstances, particularly for high stakes stuff, should you ever just be using responses from large language models willy nilly with no fact checking right in the same way that you wouldn’t do that from a search engine.
Right? This is not new.
This is just a different technology.
Now you would not just copy paste something from the first result on Google for your query, without looking at it without reading it without going, that doesn’t make sense.
Or Ooh, I don’t trust that source.
You know, I was I asked Bing a question the other day that gave me a response and the citation, which is very important.
The citation it gave was to a a known disinformation source.
I’m like, that’s wrong.
And I gave feedback.
I said, you know, thumbs down, this is an incorrect response is factually incorrect.
Whether Microsoft uses that information or not, I don’t know.
But even regular old fashioned search engines can give you incorrect responses, right, they can come up with something they can find something that is factually just flat out wrong.
There’s a greater risk in large language models because they don’t do citations newly as well as search engines do right when you ask chat GPT for an answer, and then you ask it to cite its sources.
Sometimes those sources are just made up.
There’s a very famous case, a legal case not too long ago, where a lawyer got in a lot of trouble because chat GPT cited cases that don’t exist looks good.
When he he published it, but didn’t exist.
So you’ve got to fact check these things.
humans should be fact checking what AI produces for the foreseeable future, right for the foreseeable future, because there’s just too many ways for these tools to go off the rails and is much easier and safer to fact check them yourself.
And if you don’t have subject matter expertise, and the things you’re having generate content for a I wonder why you’re generating content on those things and be find someone who does have the expertise so that they can correct what the models are spitting out.
It’s a good question.
It’s an important question.
So thank you for asking.
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In today’s episode, I address a critical aspect of training AI models—considerations regarding the content used for training. Many large language models have been built using content without proper permission, raising concerns about the appropriateness of the data. While using public domain content may seem like a solution, it often contains outdated or inappropriate ideas. Historical documents, textbooks, and newspapers may have historical value, but training machines on them can lead to undesirable outcomes. I emphasize the need for more thoughtful and intentional selection of training data to ensure AI models generate language that aligns with our desired values. Join me for a thought-provoking discussion on the responsible training of AI models. Don’t forget to hit that subscribe button if you found this video insightful!
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Mind Readings: The Danger of Old Text in Generative AI
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Today in the USA is June 19 2023.
as I record this, it is the Federal holiday Juneteenth, which commemorates the notice that slaves were freed at the last major outpost in the US at the time, two years after slavery had officially ended, it was June 19 1865.
Today, what we want to talk about is some very important things to think about with the training of AI models.
And it should become clear in a moment why we’re doing this on jun team.
One of the big things that is very controversial about large language models today is that they’ve been scraped together with a whole bunch of content that companies like OpenAI did not get permission to use.
Right.
And so there are a lot of people who are saying, well, we what we should do is let’s make sure we have language models that are trained only on things that either we have permission to use, or are free of copyright, they’re in the public domain.
On the surface, this sounds like a good idea, right? On the surface, it sounds like okay, well, we’ll only use stuff that is in the public domain, we will only use stuff that does not need permission to be used commercially.
Because the way copyright law things works.
However, that’s problematic.
And here’s why.
Most stuff that is in the public domain is old.
Not all that there’s lots of works that are people release into the public domain, or through other alternative licensing systems like Creative Commons, etc.
But the majority of stuff that is in the public domain is in the public domain, because the copyright expired on it.
Or never even had copyright because it’s it’s that old.
With the challenge with old texts is they contain old ideas.
They contain all ideas, they contain things that you might not want a large language model to learn from, for example, at the Smithsonian Institute, which is one of America’s largest, actually is the largest, I think, public museum, you can find huge numbers of old documents from the early days of the country, the text of those documents has been transcribed.
And it’s freely available.
And because the Smithsonian especially is a a federal government institution, there’s absolutely no copyright and neither works.
So you’re like great, this will be a perfect source for us to get training data for AI that has no copyright restrictions.
Well, this is a bill of sale from 1800.
This bill of sale has been transcribed and the text of it is available online at the Smithsonian for free.
No copyright.
This is a bill of sale for a slave.
This is a bill of sale for a slave named Sam was sold to Edward Rousey of Essex County.
Do you want AI to be learning from this? There are contexts where you might you might have a specially fine tuned model that you use for doing other forms of historical transcription or historical analysis.
But do you want ChatGPT to have learned from this? Do you want ChatGPT to associate the words that are in this with other words that are in this and generate probabilities based on it because that’s how large language models work.
