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  • Almost Timely News, December 4, 2022: It Works If You Use It Correctly

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    What’s On My Mind: It Works If You Use It Correctly

    Even before the management change, there were a bounty of people on Twitter making bold, mostly false claims that masks don’t work to stop disease like COVID. They’d cite all kinds of reasons and explanations (almost all of which were totally unfounded in basic science) about why filtering the air you breathe was ineffective at stopping disease and why we shouldn’t bother.

    Now, lest you think this is a mistaken copy-paste from my pandemic newsletter, it’s not. Bear with me for a minute.

    Last week, when I was taking care of my COVID-positive parents, I was resolute in my belief that wearing a heavy-duty respirator in a hostile environment was scientifically sound, and I’m pleased to say that I was completely correct. I have been testing myself since I came back and have tested negative every time. What I did to stay safe worked.

    The thing is, the bad science crowd isn’t ENTIRELY wrong. There are conditions in which masks don’t work.

    When you wear a mask, if it does not form a good seal over your nose and mouth, it doesn’t work as well. It’s like having a screen door on your porch that you leave partway open and then wonder why there are mosquitos in your house. There’s nothing wrong with the screen door itself, but your implementation of it was less than effective.

    When you buckle a seatbelt so that it’s entirely underneath you and not over your body, and then crash your car and get flung through the windshield, the seatbelt didn’t work, right? Well, it didn’t stop you from going face first through the glass, but that’s because you used it entirely incorrectly.

    The crowd of folks who boldly claim that masks don’t work – how well do you suppose they use them? Do you suppose they use the best mask available to them and ensure each time they put it on that it’s sealed correctly, or do you suppose they wear it haphazardly, perhaps not even covering their nose or mouth? I’d wager large sums of money it’s mostly the latter.

    Okay, so what does this have to do with marketing and business? Substitute masks for the marketing strategy, tactic, or channel of your choice. Does the statement sound familiar?

    • “Email is dead.”
    • “Social media doesn’t work.”
    • “SEO is a waste of time.”
    • “Direct mail is a waste of money.”

    I’ll take a moment to snark that anyone who claims something is dead is usually trying to sell us something, and the moment we detect a conflict of interest, it’s safe to almost completely ignore the person.

    These statements should absolutely sound familiar. People have been making bold claims about every possible marketing method, that nothing works, that everything is dead. And yet the global economy seems to be chugging along and businesses are still making record profits, so something’s got to be working.

    Here’s the reality: like masks, marketing strategies and tactics don’t work if you use them incorrectly. Like masks, if you don’t know what you’re doing, you’re better off asking for help than simply giving up, especially if something important – like your job or your bonus – is on the line.

    But was it the case that the tool failed? Or did we fail to use it properly? Let’s take the example of saying that SEO is a waste of time. Is that actually true? It is true that Google keeps more clicks for itself than it ever has before, a trend spotted by Rand Fishkin as early as 2018. And yet when I look at the client reports I process every month, on an unpaid basis Google is almost always the single largest unpaid traffic driver.

    What about social media? Gary Vaynerchuk frequently and correctly says that you cannot claim social media is undermining democracy in one sentence and then say you can’t sell widgets in the next. If a tool isn’t working for us, chances are we’re not using it correctly.

    Sometimes it’s because we don’t know how to use the tool properly. Other times, even if we know how to operate the tool well, it’s the wrong tool for the job. A frying pan is an effective tool, but not for making soup. A blender is an effective tool, but not for making steak.

    This is the time of year when we start to look back at the year that was, start to examine what we’ve done, and make our best attempt to look at the year ahead for planning. The temptation will be strong to declare that certain strategies, tactics, and methods did or did not work – so a critical part of that declaration is determining whether or not something didn’t work because we failed to use it correctly.

    Here’s the critical part: once you’re free to admit that perhaps you didn’t use a tool correctly, that opens the door to learning how to use it better. It frees us to say, “okay, we still have a lot to learn, so let’s dig in” – rather than defending something that didn’t work.

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  • Almost Timely News, November 27, 2022: Gratitude, Thanks, and Contrast

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    What’s On My Mind: Gratitude, Thanks, and Contrast

    A little something different this week for the USA Thanksgiving holiday weekend. While everyone else is out binge shopping or dealing with turkey hangovers, let’s talk about gratitude and giving thanks. I’m sure you’ve waded through the emails from every company you’ve ever had contact with, and the piles of insincere thanks from them. I’ll start by being a curmudgeon: corporations cannot give thanks.

    What? How can I say that? It’s simple. Corporations cannot give thanks any more than robots can, because gratitude is an emotion, and emotions are the domain of the living. Your dog has emotions. Your fish has emotions. You have emotions. But a corporation isn’t a living entity. Anything without a central nervous system cannot have emotions, and corporations don’t have those.

    Gratitude, in our context as marketers and business folks, can only come from other living beings. So your company’s CEO can express gratitude, but the institution cannot, not in a real, meaningful way. You, as a marketer, can be thankful. I am personally thankful to you, that you’re paying even the slightest bit of attention to me at all.

    Okay, now that we’ve gotten the curmudgeonly part out of the way, let’s talk about gratitude some more. For years, I had trouble with the concept of gratitude. It was too abstract. Be thankful and grateful for what you have? Sure, that makes sense. But how do you bring that to life? Writing it down in a journal? Talking about it with friends? Those activities felt… performative. They felt like they were being done to showcase or highlight what I had, and didn’t feel like thankfulness or gratitude.

    When I think about thankfulness, about gratitude, I think about feeling relieved. Someone does something truly nice for you – how do you feel? If it’s something I needed help with, something I wanted respite from, I feel relief. Whew. Thank goodness someone helped me. Stranded on the side of the road and someone helps me change a tire? Relief. Thanks. Gratitude. Someone gives you a gift that’s heartfelt? Joy. Eagerness. Wow, look at this – this actually means something. When you give your dog a treat? Relief. Happiness. Eagerness. Maybe a little greed – hey, got any more of that?

    But the emotions are real, acute, heartfelt. You FEEL something in that thanks, in that gratitude.

    Thinking abstractly about your life and being grateful? I don’t know about you, but that exercise never made me FEEL anything. It was like reviewing lines in a spreadsheet.

    So here’s the hack that I found, the thing that makes me feel something. I think about the contrast. I think about whatever aspect of my life, and I think about the time when I didn’t have that, or when I nearly lost it.

    For example, I spent the last week caring for my elderly parents who were COVID positive. Watching how hard the disease hit them, sapping them of their strength and energy, sending my father to the hospital for a few days (he’s almost fully recovered, thankfully) – that highlights in sharp contrast my own health. I am thankful and grateful for my health because I see a living, sharp example of what the absence of health looks like, feels like in people I care about.

