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  • You Ask, I Answer: Small Business Social Media Posting

    You Ask, I Answer_ Small Business Social Media Posting

    Zain asks, “How is a small business supposed to post 5 or more times a day? How do you even come up with that much content?”

    The secret to posting a lot without diminishing value is to share other people’s stuff often. I go by the 80/20 rule – 80% of what you share should be non-competitive content that helps your audience. In the video, I detail a system linking:

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    In today’s episode Zane asks, How is a small business opposed to post five or more times a day I read an article on Inc. com that the optimal time for the multiple amount of times to post on Facebook is five times a day. How does a small business or solo printer even come up with that much content? Well, okay, so this is a really, really good question because it’s a couple of different questions packed into one first,

    the idea that there is a an optimal number of things to do on social media, whether it’s posts, whether it’s times of day and things is something of a something of an illusion.

    The reality is your business and your audience are different from every other business. There is how you collect your audience.

    So who your audience is, is going to be different. So

    should you immediately just start with whatever numbers in in today’s news, maybe if you’re just getting started out, there’s no harm in testing out the best practices. Because best practices really are bottled minimum competence is kind of the idea. They’ll get you started. And then from there, you customize, it gives you a place to start. It’s like a recipe. You start with the recipe and then once you’ve mastered the basics of the recipe, then you go on to adapt to improve it and make it your own. So

    there I would suggest if you’re going to do this go this route. You’ll want to to start testing out frequency and measure things like engagement and traffic on the posts that are yours to see. Is there actually an optimal time or an optimal number of posts for your audience now to the question about where do you get that much content generally speaking

    You should be following the 8020 rule, which is for every one post that you post, that’s your own content, like my blog, or the Trust Insights blog.

    The other four posts should be third party content that’s non competitive that you give out to

    other articles and things like that.

    Where’d you get that much content? Well, it comes over time. So initially, when you’re just starting out on your own content, you should be doing stuff like video video that you put into YouTube that you can then put onto a blog, have it transcribed, and now you’ve got frequent blog content. That’s what I do every single day because I don’t have time to make all these different pieces of content. But if I record one video, I can then go and turn it into a bunch of different pieces of content. That’s the kind of a separate question second,

    in order to get

    lots of other content you need to be pulling from the existing reading and

    Research you’re already doing so I use a combination of apps one is called fiddly. It’s called pocket I will go through. I subscribed to a good Julian and a half different blogs in fiddly. I go through air tag the ones that I want to read. And then I use a service called If This Then That to pass them to pocket the app. And then pocket does a nice job of collecting them, rendering them things like that. And then I can

    mark certain ones like, yep, that was a really good one, or Okay, that was okay. And then from there, you can actually export all of the links. If you go into pocket settings, you can export an HTML file with all your links, and that will let you be able to and to take those URLs and right social media posts about them. You could just use the article title if if you don’t have a lot of time. That’s typically what I do. You can also if you want to, you know, customize the messaging around my my friend and colleague Scott. Monty does that where he writes a very elaborate summary of each link

    So depends on how much time you have and how much you’re willing to do customization. But that’s how you do it. You read you research and then you take that information from all these different publications and you share their stuff. Remember, you’re not copying and pasting their actual content you’re sharing links to it. And so you can do that as much as you want.

    where people get stuck is that they typically don’t read enough and they don’t subscribe to enough to have a large body of content you’re probably going to want to start off with 100 hundred and 50 blogs

    in feed Lee and even in pocket they will be recommendation engines things that you can use that will allow you to say like I want to I want blogs about marketing and of course they’ll bring up

    a couple of dozen marketing blogs and then you would type in I want blogs with social media marketing, email marketing, business strategy,

    you know, start picking out topics in Philly, and you’ll be able to

    To subscribe to them and then give it a little while to pull the ill. Typically when you subscribe to blog, it’ll pull the first 10 posts the most 1010 most recent posts for that blog. Now you’ve got your your starting point for content and you can go through and again

    my workflow is feely to if this than that to pocket and that’s mostly automated so that I can then do that HTML export and get going.

    That’s how you do this. That’s how you create that much content to share on social media. And then the last piece is you need a scheduler, you need a scheduling tool that allows you to take I like I’m currently using and evaluating Agra pulse. I’ve been using it for a while now. And I like that you can just upload a spreadsheet to it. So

    say you get that list of links from

    from pocket, you put that into a spreadsheet, and then you can upload that into a service like agriculture.

    buffer does this you, Hootsuite does this to

    you upload a CSV file which is a type of spreadsheet export from Excel to CSV and then you upload it in you decide what you’re posting schedule or times are going to be you define them and then it will auto fill your all your social content for as long as that file is that way you can write and build an entire week’s worth of social media content all at once the process for me because that some of these pieces I’ve written my own custom code to automate so the process for me to build my own social media content for a week, the frame the framework content, not engagement, not replies, not conversations, but just the posting of stuff now takes about

    two to three minutes a week to fill out, you know, 180 hundred 90 posts

    across these networks and then have it just dump it into Agra.

    pulse and have it and have it go out that’s

    that’s how long that’s where you want to get to you want to get to your framework content as quickly as possible and get it get it done and then that way you have more time for engagement and conversation so great question it’s a very common question and there are ways to do it that don’t require custom code like I said, you just use pocket if this than that and feed Lee as your as your glue. And then as you grow as your business grows, you can level that up to make it more automated, more customized, things like that.

    Give it a shot, see how it works for you. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel into the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Evaluating Content Marketing Management Software

    You Ask, I Answer_ Evaluating Content Marketing Management Software

    Peter asks, “What do you recommend for content marketing management software, especially for a B2B company?”