They are just probability engines guessing the next word based on all the words that they have learned.
This is probably the most obvious example of really bad ideas that are language and are free.
But you probably don’t want to be training machines on the concepts within these and having that be okay.
Right? Again, there will be use cases where you’d want to fine tune model to process and help process other historical documents and that’s totally fine.
But for tools that you unleash on the general public, not as fine.
Think about old history textbooks, old novels, old newspapers, from 1900 1875 1850 1825, they have historical value.
To be clear, there’s there’s no question they have historical value, we should not delete them or destroy them, they have historical value, but we should not be training machines on them.
Can you imagine? And this is a very simple example.
Can you imagine taking the knowledge from the maintenance of the Ford Model T And those concepts and applying them to a Tesla.
Right? Really bad idea, really bad idea.
When we think about how AI is being trained, there are a lot of problems with bias because human beings are biased.
And in the USA, which is where I am, we have centuries of bias, beginning with slavery, and going to the present day of racial discrimination, of wealth discrimination, and literally every kind of and our written words are filled with these are written words are filled with these from 1776 to 2023.
When I, when I heard, met a CEO Mark Zuckerberg say that the llama model that meta released was based in part on common crawl, which is the content of the web.
Plus data from Facebook’s family of apps, facebook, whatsapp, Instagram, I immediately thought, well, that’s not good, because there’s a whole bunch of garbage on Facebook that I don’t know that I would want a machine knowing, right, in terms of, of curating and deciding what should be what content should be used for training a machine and the language it creates.
So my caution to you, my recommendation to you and my recommendation to our profession as a whole can professional artificial intelligence is that we have to be a lot more thoughtful about what text we feed to models to train them on what images what the intended purpose of a model is, my general feeling is that a general purpose model, particularly one that you’re going to unleash on the general public, should be free from as much stuff that you don’t want it generating as possible, like, Do you want a an artificial intelligence modeled for the general public in 2023, to accurately generate a bill of sale for a slave, that’s probably not a great use case.
Right? Now, again, there are conditions where you might want that to be the case, like if you have half of an old memo, half an old bill of sale, and you’re trying to infer what the rest of that bill sell, if you have it some damage historical documents, that would be a clear case where you’d want a specially tuned models that the general public does not have access to wouldn’t use to do that job.
But in the general public model, I don’t know that there’s a really good use case for associating these words, and having a machine spit them out.
And just to be clear, all this stuff is private, private companies and things.
The rights that we associate with things like freedom of speech, freedom, to not be enslaved, etc.
Those were government functions.
And the government is required to uphold them.
Private companies generally don’t have to.
And there’s exceptions, like Title Nine, at least in the USA.
So for a company to say, Yeah, we’re not going to offer that in our in our model is every company’s prerogative.
And if you don’t like that, you can download an open source model, retrain it yourself, and have your model do what you want it to do.
No one is stopping you from doing that.
But I think this is a clear call to action for people working with AI to know what’s in these models, what they were trained on.
And to be able to say, like, look, perhaps some things shouldn’t be in the training data to begin with.
Because we’re not asking these things to be encyclopedias.
We’re not asking these things to be search engines.
We’re asking these things to generate language.
So let’s make sure that they’re working with the language that we actually want them to use, and do our best to remove that from what they are taught.
Again, don’t destroy the source data.
The historical documents need to exist for a reason.
But maybe don’t teach it to an AI.
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In today’s episode, I discuss what has captured my attention in the field of artificial intelligence, particularly the limitations and decreasing utility of large tech models like GPT-4 and ChatGPT due to increasing restrictions. I share my experience with content censorship and highlight the importance of open-source projects that provide greater ownership and control. I introduce five interesting open-source software tools: llama.cpp, GPT-4 All, meadows music Gen, automatic 1111, and tortoise TTS. These tools offer powerful language engines, local AI applications, music generation, image generation, and voice synthesis. Join me to explore the durability and possibilities of open source in the AI world. Don’t forget to hit that subscribe button if you enjoyed this video!
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In today’s episode, let’s talk about what I’m paying attention to in artificial intelligence these days, what has gotten my attention and where I’m spending my time, the big, the big tech models, like GPT-4, and ChatGPT, has the interface to it, etc.
These are certainly very capable models, they are very good services they are in GPT-4 is case, sort of a jack of all trades master of none.
But what we’re seeing is increasing restrictions on what these models are capable of doing.