    When I think about prosperity, I think of the time four short years ago when I didn’t have any. When I started Trust Insights with Katie, I cashed out a healthy chunk of a retirement fund to pay the bills for the year, and I was living far below my means to make it through the year, to make ends meet without my family being heavily impacted. Those days are in the rear view mirror, but they are a sharp contrast to today, when the company is doing much better, when I don’t HAVE to calculate how much to spend at the grocery store.

    When I think about friendships, I think of the friendships I’ve lost, the people along the way that I’ve parted ways with, amicably and not so amicably. I think about what went wrong, and how much I valued those friends, and I feel that sense of appreciation, of relief, that the friends I have today are still with me.

    When I think about even the basics, I think of my friend Ann. She lives in Kyiv, Ukraine, and for the last 3 days, she’s had no electricity at all. Russians bombed the power stations in her part of the city, and there’s no way to know when they’ll get electricity back. And it’s literally freezing there. That I have heat and light, and she doesn’t – gratitude even for the basics. (donate to Ukraine 🇺🇦 through United24 if you’d like to help)

    Gratitude requires contrast, requires the opposite of what you have so that you understand its value and importance. When you have contrast, you feel so much more than a rote recitation of the things that are present in your life because you know, remember, or feel what their absence is like.

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    What makes this different than other training courses?

    • You’ll learn how Google Tag Manager and Google Data Studio form the essential companion pieces to Google Analytics 4, and how to use them all together
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    • You’ll learn how to determine if a migration was done correctly, and especially what things are likely to go wrong
    • You’ll even learn how to hire (or be hired) for Google Analytics 4 talent specifically, not just general Google Analytics
    • And finally, you’ll learn how to rearrange Google Analytics 4’s menus to be a lot more sensible because that bothers everyone

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  • Mind Readings: You Become the Company You Keep

    Mind Readings: You Become the Company You Keep

    If you want to improve your life, listen to people who will help you achieve the success you want. You don’t necessarily have to cut toxic people out of your life, but you can choose to listen to different, more helpful voices.

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    A man is known by the company he keeps.

    This is, of course, from ESOP of Aesop’s Fables 2500 years ago.

    And a whole bunch of motivational speakers and gurus and stuff have picked up various versions of this over the years, and put their own spin on it.

    The one that you’ll hear most often these days is something from you hear a lot from the sort of the tech, bro crowd, you become the average of the five people you hang out with the most right, the five people you surround yourself with the most.

    And the advice that people give frequently is, if you want to be more successful, hanging out with more successful people, if you want to be happy, you’re hanging out with happier people.

    And there is some truth to that.

    Certainly, if you you know, financial success is something that’s important to you.

    By default, if you’re hanging out with more successful people who financially you will probably see and hear things from them that would give you ideas, or practices or processes that you could use in your own life to to improve your your financial standing, you know, you’re hanging out at the bar.

    And your friends get to a discussion about cash flow analysis, and how positive cash flow is everything.

    If your your cash flow is positive, then you’re on your way to wealth, if your cash flow is negative, doesn’t how much money you have, you will eventually lose it all because that’s the way cash flow works.

    However, that advice that you become the, the average of the five people you hang out with most is often accompanied by very, very Pat, almost casual advice, that can be very difficult and disheartening for people and that advice is, well, you know, if you’re, if you’re not hanging out with successful people, get rid of them, get them out of your life, you know, if you’re hanging on negative people, get them out of your life, you know, cut those people out of your life.

    And, again, there is truth to that, if you are have friends who are very toxic people, it probably wouldn’t be a bad idea to spend less time with those folks.

    However, and this is the challenge with this advice.

    Not everyone’s circumstances allow them to make those dramatic changes, at least not quickly, particularly if the person or people that you have in mind that are creating challenges for you are people that you actually care about, you know, a parent, a child, a sibling, a dear friend from from years past, to just run with that advice blindly say, Yeah, you’re out of my life you’re out of here, is not necessarily all that practical.

    So here’s a slightly different spin.

    Instead of focusing on the five people you hang out with the most right, and the company that you keep, think about who you listen to most who are the five people you listen to the most.

    And again, if those five people are people that are putting a lot of less helpful stuff in your head, listen to different people.

    And I don’t mean, you know, remove them from your life.

    I mean, this lovely device here contains the voices of millions, if not billions, of people.

    on Twitch on YouTube, on the podcast app of your choice, there is so much good free content from people that probably you’d like to emulate probably whose success you would like to have for yourself, whatever success means whether it’s better relationships, more money, more free time, better health, you name it, whatever success means there’s voices on this device that will help reprogram your head a little bit.

    And give you more ideas give you a different way of looking at things.

    So instead of worrying about the five people you hang out with most, think about the five people you listen to the most.

    And the majority of time that you spend listening to folks, is folks who are not helping you achieve whatever success means for you.

    Open this thing up, find that person or those people on YouTube, then their podcasts and their blogs or whatever.

    And listen to them more.

    Right? Find a meditation teacher, if you’re stressed, find a yoga teacher if you’re not feeling flexible, find whoever and use this technology use those voices to start changing how you want your world to work.

    And you can do this without again having to make dramatic changes and you’re telling your mom you’re out of here ever you’re useless.

    But listening to the people that will reprogram your head and put more and better materials in your head.

    And again, you don’t have to go hang out with them.

    You don’t have to buy their $599 course or whatever if they’ve got a message they’ve got have probably a ton of free content.

    Take your greatest hits the stuff that means the most to you.

    Download it, put it on your device, put in your earphones and listen, feed your brain with that stuff.

    And the change that you’re looking for will happen over time, it might not happiness as as fast as I can hear, you just got rid of all your relatives.

    But the change will start to happen as you get those different points of view as you get those different inputs into your head.

    So a person is known by the company that keeps to some degree, but a person becomes the company you listen to most.

    So if you want more of something in your life, listen to more of that in the on the channel of your choice that it’s out there, it’s waiting for you.

    Go and get it.

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  • Mind Readings: AI Bill of Rights, Part 4: Notice and Explanation

    Mind Readings: AI Bill of Rights, Part 4: Notice and Explanation

    The AI Bill of Rights published by the United States White House proposes that people should have the right to know if an automated system is being used and to understand how and why it contributes to outcomes that impact them. Designers, developers, and deployers of automated systems should provide generally accessible plain language documentation, including clear descriptions of the overall system functioning, and the role automation plays.

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    Welcome to part four of our examination of the AI Bill of Rights published by the United States White House, as proposed regulations for essentially the use of AI, and the rights that people should have when it comes to the use of AI.

    It today we’re going to talk about notice an explanation.

    So let’s dig into this one.

    You should know that an automated system is being used and understand how and why it contributes to outcomes that impact you, designers, developers, and deploys of automated systems should provide generally accessible plain language documentation, including clear descriptions of the overall system functioning, and the role automation plays.