    Great question, and a very common one. Content marketing management needs to fulfill one or more of the following functions:

    • Creation / management of creation
    • Curation and amplification
    • Scheduling
    • Workflows and approvals
    • IAM / ACL
    • Publishing
    • Monitoring
    • Analytics

    Each of these features has a number of point solutions that will run you 10 –50 per month; when combined, it’s easy to see how the price tag for software just goes up and up.

    What I use:

    • I create my own content mostly using SEO tools – check out SEMrush as one of many
    • I wrote my own curation tools because I was unhappy with what was on the market, but it’s powered by Feedly and Pocket
    • I’ve used a number of tools for scheduling but really like Agorapulse now, especially since they finally added LinkedIn
    • Most tools offer an enterprise edition for both workflows and IAM; software like Workfront does this well if you need heavy duty workflows and IAM
    • Buffer, Hootsuite, and Agorapulse are great choices for publishing and basic monitoring, especially in bulk
    • For analytics, Google Analytics is the gold standard for owned media content; most software provides some activity-based monitoring

    Disclosure: some links are affiliate marketing links for which my company, Trust Insights, earns a small commission if you end up buying something.

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    In today’s episode, Peter asks, What do you recommend for content marketing management software, especially for a b2b company? Oh, great question. A very common question. And

    there’s a lot to unpack when it comes to content marketing management, because there’s so many different aspects of content marketing. So your typical software needs to check the box on at least one of Oh, I don’t know, eight or nine different functions. So let’s go down the list of those functions. You need to have the creation of content and the management of creation of that content. So asset management and things like that you need curation, an amplification. So I the identification of third party content that you want to amplify. So there’s an identification part and then there’s the actual curation and gathering part there is scheduling of content calendaring.

    And also scheduling and calendaring of internal work for it gets published. So there’s there could be a couple of layers of scheduling. And there, there are workflows and approvals, which is an important part, especially when you’re working with a third party organization. So if you have an agency, for example, now you’re going to need to have workflows and approvals. There is Google. I am an ACL. So identity access management and access control lists the ability to provide different granular levels of security to different parts of the application, depending on who’s doing what, again, really important when you’re working with subcontractors, agencies, there is the actual publishing and distribution of content. So what platforms that goes out on whether it’s a blog, whether it is social media, whether it is any kind of distribution network, there is, of course, the monitoring of the content that you create and monitoring in general and there is analytics the measurement of stuff now

    Here’s a way to think about this that will help you figure out what you can do. Each of these areas has individual point solutions, single single serving solutions that run anywhere from 10 to 15, maybe 10 to 100 bucks a month for each of these individual bullet points when you start adding them together, of course, that has added a pricing. So if you aren’t scheduling and workflows, you’re going to pay much more for that than just a scheduling tool by itself. If you want the entire laundry list in one package, now you’re talking about an enterprise tool, enterprise tools come with the enterprise pricing.

    You could be paying

    thousand $2,000 a month for some of the top line software that does it all. But there’s a reason why it does it all. It’s because you pay for it. So what do I personally do both for myself and for Trust Insights I we use a bunch of point solutions that are knitted together with human elbow grease.

    For the creation of content and figuring out what to create content about, I use SEO tools for that, because SEO tells you what’s going to happen when I recommend you this will link in the show notes here is is sem rush, but you know, use the SEO tool that you are most comfortable with

    for content curation amplification. I wrote my own software because I wasn’t happy with what was on the market. It wasn’t doing what I wanted to do,

    but it’s based on feed Lee and pocket to apps that have free additions. And so it’s a lot of reading and tagging things like save this for later and stuff and then being able to export the data and then load it into your social media scheduler for scheduling itself. I’ve used a number of different tools over the years so I’m trying out I’ve been trying to Agra pulse

    and I’m actually really happy with it because it does LinkedIn really well and a lot of tools do LinkedIn.

    pretty poorly. And again for b2b marketing that’s really important. It does

    Instagram Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn Google Plus for like the for people who still use that

    but it has it has monitoring and publication built in which is kind of nice

    for workflows and identity access management

    most that’s going to be built in individual software co schedule I know does a lot of that and and does it really well. Work front does that as well.

    Those are going to be obviously higher priced software because they do a lot of and they need to do a lot of integration into things like Single Sign On and stuff for publishing and basic monitoring. Again, buffer Hootsuite, Agra pulse all great choices I’ve used all of them.

    Hootsuite is my least favorite just because I don’t like their interface. But aggro pulse and buffer are ones that are used and they have good monitoring for seeing like what’s happening with

    The content you publish to the platform now for analytics to measure your content,

    all these tools do activity based monitoring. So you publish a post and it will tell you so what’s happened with that post that’s not helpful.

    The gold standard for content marketing analytics is Google Analytics because a it’s free, but be because it’s connected to all of your goals and gets connected to all of your revenue, your ecommerce, if you’ve got e commerce going on, that tells you the actual impact of your content of your social and everything. So there is

    really no alternative then like that web analytics layer for the performance of your content marketing in terms of the impact that actually delivers so

    if you wanted to replace a giant system of spreadsheets, I would look at Agra pulse I would look at

    I would look at and co schedule

    Again, that’s going to be a little on the expensive side. If you if you have a large team, you should look at work front.

