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  • You Ask, I Answer: Leveraging Engineering Talent for Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Leveraging Engineering Talent for Marketing?

    Heather asks, “If you had the ability to add an engineer to your team, with a penchant for data analysis and interest in SEO but no marketing/comms background or experience, what are some ways you would use them?”

    That’s an interesting question because it depends on the kind of engineer the person is. Someone with, say, a chemical engineering background is going to be adept at setting up and running experiments, and a mindset based on skills like stoichiometry will let them develop complex, balanced formulas for marketing outcomes. Part of your challenge is determining what they’re conceptually good at, and mapping that to your needs. What software skills do they have?

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    In today’s episode, Heather asks, If you had the ability to add an engineer to your team with a penchant for data analysis and interest in SEO, but no marketing comms background or experience? What are some of the ways you would use them? That’s an interesting question.

    Because it depends, it depends on the kind of engineer a person is, you know, somebody who has this software engineering background is going to be very different than somebody who has bio status statistics or biotechnical, engineering, background, engineering in general.

    The common traits are, obviously, people are very quantitative, they, they have good knowledge of the scientific method, they have typically good adherence to processes and a willingness to embrace process, and have things be repeatable, have things be reliable.

    You know, for example, my brother is an aerospace engineer, and many of the technical skills.

    The quantitative skills are shared across different engineering disciplines, you know, basic statistics, the ability to do complex equations, and the ability to make those equations work towards a specific outcome and to be repeatable and to be rigorous.

    So somebody say with, like a chemical engineering background, they’re going to be more adept at things like fluid dynamics along with a mechanical engineer.

    There’s the skills and strict geometry, for example, the ability to balance equations and things, those are not soft skills, but their core engineering capabilities that you can actually pick up and do domain transfer, to the discipline of marketing.

    So let’s take stoichiometry the ability to do balance formulas, somebody who’s good at that is going to be somebody who is good at taking complex marketing formulas.

    If you think about some of the more complex formulas we deal with in marketing, that require advanced calculus and linear algebra skills, multiple regressions, gradient boosting techniques, like really complex calculus equations for understanding how knowledge spreads across a graph.

    Those are all things that are not necessarily native to engineering.

    But an engineer could pick up and learn very, very quickly, very easily, it would not be a very difficult lift for them to go from, say, doing mass energy transfer to understanding network dynamics.

    And the challenge that you face here is determining what that particular engineering person’s background is, and what they’re conceptually good at.

    And then mapping that to your needs.

    So if you have needs in SEO, or needs in basic marketing analytics stuff, how do you map that person skills to that somebody who’s really good, for example, biostatistics is going to have an easy time, an easy time with Google Analytics, right? In terms of complexity of environments, Google Analytics is way less complex than a lab bench.

    And so you can take those that person’s skills, and then try to figure out how do you solve your challenges with their skills, the the tougher part actually is on your side, which is to be clear about what your needs are like, Hey, this is when you’re dealing with engineers, you have to be clear, you have to be very, very clear, this is what I want, this is the outcome I’m looking for.

    Not Hey, I’d like to make SEO better.

    That’s way too open ended.

    That is not something that is scientifically rigorous, and is not something that an engineer is going to be able to go, Oh, I don’t want to do that.

    They’re gonna look at you and go, and what would you like me to do? So your challenge would be something like, I need a way to do regression testing with Google Analytics data.

    There will be some things that they will not have aptitudes for a lot of data engineering is not something that in my experience, you know, other scientific engineers have had a lot of success with accepting, of course, software engineering.

    That is, for example, if you sat down chemical engineer in front of Google Analytics data, they could probably make something of it if you told them to write software to go connect to the Google Analytics API and retrieve the data.

    And it’s not going to go so well.

    There are exceptions to every rule, but in my experience in working with various people, that’s not something that they wouldn’t be able to do easily.

    So you’ll still have some challenges on the data engineering side that really only data engineers and software engineers are best suited for.

    Obviously, anybody can learn anything.

    But out of the box that’s persons not going to have strong aptitudes, they’re the big question I would also have is what software skills do does this engineering person have? Someone in biostatistics, for example, is going to have a very strong background in either SPSS or R.

    And those two languages are obviously very, very well suited for working with marketing data.

    I use r all the time, literally every single day, to do even relatively basic stuff, like getting data out of Google Analytics, it’s just a fantastic piece of software for that.

    So software engineers, probably gonna have some experience in Python.

    And that’s definitely going to be something that will be coming exceptional, handy when pulling data out of various applications.

    Again, with the caveat that most folks in scientific engineering don’t have a lot of background and extracting data out of API’s.

    So just know that that’s a thing.

    You do want to look for somebody, ideally, who has coding skills, because there are certainly a lot of purpose built applications and every scientific discipline that you know, pre packaged apps, that those will not translate well into marketing, those will not transfer, probably at all into marketing, but somebody who can write code is going to do well.

    The other thing that is important is, you’re going to need to have good management of the person and understand that managing engineers, typically is different than managing other kinds of employees, they are, again, very outcome driven, you have to be extremely clear, they some have good project management skills, some do not.

    That varies pretty wildly.

    And giving them feedback on things, one of the challenges you’re going to run into is you may not necessarily know how they’re doing something, and you will have to work with them to have them explain how they do things.

    So that you can offer feedback about how they might do it better.

    One of the challenges I’ve had in my career is I’ve worked for people who don’t understand what I do, and so therefore cannot offer guidance about how to improve my processes or how to improve my code.

    Certainly, they can offer feedback on how I can improve the outcomes I deliver.

    But it is that left to me as a self directed learner to figure out how can I make this better on my own.

    And if you have a person who needs a mentor who needs external assistance to be motivated to learn, you’re gonna have to learn that early and find somebody who can provide that guidance.

    Because it’s really challenging for the person if they get frustrated, and there’s nobody that can turn to for help.

    So there’s a few of the thoughts, I would have them again, focusing on if they’re, if they’re a good engineer, they should have a good technical background in data analysis.

    That’s true of almost every kind of engineering.

    And I would look at the data challenges you have and say, Okay, how can we map this person’s skills to this person to our challenges? And again, that requires really getting to know that person and what the skills are that they have.

    Interviewing, seeing their work, trying to understand the kinds of problems they’ve solved, I think is really important to be able to to ask them to show me some of the tougher problems you’ve solved some of the more difficult experiments you’ve run and how you navigated those challenges that kind of informational question before or after hiring the person will be beneficial to you to understand them better.

    Got a follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Creating Content for Search Engines?

    You Ask, I Answer: Creating Content for Search Engines?

    Stephanie asks, “Should I be creating content for search engines or people?”

    With the advent of modern, AI-driven SEO, this is largely the same thing. Transformer-based natural language processing makes writing for people and writing for machines much closer, thanks to the way machines understand and predict. Models like BERT now understand sentences and paragraphs, which is a major change from keywords. They also specialize in tasks like question answering and prediction. Create content for these model applications.

    You Ask, I Answer: Creating Content for Search Engines?

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    In today’s episode, Stephanie asks, should I be creating content for search engines or for people? Kind of the same thing.

    In the old days of SEO, we would focus very heavily on things like individual words or keyword phrases that we needed to create content around, that we needed to create, you know, text for, that took advantage of the way that search engines used to work in terms of how they identified what a page was about how they identified what what were the most important words on a page with the advent of the more sophisticated language models, in search engines that those tactics have largely gone by the wayside, not because we stopped using those words or phrases, but because of the way the engines themselves can understand language.

    A few years ago, 2015, we started to see the advent of these new models called transformers, not anything related to the the toy line that can process text in very different ways.

    And probably one of the more important and impactful frameworks that came out of this was one called bidirectional encoding representations for transformers, which we now know as Google’s Bert model.