    Notice that such systems are in use the individual or the organization responsible for the system, and explanations of outcomes that are clear, timely and accessible.

    All right, so this one is pretty straightforward, right? If a system is being used, that’s automated, you should know how it’s how it works, right? You should know what’s in the box.

    And you should be able to say let’s let’s perhaps not use this if it’s not working right or at the very least be able to explain the outcomes.

    Let’s look at a couple of the examples that they give in the paper number one lawyer representing an older client with disabilities who had been cut off a medicated fund to home health care systems couldn’t determine why, especially since the decision went against historical access practices.

    In a court hearing, the lawyer learned from a witness that the state in which the older client lived had recently adopted a new algorithm to determine eligibility.

    The lack of a timely explanation made it harder to understand and contest the decision.

    A formal child welfare investigation is opened against a parent based on an algorithm and without the parent ever being notified that data was being collected and used as part of an algorithmic child maltreatment risk assessment.

    The lack of a notice or an explanation makes it harder for those performing children maltreatment assessments to validate the risk assessment and denies parents knowledge that could help them contested decision.

    Number three, a predictive policing system claims to identify individuals at the greatest risk to commit or become the victim of gun violence based on an automated analysis of social ties to gang members, criminal histories, previous experiences of gun violence and other factors, and led to individuals being placed on a watch list with no explanation or public transparency regarding how the system came to its conclusions.

    Both police and the public deserves to understand why and how such a system is making these determinations.

    A system awarding benefits changed, it’s great to invisibly individuals were denied benefits due to data entry errors and other system flaws.

    These flaws were only revealed when an explanation of the system was demanded and produced, the lack of an explanation made it harder for errors to be corrected in a timely manner.

    So this is about black boxes, right? As we use more and more sophisticated decision systems as we use more and more sophisticated AI like deep neural networks, there’s more and more that we don’t understand about what’s going on inside of the machine.

    And this is part of the reason why there’s a major push towards interpretability and explainability.

    In the context of AI interpretability means you have the ability to look at the code that is at use and diagnose it line by line, here’s what this line of code does, here’s what this line of code does, and so on and so forth.

    explainability is looking at the outcome and being able to explain the outcome, here’s how the machine arrived at these conclusions.

    The challenge that people are running into right now, and that tech companies in particular are very resistant to to go the interpretability route is that interpretability is dramatically more expensive for companies to do.

    Because deep learning systems, you can audit them, you know, layer by layer, but it’s computationally very, very expensive to do so.

    So you have a lot of big tech companies saying no, no explainability is all you need.

    Which is not true.

    Because, again, these deep neural networks are basically, if you don’t build interpretability, and they just big black boxes, and you don’t know how the system is making its decisions, all you know, is whether the decisions make sense or not.

    The classic example of this is that researchers trained in image recognition algorithm to differentiate a wolf from a dog right and they fed it hundreds of photos of wolves and dogs and the system performed really well in in theory, and then they started feeding it real life stuff, and it failed all over the place.

    And when someone went back and built interpretability into the system, like there was no way to explain the outcome.

    But when they built interpretability into the system at again, considerable performance penalty.

    It turns out the system was not looking for dogs or wolves or ears or jaw shape or stuff.

    It was looking for snow, if there was snow in the photo was a wolf, at least in the training dataset.

    And so the decision system behind the scenes was making decisions based on a non relevant factor.

    That’s fine.

    You know, obviously if you’re building an image recognition system for wolves, that’s not so fine if you’re building systems that impact people’s lives.

    So, even within marketing, right, who you market to has an impact.

    I was talking to an insurance company a number of years ago.

    And they were building a system to identify ideal customers, their ideal customers to them were people of certain affluent means.

    And the ugly reality in the United States of America is that money tends to also have a very high correlation with race.

    And as a result, the system they built, even though theoretically, it was not discriminating on race in practice, it absolutely was.

    And so they effectively invented redlining.

    Another company, I saw in at one of the MAR tech shows build a predictive algorithm for ideal best customers for Dunkin Donuts.

    I don’t know if Dunkin was actually a client of theirs.

    They were just using it as a demo.

    But they showed us this map of the city of Boston said, here’s all the red dots.

    Those are the areas we’re your ideal customers aren’t.

    Here’s the black dots where there aren’t ideal customers.

    And I looked at this map.

    And I said, You invented redlining again, and like what’s that, like, for God’s sakes? They were essentially using I believe was income spending patterns.

    But it also perfectly replicated the demographics of Boston.

    Areas like Mattapan, Roxbury, Dorchester had no ideal customers, right because they’re predominantly black areas of the city.

    They are also lower income areas of the city, but they’re predominantly black areas of the city.

    Places like Cambridge Somerville, Boston, the financial district, all ideal customers.

    Now, if you know anything about Dunkin Donuts, coffee, the only people in Boston who don’t drink Dunkin Donuts are dead.

    Everybody else, regardless of race, ethnicity, any any protected class, everybody ascertain six significant portion of the population for every demographic drinks Dunkin Donuts, right.

    So their algorithm was flat out wrong, it was it was discriminatory and wrong.

    And there was no explanation of how it worked.

    And that’s what this principle of of AI Bill of Rights is really all about.

    It is about.

    Can you explain how your system is making decisions? Think about this go into your marketing automation system, right? Or your CRM as a marketer? Do you know how the lead scoring system works? Can you explain it, you explain to somebody yes, you have a lead score of this, you were selected for this, you receive this email.

    Because of this.

    I have had even in my own stuff just for my personal newsletter, I’ve had to go digging around in my own system to figure out why somebody was getting an email from me when they said they didn’t want it.

    And I dug into it.

    And there actually been some alarming cases of bots submitting other people’s data, I was looking at this one person who’s based in Amsterdam, and there was there was what looks like bot traffic from a server farm somewhere in the USA here that submitted their information at a time that they wouldn’t have been online, subscribing to my newsletter.

    And I can’t go back and hunt down exactly where that went.

    But I have at least the IP logs to trace down.

    But if I hadn’t been able to explain, I fail to dig into my system, I could have been held liable for a violation of of an international law.

    That’s the thing is that for us as marketers, we’ve got to understand us systems, we got to know what systems are, what they’re doing, what decisions they’re making, you know, how does somebody have a lead or B lead in our system, right? Because you don’t want to discriminate if you are adhering to in the United States, title nine laws.

    And your system is saying someone’s a better lead than someone else because of a protected class factor, like what gender they are, you’re breaking the wall.

    Right? And that’s that’s going to get you in a whole bunch of trouble.

    So you’ve got to know what’s going on in your systems be able to explain it, defend it, and then if there’s a problem, deal with it, deal with it.

    So this is a very good principle and requiring explainability requiring interpretability of AI systems is essential.

    And again, big vendors are going to resist this like crazy because it is expensive to do.