    But honestly, there’s nothing wrong with a pile of spreadsheets. If work is getting done. If work is not getting done and communication is breaking down, then yes, look for additional software. But the premise behind a lot of these enterprise packages is that

    things are breaking down process wise, if you have great process in place the software it’s much easier to make do with you know, point solutions. So one of the things like at Trust Insights our CEO is

    so focused on process and and so good at process that we can plug any number of tools together as long as they they adhere to the process as opposed to the way that most people do it, which is where they they buy the tool and they hope the tool fixes the process but because process is driven largely by people

    software can only do so much. If you fix the people first, then the software is is easier. And if you have great process, you can reduce your costs. Because you can use point solutions for a lot of stuff

    navigated by the process you have in place. So something to think about on that front is of people process and platform, which is where’s the most broken thing? And if it’s not the software,

    then then buying or different software is probably not going to fix that. So something to think about. Great question, like I said, a very common question and very popular question. It’s going to require a lot of experimentation. And again, I’ve got links in the show notes. So if you look in the comment below here, or I’m on the blog post for this, you can click through to a lot of these things. A couple of them are affiliate programs. So full disclosure that

    we’re interested in science earns a very small commission if you do eventually buy something through those links, but as always, please subscribe.

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  • #WinWithAI: The Foundation of AI is Great Data

    #WinWithAI_ The Foundation of AI is Great Data

    In today’s episode, we review the 4 main challenges facing enterprises with data:

    • Volume
    • Veracity
    • Variety
    • Velocity

    AI is built on data; poor data leads to poor machine models, which leads to poor outcomes. What’s the solution? The Trust Insights 6C Framework for Data is what every company must implement to prepare for AI:

    • Clean
    • Complete
    • Comprehensive
    • Chosen
    • Credible
    • Calculable

    Watch the video for full details and explanation.

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    In today’s episode as part of the wind with AI series that I’m doing with IBM for the win with AI summit disclosure, I am paid compensated for participation. And today’s question is how can businesses use data today to develop a winning strategy for AI over the next five years? Well,

    no one has any has a Foggiest clue what AI is going to look like in five years? Anyone who says they do is probably smoking the good stuff. Now you can say what’s been developed today and how will it be deployed over the next five years? Because that’s a valid question today. All these techniques in deep learning and reinforcement learning and things like Watson studio, for example. These are technologies that are available in market now and it is going to take companies one to 510 years to deploy them in market.

    But where the technology is going, nobody has any idea. So let’s tackle this from the perspective of what do companies need to do with their data today, in order to be able to make use of these technologies and eventually roll this out over the next five years.

    Data is the foundation of AI. Unlike traditional software, ai begins with data. So in traditional software, we write the code, you know, it’s a word processor, or whatever, we have the application on that phone or on our laptop, and, and and the software is made. And then we use the software and it spits out data, right? You have a word processing software, you type a letter and and the data is what comes out of it or the spreadsheet or the slide presentation or the video that’s the data software begets data in traditional software in AI data begets the software so we take data, a lot of it enormous quantities of it, and we give it to machines and they learn from it and then create

    Create models and outcomes. And so that’s what’s so different about AI is that instead of explicitly writing the code for a prediction or whatever the software learns from the data, we feed it, which means that the data we give machines has to be impeccable. It has to be unimpeachable or as close to as we can get now, there are four main problems with data today. IBM calls these the four V’s the veracity, volume, velocity and variety veracity is the truthfulness of the data. how clean is the data if the data is has questionable issues or is missing pieces, you’re not gonna be able to make good predictions. You’re not gonna be able to train machines on volume is a problem that most companies have. They have too much data and the velocity the speed at which the data arrives every day is also another problem. And finally, the variety of data with unstructured data, video images, audio lots of texts.

    Speech applications, IoT, you name it, all these different things are creating a variety of problem. So how do we solve for these problems? We use what at Trust Insights we call the six see framework of useful data. Data needs six characteristics in order to be useful, especially for machine learning and artificial intelligence. And those are the data I vaults bring up the framework here. There you go.

    data needs to be clean. So it has to be prepared well, and free of errors. And you can use machine learning to solve some of that. But there are limits after which you start running at the validity error. So yeah, the data should be as clean as possible to start with. So if a company does not have clean data, now be the time to start that the data has to be complete without missing chunks.

    Again, there are ways to solve for missing data with machine learning, particularly with a technique called amputation, but it’s not as good as having the actual data so

    You’ve got missing chunks of data you have you’re gonna have a trouble working with AI data has to be comprehensive, meaning it must cover the questions being asked of it. So if our data if we want to know what is what causes particular type of cancer, for example, and we don’t have all the oncology data, we only have an hour subset. We don’t have like blood tests, we lack other environmental variables, we’re not going to come up with the right answer, we’re going to come up with at best a partial answer, and at worst, a very misleading answer. So data has to be comprehensive data has to be chosen well with few irrelevant or confusing variables. And so this is a lot of selection. And this is where a data scientist spend a good chunk of their time. And these first these six steps take up a data scientist Tyler 80% of their time just to just to get the data in working condition. Choosing variables requires things like principal component analysis and

    reduction of dimensions dimension.

    ality reduction in order to figure out okay out of the 400 variables we have which ones actually matter

    and data has to be credible which means it must be collected in a valid way

    this is an area where machine learning is not much help because this deals with things like biases in our data how biased is our data you may be using machine learning to do a natural language processing on social media data, let’s say on tweets.

    But if you don’t understand that Twitter itself is a has a bias in the network that there are demographics at play that there are socio economic factors at play that give a very specific

    weight towards certain opinions.