    And what these do differently, then, the weight search engines used to process text in the old days is they understand at the sentence and paragraph level, almost at the document level, as opposed to the word the phrase level.

    A lot of the techniques that SEO folks who haven’t gotten up to speed, still focus on are very much still at the word level.

    And the word level is not as important anymore.

    It is about sentences, paragraphs and context.

    With these new models, they’re able to read a sentence and predict what the next sentence logically should be.

    They’re able to predict what a sequence of sentences are, and then generate a an understanding of what the next paragraph logically could be about.

    Obviously, this technology has a great deal of power when it comes to things like question answering.

    So if you were to feed a question to one of these models, they can come up with what is likely to be a solid predicted answer.

    Now, what does this mean? This means that these models that are trained on an awful lot of text and tuned, using things like Google Search Quality Rating guidelines, can look at a page and say, how closely does this page, this page has content match? What is predicted, like what should logically be here, if this is a page that starts off with a sentence about coffee shops, and coffee, it should be looking for a discussion of you know, these are the hours that we’re open, these are the drinks that we serve, etc.

    And the further your content deviates from what the model understands, the less likely it is that the model is going to think that your page is relevant.

    Right? So when we talked about creating content for search engines, people that really is the same thing, because you would not take a page that you were putting on a website and say, a coffee shop and start putting like cooked ham recipes on there.

    Right? You would not take a paragraph that was about when your coffee shop was open and insert, you know, random facts about you on there, you shouldn’t, because as a human, you would read that go that makes absolutely no sense.

    What, who put this page together, this is terrible.

    And so understanding how the natural language processing models work, helps us understand how we should be writing content, we should be creating content for people.

    What are the logical things that you as a person would want to know? What are the logical next things that would occur any piece of text? Think about it if you were writing a page about your coffee shop, you’ve got a page of frequently asked questions.

    What are the logical questions that should be on there? What time he opened? How much do things cost? How do I dry? How do I get there? You know, how do you treat things for allergens, and by building a page that would satisfy a human who wanted to know all the things that logically you’d want to know about a coffee shop, you’re also satisfying These modern search engines that have the ability to predict text.

    And guess essentially, how, how aligned is your page with the things that it is predicting should be on there.

    Now, is it perfect? No.

    And are there constant updates? Yes.

    But the way these algorithms work, there’s not as much drift as long as they have that.

    That solid training data set, which again, comes from two things.

    It comes from Google Search Quality Rating guidelines where quality raters go out and rate existing pages as to how how well they display things like expertise, authority, and trustworthiness, how, what kind of quality is paid as a high quality page with a lots of original unique content? Is it does it demonstrate expertise, does it demonstrate topical relevance, those are all things that are in the quality weighting guidelines, which I strongly encourage you to read.

    Google publishes them.

    The other thing that Google has is a group called Pygmalion, which has, I believe, two or three dozen linguistic experts on PhDs in linguistics, who are constantly helping understand the mechanics of language, and how the search queries that are being processed are being essentially are, how correctly they’re processing language.

    And ways to deconstruct language, because one of the challenges of content on the web is goes a whole bunch, but one is technically a hot mess.

    But something that is authoritative.

    Authority varies wildly between different industries and disciplines.

    You know, what should be authoritative text, say in surgery is going to be very different than authoritative text in plumbing, right? You’re not going to expect a plumber to write at a graduate school level on their website, but they may have great content that makes them the popular choice for answers about two plumbing questions.

    So a lot of the these models on the back end have to contend with these different topics.

    So what do you do with this? Well, number one, you create content for people.

    And the best way to create content for people that’s relevant is to actually ask people, what questions do you have? Right? Go into your customer service inbox, and just fish out every single question.

    And for any question that occurs more than like, two or three times, guess what, you should have content on the website about that? Because it’s clearly a question people have, that they want to know more about.

    Go into your, your meeting notes with all your customers and all your clients, and pull out the questions that they keep asking that people keep asking over and over again, again, that’s content that should be on your website.

    And when you create stuff that is aligned with people, and reflects reality, you’re going to do better in search engines, because that’s what Google is, is bringing in from all these other websites that are out there.

    And that these models will come to essentially a consensus like this is authoritative, based on the training guidelines, based on the expert models, and based on the user behavior signals that Google can see, when people search on search engines, you know, if this site reads like it should be authoritative, but everybody who clicks with clicks back to Google in two seconds, like, yeah, something’s wrong there.

    As opposed to, you know, people click through to a website, and they stay there for 30 minutes.

    Okay, they, they must have found what they were looking for.

    And those data points go in as well.

    So that’s how to create content in the modern era focus on what people want, what they need, what questions they have, anticipate the questions they’re going to have in advance and put that content up there.

    Do a show like this? I mean, that this this whole show that I’ve been doing for three years now is all about answering questions that real people have, because it’s how search engines function.

    If you got follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Staying Aware of Marketing Trends?

    You Ask, I Answer: Staying Aware of Marketing Trends?

    Sandeep asks, “How do you stay aware of new marketing trends?”

    The answer here is straightforward: your communities. The communities you belong to will lead you to what’s new, especially in private communities where members aren’t being blitzed by spam and ads all the time, like Discord and Slack. Join a handful, show up, and listen.

    You Ask, I Answer: Staying Aware of Marketing Trends?

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    In today’s episode, Sandeep asks, How do you stay aware of new marketing trends? Okay, well, the answer here is relatively straightforward.

    Your communities, your communities that you belong to, are the ones that will be providing you intelligence on what’s new on, on what’s happening.

    And based on the questions that people ask if you belong to Facebook groups would not be my first choice.

    But LinkedIn groups, a slack servers, discord servers, wherever it is that you spend time online with your peers.

    Those are the communities where you’ll see people asking questions.

    Hey, has anyone heard of this Tiktok thing? Hey, has anyone joined parlour? Has anyone done this? Has anyone done that? And after you see it a couple times in the feed, you go, Okay, this is a thing that we need to pay attention to? That would be the very straightforward answer.

    Now, here’s the catch.

    It requires time, it requires you to invest the time in joining those communities, and stopping by and listening, doing your own assessments of them.

    And then ultimately, making decisions and doing some research based on what you find.

    If you’re not a member, of any communities, or significant ones, where you’re getting enough intelligence, that’s probably the first place to start.

    So go to, you know, go to Facebook, go to LinkedIn, hunt around in the bigger public groups that you’re a member of, you know, social media marketing, world group, secret team, any of these the larger communities.

    Those would be the first places to start and ask people, hey, what slack servers or discord servers do you belong to.

    And again, you can join, if people are willing to let you know that they exist, they probably want you to join them.

    For example, the analytics for marketers community on Slack, it’s the one that my company runs Trust Insights, go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers.

    There’s about 1400 people in there.

    And the most recent questions have been very heavily about things like Google Analytics for so after enough of those you go, okay, there’s clearly I think here, if you’re unfamiliar, this is what a slack group looks like, this is the spin sucks community from Spin sucks.com.

    And this is about 1000.

    I think maybe more than that, people who are talking about media relations, public relations, community management, influencers, etc.

    The most recent question on, you know, ebooks, ebook formats.

    So what you will find is, these communities are great sources of intelligence.

    The more that you participate in them, the more that you become a, a full fledged member in the sense of being active in the community, the more people will ask you specific things that you might have answers to as well.

    And that is of great benefit, because then you’re going to get the tough questions about things that you have expertise about.

    And that may indicate new use cases, new challenges, etc.

    For example, I’m this morning and one of my community, someone was asking where the referral exclusions are in Google Analytics for they’re missing, they’re not there.

    You have to have a packet yourself.

    But that’s not something that I would have thought to talk about.

    Unless someone from one of my communities asked the question.