    But the first lawsuit they lose you know for a billion dollars might convince them otherwise so that there may be some change on that front, but to protect yourself.

    Know how your systems work.

    Know how your vendor systems work, require transparency from them require technical details from them if they’re unwilling to provide those details.

    You may have to change vendors, your legal department and your finance department certainly will advise you change vendors if it is creating substantial risk to your company so be aware of those risks as well in the in the final section of the AI Bill of Rights we’re going to talk about human alternatives so stay tuned for that if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button


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  • Mind Readings: AI Bill of Rights, Part 1: Safe and Effective Systems

    Mind Readings: AI Bill of Rights, Part 1: Safe and Effective Systems

    The government has proposed an AI Bill of Rights that outlines five fundamental rights that individuals should have when subjected to the outputs of AI systems. The first right is the right to safe and effective systems, which means that individuals should be protected from unsafe or ineffective systems. Automated systems should be developed with consultation from diverse community stakeholders and domain experts to identify concerns, risks and potential impacts of the system.

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    In this five part series, we’re going to take a look at the proposed AI Bill of Rights, and see what’s in the box, see what commentary we can offer about this document.

    Now, you probably want to get a copy of this to read along, and I’ll put a link in the in the notes below.

    But this is an important document for anybody who’s working with artificial intelligence, machine learning data science systems.

    In particular, in marketing, if you are using any kind of marketing automation software, or CRM software that has machine learning and artificial intelligence built in from automated lead scoring to anything else, you should know what’s in this document.

    This was released by the White House just a couple of months ago.

    And while it as a whole does not carry the force of law, yet, there are many provisions with it that are already covered by existing laws.

    And that’s one of the reasons why we want to take a look at this document.

    Also, full disclosure, and disclaimer, I’m not a lawyer, right? If you want a lawyer on AI, go talk to Ruth Carter, go to Geek law firm.com.

    For that, I’m not a lawyer, this is not legal advice.

    But we are going to talk about some of the implications that could happen if your business is not doing things as ethically or as aligned with the law as you should be.

    So there could be legal penalties for not using artificial intelligence in the right way.

    five part series because there are five fundamental AI rights that are in this document.

    And I think it’s important to point out, this is not a document about machines becoming sentient and having their own rights.

    This is about the rights of individuals, human beings, when subjected to the outputs of AI systems.

    So that important clarification.

    So let’s dig in right number one, safe and effective systems.

    You should be protected from unsafe or ineffective systems, automated systems should be developed with consultation from diverse community stakeholders and domain experts to identify concerns, risks and potential impacts of the system.

    Now, one of the things I really like about this document is that it’s not just theoretical.

    In each of the sections that we’re going to talk through, there are examples of the kinds of things that each write is supposed to mitigate or prevent.

    So in this one for safe and effective systems, the first counter example is a proprietary model was developed to predict the likelihood of sepsis in hospitalized patients and was implemented at hundreds of hospitals around the country.

    An independent study showed that the model predictions underperformed relative to the designers claims will also cause an alert fatigue by falsely alerting likelihood of sepsis.

    Example two on social media black people who quote and criticize racist messages have had their own speech silenced when a platform is automated moderation system failed to distinguish counter speech, or other critique and journalism.

    From the original hateful messages to which such speech responded.

    Pretty shot wins Facebook.

    Number three, a device originally developed to help people track and find lost items has been used as a tool by stalkers to track victims locations in violation of their privacy and safety.

    The device manufacturer took steps after release to protect people from unwanted tracking by alerting people on their phones when the device is found to be moving with them over time.

    And also by having the device make an occasional noise.

    But not all phones are able to receive the notification.

    And the devices remain a safety concern due to their misuse that would be Apple’s air tags.

    And it was a relatively recent thing.

    Number four, an algorithm used to deploy police was found to repeatedly send police to neighborhoods they regularly visit even if those neighborhoods were not the ones with the highest crime rates.

    These incorrect crime predictions were the result of a feedback loop generated from the reuse of data from previous arrests and algorithm predictions.

    So this first one safe and effective systems is a good idea.

    I mean, all of these are good ideas that some of them are going to be harder to implement than others.

    safe and effective systems is a pretty as slam dunks go for AI.

    This one seems to be a pretty safe one.

    Your system should do what it says it does.

    Right? And the outcomes.

    One of the reasons why this right is necessary to even be discussed is because nobody who’s building AI systems in these examples and these examples is asking the very simple straightforward question, What could go wrong, right? You make a tracking device.

    And don’t anticipate that someone could misuse it right? How could somebody turn the system against its intended use? How could somebody use off label? What are the things that you could use that you wouldn’t want your system to be used for? Say, maybe you make a social network and it’s being used to undermine democracies around the world that seems like an unintended use.

    Now, here’s the challenge.

    And this is something that the guide only peripherally discusses.

    It talks a lot about things like consultation, independent audits, evaluation, regular reporting, and things like that.

    But there needs to be legislation in place to create penalties for violating these rights.

    Because right now there isn’t right now there’s, there’s no penalty for Facebook, undermining democracy, there’s no penalty for Apple making air tags that can be used by stalkers, there’s no punishment.

    For bad actors and bad actors.

    Most of the time, when it comes to AI technology are the technology manufacturers.

    There are obviously individuals who misuse the technology, right? They they intend to use it in ways that are not authorized.

    But there also needs to be some level of liability for the manufacturer of the technology, or this is all just nice thoughts, right? This is the AI equivalent of thoughts and prayers, it doesn’t do anything.

    If in the process of building a system, you have a committee internally that says, hey, how could this thing be misused, and somebody highlights, hey, you could use this to stalk somebody, and then you don’t take steps to mitigate that you should absolutely be held liable for it, you should absolutely be held liable for creating something that someone highlighted this could be a potential problem, and realistically potential problem by putting a tracking tag in someone else’s luggage.

    That’s not like sci fi, right? That’s not some crazy James Bond.

    Thriller, which is totally unrealistic.

    No, it’s very realistic.

    That’s very easy.

    Taking a tracking tag and taping it to somebody’s car bumper, that’s not really realistic.

    That’s been in like every spy movie since the 1960s.

    So when we’re talking about artificial intelligence systems, we’re talking about how are the ways that it could be misused now, and the big question that we have to ask with all these systems is, how can they create unsafe outcomes? Right? What are the outcomes that would be inappropriate? What are the outcomes that ways you can misuse these systems? For example.

    Deep fakes, has been a, a differential use of technology.

    For a long time, the initial purpose was adult entertainment, but has since been used to simulate world leaders saying things literally putting words in their mouths, they didn’t say, as a propaganda tool.

    The systems and their manufacturers that enable that to some degree have to be have a part of the accountability, the init, in order for these these regulations to have teeth.

    Now, the catches for some of this is going to be open source systems.