    You don’t know that unless you have experience with understanding bias. And so this is a critical part of artificial intelligence and and companies working with data. You’ve got to know that your data is credible. You’ve got to know how it was collected. You’ve got to know the bias.

    seas of the collection process. Imagine at a corporation, you send out a survey to customers and say, you know, how awesome was your scores or customer service? Well, that question by very definition is leading he’s a leading question instead of asking how was your customer service, right? So the credibility of collection is one of those important factors in building good data, especially for AI. And finally, date of all did has to be calculable. This is less of a problem for AI than it is for humans. Humans are really bad at dealing with massive data sets, machines are much better at it. But a machine still has to be able to work with the data, it still has to be compatible in a, you know, whatever formats are needed. So you may have a bunch of structured data and then a whole bunch of unstructured data. You’ve got to be able to have machine learning processes that that transform the unstructured data into something structured in order to be able to do things like prediction. So this framework

    Work, the 60 framework is the foundation for what companies need to do to prepare for AI. If you don’t have data that are has been through this process, and you’ve addressed all six of these issues, all six of these features, then your AI efforts at best, you’re going to be limited and at worst are going to be highly misleading. So we need to fix this first within your company. Now, if you’d also so this is the data portion data comes from people process and platform, they all the good. The good old Lovett framework

    if you don’t have people who are committed to a great data, if you don’t have processes that enable the 60s and you don’t have technology that allows you to to store it, transform it, work with it, then AI is just not for you a special especially the people hard if you have people who are committed to opposing the use of data AI is definitely not going to work for you and if you think about it

    Who might that be? Well, there are folks who work at some companies who don’t really want to light shine on their work, because their work may not be very good, or their work may have ethical issues and things like that. So navigating great data and setting the stage for AI requires more than just technology requires great, a great platform. And obviously the Watson studio ecosystem is a great platform for that. But it also requires great processes internally, and a commitment from the people who work at the company to the AI initiatives. So that’s the very long answer to the question. It’s a great question about how to prepare for AI what we need to do with our data. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Create High-Performing Video Marketing

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Create High-Performing Video Marketing

    Dee asks, “How can I create videos people will watch and engage with?”

    One of the simplest tricks and hacks for high performing video marketing is to convert already high performing content to video. What tools would you use?

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    In today’s episode D asks, How can I create videos people will watch and engage with? This is a very common question. It is a very important question. Because video takes more time to create than simply just typing a few words out into a document. One of the simplest tricks and hacks for high performing video is to use or convert content that’s already high performing to video format, instead of creating something new from whole cloth all the time, maybe use the 8020 rule take 80% of video should be converting stuff that you know your audience already wants. And 20% new stuff, new experimental things and such. So what would you use? How would you go about doing this? Well, there’s three data sources that would strongly recommend. One is your web analytics to his social media analytics. And three is Seo to. So let’s look at an example of this with the for web analytics. First, I’m in my Google Analytics. Here I am in the left hand side under behavior, I’m going to choose all pages. And I want to choose a time frame that is sufficiently large enough to get a sense of what people care about. So I chose you to date here,

    six months is a good window. And you can see here, these are all the posts that are doing well. And you can see there’s one, this consulting billing rate on just keeps getting coming up over and over again. So one of the things I should probably do is take this blog post, which is a mostly text post with a little bit of interactivity and turn it into a video, I should obviously keep the existing blog post, but essentially read it out loud on video, and then hand it to this post to make sure that it is seen to leverage its or its popularity. Now, one thing you can do, it’s kind of a nice power hack is to change the dates, let’s go back about a year and a half, two years now and look at older content, look at stuff that that was much, much older way back when. And for those posts where it’s relevant to do so like business core competency, ethics and marketing and stuff. Those are the posts that we didn’t see them in the previous screen. But they did well in the past, they are ideal candidates for being refreshed. And there’s no better way to refresh that then to use video as a way to jumpstart those posts and bring them back to life. So I could create a video for that added to the post, then change the post date, update the text as needed. And now I’ve got a brand new post that we know as popular based on years past and can make it work harder for us. So that’s web analytics. Now, let’s take a look at the second place we can look at, which is social media data. I’m going to use IBM Watson Analytics for social media. Here, I’m using the topic of b2b marketing. I’ve program this in and asked Watson to essentially go find all of the content out there in

    forum posts, blogs, videos, social posts, about about b2b marketing, and then I categorize them by sort of the topics that want to break down, what are the things that people are talking about most? Well, Funny enough, it turns out email marketing is part is such a huge part of b2b marketing. So here are some of the top posts in this in these categories. Now, you should absolutely not just rip some rip off somebody else’s content. But you can take the ideas, the general concepts and share your own point of view. So here is one how much is email marketing automation software costs, you can do pricing plans, comparison of products, top 10 most popular stores most powerful traffic generation techniques, Evers versus results, all of these, you can see that these are, these are all about the topic of email marketing. So do I have perspectives of my own on any of these topics, uses an email marketing signatures and email marketing, of course, have topic of perspectives that I could create that I know these are the popular topics, these are the popular concepts, but convert them into video content by creating my own point of view. So I would, I know can do research broadly about what people care about, but make a video of it. And then the third year, of course, is Seo data, we can look at content that’s high ranking. And again, don’t rip off other people’s work, but look at the concepts and provide points of view. So this one I took social media marketing, what are some social media marketing campaigns, five bad habits that will tank your social media marketing a five ways a Twitter purge, six ways you can use yoga principles, and so on and so forth, there are again, so many perspectives and points of view that we could have that would inform a great video that someone else has already done the research and the work of identifying the broad concepts. Now, what is our point of view in terms of creating video content about these things. So five bad habits, little tank, your social media marketing, or their bad habits that I see social media marketers doing that are disrupting their marketing. Of course,

    the use of of copy bots is a really good example, don’t use copy. But it’s it will go very badly. If you’re not familiar, copy bot is simply a piece of automated software that just blatantly copy somebody else’s feed, right. So it copies Instagram feed or a Twitter feed, don’t use them the terrible