    With a lot of these online communities, too, you can ask people like, hey, what things are you working on? What things are you trying out what’s crossed your desk recently? That’s new.

    And again, get some useful information, folks, as long as you have a reputation in that community for being a a upstanding member, if you will.

    Just lurking I’ve been asking a question out of the blue every now and again, it’s probably not as effective as you contributing answers and help to the communities feeding the communities with your insights.

    Now, you can do this with more public sources, like Twitter, for example.

    But you tend to get a lot more junk that way.

    You tend to get a lot more junk and a lot more self promotional stuff.

    A lot of these communities, particularly on slack and discord are strictly non promotional.

    To the point where members will be expelled, if they’re, you know, out there Hawking their stuff.

    And that’s what you want.

    You want places where the actual discussion has happens.

    The really critical thing though, is that you need a community for your customers.

    Where do your customers spend time online? You know, depending on who your customers are, it could be an old fashioned, you know, bulletin board system.

    It could be a web forum, it could be an email list.

    It could be a slack group, it could be a Discord server, it could be any of any of these places where people hang out.

    But you need to figure out where your customers are hanging out.

    And then spending time in those places to stay in tune with your customers, not just marketing trends, but what are your customers up to? What questions do they have? And this, you can only get that through asking them.

    So if you’ve got an email list, send out an email saying, hey, what online communities are you members of? And where do we find them? We want to show up and listen.

    Is there a Discord server so if you are a gaming company, you better have not only your own Discord server, but you better know, you know, the top five or six in your industry and be listening constantly to see what people are talking about there.

    If you’re in b2b, yeah, you better have your own slack group.

    But then you better be joining you know, other networking, slack groups that can provide you useful intelligence about what your customers care about.

    Because with a lot of these communities, especially ones that are private, that are not in the Facebook ecosystem, you get more honest conversation.

    So you can ask people, hey, what do you think of TrustInsights.ai Oh, god, these people is so difficult to work with.

    And that can give you some really good unfiltered feedback about your company and help you understand where you stand in your ecosystem, where you stand, stand in the world of trends around your company’s products and services.

    So that’s how you stay aware of marketing trends, you spend time with people who you care about, and you listen to them.

    And then, as appropriate, you adjust your marketing strategy based on the things that they’re talking about.

    And if you’re not doing that, you’re kind of flying blind.

    You’re kind of not tuned in to the pulse of your customers, and the things they care about.

    One of the things you’ve got to find out, by the way, no, particularly with marketing technology, is that your customers lag behind you a fair amount of time unless you yourself are lagging pretty far fine.

    But things like good old fashioned email newsletter may still be the best way to reach your customers.

    Despite all these new technologies and platforms, your customers might be there, but you may not be engaged there.

    Whereas a simple email newsletter may generate more business for your company than all these social networks put together.

    So keep that in mind that and that’s why having that community of your customers is so important so that you can listen to them and go, Oh, we’re gonna launch this whole new thing, but turns out nobody cares about that thing.

    Right? That’s, that’s the value of these communities.

    Good question.

    You have follow up questions about communities? Leave in the comments below.

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter and join the slack group.

    Go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers join the slack group you can ask questions.

    In fact, somebody just asked question seconds ago and saw my notification pop up about Google Analytics for so join the slack group join the communities that can benefit you the most to keep an eye on those marketing trends.

    Thanks for watching.

    I’ll talk to you soon take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 Long-Term Benefits?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 Long-Term Benefits?

    Tanner asks, “Can you explain why Google Analytics 4 is supposedly going to be better in the long run?”

    Three major benefits that will take time to see the value:

    • The event model gives us much more granularity with our data.
    • BigQuery for all gives us the ability to create much more advanced attribution models and our own ‘secret sauce’ for unlocking the value of our data.
    • Improved cross-device tracking, especially if you have a mobile app.

    Watch the video for an explanation of how this benefits you.

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    In today’s episode, Tanner asks, Can you explain why Google Analytics four is supposedly going to be better in the long run? That’s a really good question.

    Because obviously, with a lot of the transition issues and the fact that it’s still a little rough around the edges, it may not be able to easy to see what those benefits are.

    And certainly, if you are not already on Google Analytics, for, there is no immediate need to make the switch, there is, in my opinion, the immediate need to get it set up and get it collecting data.

    But once you’ve done the basic setup, you can just set it and forget until you’re ready.

    And until the platform has matured.

    So there’s three big things that Google Analytics four offers that are different and better than what you get in Google Analytics, three, or Universal Analytics.

    The first, an easy one is the improved cross device tracking, especially if you have a mobile app.

    So if your company has a mobile app, having Google Analytics for allows you to unify your mobile app users with your web users, and that gives you a much bigger, better, cleaner picture of who your audience is.

    So that one’s kind of a no brainer.

    If you have a mobile app.

    If you don’t have a mobile app, you still do get better cross device tracking, and better raw data on the back end, because Google Analytics for as we’ve talked about, fundamentally, under the hood, is actually Firebase Analytics.

    It’s actually the Firebase database underneath there with the Google Analytics interface on top of it, the the GA four interface on top, so it’s built for mobile first, which is a phrase you’ve heard a lot from Google in the last 10 years, right? Mobile First, mobile first web mobile first indexing, mobile friendly mobile usability.

    Clearly, it’s not a surprise, right? These things are everywhere.

    It is a mobile first world.

    And so it makes sense for our animate analytics to reflect this particular strategy.

    That brings us to point number two, the event model that Google Analytics for uses is the Firebase model, where every interaction somebody has swipe, tap do this do that is tracked as its own separate event.

    That’s one of the reasons why out of the box, it says, you know, you want to turn on enhanced measurement, and it tracks all these extra things.

    Those are standard Firebase events.

    And so the benefit of this is that it makes our data more granular.

    If you look in the Google Analytics BigQuery, that it will set up for you automatically, it is much easier to see every individual interaction that a user has now, this is a lot more of a tenuous benefit right now to the average marketer, for the average database person, it’s a huge benefit.

    Because in the previous version of Google Analytics, you had four scopes, right, you had the hit, you had the session, you had the user, and you had the product.

    And not all the data was compatible with each one.

    Right? It was very, very challenging.

    In some cases, to get unified data out.

    If you wanted to know about users who had converted within a session, it was a real pain in the butt to get that what the Firebase database looks like, on the back end is the technical term is denormalized.

    Right? Instead of a unique user, a user will have a unique event and a whole bunch of, in some ways, duplication of the user data, it makes for a very big flat spreadsheet, essentially, instead of having, you know, four, actually, that’s a really good way of explaining it.

    Imagine those four scopes in Google Analytics, three are different for different tabs in a spreadsheet, it’s kind of a pain in the butt to get data from one tab to the next.

    Google Analytics for denormalize is that which is a fancy way of saying it just puts it all in one big sheet.

    So you don’t have to reference cells and other tabs and things like that, you can do it all in one table.

    This obviously has a major benefit for Google itself.

    Because a denormalized table is easier to process.

    It’s faster to process.

    But it has benefits for us as marketers if we have the skills to work with that kind of data.

    Because now, all the fields, all the dimensions and metrics that we’re used to that used to have these limitations don’t have those limitations anymore, we can query the database through either Google Analytics for or the back end database.

    And pull out that the data that we want and aggregated at the the level that we want to view things at so you can roll everything up to a user or you can break it down to a session or even into a session data.

    That in turn gives us the ability to have much better path analysis.

    There was a substantial limitation in Google Analytics three, four path tracking conversions it is it is still not great.

    But it’s a pain in the ass to get to get that data out.

    Because in the dimensions and metrics in in ga three, you had to reference a whole bunch of you know, the three steps before conversion, I’m trying to aggregate this model together, which you can do.

