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  • You Ask, I Answer: Reposting Year-Old Social Media Content?

    You Ask, I Answer: Reposting Year-Old Social Media Content?

    Lindsay asks, “Does anyone repost content from a year ago on social media? Like “one year ago today” – has this been successful?”

    Reposting and recycling content is a fine idea as long as the original content performed well, or circumstances have changed that would make the old content do better now. Look at 3 data sets when you consider old content – yours, your direct competitors, and the overall landscape. Are there topics done by others that you could do a recap perspective on (which would technically be original content but using old, top-performing ideas)? Never plagiarize, but do tap into the historical zeitgeist.

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    In today’s episode, Lindsay asks, Does anyone repost old content from a year ago on social media, like one year ago today time hop stuff that has this been successful.

    So reposting old content, reshaping it, recycling it, etc is fine.

    It’s a it’s a perfectly good idea that can get, you know, decent performance on older content as long as the original content performed well, or circumstances have changed that would make the old content do better.

    Now, there’s videos that you released, for example, that didn’t get much traction the first time because people were watching other things and you feel like now your viewership on your YouTube channel has gone up.

    For example, now it’d be a fine time to reshare that and see if it does any better.

    reshare reshoring old content is it’s just tapping into this.

    Is that was and the advantage you have with older content is that you already have the analytics for it.

    Obviously, every time you put a new social media post, you have no idea how it’s going to do me think that a piece of content is brilliant or fun or whatever and it flops.

    And Alternately, you may find that something that you didn’t expect to do well took off.

    Well, good news.

    You never have that problem with old content because you know what happened, you know where it went, you know how it performed.

    So look at three different data sets for older content number one, and the one that you’ll draw from the most is your own content.

    What did you post that did well, and if you go to reshare, it repost it is there a new spin or a new point of view or a new perspective that you can put on it that would give you a fresh take on something old, even if it’s just a new caption on it at all.

    This picture from a year ago, a throwback Thursday, whatever.

    You’re seeing a lot of this right now, in the middle of a crisis that we’re currently in.

    people sharing photos and videos and things of parties and stuff of good memories they have of times past.

    That’s a really good example of something where the circumstances have changed.

    And so the context of the old content can be updated to be contextually relevant today.

    The second data set you’ll want to take a look at is for that same time period, plus or minus seven days in either direction.

    You have yours.

    What are your direct competitors doing what stuff of theirs did? Well, if you go back into the older social feeds, do you see posts of theirs that did really well? Is there an idea or a topic that you could refresh like a year ago in our industry? This idea was popular without plagiarizing.

    Never plagiarize? But without outright stealing their content, is there a perspective of your own that you can offer on what was happening a year ago? And then the same is true for the sort of the overall landscape in your industry, you know, non direct competitors, vendors, partners, things like that.

    Looking at those three different data sets, which you can get from any social media monitoring application that lets you go back a year in time, what was going on? What was doing well, and then how do you create a new perspective on it? How do you create something that was really relevant, this works really well, really well, when you’re about to go to some kind of event or conference under normal circumstances.

    But even now, being able to look back like we’re coming up, it’s the end of March, as I record this, coming up in April would have been a marketing Technology Conference can look back at the previous years and say, hey, these are the topics that were popular back then.

    And while the event this year has been cancelled, the the context has not been canceled.

    People still need marketing technology.

    What were the trends that were identified at last year’s event that we could see how they’ve changed or grown since then, that gives you the ability to stay timely to leverage the data you collected about that conference or that industry event previously, and offer a spin on it.

    And because the current event in this example has been cancelled, you might be one of the few voices actually talking about the thing during that time period instead of being a diamond among millions, right? If you’re is a major event that would have happened what what would you be saying that would have gotten drowned out because of bigger or, or better funded competitors that you could now get a little bit more of the spotlight for you know, Hey, remember With this great time we had at this, this past thing and some of the ideas from it.

    Here’s what we took away from it, then here’s what we think has changed now.

    And we’re not able to go to that event.

    But here’s what we would have shared if the event had been on.

    But the look back works fine No matter what, as long as you’re dealing with older content that is still relevant, or old content that’s not relevant that you can offer a new point of view on.

    So never should never plagiarize, create new context around the old content, and then identify the content that performed best those are the three things to do to repost old content from a year ago or two years ago or five years ago or whatever, on social media that can give you really good results.

    Because you know, the original stuff did well and can help you stay relevant even take advantage of the fact that people are looking back at better times.

    That’s just the nature of things.

    So if you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Mental Wellness, Self-Care, and Marketing in a Pandemic?

    You Ask, I Answer: Mental Wellness, Self-Care, and Marketing in a Pandemic?

    Isaac asks, “How are you keeping your mental health afloat right now? With the covid news everywhere, its really hitting me hard. I deeply wish I could stop looking at social media right now, but its my job!”

    Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional. Consult a qualified medical professional immediately, especially if you feel unsafe, such as considering self-harm.

    I can only tell you what works for me. What I find helpful is staying informed from the most qualified sources. A lot of the regular news media tends to oversimplify, distort, or hype up news, taking accurate information out of context.

    Other suggestions: schedule your time on social media rigorously with a timer, so you can fulfill your job requirements.

    Use a management tool like Agorapulse (disclosure: partner) to interface with customers so you’re not on the networks themselves.

    Set aside mental health breaks – you’re more than allowed to go outside and enjoy some sunshine.

    Stay in touch with friends – use your network for support. You’re not alone in this – literally everyone is in the same place.

    Find a form of meditation that works for you – everyone is different. Some people need to move, others need to sit, some need to sing, etc.

    Finally, suspend your normal rules. This is a highly abnormal situation. As long as you’re obeying quarantine/distancing rules, do what’s fun for you. Bust out those guilty pleasures. Watch that series on Netflix.

    You Ask, I Answer: Mental Wellness, Self-Care, and Marketing in a Pandemic?

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    In today’s episode, Isaac asks, How are you keeping your mental health afloat right now with the Cova news everywhere it’s really hitting me hard.

    I would deeply Wish I could stop looking at social media right now but it’s my job.

    You’re not alone.

    Full disclaimer first, I am in no way shape or form a qualified medical professional or mental health professional.

    If you feel unsafe, please, you know, use the telemedicine option on your insurance or whatever.

    please get in touch with a qualified medical professional or qualified mental health professional if you feel unsafe is priority number one is keeping yourself safe.

    So that’s it.

    I can only tell you what works for me.

    What works for me is finding the most credible sources of information and following them.

    What you see in the mainstream media is Typically oversimplified it is distorted.