    and they’re also a copyright violation on which expose you to all sorts of legal issues. But

    anyone who’s been in the field for more than six months has some sense of what works and what doesn’t in social media marketing. And so by looking at these general topics, like bad habits, social media marketers, you can create content that you know, people will engage with, because it’s already high performing someone else has already has a their point of view, we want to create our point of view. So

    those the three data sources of those three, I would start with your web analytics, unless you have no content at all, you have no blog, if you get your your website is literally just a brochure, if you have a blog, then you want to start with web analytics, because it is your content, it is the most unique to you. And it already contains your points of view, and it is your intellectual property. So you have absolutely no issues whatsoever, you know, just literally reading the your previous content out loud social media marketing data is where I would say, social media and SEO data or a blend, they should be, you know, wait them equally do one from do one video from one source, do another video from another source, go back and forth and see which is more relevant to your audience of those two, I would lean a little bit more heavily on search data only because people type things into Google, they wouldn’t say out loud.

    And this is this is an important thing to think about is is what will people type into Google that they might be embarrassed to say in a conversation, if you are, say, a b2b marketing like a I don’t know what lead scoring is, probably don’t want to admit that particularly on like a professional network like LinkedIn. But you absolutely type in what is the lead scoring into Google into Google or Bing search engine of your choice. So

    but still use both to get a sense of the tone and tenor and the flavor of conversation around these topics, and then create videos around those topics. So that’s the answer to how do you create videos that people will watch and engage with create stuff that people want? As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and newsletter. I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Standardize Metrics and Measurement

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Standardize Metrics and Measurement

    Kevin asks, “How do we standardize metrics and measurement, especially when different parts of the company do things differently?”

    Great and very common question. The answer is, unsurprisingly, a framework:

    • Goal alignment
    • Exploratory data analysis
    • Model creation
    • Model validation
    • Model deployment
    • Adoption, training, and compliance
    • Measurement of compliance
    • Refinement and improvement

    If this sounds familiar, this is also the process for bringing machine learning models to fruition as well.

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    In today’s episode, Kevin asks, How do we standardized metrics and measurement across the organization special in different parts of the company do things differently? different business units have their own style of doing stuff? It’s a great and very common question, especially in larger companies and enterprises. The answer to

    this question is not surprising. It’s going to be a framework, it’s going to be a model for building a model, kind of a meta model, if you will. So let’s

    look at this on fact, to bring this up here.

    This is the process for putting together a an enterprise analytics system or standardization or framework or whatever you want to call it. It should look familiar, by the way, because this is also the model that we use for things like machine learning, and for data systems, and bi and all the technology that we want to deploy in a way that max Mises adoption and compliance.

    So let’s go through this for the first part is goal alignment, what goals are we trying to align our system with?

    What are the business goals that everything has to roll back up to, if we don’t have that clearly defined and written out, nothing’s going to work here, because everyone’s going to keep trying to address their own specific goals, instead of the big picture goals, we need to make sure that we have those goals documented, and that we have the process for the obtain them documented, and frankly, the governance who’s in charge of these different goals, having that document to because if you don’t have those stakeholders clearly mapped out, you’re going to create something that nobody’s gonna want. So that is super important. That’s why this comes first. Second, is exploratory data analysis, given that we understand the goals, what are all the systems that feed into those goals, there’s a little worksheet that I typically use that has, you know, the KPIs, people normally measure with the business goals, and you try and connect the dots to see how things get put together. But exploratory data analysis is super important. It requires statistics and data analytics tools, it may require some machine learning, it may not, but it requires you to take all the, the the KPIs and metrics that you’ve got, and essentially do mass statistical analysis to figure out what of all this data that we collect actually has a mathematical relationship with the outcomes we care about. So very, very important. The third step is creating that framework, once you have the math proven out, and you create a framework and say, Okay, these are the things that are important. So on the marketing side, for example, very silly example, let’s say that you’ve gone and, and connect to all your social and search and email and referral traffic, and all that stuff. And, and it turns out that email sent on Thursdays plus tweets containing emoji are the thing Great, now, you create a model for that saying, hey, these are the things that we need to do. And when we validate the model we tested, we will want to prove that this is the case. And so what you go through and, and you you document out all the things that that mathematically have relationship. And that brings us to the next stage, which is validation. So now that we’ve got this model, now we test it and we say, okay, hey, Social Media Manager, tweet more emoji, and see what happens, right? Hey, email team sent two emails on Thursday instead of one, or make sure you send an email every Thursday instead of every other Thursday with the

    intent to prove causality. One of the the biggest traps and the oldest traps in analytics is making the assumption the correlation is causality. That’s not the case, you have to prove it through the scientific method. That’s what the validation stages validation is, essentially using the scientific method to rigorously prove that the data you’ve collected is causal in nature. And, and can we translate it as such, one, you’ve validated your measurement model, your metrics model, then you roll it out, that’s where we get to deployment. And that means taking all the systems that you’ve engineered up to this point, and transforming them into production systems, to taking them out of test environments, making sure that they are secure, which is a really big deal, making sure that they are idiot proof, I guess,

    but require the minimum amount of hand holding, so that the system can scale up as fast as possible. And deployment can take a long time, depending on how complex the system you’ve built, it can take months, possibly even years, because you need to do it right, you need to make sure that everybody who gets it can adopt it and work with it. The next second stage is adoption. This is adoption of the system, which means training, which means development, which means compliance. Just like if you were rolling out of medication at a hospital, you’d want to make sure that your your users were complying with it, they were actually using it. So making sure that you’ve got this framework in place, and that you’re measuring the next stage is measuring that compliance, what are people doing are people using system I mean, not using the system if you if that’s not the case, then gland going back to the beginning with that goal alignment, that governance process is when you identified all the people who have a stake in this thing, this when you’re at the adoption and measuring phases, you have to go back and check on those people and say, Are you using the system, why you’re not using system if you’re not what needs to be improved if you are using it, and what are the consequences of a failure to comply. So if it’s, you know, if there are people in the company who are just not doing the thing, even though they’ve received a directive from high end up, again, back to the goal line, but section, you’ve got that executive buy in you, you’ve you’ve established that. And so now we get to the adoption phase, it’s like, you got to do the thing, because everybody who signed on to this project said they were going to do the thing. So do the thing.