    But now in ga for this event model, it gives us the ability to track every single action, somebody took on the way to a path to purchase.

    So if you’re using advanced attribution models, suddenly, as long as you can retrofit your code, your model is so much better.

    Because you don’t you’re not limited to a look back window of the last three or four interactions that somebody had, you now can see if they’ve been on your website for an hour and a half clicking around, you can see all 5060 7080 hundred different events that happen before that conversion and build a much more robust conversion model.

    So that event model really gives us the granularity we need to do very substantial analysis.

    Is it easy? No, no, you got to be really good at working with that data.

    But can you work with it and turn it into valuable insights? Yes.

    The third major thing in the long run is that BigQuery integration.

    Up until now, only Google Analytics premium users were able to get the back end raw data from Google Analytics.

    Now, everybody has it.

    And again, this is not something that a non technical market is going to find a whole lot of benefit with.

    because it requires a lot of expertise.

    But for the technical marketer, this is a huge benefit.

    This is a massive benefit.

    Because you can now go in and get the raw data, you don’t have to do things Google’s way, if you have a better way of doing it, right.

    If you are a skilled programmer, and our Python or Java or any of the languages can talk to a BigQuery database, you can write your own code to access the data to process the data, and maybe even visualize the data in some other way.

    For a lot of the third party visualization tools like alteryx, and Tableau and stuff, they have BigQuery connectors that are native.

    and pulling data out of a BigQuery database is way easier than pulling it out of the Google Analytics API.

    It’s faster, it’s more accurate, you run into fewer connection issues.

    So for the data driven marketer, that BigQuery integration is a massive benefit.

    And it will be better in the long run.

    What this means for most marketers, at least those who have the budget to either build the technical capability themselves or hire it out, is that you’ll have much more custom attribution models, you’ll have much more custom audience models.

    And you’ll have your special sauce, your unique way of of analyzing your data that other companies don’t have, right? That technical proficiency will be part of your secret sauce that makes your company more successful.

    If you have a better model, a better template a better algorithm for analyzing that data, you can use that to create competitive advantage.

    Whereas other companies that are stuck with just the stock tools in the interface, they’ll do okay, right.

    But they won’t be able to reap the full power and benefits of that data.

    Google is essentially giving you all the raw ingredients and saying hey, some people are only going to be able to make pizza, right? And that’s okay, because pizza will feed you.

    But if you can take this flour, and yeast and all this stuff, you can make breads, muffins, and pies and all these things that other people might not be able to.

    So that’s where you’re going to see in the years to come.

    A big competitive difference is those companies that can leverage the data.

    And those companies that can’t.

    So those are the three major benefits, they’re going to take time to see the value, there’s one more benefit and that is for agencies specifically, again, if you develop a proficiency if you develop a capability who developed the algorithms and the models and the software to leverage the data that will be part of your secret sauce that you can bring to your clients.

    And that can be a major major benefit.

    So if you got follow up questions, it’s a good topic follow up questions, leave them in the comments below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Simple System for Brand Monitoring?

    You Ask, I Answer: Simple System for Brand Monitoring?

    Fauzia asks, “I’m looking for an alternative to Google Alerts. What do you use?”

    I use a combination of Talkwalker Alerts and Feedly; no alerting service will ever give you 100% coverage, but with alerts set up for a variety of topics and organized in Feedly, you can get reasonable coverage. You get what you pay for.

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    In today’s episode fauzia asks, pronounced, I’m looking for an alternative to Google Alerts, what do you use? So, I use a combination of Talkwalker alerts, which is a free service offered by Talkwalker, full disclosure, their business partner of my company, and Feedly.

    And the reason for this is that the the alerting techniques and the alerting notifications, you get for a lot of different alerting services, send an email to your inbox, I don’t need any more email.

    And I certainly don’t need it multiple times throughout the day.

    And it’s not an easy way to keep things organized.

    That’s been the biggest challenge with things like Google Alerts, you just get email alerts of stuff, and you’re like, I don’t want any of this, right.

    So.

    So use these tools in combination.

    Let’s go ahead and flip this around here.

    So this is Talkwalker alerts.

    One of the most useful things about it is that it allows you to to get things by RSS feed.

    So let’s go ahead and I’m going to have an alert here for me, let’s create a new alert.

    Let’s do for Trust Insights, or using basic Boolean syntax here.

    So the same things, you’d use the Google Alert.

    Let’s go ahead and choose news, Twitter, blogs, discussions, in the English language, actually, let’s leave it all languages.

    As it happens, all results and create alert.

    Now what I’ve done is I’ve turned email off, just down here.

    And let’s create one more here.

    My business partner.

    Same thing here.

    Okay, now, that’s a good first step, right, we’ve got feed for me, feed for my business partner feed for a company actually, let’s put it in for more marketing over coffee, while I’m thinking about it.

    Our Twitter handle all languages, as it happens, all results.

    Great.

    Each of these has this little icon here, which is an RSS feed.

    If you’re not familiar with RSS feeds, they are a way to subscribe to blogs, right? Let’s go over here to Feedly create a new feed and call it monitoring.

    Let’s add some content to monitoring.

    And I’m gonna copy each one of these links.

    Let’s go ahead and merge these two windows here I go.

    We’re gonna follow that, you know, monitoring folder.

    So let’s put that in the regular monitoring folder.

    There we go.

    Now we do that again.

    Now where this becomes really helpful is if you need to have this broken up by client instead of having just one folder.

    for monitoring, you could have a folder for each individual client with multiple alerts for each client.

    And one more.

    Great.

    Now we’ve got our monitoring folder set up here.

    And I obviously have to wait for it to populate because there’s nothing in that feed yet nothing has happened.

    But what will happen is over time, we will have all of our alerts show up like this.

    And then instead of having to sift through piles and piles of email, which is no fun, want to be you want to be able to come into one place, go in, check it, see what’s happening, and get in and out and you’re done.

    Right or as you know, with a lot of these services like Feedly you can track things, bookmark them, you can send them by email other people You’ve got a team, you can delegate with Feedly, because it authenticates with the Google account, if you have a team gmail account, you can set your monitoring up and have multiple people in there checking things, assigning stuff.

    So it’s a very powerful, simple, free solution for putting together some basic monitoring.

    Here’s the thing.

    With all these services, you get what you pay for.

    If you’re paying nothing for it, you can’t be mad if you don’t get great results, you if you want better results, you do have to pull out the credit card and start buying stuff, we use Talkwalker Pro service, you know, again, disclosure, they’re a partner company, but you get many more many better results out of it that way, then you do the free service, the free service is good.

    It is good.

    But it is not as thorough and as comprehensive as getting paid service, which covers like 40 different sources and things like that.

    So if you just don’t have the money, this is a simple system for monitoring stuff.

    If you do have the money invest in a heavier duty monitoring service.

    The bigger thing is just having a system for checking those alerts however frequently or infrequently, and being able to clear them out or to do something with them.

    Again, one of the things that’s handy here is if you wanted to, you could even give access to this feed to a client, right? So you could set up a team with your client, let them go in here and and see what’s happening as well if that was something that they were asking you for.

    So that’s the easy version.

    Again, I would stay away for anything that sends you more email because the last thing any of us want is more email.

    It doesn’t really help.

    And the bigger thing is making sure that we’re doing something with the data as we have it.

    So it’s not enough to monitor, you got to do something with it, whether it’s providing reporting, things like that, whether it is taking action on stuff.

    That’s what you want to be able to, to do to provide additional value.

    Your follow up questions on this? Let me know, leave a comment in the box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Driving Engagement with Content?

    You Ask, I Answer: Driving Engagement with Content?

    Erika asks, “What drives a reader to engage with a piece of content?”