    It is a little snip out 10 second sound bites, in some new sources cases, just absolute outright lies.

    There’s a lot of hype, and these publications need the eyeballs.

    So a lot of accurate information gets taken out of context.

    I like to go to rigorously qualified sources like New England Journal of Medicine journal, the American Medical Association, World Health Organization, the Lancet, all the medical publications that have a strong interest in sharing correct information, even if it’s technically dense, even if it’s not thrilling or exciting prose at this point, I don’t want exciting prose I just want to know, as close to accurate information as possible.

    Same for following people on social media.

    I follow epidemiologists infectious disease spec specialists virologists, anybody who has a qualified perspective and is doing good work and releasing data.

    Those are the people I follow because I trust that they are working towards a solution.

    They are working towards giving the public as accurate information as possible.

    And in a lot of cases, they’re not the ones on news because they’re not media trained, and they’re not.

    They’re not people who can communicate in five second sound bites, although some of these concepts take 10 minutes to explain, and that’s okay.

    So I like that’s how I stay informed about this.

    other suggestions for marketing purposes? Yes, you do have to do your job.

    So schedule your time, particularly on social media right now.

    Set a timer on your phone or something like that so that you can fulfill your job requirements and do what’s required, but not more than that.

    If you don’t have one look at a tool like Agorapulse that’s a social media management tools, you know, social inbox.

    That way you can interface with customers or Respond to inquiries, review things and stuff but you don’t have to be on the main network itself where you see your newsfeed I you know it’s on a project coronavirus.

    Set aside, mental health breaks, you know you’re allowed to take a break, you’re allowed to go outside for a walk.

    Enjoy some sunshine, sometimes the best disinfectant kills viruses like you wouldn’t believe.

    Just stay away from other people.

    You’re allowed to take a break from meditation, you’re allowed to, you’re working from home, probably.

    So go find a quiet corner, wherever it is you live and you sing your favorite song.

    But take those breaks as you need them.

    Stay in touch with your friends, especially digitally, right? Because that’s where we all are, and use your network for support.

    Literally, you’re not alone in this literally every single person is in the exact same situation.

    So use your network, right use your connections, use these tools.

    For relying on others fire up a video chat.

    Now just have coffee with somebody to turn on video chat and you guys can sit down and talk, you just are not doing it in person, you can still see the person’s face and such.

    Find a form of meditation that works for you.

    A lot of people say meditation, but there are a lot of forms of meditation.

    And there’s going to be forms that work for you in forms that don’t some people can are totally good with the, you know, the standard type of sitting meditation, Zen style, meditation, she Conway are sitting quietly breathing, focusing on your breath, other people that drives them up the wall, like they just can’t do it.

    There are they’re sitting meditation, there’s moving meditations.

    There’s, you know, singing, painting, whatever it is, it gets you in the zone of focusing on something other than the noise in your mind, right.

    So you experiment around, figure out what works for you, whatever it is.

    That gives you that feeling of I’m focused on one thing only.

    And this is the thing, you know, painting, drawing, coloring books, whatever the case is, whatever works for you.

    It’s going to take some experimentation, but hey, we got time, right? So find that actually will be a great outcome from this particular situation to be able to figure out what really does work best for you.

    And finally, suspend your normal rules, right? This is a highly abnormal situation.

    This is a once in a century situation.

    As long as you’re obeying the rules that the authorities have set down for you, regarding social distancing and quarantine, do what’s fun for you, you know, have that extra bar chocolate, drink that bottle of wine, maybe not during work hours.

    But give yourself the permission to to do stuff a little outside the box right now.

    Because it is an unusual situation.

    It is a challenging situation for many and You want to be able to give yourself some forgiveness, right? Give yourself some permission.

    So keep that in mind.

    Again, I’m not a qualified mental health practitioner.

    If you feel unsafe, please dial up some help right away.

    In case you feel unsafe.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Building Communities on Slack?

    You Ask, I Answer: Building Communities on Slack?

    Belle asks, “I’ve always picked up from you guys something along the lines of ‘don’t build on other peoples land’ and ‘work on building your email lists’ which all make sense if other platforms disappeared you still have your contacts and I’ve lived by it. But now you seem to be promoting building on Slack, am I missing something here? What if the community you build on Slack you can no longer access? Or are you exporting emails?”

    You’re right that Slack isn’t an owned property, but the registration process through email certainly is, and that’s how we’d restart a community in case things changed. That’s not something you get from other social networks. We have looked at alternatives on servers you host, such as Mattermost.

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    In today’s episode Bell asks, I’ve always picked up from you guys that something along the lines of don’t build on other people’s land and work on building your email list which all makes sense of other platforms disappeared.

    You still have your contacts and I’ve lived by it.

    But now you seem to be promoting building on slack.

    Am I missing something here one of the community you built on Slack, you can no longer access? Are you exploiting emails? Bell you’re exactly right.

    on both counts.

    slack is not an own property.

    It is a SaaS based platform and unless they could theoretically vanish at any time, but what we’ve done for the analytics for marketers community which by the way, if you’re not a member of go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers, is used a piece of software called Community inviter community divider captures the email address and make sure that you’re invited to the community, but it also of course, gives the community owner a list of the people who have registered To join the community, that in turn gives us the ability to reach out to that list if we need to, for any reason, but especially if we would have to migrate services.

    And that’s really one of the major benefits of using a system like that.

    You can always reach out and ping somebody.

    And unlike a standard email form, the good news is that all the emails work, because that’s how you get into the community.

    So if somebody wants to join the community, that would be how to do that.

    You don’t get that from any other social network at all.

    You used to up until November of 2018, you used to be able to get out of LinkedIn.

    But that has since largely been deprecated, by LinkedIn making, sharing your email address with your contacts, not the default, you actually can still go in and set that but that is typically done mostly by sales professionals who want other people contacting them which was totally fine.

    So this particular A system of using community inviter for slack does give us access to the emails that people used to register for the community.

    We have looked at other collaboration software that would be run on servers that we run that we own.

    The principle one there would be a piece of software called matter most, which a lot of companies that are in highly regulated industries use.

    Because you run it on your own servers, it can be run inside your firewall if you need to.

    It is more cumbersome.

    And the reason we didn’t go that route for the Trust Insights community is not because we wanted to run our own servers or not, but because it is an uncommon platform.

    When somebody has the slack client on their desktop and on their phone, browser and such.

    It is easier for them to just add themselves to a new slack community than it is For them to install, yet another app that they may or may not check.

    Again, we did give it some thought because if somebody installs an app just for you, that’s not a bad thing.