    If in the measurement phase, you find that people are not doing the thing, they’re not using the model, they’re not using the systems with the software, that’s when you go into the improvement face. And the improvement face doesn’t necessarily mean improvement of the model and improvement, maybe improving the people improving the processes that the model needs in order to be functional, because chances are hopeful you worked out a good number of the bugs in the creation and validation stage. The improvement maybe improving the uptake of the model and its participation. There will of course, be things like software changes, software updates, as technologies change, that improvement and refinement process is always ongoing, and then brings us full circle back to goal alignment. So you’ve developed Do you’ve deployed this thing, it’s in place,

    it is proven it is functional people are using it great is is it delivering the impact that you want? If not, we go back to gold alignment. Okay, was there something that got missed the company’s business change, did technology change so substantially, that all the efforts to that point have been nullified again, that’s a real risk when you’re talking to three four year deployments for massive massive systems. So anybody who’s been through an ER p system deployment, how much fun it is and how quickly it doesn’t go and, and you can see why the cycle has to be iterative and ongoing. If you want to kick it up a notch if you can kick it up a notch because your company culture supports it, take a look at this model and then transform it with agile using agile methodology instead of one big waterfall process. How do you do this in an iterative fashion that allows you to upgrade your standardization upgrade your metrics, measurement and model on a rapid frequent basis. You need to have it in place first, you can’t sort of iterate through the plane. So trying to fly at least the first pass but after that, how do you upgrade those efforts to using an agile model if your company culture supports it? So great question. common question, complex question. This is something that’s going to take a very long time it will not be something that is easy or overnight even for the smallest companies because again, that exploration that model creation that model validation using analytics using data science using machine learning, not something that is an overnight thing despite our best wishes. So great question. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: There Are No Best Times for Social Media

    You Ask, I Answer_ There Are No Best Times for Social Media

    Mike asks, “What is the latest thinking on the best times to post on social media?”

    This is largely a pointless exercise now in many respects. There aren’t magical times when social media works with any level of specificity, even for your audience.

    What should you be doing instead? Determining with a much greater understanding who your audience is. Once you know who your audience is, days and times take care of themselves if you understand human behavior. Couple that with creating content worth consuming and audiences will make time for you.

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    In today’s episode Mike asks what is the latest thinking on the best times to post on social media?

    There isn’t any there shouldn’t be because this is a

    an intellectually bankrupt question and no offense to Mike because I’m sure Mike is probably someone who’s been asked this by his superiors to come up with a a pat magic answer to their social media issues.

    But the question is the wrong question. There are not magical times that social media to suddenly springs to life and, and and, you know, you all of your woes are solved as a marketer doesn’t happen.

    What this quite line of questioning is indicative of is someone or an organization that’s asking of someone to find easy answers and there are

    aren’t any there are no easy answers. When it comes to social media. There are no easy answers when it comes to marketing. It’s a lot of hard work. So what is the correct or the the more inquisitive, or the less incurious answer to this question, what should you be doing? instead?

    The answer is to determine with much greater understanding who your audience is. And it may be a whole bunch of miniature audiences in one and then understanding how those people behave you once you understand who your audience is, dates and times, take care of themselves. Let me get walk you through a couple of examples. Let’s say that you are a b2c brand and you discover through tools like Facebook Audience Insights, Google Analytics, audience analysis, Twitter, Audience Insights, whatever the tool is that you use that the majority of your followers or your fans or your website traffic or whatever happens.

    To be college students, is there a best day or time to post on social media for college students? Well, think about what a college student does. All right, during weekdays, there’s certain days and times when Yeah, they’re probably on their phones doing stuff on the weekends, are there days and times that they’re doing stuff that, you know, hasn’t engaged with their device? Yes, absolutely. There is.

    I’m gonna say that probably not engaging with your brand Saturday night

    at 11pm, maybe one of the highest engagement times but they’re not engaging with you. They’re engaging with their friends. Right.

    And then think about the seasonality. So

    from September through early December, yes, they’re engaged

    in certain activities and they’re on break and then during the summertime they’re on break. And if your audience is international students, guess what sometimes gonna have a very different pattern than a domestic

    So you get the example here the your audience is not just some a more of his blob of people from what you can extract top line data and expect to get good results. There are a lot of sub audiences within your group if you are a b2b company are there days and times that work better than others? Well yes if people are at work then Monday through Friday is generally better but

    there are also people who Sunday evening like to get their their work together organize their week, there are people who are working in startups who are burning the midnight oil seven days a week so if you don’t know what companies your audience works for, then you may be making assumptions about them being say a fortune 500 or fortune 10 very regimented work week when fact that they’re all startups there’s no regimentation at all even time of day may wildly very

    if you’re

    Audience works for agencies for examples, if that’s one of your market or your markets, guess what? A whole bunch of agencies have summer Fridays. So you need to understand who the audiences and how they behave as people in order to be able to understand the times and days when,

    when they’re going to react to your content.