    Engagement is all about one word: emotion. Something in the content has to trigger our emotions. Consider the content that engages you – and how algorithms learn from that engagement. If you want engagement, you have to decide what emotion you want to provoke, and then build content around that emotion.

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    In today’s episode, Eric asks, What drives a reader to engage with a piece of content? Well, I guess, a bunch of things to unpack here first, what do you define as engagement? Is it somebody sharing it? Is somebody commenting on it? Is it somebody returning to it over and over again, First, you need to figure out what that looks like when it comes to the content where it lives natively, and where it goes.

    So for example, social networks is going someone’s email.

    There are a number of straightforward easy use tools, you can put on your website that will allow you to not only enable sharing, you know, those little sharing widgets and buttons, but then also put some tracking on it as well, to track the different types of engagements you can get out of people.

    So keep that in mind.

    Engagement, though, getting somebody to do something is all about one word.

    And that word is emotion.

    Something in your content has to trigger an emotion provoking emotional reaction in somebody to get them to do anything, convert, engage, share, the content has to get somebody to feel something strongly enough, that they’re willing to do something about it.

    So give some thought already, to what content engages you, right? When you’re on LinkedIn, or Twitter or YouTube or Facebook? What What do you do on those networks, and then pay some attention to what gets you engaged.

    There are any number of algorithms out there on these different networks, Facebook, most prominently who are optimizing for engagement, and they are optimizing for engagement based on emotion, consider the topics that are shown to you in your newsfeed.

    Right, and how they make you feel.

    So I, semi jokingly say when I’m putting together the news for my daily newsletter, about the pandemic, that I’m going to take my daily bath of, you know, rage and sorrow, because that’s very often the content that presents itself content that makes people angry and afraid.

    Now, you may not want those emotions to be associated with your brand.

    Certainly, we have seen plenty of examples where those types of engagements, leave a emotional aftertaste to your brand, right.

    So if your brand is really good at making people angry, that’s not necessarily a good thing, you’ll get that engagement.

    But you may not get the business that’s supposed to follow from it.

    So that’s another key point.

    But it is fairly obvious when you look at the state of discourse, when you look at the state of what people share and how they share it and how they react to it.

    That the emotions that certainly get the engagement you’re looking for most easily are those that are negative.

    So a big part then, is you have to decide what emotions your brand stands for and wants to provoke in somebody.

    And then how do you build content around that emotion, what content creates that emotion in you? This is not something you can automate easily, you can certainly do the analytics on that emotion and the complexities of it.

    But at the end of the day, you’re gonna have to do a lot of qualitative work a lot of qualitative research, asking people to send you examples.

    Let’s say, your chosen emotion is security, right? This is content that makes you feel secure.

    So not only does it have an element of happiness to it, but it has a complete absence of fear.

    Or it has fear that is presented initially and then remediated.

    You need to ask people can you send me content that does that for you and send it to a representative group of people that represents the kinds of customers you want? And commission essentially a research study and ask people send me content that makes you feel secure, it makes you feel more secure, it makes you feel better about your safety or your security or whatever the emotion is you’re going after and then you have to read all of it, consume it, look for similarities that help you identify, okay, these are the kinds of things structures certain types of Language, certain types of sentences, imagery, certain types of adjectives and adverbs, certain topics and the way they’re presented and build yourself a Codex of this is the type of content that is associated with a feeling of security, so that you can mimic some of that and incorporate some of that into the content you’re building.

    Now, that is a fairly lengthy process, but it’s an important one that if you want to provoke that emotion in people, that’s what you need to do just the same as if you were trying to provoke I don’t know, what wrath or lust or sloth or any of the cardinal sins or any of the the cardinal virtues, what what kinds of content invoke honor or piety or any of these, these more complex emotions, remember that you don’t have to stick to a base emotion not to, you know, pick anger or happiness or sadness, you can.

    There are pallets of emotion, that are composed of the base emotions in varying proportions.

    And that that is something that you can do some level of quantification on, it’s not exact, there is still a lot of room for improvement in the natural language processing tools available on the market to do that kind of analysis, but at least it can point you directionally, like, Hey, I’m gonna write this piece on, on supposed to make people feel happy.

    And you run it through one of these scoring tools and says, hmm, looks like you’ve written mostly about anger, like whoops.

    So that is, what you can do.

    To get people to engage with your content is right with the target emotion mind after you’ve done your market research, and then use various natural language processing tools to let you know if you’re on the right track or not.

    And then, of course, you measure it right? Does content that you put together with this new emotional focus? does it perform better or worse than your existing Condon? You’re doing, you know, essentially like a clinical trial, almost your you’re going to be AB testing emotional content versus non emotional content to see how it performs.

    So really good question.

    Emotions are tricky, because everybody’s an individual, and everybody’s emotions are different.

    And there are common grounds, but there are also just as many exceptions to the rule.

    So it’s one of the reasons why it is really important to get a representative sample when you’re doing your market research.

    So that is not people exactly like you.

    Unless all of your customers are exactly like you.

    If that’s the case, then that would be the sample you’d want to take.

    If you have follow up questions on this topic, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Determining Facebook Ads Effectiveness?

    You Ask, I Answer: Determining Facebook Ads Effectiveness?

    Jen asks, “How can brands find out which kind of Facebook Ads work best for them?”

    You’ll need to do a content assessment in 4 layers:
    – Audience content
    – Your own content
    – Competitive content
    – Landscape content

    Once you’ve done all 4, you’ll have an understanding of what the different concepts and media types are that resonate with your target audience and can determine the ad format and content.

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    In today’s episode, Jen asks, How can brands find out which kind of Facebook ads work best for them? So this is a important question for not just Facebook ads, but any kind of ad.

    The advantage of Facebook is that it’s a closed ecosystem so that you can do apples to apples comparison of the different types of content.

    The starting point for this is content analysis is understanding what resonates with audiences.

    So you’re going to need to brush up on your Facebook data analysis skills, and getting data out of Facebook so that you can analyze it.

    There’s four different buckets of content that you need to understand.

    The first is audience content themselves.

    If you have a list of people that are customers at face, customers are your company on Facebook, looking at at their stuff, what do they share? What do you They post What do they talk about? And this can be qualitative.

    This does not have this step does not have to be strictly quantitative.

    It’s just trying to get an understanding of what stuff.

    Do people find compelling? What stuff? Do they post on Facebook? What are the things that they share? And then we share and comment on.

    Getting that sense of who the audience is, is really important.

    And you can also get some of this information, not all of it, but some of it from Facebook Audience Insights, if you have a page, and that page has at least 1000 likes, then you can start to really dig into the data and understand what are the aspects of the audience that are important, what other pages Do they like? What were their demographics, things like that.

    If you have access to Facebook data tools like Facebook, Audience Insights, Facebook, CrowdTangle, etc.

    You can pull a lot of this data and start doing it.

    Very large scale topic modeling to understand.

    For example, if your audience in Facebook Audience Insights your audiences there, you can look at the top 50 pages that that audience also likes, and examine, again, examine their content.

    Second step is you have to understand your own content.

    So again, this is this is going into Facebook analytics, and doing an analysis of the stuff that you’ve posted, what content has gotten an engagement, what content has got has performed? Well, understanding that is critical for your ad content.

    Because what you don’t want to do is just kind of create ads randomly.

    You want to create ads on things, topics, concepts, ideas, that have already done well for you for your Facebook page.

    If you haven’t done that, if you have no content that resonates Well, well.

    Facebook might not be the place for you then.

    If you’re posting and posting, posting, just getting nothing Maybe do a week of boosting posts just to see if anything resonates with your audience you might have to pay to play just to even be seen, and then make some judgments based on that.

    The third data segment you need is competitive content.

    So what are your competitors sharing? What are your competitors? What ads your competitors running? And what kind of engagement do they get on them? This would be direct competitors.