    But there is more overhead and less likelihood of them participating than if it’s an app that they have to have open for work all the time, right? If you’re at a company that uses slack internally for collaboration you have it on.

    And therefore, if the communities you’re also a part of dropping messages and things, then you will be more likely to participate because it’s, it’s no extra overhead.

    You don’t have to open up an app, you don’t have to open up a new tab in your browser.

    It’s there already.

    And that was the primary consideration for why we stuck with slack.

    Now, if that changes, then we activate the backup plan.

    But until that changes, I don’t see a need to make that pivot yet but I think your point is a fantastic one, which is, have a backup plan, right? Be where and when possible build on land that you own your website, your email lists, your text messaging, list all that stuff, and have a plan B so that if things do go sideways, if slack loses all its funding, it will, or it decides that we’re going to charge everybody now you have the ability to pivot and go do something else.

    So I would say, keep your eyes on the collaboration space.

    I think 2020 as the year will be an exciting year for collaboration for what is possible.

    The other thing that we really like about Slack, which is tough to replicate with a lot of other standalone platforms is that it has a tremendous number of third party add ons.

    The ability to do all sorts of fancy polls to do integrations with Google Drive and Dropbox.

    The other packages are not there yet.

    They will get there they should get there.

    They won’t have any hope of competing with slack.

    But for right now, because it’s the market leader, there are a ton of integrations for it that make it the best default choice, at least for reaching a certain type of audience, which is another consideration.

    There are plenty of marketers who are not on slack.

    And that’s where other social media channels where your email newsletter in particular is very useful as you have some avenue of communication with folks who aren’t on slack.

    But what we found is when we look at our customer base, we look at the companies they work at and the technologies they use.

    A significant majority of them are also the type of company that uses slack.

    So when it comes to how you want to configure community collaboration and what service to go on, unfortunately, a big part of it has to be where people are.

    So for some companies as much as I I would strongly discourage it.

    They might have to build on like a Facebook groups, if that’s 100% of where your audiences and your audience is unwilling to go anywhere else.

    At the end of the day, you have to go where your audience is.

    We chose not to do that because the group’s compete with a newsfeed.

    And so the engagement was incredibly low, incredibly low.

    When we ran a Facebook group, it was, you know, two or three people seeing a post out of at the time 100, much less responding to it.

    So when 98% of your community can’t even see what you’re posting is definitely an issue.

    So good question.

    The mindset is great.

    build on what you own control as much as you can, so that if the ground changes if the rug gets yanked out from under you, you’re not left high and dry with something that you no longer have control of.

    There is a nonzero possibility that slack will do that.

    We don’t see any signs of it yet.

    Doesn’t mean it can’t change.

    They got acquired tomorrow or they got bought out.

    Who knows but having the list and having Plan B ready to go, definitely helps with that.

    So really good question.

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  • Social Media Marketing World 2020 #SMMW20 – Day 2 Recap

    Social Media Marketing World 2020 Day 2 Recap

    A recap of a key idea from day 2 of Social Media Marketing World 2020: how are we using social media data in places other than social media? I answer a question asked of me yesterday about doing small business and local business marketing with social data, but offline to reach new audiences.

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    Is episode recapping day two of Social Media Marketing World, lots of good introductory sessions to talk to a number of attendees who were really happy with the show overall.

    And a lot of the introductory material a lot of the crowd is the show for the first time.

    And so we’re getting a lot of benefit from the basics, making sure that the basics are solid and in good condition, which is super important making sure that you are using the basics.

    Well.

    One of the more advanced ideas that came out of a bunch of conversations yesterday was using social media data in an offline way.

    So we tend to think Think of online and offline as these separate things, you spend a lot of time running ads content.

    And then you have things that are like out of home advertising, direct mail, phone calls.

    And we don’t really put the two audiences together, we don’t ever take insights from one and use it to inform the other.

    There is a place for offline there is a place for print, there’s a place for traditional advertising, you have to do it well.

    And you have to do it very efficiently.

    So you’re looking for maximizing your return on investment from will be higher cost, higher expense forms of outreach.

    But there is a place for particularly since there’s more bandwidth in the offline 20 years ago, or 30 years ago, your postal mailbox was stuffed full of garbage, right just junk mail.

    And the inbox was magical place where your friends message You flip that around now and now your inbox and your social inboxes.

    And common feeds are all stuffed with junk and more ads and you can count and your postal mailbox basically does bills, maybe the occasional magazine random like political advertisement.

    And that’s it.

    So the in the physical inbox is now a place of informations relative information scarcity.

    And there are other channels you can use to reach audiences in the physical world.

    I was talking to someone yesterday who works at a propane company.

    And they were saying like they’ve they’ve hit diminishing returns on their Facebook ads.

    They’re spending, spending spending and just not getting the kinds of results that they’re looking for.

    So I said, Well, how we how are you trying to reach people within your service area more efficiently? They said, Well, you know, just just keep running ads like Wally Ad inventory, particularly this time of year, meaning in an election year is super expensive because every political campaign on Facebook is spending like a drunken sailor onshore leaf to to attract attention, said what if you could reach those people in an offline way and in a way that might make a lot of sense.

    And they said, well, like how would you do that with Facebook data? So you go to Facebook in, go to Facebook, Audience Insights, type in the geography of the place that kaamika that comprises your service area, like San Diego, California, and then go to tab to and Facebook audiences.

    It’s called page likes.

    And you’ll see all the things that people in that community like and if you don’t see things that you’re are immediately obviously leaping out as to where your audience is, then go into interest on the left.

    hand side and type in the word pizza.

    And you will start to see things like popular pizza restaurants in your service area.

    Reach out to that restaurant.

    And because many pizza places do offer an advertising program and say how much would it cost me to attach physical flyers to pizza boxes that deliver in this service area? Now, the cost may be higher than Facebook ad maybe, but submit substantially lower than like a printed magazine that’s substantially lower than newspaper and you’re reaching places that you know your audience is paying attention, right when somebody orders a pizza.

    How’s the sheet paper, they at least look at it first.

    Before they toss the box, hopefully in recycling, I said so that’s a use case where you can take Facebook data to identify the pizza shop that people like in that area and work with that to distribute a message and the same was true like live music venues.

    Is there a place that has your audience that you could go and buy? Like the little advertisement? in the restroom? Right? Is there a mall? Is there a theater? Is there a local musician that you could sponsor? That is really part of your core audience.

    Amanda Robinson over the digital gal said that it’s best when you buy Facebook ads, you’re buying data, you’re not buying this performance, you’re buying access to data.