    Open source systems, by definition do not have a level of accountability.

    Right? You release some your software to the public, you say here it is public, do with it, what you will we expressly disclaim any liability.

    And we provide no support or help, right? It’s just here’s the thing.

    With AI, that’s becoming a challenge, right? services and systems like Hugging Face is transformers, T, the T five transformers, the GPT, Neo X models, Stable Diffusion, these are all open source products, they’re given away freely, anyone can take them and reuse them.

    And like any other tool, some people are going to misuse them.

    So there is no provision right now in any of this document for dealing with the question of open source.

    Because what you don’t want to do is you don’t want to stifle open source development either.

    It is responsible for a substantial amount of the progress in the space academia open source, that’s been the case for decades.

    So there has to be that part as well.

    But overall, the safe and effective system seems pretty logical.

    And our takeaway, as people who operate these systems is, what could go wrong? How could we be misusing the systems we’re using them from in ways that are unanticipated? Or What harm could we do with a system and not realize it? For example, I met with an insurance company a few years at a conference.

    And they were talking about how proud they were they’ve developed a system that would only market to specific segments of the audience, because they wanted to get only the best customers and unfortunately, they reinvented redlining in the process, which is the act of discriminating against certain demographics within a city Again no one was there to ask Hey How could this thing be misused and clearly in this case it was so that’s part one Stay tuned next up will be part two on algorithmic discrimination if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Infographic Tactics in 2022?

    You Ask, I Answer: Infographic Tactics in 2022?

    Adrienne asks, “I’ve seen some good examples of Data and the use of infographics in Pr and lends themselves to social. Still a tactic in 2022?”

    Tactics always work. It’s how well they’re executed that matters. Infographics are just a tactic and if done well, they can be very effective. However, if the data is invalid or if the infographic is confusing, it will not be effective.

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    In this episode and asks candy corn yes or no? Now, they look like teeth and it tastes like wax.

    Next question.

    Adrian asks, I’ve seen some good examples of data and the use of infographics and public relations and social media.

    Is this still a valid tactic in 2022? Yeah.

    Well, here’s the thing about tactics, tactics always work.

    It’s how well, they’re executed that matters is how good you are at them, right? It’s like, is frying still a valid method of cooking in 2022? Yes, of course it is.

    Unless you’re an idiot.

    And you’ll you stick your hand in the fryer, the no huge under no circumstances, be frying anything.

    Infographics are just a tactic.

    They’re a method of condensing and distributing data.

    And so if you’re good at it, if you’re good at putting together something that tells a good story that is appealing to look at that is helpful and useful and valuable, it will absolutely work.

    The reason for your question is because there’s a whole bunch of people out there, particularly in the public relations field, who are really bad at infographics, they create infographics that are just confusing to look at.

    They don’t say anything, or they do say something that’s blatantly self serving, the data of the underlying data is invalid.

    This has been especially a problem with surveys, I can’t tell you the number of times that I have talked to a public relations person about serving data, and how to explain basic mathematics like, No, you can’t add up certain percentages, you just can’t do that.

    And so we have seen over the last 10 years, in particular, last really last five years, but especially the last 10 years.

    Infographics went from something novel as a format to something pretty trite.

    But that doesn’t mean they don’t work, it just means that you have to be better at them than you have in the past, you have to be really creative.

    You have to partner with good designers, right? People who are visual communicators, if that’s not you, you have to partner with really good designers to distill down and tell the kind of story you want with data, you have to, you’ve got to have good data.

    Right? If the data you’re putting together and an infographic makes no sense or is too hard to understand, which is something I’m guilty of a lot, then it doesn’t land people look at and they don’t understand it.

    One of my favorite infographics of all time that I did, was mapping the size of social networks to the Kingdoms of Westeros Game of Thrones, like, here’s how large this social network is this social network is, it was so so much fun, we actually made like a wall painting of it.

    That was pretty easy to understand.

    People could look at that and understand Oh, this is, that’s how big, you know, Facebook really is? Or how big WhatsApp really is.

    It’s the size of whatever the Lannisters controlled.

    And so it’s just a question of, of developing those storytelling skills with data.

    That makes it a working tactic.

    And again, there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of garbage.

    There’s a lot of mediocre stuff, too.

    One of the things that we don’t talk about enough in content marketing is your contents got to add value somehow.

    Right.

    One of the things that is in Google’s webmaster guidelines, the search quality rating, rater guidelines that I thought was really insightful was the middle score, which is pretty much guaranteed to not have you show up well in search.

    There was this expression they wrote says nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    Right? That is sort of like the doomed category of content in their search quality rating islands.

    Nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    When you look at an infographic that isn’t done well.

    You look at it, okay, nothing wrong with nothing special.

    And that’s I think, is the worst.

    I think I think that’s even that’s even worse than a bad infographic because a bad infographic it’s like, you know, a bad movie after a certain point.

    It’s funny, right after certain points, like, that’s so bad that it’s actually good.

    But when you get into the the territory of the mediocre, that just doesn’t stand out that doesn’t do anything like Wow, your eyes are sort of slide off into the next thing.

    And that’s really dangerous.

    That is really dangerous YouTube content marketing because again, if

    if people notice something thing, good or bad? You’ve gotten their attention for at least for a little while.

    But if you put something out that is bland that is unremarkable, you’re not gonna get any action on it no heat whatsoever.

    You won’t get critics you won’t get fans you just get nothing.

    Take a look at the feedback you get about your marketing now, in your customer service inbox, in your email inbox in your newsletter and marks in your social media.

    inboxes.

    What feedback are you getting? Are you getting people like yeah, I really enjoyed that PSA.

    Well, that was good, or that was really wrong.

    I don’t I didn’t like that.

    I think you’re wrong about that thing.

    Or are you getting nothing? Nothing but crickets.

    If you’re not getting feedback, good or bad.

    You’re you’re content marketing has fallen flat.

    And an infographic will not help that it will not fix that because whatever is fundamentally wrong with your marketing is going to spread to every tactic that you try, right? If you are working with bad ingredients, it doesn’t matter whether you fry Baker boil, it’s still bad ingredients.

    So infographics absolutely still work in 2022.

    If you’re good at them, just like email still works just like direct postal mail still works.

    If you’re good at it in 2022.

    The challenge is you’ve got to be good at it.

    And that is the mountain we all have to climb.

    Thanks for asking.

    No more candy coin.

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  • Mind Readings: Peer Pressure

    Mind Readings: Peer Pressure

    At a recent event I was at, I spoke to someone who had some very interesting things to say about why they don’t wear a mask.

    Summary:

    In today’s episode, the speaker is talking about peer pressure. He was at an event recently, where he was wearing a mask, and his colleague said that he felt pressure not to wear a mask because nobody else was. The speaker was stunned, and he thought about how much the opinion of somebody else matters to him. He decided that he was going to live his life the way he wanted to, and not let the opinions of others dictate his choices.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about let’s talk about peer pressure.