    And again, you want to see what’s popular.

    The fourth bucket is what I call landscape content.

    This is looking at companies that are functionally similar to yours, but are not competitive.

    So let’s say you own a Chinese food restaurant that delivers you, you might look at other Chinese food restaurants, you might look at other pizza restaurants, restaurants that deliver in general, you might look at instacart you might look at the coffee shop You might look at Whole Foods, basically, for people who get consumer items delivered to their house, what content is engaging with them? Are there things that are relevant to the product or service that is being shared in this landscape of behaviors? If you’re a b2b company and you sell SaaS based accounting software, what do other SaaS companies not in accounting software doing? What is working for them was like SAS based email marketing, software marketing automation software.

    Again, we’re not necessarily looking for the exact topic for those non competitive but similarly structured companies.

    What we’re looking for is audience behavior of a group of people who are receptive to the type of service that you offer, and then trying to figure out what resonates with those people.

    Once you’ve done all four analyses, you have a you should have an idea of the different concepts different media types, different topics that your audience is interested in.

    I would also suggest using a social listening tool, some guidelines, we used Talkwalker for all of our stuff.

    And again, getting a sense of those topics and keywords and related conversational things in order to understand your audience better.

    Once you’ve got all that down, then you can start creating ads, you should be able to see if in your Facebook data that videos about cats always seem to do well or videos.

    Behind the scenes videos always seem to do well.

    Even if they’re not yours.

    Even they’re competitive.

    That should give you a sense of Okay, if we’re going to run ads on a video, the video that we run ads on or the video that we put in our ads should be behind the scenes or maybe you know behind the scenes video with cats in it right.

    If content that talks about How your product works has resonated well with your audience.

    Try running some ads on that as well.

    The key is to try and align your ads as best as possible with what the audience already likes.

    Because with Facebook, you don’t get many shots at engagement, right? The algorithm works in such a way that content that gets engaged with does better content that doesn’t get engaged with get does worse.

    And it becomes very much kind of as virtuous or vicious circle of feedback, where things simply you get less and less engagement, which means you get shown less, which means you get even less engagement.

    And obviously, the only way out of the vicious cycle is to pay your way back to getting some eyeballs.

    That’s why the competitive analysis and the landscape analysis is so important because your own data may say, hey, nothing’s working.

    And if that’s the case, you need to look at other data sources to calibrate your ads on so that’s it How you can find out what kinds of ads work best for you.

    I would strongly encourage, as you do that, to test to test a lot of different stuff, if you have the budget to do so, test a lot of stuff to see what different types of content are.

    So when you do this analysis, we have four or five or six major topics.

    If you got the budget run, you know, two to three ads in each topic and see again, which one resonates the best, which one gets people to engage even with the ad itself.

    If after all this, you still not getting ad performance, it’s probably because Facebook isn’t the place for you, for your audience, even if they’re there, they may not want to engage with your kind of business on Facebook because that’s not why they’re on Facebook.

    They’re on Facebook to stay in touch with friends, to complain about politics, you know, all the things that we usually use Facebook for And so doing business with you may not that may not be the place you may be better off on a LinkedIn or Twitter or YouTube, or even an email newsletter, right? So do the analysis.

    But understand that Facebook may not be the place for you.

    The easiest way to make that determination is check how much unpaid traffic you’re already getting from Facebook.

    If it’s zero, or very close to zero, or you know less than 1% of your site’s traffic.

    Facebook might not be the place run some tests to verify it, run some ads to test that assumption.

    And if the ads don’t perform, you know, it’s not it’s not the place for your audience.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Makes a Good Content Marketing Idea?

    You Ask, I Answer: What Makes a Good Content Marketing Idea?

    Stephanie asks, “How do you define what makes a good, quality content idea?”

    The easy answer is whether it provokes emotion. Measure your emotional writing with a service like IBM Watson Tone Analyzer.

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    In today’s episode, Stephanie asks, How do you define what makes a good quality content idea? Fundamentally, a good idea is one that provokes some kind of emotion.

    Right? It makes you care about it, when you’re creating it should provoke something and then when you send it out to a beta tester, it should provoke something in them.

    For years, I’ve had a what’s called a three l framework.

    When you’re working on an idea, if it doesn’t make you laugh, if you didn’t learn something, when you were building it, if you don’t love it so much that you’re talking to, you know, your significant other or a friend who’s not involved in the company or the industry, he just can’t stop talking about you know, you’ve got a good idea.

    You know, you got something that is exciting to you.

    It makes you happy.

    You engaged with it.

    And those are the same criteria as well from the readers or the consumers perspective, right? It should be educational.

    It should be entertaining, possibly it should be engaging.

    Did did you laugh? Does it make you does it provoke some kind of reaction? Did you learn something? If your content doesn’t fulfill any of those criteria, it’s not a good idea.

    Right? On the other hand, if Phil’s at least one, there’s some sharpening of the pencil you could do to make it better to elevate it, but at least you’ve got that one.

    If you can get all three, you’ve got a piece of magic I enhance and that is something that is very difficult to to create without a lot of work.

    I was writing a piece of short fiction not too long ago, and in the first version of it, I had a beta reader read through it and be like, okay, Good.

    Good isn’t what I’m going after a good as good isn’t great, right? So I rewrote the ending for it, I handed it back to this person.

    And I said, Give it another read through.

    And we’re back.

    Oh my god.

    fpu because I, there’s a twist at the end of the story.

    And that’s what I knew I had a great piece of content.

    It provokes such a strong emotional reaction in the person they like, I feel like that’s the winner.

    I know.

    That’s, I know, that’s something.

    There’s a there there.

    And when other people have read it, like okay, yeah, that’s that that was the thing.

    You have to figure out which emotions you write well, because it’s not always going to be ones that are necessarily appropriate all the time.

    And it depends on your creative abilities right? Some people can create humorous content really well consistently all the time comedians do this all the time.

    And yes, they have you know missus and they will take stuff out like a small comedy club and test it out for small crowd and you know some stuff just bombs, but other stuff does really well depending on the audience.

    You may not be able to do humor if it’s not one of my capabilities to create consistently humorous material.

    You may be good at creating material that makes people sad, right? There are any number of really good writers that can create you know, angsty stories that are just heart wrenching tales.

    That may be the emotion that you’re good at.

    You could be somebody and you have to use this power judiciously.

    You could be somebody who’s really good at making people angry intentionally by design, writing content that makes people angry.

    If That kind of person, there are a number of political campaigns that would like to help.

    And, you know, there’s, again, one of the basic core emotions, you may be good at making people afraid.

    Again, a lot of marketers do this not well, either.

    Microsoft for years was known as, as the company of fun, fear, uncertainty and doubt being able to create content that created those emotions and people and made them purchase Microsoft products as the safe haven as a safe haven from all these, you know, crazy new things, they would say could ruin your company rarely ever did.

    But they were really good at that, that writing style.

    So when you’re creating content, figure out what emotions you’re really good at writing.

    And there’s are a number of tools out there suddenly, like IBM, Watson has Watson Tone Analyzer and Watson personality insights but Tone Analyzer is the one that will can take a piece of text and and tell you what you meant.

    motions appear in the language and centers around was it? anger, fear, sadness, anticipation, joy.

    Gosh, I’m missing two.

    But there’s eight emotional directly directions are vectors that it measures your text on.

    Take some of the content that you’ve written in the past, your best pieces that you that you feel are the best way to perform the best feed into a service like you know Watson Tone Analyzer.

    It is a free demo, you can try and see what emotions you’re really good at writing.

    Even if it’s not necessarily once you think that you’re you’re good at writing it, if the they’ve performed well, you have the objective measurement, they’ve performed well.