    But with Facebook Audience Insights, you don’t have to buy anything, you can go in and use the targeting tool and just learn more about who your audience is.

    Do it now while the information is still available, because this will get regulated, regulated out of existence at some point, I’m sure.

    But go in and learn about your audience.

    And then are there hooks that you can use to reach out into the community and the target audience you’re looking at specially for local businesses.

    Specially for local business, and work on building those relationships in the real world, Facebook can give you the guidance as to where in the real world you should be spending that time based on the popularity of the interests, people have places they check in.

    And then you can use a channel that is less crowded, like the physical location itself.

    So that’s an important more advanced takeaway from conversations I had at the show.

    I didn’t actually go to any sessions on on the second day, because again, most of them were very introductory.

    And that’s great as there’s some important thing.

    But a lot of folks that I did touch chat with had some advanced questions, more experienced practitioners had some advanced questions about how do I get more out of what it is we’re doing with social media data, and so I think that’s certainly one of the most useful and entertaining and insightful ways that I could have spent the day chatting, and seeing the kinds of questions people ask about the data.

    But again, the conference was a fantastic conference, lots of good people, lots of new people always love talking to new people and seeing what people’s business challenges are with social media data.

    And stay tuned to the Trust Insights podcast and I couldn’t be posting the audio from my off the books workshop on data science one on one.

    So if you’re not subscribed, go over to Trust insights.ai.

    And you can find the podcast moment you subscribe to the podcast or Apple podcasts or Google podcasts where it’s called in ear insights.

    And you’ll you’ll hear that talk from yesterday that will be posted on traditional channels.

    So go over there.

    Thanks, of course to Social Media Examiner, the team there Mike stelzner Philip marshawn whole crew for putting on yet another wonderful year.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing Unsubscribes?

    You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing Unsubscribes?

    Anthony asks, “Why do you make it so easy to unsubscribe? Almost blatantly daring the recipient to do so.”

    We want people to unsubscribe if they don’t want to be on our lists any more. Why? It comes down to deliverability – the algorithms which put our emails in the inbox or in the spam bucket – we want as few bad subscribers as possible. One of the key drivers of that algorithm? Whether someone marks us as spam or not. We need that to happen as little as possible – so make the unsubscribe obvious.

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    In today’s episode Anthony asks, Why do you make it so easy to unsubscribe to your email marketing newsletter almost blatantly daring the recipient to do so.

    So this is a good question.

    If you haven’t seen the unsubscribe button in my newsletter, it looks like this.

    It is a it is blatantly obvious.

    And the reason for it has to do with deliverability rates.

    So in email marketing, your list size is important.

    But so is the percentage of people who open click and do stuff with your newsletter, the more people who don’t do anything with the newsletter, don’t open it, move it straight to the trash.

    Worst case scenario, flick it and click mark as spam, the worse your deliverability gets.

    And like all algorithms, the deliverability rate changes based on people’s behavior.

    So if you think about the analogy of the Facebook newsfeed right if people don’t engage with your posts, you start showing up less and less and less.

    The same is true on a more primitive scale with email marketing, the less people do things like open your email, the more algorithms like you know, g males.

    Priority Inbox, for example, will prioritize your newsletter.

    So, it may go to a separate tab in Gmail, for example, it may go to not showing up all that often it may go straight to spam in the worst case scenario.

    And so, we want to encourage people to be engaged.

    well as with any rate, you have a numerator and denominator, right the number opens versus the number of sentence.

    If you encourage people to unsubscribe, you are effectively reducing the denominator, right your if the if 10 People if you have a list of 110 people, right? And you have 10 opens, that’s that’s one out of 11 people opening, get 10 of those people to unsubscribe.

    And now it’s one out of 10.

    Right? Your numbers have gone up from point nine, two, to 109 2.1.

    And so, if we get rid of Deadwood on our lists, people who don’t open people who don’t click people who don’t do anything, we improve our performance with those algorithms.

    So it’s, it’s in our interest as marketers to have as engaged a list as possible.

    So that means a couple things.

    One, having an obvious unsubscribe, right, the more obvious we can make it the more painful the better and to getting rid of Deadwood on lists.

    If someone has an open an email from you in six months, or a year ever, like over nothing.

    It’s probably time for them to go, it’s time for that list to get pruned back, because it’s just hurting your performance, it just hurting your ability to show up and in eligos.

    Certainly, a key thing, if you’re not already doing it is using verification services.

    I use one called million verifier that I dumped my entire list to, and it validates which email addresses are working in which ones are broken.

    That’s super important.

    Because, again, if you’re sending email to bad addresses, you’re going to get penalized pretty heavily in those algorithms.

    So make your unsubscribe really obvious to get rid of people who don’t want to be there to get rid of people who don’t want to be engaged with you.

    Having inactive subscribers on your email list is the equivalent of having bought followers a lot of ways from a from an algorithm perspective.

    So we don’t want to do that.

    We want to get rid of them and make it obvious.

    One of the worst things that can happen to your email list is somebody clicking that market spam button.

    You do not want that to happen.

    Because that is a major reputation thing with these algorithms.

    Why would somebody hit mark as spam was built right into the interface super easy and like a Gmail.

    And if your unsubscribe link is to pick this two point font buried at the bottom, light gray on a white background, which a lot of marketers do, then guess what they’re going to be a little are going to take the least amount of work that they need to do and click mark as spam instead.

    Right You do not want that.

    You want people to find the unsubscribe link easily and hit that because you would rather lose that subscriber than have that subscriber report us spam because it’s just it’s a terrible, terrible reputation being in those algorithms not use personally.

    Your email sending reputation the lower your reputation goes again.

    the less likely it is E shopping algorithms.

    And finally, in terms of the easily unsubscribe button.

    One of the other things has happened with things like GDPR and ccpa is that you have to prove a lot as the marketer that you’ve obtained consent and all this stuff.

    But having such an obvious unsubscribe button means that if you ever do have to go to court to defend your marketing practices, and it comes up, can you tell us how easy is it for somebody to unsubscribe from your services? It’s here’s a, a giant page wide unsubscribe button with animation and clear text alternatives for the for accessibility.

    No, court no judge, no lawyer is going to look at and go well, it’s not really obvious is it? Right, when it’s so obvious it’s it’s hilarious.

    It makes a claim against you seem pretty silly.

    I’ve had people email me and say, I can find me on subscribe button like I’m pretty sure this is just a template email because if you can’t find the unsubscribe button, you probably need to see a doctor, I see an eye doctor or see some kind of doctor because it’s it’s really, really obvious.