    I was at an event recently, and as, as I do, I was wearing my super heavy duty Gentex ops core mask my tactical respirator, which makes me look like bein really cool, very comfortable.

    And I was at a party.

    And this colleague of mine says, oh, man, look at you, representing wearing a mask via doing the right thing.

    And this person was saying, you know, my, my partner was on my case, making sure that was going to wear a mask this week.

    And he goes, but I just I just feel such peer pressure when I’m at these things to not wear masks because nobody else’s.

    And you do this, imagine a needle on the record scratching noise my, my like, what? What episode, did you What did you decide to do? Just say, you feel peer pressure to not wear a mask.

    I was stunned.

    I was absolutely stunned.

    I appreciated my colleagues, you know, honesty.

    And it doesn’t matter to me one way or the other, whether somebody else wears a mask around me I wear a mask because a it keeps me safe and be really cool.

    And see it’s super comfortable.

    And so I have no, I really don’t care one way or the other, whether someone else is wearing a mask around me or not.

    doesn’t make me feel better or worse in any event, but listening to that person say that they felt such peer pressure as as a grown adult, right as a, because this person is probably around my age, my other 40s I was speechless.

    absolutely speechless.

    How much does the opinion of somebody else matter to you? I did not say this out loud to my friend because I just wanted to let them enjoy their evening.

    But that’s that’s what occurred to me.

    How much does someone else’s opinion matter to you is it matter so much, that in a pandemic, which we’re still in, as of 2022, you would take additional risk, which you could avoid, you could avert, but you don’t, because you value the opinions of other people more than you value taking care of yourself.

    And we see this play out in so many different aspects of life, right? We see people by status objects, cars, and houses and all sorts of things.

    Because of the, the gratification, the stimulus that they get from their peers, about what their purchase, right, it makes them feel better about themselves.

    And to me, that seems like something we should have left behind a while ago.

    Right? Like it was totally normal in high school.

    You know, we were in our teens, who had the coolest backpack or the nicest clothes or whatever.

    But once you get out and about in the world, and you start realizing that the only person who’s really responsible for your happiness is you.

    That stuff should start to fade away, that stuff should start to fall apart when realizing that somebody else’s opinion of you, particularly if that person is not paying you money, or involved with you in a romantic relationship or intimate relationship.

    Why does their opinion matter? If I go to an event, and everyone else is not wearing a mask, I’m wearing a mask because I like it.

    It doesn’t occur to me to think Oh, Gosh, I wonder if these other people are gonna think of me, I don’t really care.

    I mean, not to say that.

    I don’t appreciate the people around me, but their opinion has nothing to do with me and my opinion has nothing to do with them.

    Right? Whether or not somebody else is wearing a mask again, doesn’t matter to me.

    I can express my opinion to them if they asked for it.

    I don’t feel the need to express my opinion, if they don’t because it’s otherwise not my business.

    So do you live your life the way you want to, I live my life the way I want to, but to have someone and this is, you know, we’re this is a group of folks who are similar to me, we’re all public speakers, we’re all reasonably well known with our industry.

    Christopher Penn 5:19

    Just to hear that expression of still feeling peer pressure at four decades of age, was really shocking.

    And my hope, my hope is that for all of us, that’s something that we transcend, that’s something we leave behind, right to say, you know, what, I’m going to dress the way I want, or I’m going to be involved in relationships with the people I want, I’m going to wear the protective measures that I want pandemic, and be okay with that and be okay with you if other people like, Oh, he’s wearing a mask.

    So what I was thinking about why this stuff doesn’t bother me as much.

    And I think it has a lot to do with the martial arts experience I’ve had over the last 30 some odd years.

    You realize very quickly, that when you’re for example, my my black belt test was basically an organized mugging.

    It gives you a lot of perspective.

    When you’re sitting in a room full of people, and they’re not beating you up, it’s like, okay, cool.

    This is great.

    You know, someone’s saying, Oh, well, you know, look at Chris, he’s got that weird mask.

    Yeah.

    And you’re not punching me in the face.

    So I feel like things are going pretty well, compared to some of the days I’ve had.

    You know, if there’s somebody at this for guys, like, holding me down, somebody’s punching me in the face.

    That’s pretty severe.

    Right? That’s, that’s feedback that is harder to deal with, than somebody saying, you know, making snarky remarks about what I’m wearing.

    So I hope that in your own life, if peer pressure is something that bothers you, that you can find the perspective you need to free yourself from it to to put in a little box and put it aside and say, You know what, I’m gonna do the things that make me happy.

    When things make me feel safe.

    One of the things that you enjoy, and whatever someone else’s opinion of it is.

    They’re entitled to their opinion, but they’re not entitled to make you change because of their opinion.

    So give that some thought, because that’s important.

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    One of my favorite events of the year, Content Marketing World, has come and gone. Let’s do some room temperature takes on the big themes and my reactions to them.

    Why room temperature takes? Because “hot takes” implies rapid and vigorous reactions, and these are neither.

    Robert Rose: “Even search is inefficient now. TikTok has conditioned us and our audiences that good content will be delivered to us automatically.”

    Robert’s TikTok example is amplified by so many trends in marketing right now. Google’s One Box search results, featured snippets, and other delivery mechanisms causing zero click search results. Facebook and Instagram mimicking the TikTok method of content delivery. Even the venerable newsletter – everything’s about reducing friction. And nothing reduces friction between the creator and the consumer like giving the consumer what they want before they have to ask for it.

    Drew Davis: “Here the simple strategy of just answering obvious questions is badly outdated because it’s low value commodity content. Instead answer rarely asked questions.”

    Drew’s premise for content marketing is to create content for specific, narrow personas at the top of the org chart instead of broad content that’s a commodity like frequently asked questions for junior practitioners. The content he’s proposing has little to no SEO value because only a handful of people are searching for something, but it can have enormous impact if you can get it to them. In some aspects, it’s reminiscent of category design, where you try to identify very niche ideas and blow them out into something big.

    Joe Pulizzi: “Lease space. Add new content to existing feeds and audiences instead of creating new properties. Almost like advertorial.”

    This is a common sense tactic that we see channels like First We Feast enact with great success. Instead of starting up new properties and new audiences from scratch, using existing inventory and audiences. For example, in my YouTube feed, you’ll see several different shows that serve one audience – You Ask, I Answer, Mind Readings, So What?, and travel related stuff. If I were to split them out, I’d end up fragmenting my audience. Joe’s suggestion is to do the reverse – and even consider incorporating related content from others (with their permission) in your feed if it’s relevant.

    Ann Handley: “Brand voice test: if you cover up the logo, can someone tell it’s your content?”