And this can be because of feedback that they’ve received.
This can be because of decisions being made by these companies, but it reduces their utility.
I’ll give you an example.
The other day, I was working on a set of slides.
And I wanted to include an image of a person holding a tape measure, and not being able to correctly measure a window.
And I use the word limp in the description when I was using it with them the dolly system for image generation, and it kept saying this prompt violates our content policy.
I’m like, a person holding a lip tape measure is not exactly shall we say less scabious.
And, and exciting imagery, I It’s a tape measure.
But for whatever reason, the software decided that that particular keyword was not okay, when I removed it, it was able to generate the image.
And I’m like, Okay, I mean, that’s, that’s a bit of a stretch.
And so, between that, and the ownership of of these tools, I’ve really started paying much more attention to open source projects.
And what I mean by ownership is this, we are in a situation now where, as consumers, we’ve been conditioned to not own things, right.
If you have Spotify, you don’t own any of that music, the moment you stop paying your bill, you no longer have access to that.
Whereas say, if you bought a CD back in the 90s, right, from a musician, you bought the CD, and you have this CD, and you had this disc that you held on to and it was yours for as long as you want you owned it.
And when we look around at the spaces, in things like software and content, yeah, we own very, very little.
We don’t own much, you if you have a favorite show on Netflix, if Netflix decides Nope, we don’t want to show that anymore.
Delete, you have no control over it, you don’t own it.
And this is happening with things.
For example, like ChatGPT, you don’t own that you have no control over it doesn’t run locally on your computer.
And as a result, if OpenAI changed his mind about what content is prohibited, and that happens to include content that you’re working with, that becomes a problem.
Open source software software that is open to the community that is typically free, is it solves that problem, because you download the software, sometimes you compile it yourself.
You run it on your computer, and it’s there, it’s a local piece of software on your computer, that doesn’t go away, that doesn’t ask for more money, that doesn’t stop working at the whim of a large corporation.
And it’s it is yours, right? That code is forever.
When we think about AI tools, you know, you’ve seen the posts on LinkedIn or Twitter with people announcing the latest group of tools.
And yeah, there’s like 200 new companies being started every day, in the AI space is the list is endless.
Most of these companies are not going to be around six months or a year, and if you got used to doing business with them, and then they’re just not there anymore.
That’s problem, right? You You’ve become reliant on something and you have to find a solution.
If you’re using open source software, it runs on your software or your hardware on your on your laptop, maybe on your servers at work.
And if the the project comes to an end, that software still keeps running, right? It keeps running until your development environment or your production environment is no longer able to run it back could be years from now.
So that’s why I’m paying so much attention to open source in AI because a it’s where all the innovation is and be your own it.
It’s yours.
It’s on your laptop, it’s on your server, it’s on your desktop, and you can do with it what you want.
Typically, there’s fewer rules or restrictions.
And there’s no waitlists for new features.
You just run the software and, you know, granted you have to have in some cases a pretty beefy computer to do it, but it’s yours.
So the top five pieces of software that I’m looking at lately once called llama dot cpp, this is a, I would call it the probably the most powerful basic large language engine that can use almost any of the major open source large language models.
This is a command line tool.
So it is definitely not user friendly.
But it’s extremely powerful, it’s very fast and very efficient.
The tool that I would recommend everyone take a look at is one called GPT-4.
All so if you go to GPT-4, all ChatGPT, that number for aol.io, you can download a desktop application, and then choose which models you want to use.
This is very low tech, right there’s there’s no technical skill required to install the application.
And that functions like what you’re used to with things like ChatGPT, but it’s running on your computer.
Now, depending on the speed of your computer in the age of stuff, it may not run real fast, but it does run.
And you can use sensitive information with it right when you use ChatGPT.
If you were to paste in, you know, some credit card records or something and ask it to do pattern detection.
You’re giving sensitive information to a third party, which is a big no no in things like finance and health and law.
When you’re running a piece of software like GPT-4, all locally on your computer, you don’t even need the internet for that, right? No data is leaving your computer, no data is going to a third party, you were just using it locally.
So that is a project that I recommend everyone take a look at it sooner or later.
A couple other projects that again, these are more required technical skills, meadows music Gen is fascinating.
This is open source music generation.
And it’s pretty good.
It’s pretty good.
Now it’s an initial model.
And there definitely is some limitations with it.
But it gives you a sense of okay, this is where this is going this is pretty cool that it can with a sufficient enough prompt to generate a decent sounding piece of music.