    And the software says hey, you’re really good at writing joyful pieces.

    Great.

    You know that and then you can double down on that and working on improving the language that you use to bring out even more more of that.

    So what makes good quality content is emotions, provoking them, eliciting them from people.

    And the most important thing you can do is to figure out which emotions you’re good at writing.

    The challenge you may run into, is that what you’re good at is what your company is not aligned with their brand, right? If you’re really good at writing content that engages fear, and your company is like a yoga, there could be a bit of a mismatch.

    And in those situations, you have to figure out how do you write in such a way, and maybe you partner with somebody else on on your team if there’s someone else available that can write in those other styles.

    Again, using the tools like Watson Tone Analyzer, you may be able to analyze pieces that other folks on your team have written or in your company, and see what are the companion emotions that you could do.

    Team up with somebody else and collaborate and create content that strikes a good balance between those two emotions.

    It’s, you know, the the, they’re not negative, but they’re associated with being negative emotions, like anger and fear, are good as part of a piece of content.

    Because in your standard marketing copy, you’re looking at what state the problem, what the impact of the problem is, what the solution is, and then how your company fulfills that solution.

    That fear and anger right and goes in the problem and impact right, you know, this is the problem.

    This is what happens if you don’t solve the problem.

    And if the writing that someone, a joyful person would be like, I don’t know how to express this in, you know, the impact in a compelling way.

    Like, if you don’t solve this problem, I don’t think so.

    Okay, that won’t sell anything.

    That’s where you as the writer who’s like adding to these terrible things will happen and you’ll lose your job and someone will come and take your dog away.

    That will allow you To use those skills there and then you have your your, your colleague who can write in the emotional release of the solution in the second half of the content it will Delta work on making a unified voice.

    But knowing the emotions you’re good at and then figuring out how to artfully weave them into pieces of content is important.

    So again, yep, questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Where to Find Data for Real Estate?

    You Ask, I Answer: Where to Find Data for Real Estate?

    Gina asks, “I’m in real estate and 2021 promises to be a very data active year for real estate, based on the market rise in 2020 and an expected fall in 2021. Would love to hear how and where you gain data for study – is it just via NAR? Other sources?”

    This is an important question because it’s not just the data itself that’s important – it’s also what we do with it. This kind of exploratory data analysis has three major components: the goal/requirements, the data, and the processing of it.

    You Ask, I Answer: Where to Find Data for Real Estate?

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    In today’s episode, Gina asks, I’m in real estate and 2021 promises to be a very data active year real estate based on the market rise in 2020.

    And unexpected fall in 2021.

    Would love to hear how and where you gain data for studies that justify things like National Association of Realtors or other sources.

    So this is an important question, because not just about the data itself.

    data by itself doesn’t really help us with anything.

    And one of the things that we say a lot around the shop is data without decisions distraction, we need to understand what decisions are we trying to make for the individual real estate agent? It could be things like forecasting and what’s likely to happen to your business.

    Is it a buyer’s market as a seller’s market what’s what’s likely to happen? For a firm like, say a Coldwell Banker, it could be macro economics, looking at the Market overall, what are the profitability? Is the market for the buyer or the seller? The individual homeowner? it’s things like probabilities, how easy will it be for me to sell a home or buy a home? will it cost me more or less.

    And one of the challenges with real estate, in general, but in in data specifically, is that there’s a lot of data that goes into real estate.

    So this is where you’re going to have an exploratory data analysis methodology that’s going to look at three major things, right? Number one, what’s the goal? Like, what is it what are you trying to prove? Or what do you find the research? Number two, what data do you need to prove that and then number three, what is the processing methodology, the algorithms you choose the tools, the techniques, the process that you go through to analyze the data, and it’s it’s gonna be an iterative process because there’s good chance that As you start digging further and further into all the different data that’s available, you’re gonna find a whole bunch of dead ends, you’re gonna find some things that don’t have even associations or correlations.

    And so causation is unlikely.

    And you may learn as you talk to people that there’s there’s some things that simply are unpredictable, they cannot be predicted.

    So, let’s talk about the data itself.

    Where would you go to get information like this, if you’re an agent, obviously, you have MLS, the Multiple Listing system that is probably going to be your best source of local data that you can find.

    Some of that information does get bubbled up to two sites that have API’s like Zillow, for example, realtor.com and realtor.com just started sharing its data with the St.

    Louis Federal Reserve Bank, their Fred database system which is really powerful because There’s about 200,000 other data sets in there that you can use to bring into your analysis.

    So think about all the things that go into real estate, there is the home, right the value, the vocal market, price of the of the listing, how many other listings are around it, those are all things that you would get out of systems like MLS, for example.

    Then there’s also the the economic aspects, what he has, for example, the mortgage rates 30 year fixed, 15 year fixed variable rate, etc.

    Those rates can have a causal impact on the market.

    If rates are low, people are more likely to buy because they can afford it.

    If rates are high, that tends to cool things down.

    So you’d want to find that data as well.

    And that’s something that again, is available in the St.

    Louis Federal Reserve Bank feeds.

    Their Fred database is fantastic.

    It’s one of the best sources for quantitative data, particularly anything economic the You can find, you’re going to look at things like okay in your area, then can you locate household income or real personal wages and stuff, all the things that would allow a person to buy a house? What effect do those have on the market? You’ll look at things like search data from places like Google and the SEO tools of your choice.

    Those will help you understand where people’s heads are in the marketplace.

    And you used to be able to forecast that from that data really well.

    Since the pandemic started, that date has been all over the place, it’s been really messy.

    And so much so that it’s not reliable for long term forecasts right now and probably won’t be for some time.

    For example, I’m recording this on August 23.

    It’s been about three weeks since government assistance stopped for employment share and stuff.

    And so that is starting to have real ripple effects in the economy.

    Depending on how long this goes on, you could have, you know, large scale bankruptcies, homelessness, all sorts of things that will that make forecasting the economic conditions, you know, any further up in a couple of weeks impossible.

    There’s just too many balls in the air.

    So those are cases where now we’re starting to get into the processing discussion.

    What do we do with the data? Do we try to forecast? I would say no, but I would say any real estate agent or agency worth its salt should be pulling this data frequently.

    And having near real time dashboards of what’s happening in your local market so that you can understand Oh, this is these are the conditions that are happening now.

    And how they might impact sales, how they might impact listings, how they might impact people’s even willingness to consider selling, or buying a home property value prices.

    One of the big question marks that’s going to happen at the state local levels in the next really two to five years, if not sooner, is what will municipalities have to do with taxes in order to make up for the huge shortfalls that they’re seeing everywhere, right.

    And it becomes something of a vicious circle as people lose their homes, you have a smaller tax base, so you have to raise taxes on those people who are still able to pay taxes to finance your local government.

    Again, these are all things that are very, very difficult to forecast.

    But the very straightforward I want to say easy but very straightforward to pull in, near real time data.

    And you can pull it in from the federal level, you can pull it in from the state level, depending on on your state, and how into the 21st century they are.

    And all of that can be boiled down into things like dashboards and indicators that give you a sense of here’s what’s happening and give you a chance.

    Two to four week horizon to look out and say, okay, job, unemployment rates in my region have gone up x percentage in the last two weeks that’s going to be a problem that’s gonna be a drag on the economy is gonna be a drag on home buying, be prepared for that and we’re working with sellers to say the sellers.

    Look, don’t be too picky right now on the offer because the local economy is softening, right? Or conversely you could say, hey, things have really picked up.

    It’s okay to be a little more choosy about your buyer.

    Because there’s gonna be more buyers coming out of the woodwork if you see that happens.

    So all of these processing aspects of the data are going to be really important.

    Where do you get started with something like this? Start with a business requirements, right? What do you need to be able to do and then start looking for the data.