    This is the classic white label test that we’ve been talking about for over a decade – and yet, so few brands do this well. Ask yourself this – if you didn’t know your company’s newsletter or blog came from your company, could it just as easily be a competitor’s?

    Mike Allton: “The key to high volume content creation: idea capture on any device at any time. Never let an idea get away.”

    These days, with the advent of smart watches, smart phones, smart speakers, etc. there’s literally no excuse at all to let an idea vanish on you. Capture it somehow; I’m a big fan of the free Joplin app because it syncs across all my devices and I can faceroll my ideas into a central repository anywhere.

    Mark Harrison: “A vision statement is a vision: you can see it, you chase it, but you never catch it.”

    I loved Mark’s description of what a vision really is.

    Ashley Zeckman: “RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOT CAMPAIGNS. Stop treating influencer programs as one off initiatives.”

    This point grinds on me for more than just influence. There’s a conference that sets up new communities before every single major event – and then promptly abandons those communities the moment the closing keynote is done. Why? Because the organizers no longer see the conference community as something they can harvest for revenue, and their primary push is to force everyone into their paid community instead.

    It’s fine to ask for money. But don’t bait and switch people – ask for money up front so people know what they’re getting into.

    Andy Crestodina: “Specificity correlates with conversion.”

    Andy’s talk as usual was filled with practical advice, but I thought this aphorism was especially useful. How many things do we have on our websites and marketing collateral that are generic? Harkening back to Ann’s talk, if you covered up the context on a page, could an audience member tell what the value was? “Contact us” really doesn’t say anything – and it’s self-centered. “Get help with your marketing analytics today” says a lot more, and it’s not something that, say, Home Depot would have on their site.

    My talk: Content attribution is about what content works. Channel attribution is about where content works. Content is the ingredient, channel is the cooking method – and you need good ingredients and good methods to deliver.

    I’ll be blunt, I felt like my talk went poorly. Despite rehearsal, it was shorter than I wanted it to be and I feel like the key points were muddled, so that talk goes back into the shop for reworking.

    One final observation from the event as a whole and from evidence in my session specifically. I feel like we’ve rebooted marketing, and not in a good way. Listening to questions, listening to conversations, I felt like the overall audience had lost a lot of institutional knowledge, that the audience wasn’t as advanced in their marketing journey as they were prior to the pandemic.

    For example, I asked at one point how many people were familiar with Google Analytics’ UTM parameters. Almost every hand went up. That was great. Then I asked how many people use them consistently and regularly – and I lost 95% of the hands. Using UTM tracking codes dates back to 2005 – this is in no way a new concept, and yet the audience wasn’t following through on even the most basic of marketing attribution tasks.

    This is bad news for marketing, especially marketing operations. Marketing isn’t getting easier or less complex – but if our ability to work in challenging, complex environments has diminished, then we’re poorly set up for success.

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    What’s On My Mind: How To Determine High-Value Topics

    Let’s say you’re getting ready to write a book or put together a big presentation. Lots of people have excellent guides about the process itself, such as my friend Tamsen Webster’s Find the Red Thread process. But relatively few tackle figuring out what the topic should be in the first place. So I thought I’d share a few different things I do to figure out topics and ideas; hopefully they’ll be helpful to you, especially if you’ve been asked to come up with a topic for a book or a conference talk.

    The first step is a bit of self-awareness. What are the topics and areas where you have actual expertise of some kind to share? You can’t build with materials you don’t have, so that part comes first. The best place to figure this out? Your inbox. What are the topics and discussions you’re giving advice or perspective on all the time? What do people need your help with most frequently? At work, what do people stop by your desk to ask about all the time?

    Here’s a good one: what are you really tired of answering?

    The second step is to listen. A lot. Go listen to conversations in hallways at conferences. Go listen to questions and answers from others on the topic, if there are any. Go hang out on Reddit, in Discord or Slack, anywhere people can have real conversations, and listen to the questions being asked and the answers being given.

    What questions do you have a better answer for?

    Here’s one of my favorite secret questions I ask myself: what answers do I disagree with most, perhaps even vigorously? The more I have an emotional reaction to something, the more I know there’s something there worth exploring.

    If you already do a lot of writing, check your analytics! What are the topics that have captured the attention of your audience already?

    Google Analytics 4 screenshot

    If you don’t have any of that, take a look at your favorite SEO tool to see what people are Googling for, and use that as a jumping off point, especially Google’s “people also ask” questions.

    The third step is to extend your idea. Adjacency is one of the most power idea-growing tools we have, and it’s based on your subject matter expertise. When someone’s talking about problems they’re having, do they really have just those problems, or is there an underlying root problem? At lunch this week, a colleague asked why I thought companies had so many heterogenous data problems and I said the real problem is the people using the systems. The systems and data complexity is just a symptom of a much bigger problem.

    With your topic, what’s the next logical step, the next logical magnification of the problem? How big does the impact get if you don’t address it? For example, the EU essentially ruled that the use of Google Analytics 3 within the EU is flat out illegal, and several nations have litigated cases against it, such as France’s CNIL. What are the logical consequences of this? If Google Analytics, and the fundamental technologies it is based on are illegal, what else is illegal? Your SaaS marketing automation software, if it has a similar technical architecture, probably is. So is your CRM. We’re still waiting to see if the EU agrees that Google Analytics 4 solves the problems found in Google Analytics 3 or not.

    From there, you could expand the topic to compliant technologies or privacy-friendly analytics alternatives like marketing mix modeling – but the point is that adjacency is what helps you showcase your knowledge.

    The fourth step is to experiment with low-risk content. Before you sacrifice 18 months of your sanity writing a book or hundreds of hours building a course, write a newsletter article. Put up a YouTube video. Conduct a webinar. Publish a short whitepaper. If your idea in a smaller form doesn’t get any traction, you can be fairly certain making it bigger won’t make it better. My friend Jay Baer does talks on a topic for a year and collects audience reactions from it – then he writes the book if there’s enough interest.

    Last week I started promoting the paper on private social media communities. I had initially set out to write a book about it, but I wasn’t sure it was worth it, so I made a paper instead. And you downloaded it like crazy and replied, commented, and asked questions so… looks like a book is on the horizon for it after all.

    Of course, the fifth and final step is to do it, to make the idea real. To write the book, to deliver the talk, to build the course – and then use the feedback you get to make an even better version 2.

    But as with any process, skipping straight to the end probably isn’t the best idea, so take the process I’ve outlined above to identify a topic and then see how viable it is for a big project. This method will save you a lot of time and heartache!

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  • Mind Readings: Swimming in Idiotic Conspiracies

    Mind Readings: Swimming in Idiotic Conspiracies

    The single biggest intellectual mistake of the last 50 years is the assumption that all opinions and points of view are valid and deserve attention.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about why we are swimming in idiotic conspiracies like we are drowning in these things.