And of course, being AI generated, you don’t have to worry about things like copyrights, because nothing a machine generated can be copyrighted.
And so you don’t have to worry about taking, dealing with royalties and all that stuff.
Another project I think is interesting is automatic, automatic.
1111 is the name of it now, but this is a web interface to Stable Diffusion, the image generation model again, this is something that either runs in, you can run it in a cloud environment like Google colab.
Or if you’ve got a beefy enough laptop, you can run it right on your machine and generate images.
So if you’ve seen Stable Diffusion imagery, the AI generated art, you can run this locally.
And there are some fine tunes of the Stable Diffusion library that you can use to generate specific kinds of styles.
You can also add in additional tools that will clean up the inevitable doesn’t quite get the faces right on people.
But it’s a pretty cool tool.
And the fifth one that I’ve been paying a lot of attention to is tortoise TTS.
So tortoise is a relatively slow voice generator.
So it can synthesize voices, which again is very useful if you want natural sounding computers to be able to speak now there are paid services like 11 labs that offer basically this technology, but in a in a SaaS base environment.
But again, you don’t own that.
And they have a lot of understandably, a lot of restrictions on what you can and can’t do with it.
If you want to train tortoise on your own voice and have you know, reading out, I don’t know, some fanfiction, you wrote.
And that would violate, you know, say 11 Labs content policy, but it’s your stuff and you want to have your voice doing it.
These tools will let you do it.
So that’s what’s captured my attention lately in the AI world.
Yes, there are a lot of cool companies a lot of cool things happening.
But I’m paying a lot of attention to open source because of its durability.
If I’m going to offer a service or strategic advice to a client, I want to know that that recommendation is going to endure longer than six months, right? Especially for the clients gonna be building something on that architecture.
I want to make sure that it has as a solid foundation and open source software is one of those foundations.
So that’s the show for now.
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What’s On My Mind: AI, Creative Writing, and Fan Fiction
Okay, let’s talk about exactly how large language models work, especially in the context of creative writing. I was invited recently to join a group of fanfiction authors in protesting the use of AI to consume people’s works without permission, and they had a lot of good questions that I want to try working through in one big shot, or in fanfic terms, a big one shot. While today’s issue will be specifically about fanfiction, everything we’re going to talk about also applies to any kind of content on the Internet, including your marketing content.
We will put aside the can of worms that is the questionable legality of fanworks (which is an ongoing legal debate, but in general leveraging other people’s intellectual property without permission means you cannot exert intellectual property rights of your own) to talk specifically about how large language models work, because there is a lot of confusion about them, and once you understand them, you’ll be able to make more informed decisions about how to use them.
Let’s take a moment to clear up some terminology. A model is AI terminology for software. Microsoft Word, for example, is software written by humans, for humans to use in writing. A model is AI software, written by AI, for AI to use in writing. What we think of as AI software – tools like ChatGPT – are actually interfaces to AI models. So what are models? They have arcane names like GPT-4, StableLM, LLaMa, Vicuña, MPT, etc.
Why does this matter? Because different models are good at different tasks. Some models, like GPT-4 (the most powerful model that powers the paid version of ChatGPT), are massive models that are good at many things, but excellent at very few. If you’ve ever tried to write some mature fanfiction, you know that GPT-4 and the ChatGPT interface simply won’t let you. It’s like the Disney of writing tools; anything remotely controversial simply isn’t permitted. But that’s not the only game in town. There are other tools like Bard, Bing, etc. that are very consumer friendly, and then there are specialized models and interfaces like GPT4ALL.
For the rest of this piece, we’ll be talking about the models themselves, as opposed to their interfaces, because it’s the models that do all the work, and the models are where controversies lay.
First, let’s talk about how these large language models are built. We will leave out tokenization and embeddings and all the fancy tech talk in favor of framing everything in terms of… pizza.
How do you make a good pizza? There are a gazillion different ways to make it, but generally it’s a dough with tomato sauce and cheese, baked in an oven. Of course there are variations like alfredo sauce pizzas or dessert pizzas, but most of the time, when you say pizza, you’re thinking of flat round dough with tomato sauce, cheese, and toppings.
Now suppose you wanted to teach an AI how to make pizza. How would you do it? You would find as many pizzas as you possibly could and feed them to AI to learn from all those samples. Over time, with enough pizzas and enough time, a machine will learn that generally, pizza is flattened, round dough with tomato sauce and cheese. It will also be severely overweight.