    So those would be the reasons why it’s at least in my newsletters, the blatant the unsubscribe ones are so blatant because I want people to know what they’re getting into and how easy it is to get out so that I can improve my reputation in all these algorithms, and provide additional liability protection, good question.

    Really good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Measuring the Effectiveness of Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Measuring the Effectiveness of Marketing?

    Stephen asks, “What data points speak to the effectiveness of marketing? In a dashboard published to senior management the last pages of the pdf were dedicated to marketing data. It was visitors to the website, impressions from paid media, Facebook Likes, Twitter Followers, and another data point or two that to me put an undue burden on the reader. Any ideas on data that tells a story about the effectiveness (or at least influence) of marketing?”

    Fundamentally, it depends on marketing’s goal. Is it sales? Is it new customers? Is it revenue? This is why KPI mapping is so essential as an exercise. What’s the core outcome? Then run a multiple regression analysis to determine what other metrics correlate to that goal, then set up tests to prove causality.

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    In today’s episode Steven asks what data points speak to the effectiveness of marketing and a dashboard published a senior management here, the last pages of the PDF we’re dedicated to marketing data was visitors to the website impressions from paid media, Facebook likes, Twitter followers, etc.

    and it put an undue burden on the reader who had no clue how to do that translation any ideas on data that tells a story about the effectiveness or influence of marketing? So really good question because we see a lot of this in marketing reporting and analytics where people to sort of back the truck up, pour the data on the desk, and and make a huge mess of things.

    Avinash Kaushik calls it data puking, who got whatever you want.

    It’s not a good.

    Fundamentally, telling the story of marketing means telling the story of business impact and business impact for the most part for most organizations, most of the time.

    It’s going to be about revenue.

    It’s going to be about can we add dollars to the bottom line in some fashion either directly or as part of process marketing in many b2b organizations is all about feeding sales, feeding the sales team giving them leads.

    Glenn Glengarry Glen Ross, you know we need more leads, stuff, the leads are weak.

    And in a b2c company, it can be actually just getting customers in the door, right? It can be actual purchases, it can be people signing up for a tour, it can be people requesting a brochure, but whatever it is, there’s got to be a core business level goal that marketing is helping to serve.

    Again, most of the time customers revenue, sales, all that stuff.

    So this is why one of the first things that every marketer needs to do is to Part of the strategic planning is what’s called KPI mapping, key performance indicator mapping, that it reminded the definition of key performance indicators that if it doesn’t get you, it gets you fired or a bonus.

    It’s a KPI.

    And that’s the starting point to figure out what is the impact of marketing.

    So take the overall organization goal, the overall goal, probably revenue in some fashion.

    From there, what number or numbers directly feed revenue? Maybe it’s open deals.

    For example, in a b2b company, it might be shopping carts in an e commerce company, it might be admission requests or admission applications at a college right but there’s got to be something that leads to that, that revenue in a number and then from there, what number leads to that? And from there, what memories that new actually starting to build that story of that chain of evidence that leads to the business outcome you can About once you’ve done the basic exercise and you’ve gotten to a KPI that marketing is directly responsible for so let’s say in a higher education institution, for example, if applications are to applying to that college or university are the major goal, then what can marketing see of that? Does marketing actually see those applications? Does marketing have access to the data on the website for people downloading the applications? Maybe we’re filling them out online.

    If so, there’s your KPI.

    The next step is take all that other marketing data that you mentioned, paid media impressions, Facebook likes, Twitter followers, visitors to the website, email sent and all this stuff, and run what’s called a regression analysis to determine what is the mathematical relationship of all these metrics.

    To the KPI, right.

    So if we’re saying, I’m going to keep going with the higher education analogy, if we’re saying that applications, which really is like, sales, right? It’s a contract essentially, applications is your KPI.

    Then what of all those numbers has a mathematical relationship to applications? And if it turns out none of them, then guess what? We don’t need any of them.

    In our reporting, we just focus on the KPI.

    If, on the other hand, it turns out there is a mathematical relationship between say, Facebook engagements and likes, tweets and views on YouTube.

    And that relationship is statistically relevant.

    You now have a testing plan, right? Let’s go with YouTube views.

    If it’s a higher education institution, and there’s a views of the of the campus tour videos online, great Now what happens if you increase views? Do you see a corresponding increase in applications if you’ve, if you’ve established this correlation, you now have to prove the causation through testing.

    And then once you’ve done that, and you’ve proven that there is a relationship and the relationship is causal in nature, then fundamentally what you end up with is a KPI.

    And one, two, maybe three metrics that have the strongest relationship that you’ve proven to that and that’s the number that you tell in the story.

    That’s the number those are the numbers that go in your dashboard.

    Because you know that they they translate to your KPI and your KPI translates to business impact.

    Maybe as email subscribers, maybe it’s email, open rate.

    You’ve got all this data.

    But which of it matters.

    That’s how you build a story.

    Because a story is fundamentally nothing more than in many cases, sort of a beginning, middle and end recounting of what happened in a way that has a logical coherence to it.

    And it’s it was a very exciting story.

    But that’s a story.

    And so if you can sequence out those numbers and discard all the ones that don’t contribute to that story that are not relevant to that story, you will be able to have a, if not compelling, at least a a meaningful and useful story about the effectiveness of marketing, but requires you to gather all that data and do that analysis.

    That’s the way that I would approach any situation where you’ve got somebody who’s putting data on your desk, and you want to make sense of it.

    Do the KPI mapping, do the regression analysis, do this testing to prove it and then remove and went out everything that doesn’t belong.

    There is You don’t have the data, then you have to do your your, your best with what you’ve got, right? So if you only have certain data points, you can repeat the exercises as much as you can.

    If you don’t have control over the data itself, like if you don’t work in marketing, and you’re just curious, then you got to collaborate, got to work with a team that is responsible for the data and responsible for making the data happen in order to be able to, to really create a good story.

    So it’s a good question.

    It sounds easy.

    It’s It’s simple.

    It’s not easy.

    I think that’s an important point.

    It’s, it’s very simple to do.

    It’s not easy to do.

    It will take a lot of time, it will take a lot of effort.

    But once you do it, and you get good at it, you get really good at boiling down all the data.

    That’s only the stuff that matters, then focusing your efforts on that.

    And that’s the point of something like an exercise like this not only to be able to tell the story better, but then to focus your efforts in such a way You’re expanding your resources on things that really matter.

    So really good question, important question.

    I hope that this was helpful.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science for Traditional Sales?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science for Traditional Sales?

    Jackie asks, “How does all this fancy data science kung fu hubbub help us, we’re a traditional sales company that only makes phone sales cold calls?”