    There’s so many to pick from to.

    But some of the weirder ones are things, you know, traditional ones you’ve seen as almost as internet memes now, like people who believe the moon landing was faked, or people who believe the world is literally flat, not a tabloid sphere.

    Why? How did we get here? How did this? How did any of these things gain any kind of traction? This will be mildly political.

    But I would argue that the single biggest intellectual mistake of the last 50 years particularly in the culture, I live in the United States of America.

    Is this unfounded? And I think, frankly, dangerous assumption that all opinions and points of view are equally valid and deserve attention.

    No, no, all opinions and points of view are not equally valid.

    All people have the right to express their opinions and points of view.

    That is true, that is a freedom of expression, right? Many governments around the world guarantee that right? Whether or not you actually can or not, as demonstrated, at least saw the paperwork.

    But we have conflated that with saying that all opinions are equally valid.

    And that’s just not true expertise exists for a reason, right? Someone who is expert in something, and somebody who just sits behind a desk making YouTube videos, but doesn’t have any actual expertise, their opinions are not the same, their opinions are not equally valid.

    And the way we get to drowning in stupid conspiracy theories is the belief that those two things are equal.

    It’s false equivalency.

    I am not in any way shape or form a qualified medical practitioner, I put together a COVID newsletter.

    I started doing it in January of 2020.

    Now two and a half years into this adventure that I didn’t ask for.

    And people have given very kind feedback about it saying it’s the expertise we trust.

    Oh, I’m not an expert.

    I can read and I can curate, and I can recognize expertise and others, but I myself am not an expert.

    I am not a qualified medical practitioner.

    And if you were to say, take someone who is an immunologist like Dr.

    Akiko Iwasaki at Yale and me, the marketing guy, our opinions are not the same.

    They’re not worth the same, they should not carry the same weight.

    Dr.

    Iwasaki his opinions should vastly outweigh mine.

    Right.

    She has spent 30 years studying how viruses work.

    And yes, can experts be wrong, of course, that’s part of expertises is learning and growing.

    But in general, we have abdicated our responsibility for critical thinking as a society and said, these two opinions about are equally valid.

    Oh, this is this is Chris the marketer? Yes, he he copies and pastes mostly from what actual experts say.

    So we’ll give Chris the marker some credit for at least recognizing who the actual experts are.

    But the actual expert like Dr.

    Iwasaki her opinion is just inherently more valid, inherently more valid.

    When you see a news story on the news about, you know, top secret documents.

    I have never, ever served in any official capacity in the United States government and law enforcement things like that.

    Is my opinion about whether a document should be top secret or not as valid as someone say, at a law enforcement agency whose literal job is the enforcement of that of those regulations? No, my opinion is not as valid.

    I am still free to express it.

    But if there’s a fairly good chance of what I’m going to express as wrong, or at least lack nuance.

    We see this even in business and in marketing.

    Right? We see this where As someone who is loud, someone who has a big following someone who has an engaging presence can become seen as expert in something they are not actually expert in.

    Right?

    Christopher Penn 5:17

    Whether it’s marketing automation, Google ads, Google Analytics, NF T’s, you name it? Because we’ve lost the ability to discern actual expertise, and think critically, the person who is loud tends to be seen as the expert.

    So what’s the remedy? How do we learn this? How do we teach ourselves? How do we teach our kids this our business partners? The first thing we have to dig into is understanding what expertise really is.

    How much time and effort and focus has a person spent to understand a topic not broadly but deeply, to study something for years and years and years.

    Until they know the ins and outs.

    One of the hallmarks of true expertise is not knowing not just knowing the right answers, knowing the right answers is important.

    Knowing having good information is important.

    But knowing what’s going to go wrong, right? When if someone who is truly experts say in virology and immunology, they would be able to say like, Okay, this mutation here in this virus, not as big a deal, because it’s not on an open reading frame.

    Right, which is a portion of the viruses RNA.

    An open reading frame is a part that has activation potential can do stuff, and there’s a whole big chunks of it that don’t.

    And so that person who is a viral expert could look at a mutation in a viruses RNA and say, Okay, it’s not an open reading frame.

    So the likelihood of this being a problematic variant is lower than if it did occur on this open reading frame or on this part of the spike protein.

    We, as lay people should still be able, even if we don’t know the details, we should still be able to listen to that and go.

    You not only do you know what’s right, you know what’s likely to go wrong.

    Right? So if I listened to someone talking about virology, and they just saying mutations, mutations and all these things, and they’re not talking about whether it’s on an open reading frame or not, I would say this person doesn’t seem to have as much expertise as Dr.

    Iwasaki who can tell you all about how different things occur.

    Or my friend Sarah, who’s a PhD in biology can talk about how RNA replicates and stuff, I don’t have a PhD in that.

    Right, I just I just have smarter friends than me.

    The second thing, besides learning how to understand and respect expertise, is disposing of that point of view that all opinions are equally valid.

    Without disposing of the right for someone to express their opinion, you have or should have the right to express opinion.

    But you should also have the right to be contradicted and to be told that you’re operating with incorrect information.

    And it is that that we have to solve for to reinforce that expertise exists for a reason that reading the headlines, or listening to our favorite commentator on YouTube is not the same as having domain expertise.

    And encouraging people encouraging everyone to have domain expertise to be really good at something.

    Maybe you’re really good at plumbing, right? Maybe you’re really, really good at electrical work, maybe you’re really good at painting.

    But the more people have a true area of domain expertise, the easier it is to relate to those people and to say to them, and give examples to them, like someone who is a true expert farmer.

    They can look at a harvest of wheat very early on and say there’s a lot of potential issues with this crop.

    Right.

    They know, weeks before a layperson whether crops going to be any good or not.

    And so when you’re talking to that person about say virology

    Christopher Penn 10:02

    to break that mindset that all opinions are valid, you can say, well, could you see a case where someone like me who’s a layperson wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a good head of wheat and a bad head of weak wheat? You know, 10 weeks into the season, they probably say, oh, yeah, for sure.

    I mean, the color here or the the moisture content here is going to be a big differentiator.

    And I wouldn’t know that as a layperson, I’m still don’t know that I’m making that up.

    But then you could say to him, and so could you see how Dr.

    Iwasaki his opinion about the SAR cov two virus is much more valid than this other person on YouTube who doesn’t have a PhD who is not an expert in viruses, just like I’m not an expert in wheat.

    So if we encourage people to have domains of expertise, and we respect their domains of expertise, it should be easier to get them to respect others, domains of expertise.

    Anyway, that’s why I think we’re swimming in idiotic conspiracies because we’ve lost respect for each other’s domains of expertise.

    And we’ve got this bizarre, unfortunate belief that all opinions are equally valid.

    We can unwind that as long as we try.

    Thanks for tuning in.

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