You’ll have a lot of variations, like whether to add sugar to the sauce or not, or what kind of cheese to use. You’ll have big groups of common variations like Chicago deep dish versus New York slice. And what is the machine doing? Taking all those pizzas it ate and boiling down those dining experiences into recipes.
This is a key point to understand about large language models. The source texts themselves are not in large language models, any more than a cookbook of pizza recipes is made of actual pizzas. When a company makes a large language model, what’s being stored are the statistical probabilities of words and their relationship to each other – in essence, very fancy recipes, but not the original texts themselves.
So if source texts are not in large language models, then what is in there? The frequencies and statistical relationships of words to each other. For example, take this passage from a fan fiction piece:
The two women walked through the expansive lobby, decorated with the latest scientific achievements from around the company. Nearly lunchtime, the lobby’s enormous glass walls had rotated open, allowing fresh air into the building and open air dining at the ground floor employee cafe. Lena’s stride skipped a step as a notification pinged on her smartwatch. She held it up, glanced at it quickly, then took Kara’s hand and squeezed it three times. Kara nodded silently as they made their way to the elevator bank. Once the doors closed, Lena swiped her ID against the scanner and the elevator began its descent into the basement levels of LuthorCorp.
Is this exact text in a model like GPT-4? No. What is? The first stage of processing is something that looks a bit like this:
The colored boxes are how an AI identifies the pieces of text to start collecting data on, which leads to converting the text into this:
And then this becomes a series of math equations, shorthand for the recipe needed to replicate similar kinds of language to the source material. That’s what the machine has been fed – not even this series of numbers, but a series of math equations distilled from it. It knows, from this small sample, that the word Kara and the word Lena co-occur a lot AND are related to each other statistically, but the source text isn’t in the model – and critically, the model has absolutely no understanding of the text. Machines can’t read. They can only calculate probabilities.
So, back to our pizza analogy, once the model has a huge index of pizza recipes that define pizza, AI companies then test it repeatedly, asking it to make different kinds of pizza in a process called supervised fine-tuning. When it makes a sphere of dough, model makers tell it no, that doesn’t fit the model of what a pizza is. When it puts pineapple on pizza, model makers argue with each other for hours in the office before grudgingly allowing it. The machines eventually end up rewriting their cookbooks many times over as they receive feedback that what they thought was a good pizza was not, in fact, good pizza.
Supervised fine-tuning helps large language models do less of the wrong things like generate gibberish or problematic text, and more of the right things. This process requires a ton of human supervision and weeks, if not months, of fact-checking over and over again that the machine is doing things correctly or not.
Finally, model makers for the most sophisticated models do what’s called reinforcement learning with human feedback. In pizza parlance, customers give feedback on machine generated pizzas, about which pizza best matched what they asked for and how it tasted. RLHF is a very time and person intensive process, but this eventually leads to pretty good pizzas.
This exact process is how LLMs work. They are fed with huge amount of scraped data to learn what to do, essentially boiling down that text down into statistical probabilities that represent the texts in the same way that recipes represent the foods they’re intended to make. Then the models are fine tuned to make fewer mistakes, and then they’re given even more feedback from real world usage.
This is why things like copyright and sources are so difficult to untangle when it comes to large language models, because not only are the source texts not in the model, but the exact word for word probabilities are not in the model either due to the tuning process. In our pizza example, suppose as a joke you put up a recipe for pizza made entirely out of paper. Supervised fine-tuning would end up disregarding many of the probabilities generated from that terrible recipe because, yuck, and thus what’s in the final model would only incorporate fragments of the original probabilities.
A few folks have said, “But a sentence I wrote came out of ChatGPT exactly. That shouldn’t be possible if my writing isn’t in there.”
There are two reasons this will happen. First, you wrote a sentence that is common enough that the machine would naturally generate it. If you write something like “and they lived happily ever after,” that’s not exactly original text. There’s a very good chance any generic phrase you use will show up in generated text because it’s so common.
Or, second, you wrote a sentence that is so unique that when you prompted it for a completion, your prompt was so specific that the model only had one set of probabilities to draw from, and that was a fragment of your source text. For example, if you wrote a prompt to generate a fanfiction about a rare pairing, and there were only 3 fics on the entire Internet about that pairing, there’s a good chance any output the machine spits out for that are going to have recognizable patterns because there wasn’t that much to learn from.