    Are their periods of time when your audiences naturally more curious about what your product or services? Absolutely, and this is something you would get, say, out of search data you would look in, in all of your search analytics to see when are people actually searching for our product? When do they care about our product? When does our product solve a problem? Or when do they have that problem that is going to be a lot more informative for you. Then just wondering, in general when to post on social media.

    If you are if you have development capabilities, or you work with Trust Insights that you will be able to get predictions and

    forecasts of of different types of searches. Sometimes people are searching for their problems. Sometimes people are searching for their solution. Being able to understand both gives you a sense of what content you should be publishing and when. And honestly one of the the simplest, it’s not easy. One of the simplest things you can do to get an understanding of your audience is to go talk to them, have customers for coffee, call them up on the phone, email them interact with them on social media, not from a scheduling perspective or pushing content perspective but just have a conversation with them hey hey I got 15 minutes would like to know how I can serve you better as as a marketer is there content that

    that you’re missing their questions that you have that we’re not answering tell us what we’re doing wrong. One of the easiest ways to to elicit information from people without making them run in fear of you because they’re gonna they’re afraid you’re gonna try.

    Sell them a whole bunch of stuff is to ask them, Hey, what are we doing wrong? What don’t you like, right? Because that automatically sets frames in this slightly negative fashion. But in doing so

    it’s logical natural that you’re probably not going to push a sale on them if they already don’t like you. So asked me for that candid feedback, what can we be doing better? What are we blogging about? That you don’t care about? What do you know what’s in our newsletters? What’s on our Twitter channel? ask people what do you want to see more of what and and if you do this on a regular frequent basis, guess what? As you do those interactions as you talk to people, as you get information from your audience, you are also already solved the date and time question because people will respond to you when they have time, right? So you don’t necessarily need to guess when is your audience most active you just need to ask them questions and questions that you legitimately care about the answers to and that helped the audience do their work better and solve their problems.

    So

    there is no best day in time. But they is understanding the audience and how they live, how they work, how they behave, what problems they have, what solutions you offer that solve those problems and

    and how you can do that best to fit them. Because guess what? If you really solve people’s problems, if you help people make their lives better, you don’t need to worry about date and time, people will make time for you, right? Netflix doesn’t have to worry about when people watch necessarily, right? They have to make great content that convinces people guess what I want to binge watch this entire series this whole weekend. I’m gonna give my weekend and watch this thing, right? So Netflix has to care more about what do people really want to watch then necessarily trying to schedule stuff, right? They just have to make sure that their stuff is of such high value. People will make the time for them. You have to do the same thing people will make the

    Time for your content. So Mike, change your thinking to how can I serve people best? How can they give the most value and people will make the time for you. As always, subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter. I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Favorite Marketing Data Tracking Tools

    You Ask, I Answer_ Favorite Marketing Data Tracking Tools

    Magdalena asks, “What are your favorite tools to track data and which one are you using on daily basis?”

    I’m a huge fan of source data, so whenever a practical API is available, I’ll use it.

    • For social media, I use Brand24 and Crowdtangle almost daily.
    • For owned digital, Google Analytics is my one source of truth.
    • For earned media, I use IBM Watson Discovery and GDELT, the BigQuery database that stores the back end feed of Google News.
    • For paid media, I use the APIs of individual ad platforms.
    • For search/SEO, I use AHREFS.

    Almost all these platforms are data sources. That’s an important distinction; most of the analytics in these platforms doesn’t suit my needs. In my day to day work at Trust Insights, I do most of my analysis in R, MySQL, and Tableau today. For reporting, when practical I use Google Data Studio.

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    In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, What are your favorite tools to track data? And which ones are you using on a daily basis? I am a huge fan of source data. So whenever API’s are available, I will use them. In fact, one of the criteria that I used to decide whether or not I wanted to work with a particular tool or vendor is what sort of data export Do they have Do they have the gold standard which is CSV, comma separated value files Do they have a JSON API that they have other forms of API’s, soap, XML, etc, do they have direct database access, where you can work directly with the back end. And the more data sources that a company has an the more that they are open and available to work with, the more likely it is I’m I’m going to use that tool because one of the things I found with a lot of marketing tools is that they are intended for the layperson marketer. And they are not intended for the the data driven marketer, the data driven marketer who would need to manipulate the data in ways that might not be foreseen by the vendor. And so that’s an important criteria. For me, I am a big fan of source data, like I said, so let’s take a look at some of the tools that I use on a daily basis. And on what data they supply. In terms of social media monitoring, I use brand 24, because it is relatively comprehensive, especially on the social networks less on on news and things and video because those are much more difficult API’s to parse. But it does a great job. And I can spit out into Excel, CSV formats and things and, and get data white Alba platform. This is the source platform I use when I make influencer graphs. Because I can

    drop a keyword in pull the data from an event that’s occurring, something like that, and, and get a really good insights from software I wrote to process the data a second what they use a ton more so now than ever is crowd Tango, which is a piece of software that was an independent company once, and then Facebook bought them. And it is bar none. One of the best data sources for Facebook, for Instagram, four Twitter and for Reddit, they can can export data, again, spits out in very nice CSV format. It also has an API, the CSV format, is actually more robust than the API with the API is, is heavily throttled. But you can get data out of crowd tangle that frankly, you can’t

    get anywhere else, including really good Instagram data

    for owned media media that are your digital properties. Is there any other source than Google Analytics? Well, I’m sure that you know, for some companies there are, but for what I use, and for what I recommend for clients, Google Analytics is is the one source of truth for owned media properties owned digital properties, where you can slap a tracking code on them. As part of that, of course, Google Tag Manager and the entire Google Mark marketing platform is is the tools that I use to track data there for earned media tracking the news specifically, I love Watson discovery. Watson discovery has a rolling 60 day window of news articles that are automatically tags, sentiment, concepts, hierarchies, and thanks. So it does a really good job of categorizing the news and then you can go right into Watson discovery and query the database and ask very specific terms builds queries and stuff. So it is a fantastic platform pay very powerful and for the first thousand queries every month totally free. So if you are a an earned media relations or program professional, if you’re a PR professional, this is definitely a data source you should be using.