    Data science is a methodology that can be applied to any data you happen to have. In the case of cold calling, as long as you have data about past successful and unsuccessful calls, you can start to build a hypothesis and test it. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode Jackie asks, how does all this fancy data science kung fu hubbub help us? We’re a traditional sales company that only makes phone sales cold calls.

    Well, data science is a methodology.

    It is a methodology that can be applied to any data you have remember that data science is the extraction of meaningful insights from data using the scientific method.

    So, the question is, what is well, there’s a whole bunch of questions but first is what do you want to improve if you are selling via cold call? That is a very labor intensive practice.

    You have to spend time, even if you’ve got the dialing part automated, as a lot of time and effort picking up the phone or talking to people, right? People take time.

    And so you would like to be able to do more calls to be more productive, you would like to be able to have better outcomes right to be able to sell more stuff to get fewer people who say mean words to you and hang up hang really and more people who would be willing to give you you know, five or 10 or 30 minutes or however longer cold call process is to hear the pitch and possibly say yes.

    So you have questions you need answered, right you How do I make myself more efficient? How do I make myself more effective? data science is one of those tools you can use a methodology you can use to answer those questions.

    In the case of cold calling, I would hope that you have data from the past about what constitutes successful and unsuccessful cold calls.

    So you should Do you have a list of numbers you’ve called who those people were, if you’d be to see the characteristics of those people where they came from, we’ve got that number from typical demographic information, such as like a household income, gender, etc.

    for businesses, you’d be firma graphic information that you would have.

    And you would want to use data science techniques, particularly statistical techniques to understand what do the people who are successful cold calls in the past? What do they have in common? Right? Remember that you’re going to have a lot of engineer data as well.

    So you should have the date and the time that you made a call.

    And so from that you would extract the year the month the day of the week, the day of the month, the day of the quarter, the hour of the day, the minute of the day.

    How long each call was, how long did it take for someone to pick up? How many rings did it take? As you can see, just from a simple action, like picking up the phone and calling someone, there’s a lot of extra data you can engineer out of it.

    And all of those statistics are things that you would then feed to data science software to figure out what features or, you know, data points, either alone or in combination with each other, lead to a successful outcome.

    This is a technique, formal technique name with a specific technique name is called binary classification.

    You have an outcome, successful call on successful call.

    And then you have all the information that went into it.

    And you would run a binary classification algorithm on the data and figure out are there things that indicate The likelihood of a successful call and maybe it is hour of the day maybe it is household income, or a number of family members.

    on the business side, it might be annual revenue, yeah, could be domain name.

    Whatever the thing is, you then find your classifiers.

    Your have been called feature importance or how how important a particular data point is.

    And then you begin testing.

    You begin the scientific method if calling at lunchtime on Tuesdays is the thing that is most most likely recorded the album related to a successful outcome.

    Then eat lunch early on Tuesdays doubled the number of calls that you do during Tuesday at lunchtime.

    And you test you see how many successful calls or ideally you do it like a control tower.

    where maybe you and a co worker, do calling on Tuesdays or around lunchtime.

    And you make double the number of calls, your coworker makes the same number of calls.

    And if that they normally do and an ideal you’re doing double the number of calls they are during that Tuesday lunch, and maybe they take half an hour off for lunch.

    And then you compare your results after a few Tuesdays and say, Okay, now here’s our hypothesis, correct? Does calling on Tuesdays at lunchtime yield more successful results than not? And by having that control of doing things normally on a Tuesday, versus doing doubling the volume on a Tuesday at lunchtime? Do you see greater success rates? Do you see a statistically significant difference in success rate? That’s how you approach all these problems.

    Just because you’re doing what we’ve considered traditional or old school sales doesn’t mean that you don’t have data, or that you can’t use data science techniques to improve those process.

    is the same for, you know, postal direct mail postal direct mail can be very, very effective in specific certain circumstances in specific situations.

    If you know what data you have, you can be very efficient in your mail, instead of spending a million bucks to drop, you know, postcards to every single person on the planet, you have maybe 500 households that you know, or that you’re going to test for likelihood, a much greater improved responses.

    That’s how you use the stuff.

    That’s how you apply the scientific method to your data, develop testing criteria, and then see if you get causation.

    See if you get better results.

    That’s data science.

    That’s how you apply it to any of these situations.

    So, step out on the mindset, you’re, you’re doing something traditional, and that was all this fancy new technology and step into the mindset of the scientific method.

    What can can we prove or disprove about an important question to our business using our data? That’s where the change for you will come and make your make your business work no matter what it is make it better.

    Thanks for the question.

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  • What is Ethics in Marketing?

    What is Ethics in Marketing?

    We live in challenging times as marketers. Our effectiveness is now dependent on so many different strategies, tactics, methodologies, partners, tools, and audiences that being effective sometimes appears to conflict with being ethical. Every day, we see stories in the news, in our social feeds, in our blogs about marketers crossing the line, doing dishonorable or outright criminal things in pursuit of marketing results, from disingenuous product pitches to illegal data harvesting.

    How do we balance the results we must generate with creating results we are proud of?

    What is Ethics in Marketing?

    Most ethics discussions revolve around moral values of good and bad, right and wrong, which can vary significantly depending on your spiritual, religious, and cultural backgrounds. To reconcile these variations and find a definition of ethics which is most compatible with varying morals, we’ll look at a perspective called utilitarian ethics, a perspective suggested by philosophers such as John Stuart Mill.

    Utilitarianism defines ethical practices as: Those practices that result in the greatest good and/or the greatest happiness for all.

    Thus, adapting this definition, ethics is marketing is to market in ways which create the greatest good, the greatest happiness for all.

    Examples of Ethical Failures in Marketing

    Based on this definition, what would be some examples of marketing successes, but ethical failures?

    • Achieving our marketing goals by making outrageous claims that earn clicks or leads, but making the lives of our sales and customer service teams miserable.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by marketing and selling a product that causes more harm than good.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by marketing with false claims but damaging our relationships with the media, with the public, or with government officials.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by polluting or destroying the environment around us.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by using data to target vulnerable customers and amplifying negative emotions to compel them to buy our product.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by spreading or amplifying false information to create emotional reactions in our ads.

    All these examples highlight ways in which marketing achieves success, but at the expense of others.

    Ethics in Marketing

    When we use our utilitarian definition of ethics, clear, concise definition, applying ethics in marketing becomes straightforward.