Now let’s talk about AI and its ingestion of content, particularly from sites like Archive of our Own. Can AI companies scrape copyrighted texts without permission? Well, it depends. What does it depend on? The laws in your locality. For example, the law is not settled in the USA. In the EU, the law is leaning towards prohibiting the scraping of copyrighted works without permission. Japan just ruled that AI scraping does NOT violate copyright, in an attempt to seize a leadership position as a country favorable to AI development. Obviously, this then becomes problematic for jurisdictions; Japan is hoping to attract AI companies by allowing them to build models in Japan (along with the jobs needed to do so), and then those models could be used legally and safely anywhere in the world as long as they originate and run in Japan.
Is it stealing, as some allege, to use copyrighted or original works to train an AI model? Let’s go back to our pizza analogy. Is eating a pizza at someone’s restaurant and then going home and trying to write down what you think the recipe is to make that pizza stealing? It’s hard to say. Is it imitating? Absolutely. Is it plagiarism? Depends on how good the copy is. I can try to paint the Mona Lisa but it will be so bad, it will be a unique work of art. Bad, but unique – and no one will mistake it for the Mona Lisa, I can promise you that. Is it stealing? No, because theft deprives the owner of the use of their work. Intellectual property rights infringement isn’t theft. It’s a different category of law entirely.
Now, let’s talk creativity and voice. Is the writing that AI spits out less creative? It depends on two things: the model and the prompt. Really big models like GPT-4 are jacks of all trades, masters of none. They tend to create more generic sounding text because they have to be everything to everyone. A model like MPT Storywriter is tuned for writing long form works, and thus it will spit out better quality fiction for the same prompt.
The second factor is the prompt itself. Prompts are a form of programming language, except that instead of a formal language like Python or JavaScript, you’re writing in English, Spanish, Japanese, etc. But that also means that your prompts need to be as detailed as creative briefs to get good results. Imagine asking a writer to write a piece on commission, with a catch: you are not allowed to contact them again until the work is done. How detailed and thorough would you need to be to get good output, if you couldn’t ask or answer questions? That’s how detailed you have to be when writing prompts for AI.
Writing a prompt like, “write a love story between Kara Danvers and Lena Luthor” is going to get you completely uncreative, boring prose at best because there’s so little specificity that our large language models – which are probability engines – will simply pick the highest probabilities to assemble a story, and that story will be boring. If you submitted a three page prompt with a detailed outline, character descriptions, plot twists, style guides, and writing examples, you’re going to get a much, much better, more creative story. (download my free prompt guide here, no forms to fill out, no strings attached)
Do you want a machine to sound exactly like you? Then you’ll need to do something called fine tuning, a very technical process where you take all of your writing, prepare it in a format compatible with an existing model, and essentially tell the model to sound more like you. If prompt engineering is telling a model exactly how you want your pizza (and it getting it right to lesser or greater degrees), fine tuning is giving a model a bunch of your pizzas and saying “make pizza exactly like this”. It’s much more precise because there are a lot of little details and unique touches to our writing that aren’t in other people’s writing, and it’s hard to put those details into words. Giving exact samples is a much more reliable way to capture our voices. For now, the process to do so is fairly technical, but that will likely change over time as tools get more friendly and easier to use.
Can machines be truly creative? Six months ago I would have said no, they can’t, because they can only draw on what they’ve been trained on. However, there are two nuances here. First, large language models have effectively perfect memory. The more specific, precise, and focused your prompt is, the more likely it’s going to have creative output, output that hasn’t been seen before. Second, there is new research that just came out in the last month for tools to harness the mistakes made by AI as a form of brainstorming. Sometimes AI tools simply screw up – but researchers now argue that these screwups could have potential as a force of creativity, a way for machines to be creative.
Okay, so this was a LOT to run through, but it answers many of the areas that my author friends raised about how AI is impacting creative writing. Here’s the bottom line: AI is a tool. It’s a very sophisticated tool that most people don’t know the internal workings of, but I’d argue you also don’t know the inner workings of the car you drive or the microwave you use, either. As with all tools, AI is agnostic and amoral. It has no moral compass, it isn’t good or evil, and it can’t do anything on its own. It has no free will, no agency, no license to operate independently of us. Thus, when we talk about the dangers of AI in creative writing, in fan fiction, or in marketing, we’re really talking about the dangers of how humans will wield tool. Give a lumberjack a powerful tool like a chainsaw, and you’ll get powerful results from it. Give Jason Voorhees the same tool, and you’ll get a very different, equally powerful outcome. At the end of the day, it’s the person using the tool that will use it for good or ill, and as we try to set laws, rules, and guidelines for AI, we have to focus on what people will do with the tool, because the tool doesn’t do anything by itself.