    You don’t have to try and ingest everything all at once.

    You probably shouldn’t.

    But start trying to identify what are the key indicators that have driven Whatever KPI you’re you care about whether it’s home sales or price or whatever.

    What are the drivers, the top two or three indicators that drive that that’s, you’ll be doing a regression analysis for that.

    And then, based on that, start putting together your dashboards like maybe it is mortgage rates and local unemployment and recent sale prices.

    If that combination of variables is the is the magic number that says this really strongly predicts your KPI.

    That’s what you put on a dashboard.

    That’s what you start to monitor and you keep an eye on it.

    And you forecast as far as you can afford reliably, which again is like two to four weeks these days.

    That’s a good place to start.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Adapting Presentations for Virtual?

    You Ask, I Answer: Adapting Presentations for Virtual?

    Cathy asks, Can an in-person talk be adapted for a digital experience? What skills are different for virtual presentations?

    In a room, you are addressing one to many. In a digital/virtual environment, you are addressing one to one. For the most part, on the other end of a connection there won’t be a dozen people.

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    In today’s episode Kathy asks, can have in person talk be adapted for a digital experience? What skills are different for virtual presentations? A lot of different, a lot is different.

    And the most important thing I think to keep in mind, is that a virtual presentation when you are as we are right now, talking to each other while I’m talking to you, I guess is that it’s not a stage.

    Right? Look around you right now there.

    How many other people are watching this with you? Not many, right? When you’re onstage in a big room, it’s 100,000 10,000 people all there and there’s a definite different energy and the language that you use will reflect that.

    Walk on stage.

    Hey, folks, Great to see ya.

    Right? When we’re on a channel like this, I go Hey, folks, and you’re like, what? what folks? It’s me and my office, right? It’s me on my phone.

    It’s only me.

    So, from a communications perspective, one of the biggest change is that public speakers have had to make and should make and if you’re doing a talk, you should make sure you’re not talking to a roomful of people.

    Even if you see 25 heads on the bowl, zoom interface, whatever.

    From the customer’s perspective, you are talking just to them is a one to one conversation to them, especially on a webinar, like zoom calls, you can at least see, you know, the floating heads on a webinar where this you know, yeah, you take this to the list of attendees, 125 people or whatever listening, but it really is only you, and both and the speaker.

    So as a speaker, you have to change your language.

    You have to change your mannerisms.

    You change the way you speak.

    Speak when you’re talking to an audience one to one.

    I changed a lot of what I do my videos when I realized that it’s just you and me.

    Right? Even language like that.

    It’s like it’s not it’s not just me and my audience, right, that’s me and assuming that’s a one to many relationship, but when we’re talking like this, it’s one one’s just you and me.

    having a conversation.

    One of the challenges that people are going to face that speakers have a really hard time with in virtual environments is lack of feedback.

    In a roomful of people, you can see guys, everyone on their phones, right? People holding their phones, taking pictures, or they, you know, taking photos, your slides, you can tell when people are engaged in virtual environments, very difficult to do.

    So, as a speaker, one of the things you’ve got to get real comfortable with is talking to nobody.

    Right? talking to an audience that isn’t there.

    A silly trick that some people do enjoy doing is they’ll take a look at an actual photo of somebody they respected, they’ll put it right next to their camera, and they’ll talk to that photo.

    And, and and it helps make them make the mental connection that there is somebody on the other end of this piece of plastic and glass and metal.

    And it helps direct the conversation and the feeling.

    Because your brain is thinking I do see a person there.

    That helps.

    Just like with a zoom call, one of the things I recommend you do is like these little boom arms here, can you can put a camera on them and then you can move that around.

    I like to put the camera in the middle of the zoom window.

    So I’m looking at the zoom window.

    I’m seeing the people as as I’m talking to them when I do like classes and things.

    Other things that change, there is a a strong prohibition against having more than like 10 words on the slide for onstage talks.

    The reason In a simple, our brains are language based brains and image based brains left, right, whatever you want to call it.

    The language processor is a serial processor and ahead.

    So we can only interpret one language stream at a time.

    That’s why I have two people talking at the same time, it’s very hard to make out what they’re saying.

    But you can look at two different images at the same time, right, you can go to art gallery and see like a wall full of images.

    You can hear a bunch of different sounds and a piece of music because that part of the brain works differently.

    When we’re on stage.

    I want people listening to the words I’m saying and not reading off of the slide.

    In a virtual environment that’s different.

    There is no person to pay attention to.

    And so you can have a few more words on a slide.

    And that actually directs the audience gives them something to do if it’s just a slide of like a picture of your dog, which I have a fair number of, that’s fine, but then I had better be an even better speaker.

    Even more entertaining a different tone so that people are engaged with that because at that point, if it’s just a slide and a voice, you’re basically a radio show.

    Right? At that point you are a radio show with a billboard as if you are not a speaking human being that can be helped by having like little picture and picture.

    persons, you know, the the the webcam running, that shows that there’s actually a person there.

    When possible, do stuff live.

    A lot of shows a lot of conferences gone to, you know, canned talks, and that’s okay.

    Because it certainly is a very uneven experience based on technology.

    People have their houses about what kind of content you can deliver.

    But if you can do stuff live, if you can do stuff with tons of QA, virtual environments are great for that.

    There’s a chat room.

    You know, one of the challenges we have with on stage talks is you don’t want people to You’re raising hand the mill, you’re talking, hey, yeah, this is work, right.

    But you can absolutely have that happen in in the chat for a virtual experience and have people ask questions as they have money.

    Oh, yeah, that that’s a question I want to ask them.

    They, if you create that experience, and you’re amenable to that experience, when you’re talking, you can either weave it into the talk itself or have a longer q&a, like if you are talking, you’re 16 minutes in and the chat is filled with questions, you can say, Okay, you know what, I’m going to change my talk a little bit shorten up as we can tackle all these great questions that came in.

    So you have to be very flexible, to be able to deliver a lot of value like that.

    If you see there’s a ton of QA engagement already happening during the talk.

    The same is true for you.

    You can use interaction features.

    So there’s a lot of features in virtual environments, you know, people can raise their hands, they can, you know, put a little emojis in the chat and stuff like that you can stimulate some of that engagement to ask people to pay attention, essentially.

    But at the end of the day, it’s still conference call, it’s still radio a lot of the time.

    At best, it’s a YouTube video, it is not the same as being in a conference room.

    And the reason the big thing behind that is that you’ve not taking that audience member out of their comfortable environment that they used to with all the distractions of an office or a home office or, or, or whatever.

    And their mindset is different.

    They are not in the mindset of I’m here for two days to learn this thing there.

    their mindset is, I’m popping in for 45 minutes between meetings to learn this thing.

    And so you have to remember that and engage them where they are in that context.

    Okay, folks, if you’re here, you know, the dog is barking or the kids are crying, cool.

    Step out as you need to, this is being recorded.

    Copy will be provided to you.

    And one tip that I find super helpful is to make sure that you provide you with cereals in multiple formats when you’re done.

    So provide the slides, yes, provide the audio.

    So if somebody wants to read, listen, they can, which means you have to think about how heavily does your presentation or live visuals, provide the video, the recording, and provide an AI based transcript or real human transcript if you want to pay for it, but an AI based transcript so if someone just wants to read through the talk, people read way faster than we talk, people can read up to 400 words a minute, we kept pretty much to be intelligible at about 150 words a minute.

    So providing that that transcript can help someone find just the part of the presentation they want.

    You can take a digital presentation and slice it up in a whole bunch of different ways and provide a lot of post event value.

    So that’s how to adapt presentations for the virtual world.

    There’s a lot you can do.

    There’s a lot you should do.

    But it starts with recognizing that you’re not talking to a roomful of people anymore.

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