    First and foremost, does our product or service result in greater harm than good? If so, then we will have an awfully hard time marketing it using ethical practices because its very existence is harmful. In a situation where our product or service is inherently harmful, we should probably find work elsewhere. This is something I struggled with for years when I was working in the student loan industry. Ultimately, my solution was to try to get people to do everything possible not to use our product, but then offer them the product as a last resort and educate them on the consequences of it. In the end, however, I ended up leaving the field to work somewhere else.

    Second, many marketing practices have little to no ethical impact. For example, much ado was made of the fact that a notable social media influencer didn’t write all of their own social media posts. Other social media practitioners decried that as inauthentic. Is the use of a ghostwriter ethical? If the posts were helpful, if the posts provided value, then the practice was ethical in the sense that it was doing the maximum good possible, even if the influencer wasn’t writing a single one. All that was required was that the authors of his posts were creating the maximum amount of good, as much or more than the influencer. If the influencer could only afford to write 2 posts a day that benefitted his audience, but his ghostwriter could write 10 of the same quality, then by definition he brought 5x more good to the world.

    Third, some marketing practices are clearly unethical. For example, if we lie about what our product does and the consumer ends up finding out the reality after purchase, we’re creating unhappiness. We’re doing harm. If we tell the truth about our product or service and set realistic expectations, our customers will be happier because we meet their expectations. Behaving in an ethical manner is the cornerstone of long-term profitability! Create more happiness rather than less, do more good rather than less, and it’s inevitable that people will want our product in their lives more.

    Finally, remember that the definition and ideal to strive for is to do the greatest good possible, which means minimizing or eliminating harm when and where possible. What if we’re confronted with a situation where a small amount of harm is generated, or significant harm to a tiny number of people, and a large amount of good results? Our goal is to explore ways to remove that harm, and to find a better way to achieve the same result with less harm done. What if marketing adopted the Hippocratic oath – first, do no harm? How would your marketing change?

    If we set our goals to require that we create the maximum amount of good possible, there’s a strong chance that we’ll create innovative new ways of doing the same old things. That eventually leads to transformation of our products, services, practices, and company, a transformation that we will be proud of, proud to market as loudly as possible to the world. Do enough good, create enough happiness, and the world will want us to win.

    Disclosure: this post was written in 2012 and has been updated to remain relevant.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Ethical Use of AI in Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Ethical Use of AI in Marketing?

    Paul asks, “What can marketers do to ensure the ethical use of AI in their marketing?”

    Ethics isn’t something machines understand. They’re still fundamentally calculators at their core, no matter how sophisticated the AI, and a calculator is nonmoral, non-ethical. They’re tools, so the burden of ethics is on the users of the tools. If your company behaves unethically with data and systems now, it will do so with AI, and the most ethical thing you can do is steer that company away from AI entirely, or avoid working there.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, What can market is due to ensure the ethical use of AI in their marketing? That’s a big question.

    We should probably start by defining what we mean by ethics, because ethics itself is a massive field of philosophy, and has so many branches and so many interpretations.

    The interpretation that I fall back on most is what you would call either consequentialism or utilitarian ethics.

    And what those are, is fundamentally consequentialism is trying to do things that result in the fewest negative consequences for you and the largest number of positive consequences for you.

    utilitarianism is sort of the idea that you tried to do the maximum amount of good points Or the maximum amount of benefit for others, the health of others, the happiness of others, the welfare of others, sort of a, you know, to, quote the incredibly cliche business term, a win win situation, how can you make decisions that maximize the benefit to the maximum number of people.

    And that’s relevant to AI because when we think about how we do marketing, very often we are trying to maximize the benefit of one party, only our company, right? We want to keep our jobs we want to get a bonus, we will not hit our numbers.

    And so we make decisions that are a little short sighted we make decisions that are for the benefit of our company.

    And we don’t take the larger view of how can we benefit everyone that how can we benefit everyone perspective is actually what we would call customer centric marketing, right? How can we create benefit for our customers with the assumption that if we do good for others, Good has returned to us in the form of profits and revenues and such.

    So let’s start with that definition.

    So how can we ensure that AI is being used in a way that maximizes good? ethics and morals and nothing’s machines understand machines have no ethics, they have no morals, they are non moral devices, right? Fundamentally, an AI is still a calculator at its core, right? It’s still just doing mathematics.

    No matter how sophisticated no matter how fancy no matter how complex it is, it’s still a calculator.

    And a calculator is a tool.

    A tool has no ethics, a tool has no morals.

    It’s not that it’s immoral that it is inherently bad.

    It’s just a tool if it if it sits there on the ground.

    With no user, it does nothing right.

    You could even say the same thing for things that we typically ascribe to negatives or positive It is write a firearm.

    You know, some people will ascribe virtues and vices to a gun.

    No, it’s on the ground.

    It does nothing, right? The user is the person who behaves with ethics, we’re using that tool and AI is the same.

    Because the tool the burden of ethics is on the users of the tools.

    Which means that if we the users are unethical or immoral or self centered, then we’re going to use those tools to do things that are unethical.

    So the simplest way to answer Paul’s question is, if your company, if you if your manager behave unethically today, with the data and the systems and the software that you have now, you’re going to do it with AI, right, you’re going to take another tool and you In the same way that use your existing tools, if you have a, you know a kid, and and your kid hits their sibling with a stuffed animal and you give the kid a book, they’re probably going to hit the the sibling of the book, right? That pattern of behavior who we are as humans, governance, what’s likely to happen with any given tool? So, how do you ensure the ethical use of AI and marketing and you should ensure the ethical use of your marketing? And if you want to avoid sticky situations that border on spirituality and religion, just go with utilitarian ethics? Are we doing the most good? possible? Are we doing the least harm possible? are we are we making the world a better or worse place? And to the extent that you can give more value than you get? You will probably do okay, so if you’re thinking like, how can I Use targeting and segmentation, you know, deep learning networks to identify customers.

    Well, that’s a method that’s a tactic.

    And it’s neither good or bad.

    But if your product sucks, and your services terrible, and your customers hate, but and they have no other choice, then don’t worry about a I fix your core problems.

    If you have a manager, a corporate culture, stakeholders that behave on ethically, the most ethical thing you can do is steer that company away from AI.

    You know, if you have a person who is, is violent, don’t give them bigger weapons, and take their weapons away from them and give them like, I don’t know, soft foam blocks to play with.

    So when you have a company that already behaves on ethically don’t pursue AI even if you want to personally for your own career growth and and things, do that on your free time do that outside of work.

    But don’t give more dangerous things to people who are already dangerous.

    And consider not working there.

    If you are the kind of person who wants to grow your career and you want to, to also do good in the world, and you’re working for a company that doesn’t do good in the world.