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What’s On My Mind: Content Marketing Is In Trouble
I saw a glimpse of what the future of content looks like, and it looks great for us as consumers and as storytellers. As marketers? We’re in a whole lot of trouble. Here’s why. We’ve been talking about generative AI for quite some time now, ever since Stable Diffusion and DALL-E back in early 2022, then ChatGPT in late 2022. These tools fundamentally changed how we program computers because they take plain language prompts and convert them into instructions in ways that allow even the most non-technical person to gain substantial benefit from them.
I said a while ago that literally every piece of software that is at all complex to use will have some kind of natural language prompt system built into it within months; earlier pioneers like Hubspot’s ChatSpot showed appetite from customers for interacting with complicated software in easy ways – with prompts. Just recently, Microsoft announced that the Windows operating system itself would have natural language prompt capabilities system-wide, so even mundane tasks like “move all my PowerPoint files older than a year into a subdirectory called 2022 PowerPoints” will be easy.
Here’s an easy way to tell if a piece of software you use will have generative AI soon. If it has an API, or it has an internal programming language, it will have generative AI because the groundwork for code-driven interactions is already there. Windows and Microsoft Office have VBScript. Adobe has scripting tools. Blender 3D has scripting tools. Hubspot has an API, and so on.
The ease of use that generative AI provides is now showing up in creative tools. A short while ago, Adobe released a beta of Photoshop that allows for generative fills. You select something in your image, then type into the prompt what you want the rest of the image to be. While software like DALL-E and Stable Diffusion have had this capability, it’s not mainstream and it was kind of a pain to use. Photoshop makes that easy now.
But the big one, the eye-opener for me was the announcement of Unity AI. For those unfamiliar, Unity is a very, very complicated and capable programming environment used mainly by game studios to create video games. Some of the biggest and best video game titles are built in Unity, games you’ve either played or heard of. In the most recent release of Unity, 5.2, the company showcased AI-based generation of landscapes and other shortcuts to speed up game development. Go search for Unity 5.2 on YouTube if you want to see just how good it looks.
And then, just this morning, we stumbled upon Unity AI. What is it? You guessed it: prompt-based generation of video game content. Now instead of spending hours, days, or weeks painstaking constructing scenes, characters, and sequences, generative AI and prompt-based programming will help developers accelerate their work, get to a first draft much faster, and spend their time refining the first draft.
As with systems like ChatGPT, expect the first drafts to not be perfect, to not be ready to ship as-is. But what a first step, because today, the first draft for a top-tier title can take months, if not years, to create. Now, that sounds cool, but you’re probably wondering, what does this have to do with content marketing?
The Unity environment isn’t just for video games. Because of the complexity of its engine, you can make videos with it as well, scripted video. If you’ve played any of the current games built on Unity, you’ve seen video cutscenes filmed entirely with the gameplay engine. They look great – highly realistic virtual environments and characters acting out a script.
In other words, with engines like Unity, you can shoot cinematic video without leaving your desk. That in and of itself isn’t new, but up until now, that’s been impractical because of the huge number of steps you need to take just to assemble a single scene. With generative AI and prompt-based interactions? That’s going to be much, much faster – which brings film-making on a shoestring budget to a whole new level. Suppose you’re shooting a film and you want to shoot scenes or B-roll in other locations? With tools like this, you might green screen in your talent into environments generated in Unity – or you might not use any human talent at all.
Think about what this means for content creators. High-quality video production will be possible with prompt-based instruction, in the same way that music production, image production, and text production are today with tools like ChatGPT.
Look at fan and independent content creator sites like Archive Of Our Own. There are MILLIONS of stories that have been created by independent content creators on sites like those, written fiction that earns more traffic and more audience than most marketing content. Now imagine how straightforward it will be (not easy, but straightforward) to convert the best of those fiction pieces into videos, into series, into films.
Think about any TV series that you enjoyed which came to an end or got unceremoniously cancelled. With generative AI tools, fans – whether or not they have permission to do so – will be able to engineer their own rich content in those worlds and universes in the same way they write fan fiction today.
Do you see the problem for marketing? Yes, marketing will benefit from these tools as well, but there’s so much untapped originality, so much outstanding writing out there online, so many good ideas that would never get funding for a feature film or a streaming video series that could be turned into those forms of content with generative tools.
And that means marketing content, which is already not the most exciting content in the world, is going to fall further behind on people’s must-consume list. There’s an ocean of content about to be created that will easily out-compete marketing content because it’s simply better content, a better way for a person to spend their time. We are headed to the bottom of everyone’s to do list for the most part.
So, what should we marketers do? The solution is simple and extremely difficult: make content worth consuming. It sounds so trite, so cliche, so 2005, but it’s 100% true. Our competition is no longer Netflix and Disney+, but everyone who can and will make incredibly rich content with the next generation of content tools.
Suppose making content – even on the shoestring budgets these new productions will have – is just not in the cards for us. What then? Well, there are a variety of ways we can participate and create mindshare in these new worlds, new environments, new content authoring mechanisms. In systems like Unreal, you need assets – content pieces that the engine can build with, like tables, chairs, soda cans, etc. If you’re a brand that makes any kind of physical object, you should absolutely be engineering and freely giving away branded virtual objects. A soda manufacturer like Coca-Cola should be handing out free virtual soda cans and vending machines like candy – with licenses for developers to use them – as free product placement sooner than later.
Suppose you’re not able to do that. What then? The reality is that even though independent studios, film-makers, and game makers will all benefit greatly from generative AI for making content, it will still take time and money, just less of it. Your company could be the sponsor, the patron of productions that align with your values and your marketing strategy. A film that would have cost 10 million to make might only cost10,000 to make – but that’s still 10,000 people probably don’t have. Your company might not be willing to sponsor the creation of a10 million film, but would you sponsor a $10,000 film? That’s a lot more palatable – and if it’s a hit, then you get to ride the rocketship to the top of pop culture for your fifteen minutes of fame.
Your marketing, in the new world of outstanding independent content, might evolve to look more like marketing from a century ago, when companies sponsored content left and right in an attempt to gain mindshare in new media like radio and the television. Look around for content opportunities and build connections with creator communities sooner rather than later, because this tidal wave is almost ashore.
Finally, I want to reiterate something we’ve been saying for years now. AI isn’t going to take your job. A person skilled with AI will take the job of a person who is not skilled with AI, because that person will be able to do so much more, so much faster, so much better than the person who is not. If you want to remain highly employable, highly sought after, you need to be using these tools now, today, while they are still fresh and the disruption has upset the apple cart. This is your window, your opportunity to leapfrog less agile competitors, be they other job seekers or other companies. As we saw in the early 2000s with social media, the window doesn’t stay open for long, and once it closes, the winners are difficult to dislodge.
You could be one of those winners if you act now, if you skill up now. There isn’t a course or a book or a lecture to take, because they don’t exist yet. There’s only knowing what tools are coming in your industry and getting proficient with them now, building your community, your personal think tank so that your ear is to the ground and you’ve got early skills in your field.
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I’ve been lecturing a lot on large language models and generative AI (think ChatGPT) lately, and inevitably, there’s far more material than time permits at a regular conference keynote. There’s a lot more value to be unlocked – and that value can be unlocked by bringing me in to speak at your company. In a customized version of my AI keynote talk, delivered either in-person or virtually, we’ll cover all the high points of the talk, but specific to your industry, and critically, offer a ton of time to answer your specific questions that you might not feel comfortable asking in a public forum.
Here’s what one participant said after a working session at one of the world’s biggest consulting firms:
“No kidding, this was the best hour of learning or knowledge-sharing I’ve had in my years at the Firm. Chris’ expertise and context-setting was super-thought provoking and perfectly delivered. I was side-slacking teammates throughout the session to share insights and ideas. Very energizing and highly practical! Thanks so much for putting it together!”
Pricing begins at US$7,500 and will vary significantly based on whether it’s in person or not, and how much time you need to get the most value from the experience.
Believe it or not, July 1st, 2023 – and Google’s shutdown of Universal Analytics in favor of Google Analytics 4 – is in less than 35 calendar days. This means that in 38 days, you will no longer be able to capture data in Universal Analytics – it will just stop collecting data. If you haven’t already switched over, it’s urgent you do so right now. So, let’s get you moving.
The war to free Ukraine continues. If you’d like to support humanitarian efforts in Ukraine, the Ukrainian government has set up a special portal, United24, to help make contributing easy. The effort to free Ukraine from Russia’s illegal invasion needs our ongoing support.
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