    It might be time for a change, it might be time to give some thought to where else could you apply your talents where they would be appreciated, you would be compensated appropriately because again, part of utilitarianism is doing good for yourself too.

    It’s just doing good for yourself and everyone else.

    And find a place a company that can behave more ethically that can can do more good for the world can invoke fewer negative consequences for its actions.

    But I can’t reiterate enough at the end of the day.

    AI is just math, right and we can use mathematics for good For evil, we can do good things, you can do horrific things to other humans.

    So make sure that the core of the heart and the soul of your company is in good shape before you start introducing advanced technologies.

    That’s a big question.

    We see ethical lapses or just companies that are unethical.

    Facebook comes to mind is was one of the biggest examples of a company where ethics are secondary to that sort of self centered utilitarianism.

    And we could talk for hours about the newsfeed algorithm but for now, focus on the ethics of your company, determine whether it is appropriate for the company to be pursuing AI to be using tools that can scale good or bad and then make a decision you know, should we pursue this or should we not based on the ethics of the company overall.

    Good question.

    Tough question.

    Big, big question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Google SEO Algorithm Change?

    You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Google SEO Algorithm Change?

    Carolyn asks, “A major update to Google’s core algorithm just came out and our site is down 30% for organic traffic overnight. How do you deal with situations like this?”

    Algorithm updates happen all the time, though Google does deploy large ones a few times a year. If there’s any advanced warning, plan campaigns on channels other than search to temporarily drive different traffic if you’re anticipating a problem, especially on paid search.

    Monitor forums like SE Roundtable and Black Hat World to see what other SEO professionals are saying about the changes and what they have in common.

    If your business permits, let the dust settle for a few days afterwards and a consensus form among the community about what the change might have impacted most, then work to remediate it if possible.

    And play the long game – continue building great content to answer search queries with expertise and authority.

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    In today’s episode, Carolyn asks a major update to Google’s core algorithm just came out and our site is down 30% for organic traffic overnight.

    How do you deal with situations like this? So Google’s algorithm updates happen all the time, because of the nature of the fact that it’s a deep learning model.

    There are constant iterations.

    That said, Google does push larger software updates a couple of times per year.

    I think about once a quarter give or take, and as many folks have noted, this has been recorded on January 15.

    A major update did just come out on January 13 2020.

    And, as with any major update their major winners their major losers, everybody else sees things moving up and down to varying degrees.

    The question about how to deal with these algorithm changes depends on how much advance notice we have if Google says on its various webmaster blogs on its twitter feed on its YouTube channels, hey, we’re pushing out an update.

    And they say here will be live in the next you know, 72 hours that gives you a good sense of, of when things are going to change.

    Sometimes depending on the update, they may give even more advanced notice, but certainly you want to be monitoring their social media channels for when they say something’s going to be coming out.

    Now, if you get any advanced warnings, you want to do fit for basic things.

    Number one, if you do have advanced warnings, plan, additional marketing campaigns on channels other than organic search to temporarily drive different traffic to your website.

    So if you anticipate a problem if folks are buzzing about potential problems that they’re seeing in these various forms, you want to have something on deck.

    Maybe it’s send out next year.

    Email, maybe it’s run some paid search ads to bolster your keywords that you want to be found for while the algorithm change rolls out, whatever you whatever the case is, have something on deck have something in reserve that you can throw out there so that you can offset any potential loss of traffic at least temporarily.

    Second, you want to monitor a lot of the web SEO forums that are out there, se Roundtable, blackhat world Search Engine Journal all these different blogs that cover the search engine space, the SEO space, pay attention to them, monitor them and see what other SEO professionals are saying about the changes and what they have in common typically, like Barry Schwartz over at Search Engine Journal will publish a roundup of like these are the top 20 winners the top 22 losers of the most recent algorithm update and look for it look what’s in there.

    What do they have in common are they The rich snippet sites are they review sites on a certain industry that will give you a sense of what the change is, and then help you start formulating a plan.

    If your business permits, if you’re not solely relying on organic search or you know, like 80% of your traffic comes from organic search, then you want to ideally let the dust settle for a few days afterwards and let a consensus form among the SEO community about what the change might have been and what it impacted most.

    So folks identify it’s clearly about Rich Snippets or it’s clearly about JSON LD or it’s clearly about inbound links from from malware sites, whatever the thing is, the community will take a few days to let the dust settle, see and tabulate the winners and the losers and then come up with responses to like, hey, this looks like these things changed.

    So you want to make sure that You have enough flexibility and enough diversity in your in your traffic on your website that a major SEO hit at an algorithm change doesn’t hit your business too hard.

    I remember back in the day when I worked at a financial services company 90% of one of our main websites, traffic came from organic search.

    And when there was an algorithm change, we dropped from position one, position three and lost 70% of our revenue overnight.

    That obviously, was a major strategic problem and kicked off a process of diversifying to different channels like business investing, right like financial investing, you want to diversify where you get your traffic from you wants from email from social for paid search, organic search for referral traffic, so that a major hit in one area does not completely take down your business.

    So if you are feeling the effects of this, then you want to make that part of your plan.

    How do you diversify If your traffic sources get traffic coming in from more and different places.

    And finally, this stuff makes for great news.

    It’s a lot of excitement.

    It can be a lot of stress.

    But remember that the ultimate direction Google is marching with all of its search updates is to deliver better quality results based on expertise, authority and trust, and relevance, freshness and diversity to its users, which means that ultimately, our big goal has not changed, which is right content.

    That’s awesome.

    That answers people’s questions and provides real value to them.

    So that if search engines went away tomorrow, and all people had were links to our sites, they would still be able to find and find value in what it is that we have to offer.

    So that’s the really the last word is keep continue.

    To build great content, to answer search queries with expertise and authority, and if you took a hit this time around to what you can but keep building great content so that you eventually get to that endpoint of ranking well, when an algorithm update favors you.

    So those are the four major things to do.

    SEO is such an interesting marketing channel because it is, in some cases, something for nothing.

    And it’s one of the few channels left whether that is a viable strategy somewhat but you are at the mercy of a third party and you’re at the mercy of a third parties machines.

    And nobody including Google has any idea what the full model means.

    Because it literally is hundreds of different search ranking factors put together in a in a deep learning model, which is not something you can disassembled able clue This is the most important thing.

    That’s not how those models work.

    So Do your best with what you can mitigate as possible and, and be prepared to spend some money.

    If your business relies on search, organic or paid and and you take a hit like this, be prepared to spend some money to make up ground until things work in your favor again.

    So that’s sort of the last word there.

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