    It has a learning curve to it. But once you get the hang of it, you will find that its ability to do really good analysis of data is fantastic. The other one I use is called g dealt G. Delta is

    an actual nonprofit project powered by Google. And it provides you with a back end to Google’s database of all the major news events that Google News sees 300,000

    stories day like yesterday, yesterday was the 12 when I’m recording this. So the yesterday 302,892

    news stories, which is just a phenomenal amount of news, but because it has a sequel interface, you can actually query the database as a data scientist or as a as a data analyst and get exactly what you want out of it in ways that you can’t do with traditional Google News. And of course, you can then dump it to your own Google Cloud account, and then export it to your own database for further analysis. But it’s a fantastic source

    for paid media. I, of course, use all of the different paid platforms like AdWords and stack adapted stuff, that they all have individual API’s and tools. And then for search and SEO, I use RF, the folks were kind enough to gift marketing over coffee with a a membership. So we’ve been aggressively using that to track and extract data, some fantastic tools,

    good data export. So again, data export so important, all these platforms that use all these tools, they use arm my data sources that and I I can’t explain emphasize that enough. It’s an important distinction. Most of the analytics in these tools and these platforms, they don’t suit my needs, I am admittedly not a normal marketer, I’m not the average person just

    trying to figure out what to put in, you know, this month’s slide deck that goes to the board. I am a data analyst, a data scientist in my day to day work at Trust Insights, I do most of my analysis of data and are the programming language, my sequel database and tablet, the visualization software. And then

    for reporting, particularly for clients. When practical, I try to use Google Data Studio only because it’s, it’s is an easily supported cloud environment for for great reporting. But for me, for my criteria of what is a favorite tool, it has to have robust data export, and it has to be in common, it used to work with formats and the date has got to be good, the data has got to be clean, and good and reputable. And that’s that’s another important distinction is all these tools because you’re very, very close to raw data, or in cases like Big Query that is absolutely raw data, you can validate that what you’re getting is the real deal is the good stuff. Same with crowd Tango, for example, and brand 24, you’re getting the individual pieces of data that you then have to go and summarize. But because you’re getting the you’re getting the the raw data, you can also look at and go, okay, something’s right or not right in it. And that is an important criteria as well for someone like me, where I need to be able to look at the raw data itself and, and validate Yep, this is good, or Nope, this is not good. Something’s wrong when you have a tool that just kind of side summarizes everything in in any easy to read chart. Cool. But you can’t decompose that chart and look inside and go, Hmm, something here doesn’t pass the sniff test. So

    great question. Magdalena. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Value of Social Media Posts

    You Ask, I Answer_ Value of Social Media Posts

    Matthew asks, “A client asked me to attach a dollar value to social media posts’ reach. How do you value posts? Is it just the cost of the post if you boosted it with ads?”

    An old enemy returns from the grave – ad value equivalence (AVE). This is AVE in different clothing, but fundamentally the same thing. The problem with AVE is that it assumes the value of a piece of media is equal to its cost – the opportunity cost of putting something else in its place. This is patently untrue – the value of a piece of media is the business result it generates. Only attribution analysis, done properly, will yield that answer.

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    In today’s episode, Matthew asks, a client asked me to attach 1 value to social media posts reach How do you value social media posts? Is it just the cost of the post? If you boost it with ads,

    and old enemy returns from the grave, long time, PR professionals should be shaking their heads on this one. This is a concept called add value equivalence. Back in the old days when people still read paper newspapers in great numbers

    the way that some public relations folks would value the story would be okay if you hear substituted the amount of space on the page that the story about your client took up with what it would cost of purchase that spaces and add that’s the value of the story. This is of course a stupid way evaluating.

    Public Relations.

    Matthew’s question is add value equivalents in different clothing. It is saying, okay, the value of a social posts, the reach it gets, which is a proxy for attention is what it would cost to buy it.

    The reason why add value equivalence is a bad measure of any form of media, old media, new media, social media doesn’t matter is that it assumes that the, the value of a piece of media is equivalent to its cost, the opportunity cost for the publication to put something else in that space. Now, in the early days of social media, we would say, of course, your space is infinite. But we know that’s not true. There’s unlimited number of ads slots available on a Facebook feed, or an Instagram feed compared to the number of advertisers. So that’s not it. What what’s wrong with this concept and it is a very old concept that just keeps coming up over and over again, is that it makes the assumption that value equals cost in that’s not true.

    The value of a piece of media is the business result that it generates. So if you care about awareness, then yes, the you may want to use views or reach as a measure. If you care about engagement, people actually interacting with a piece of media that you’ve created. That’s a very different number, right? A million people have seen a post, but if no one commented on it,

    did it ever have any actual impact? Think about how you use a mobile device, right? You’re sitting there just scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll.

    Yes, that counts as a view even if the person can’t recall anything about your your company your brand

    things like brand recall matter. A great deal more for measuring the effectiveness of a piece of media. Hey, you read this story or this Facebook post or this ad or this Instagram image about this coffee shop? Name a coffee shop and if the person who just read that story can’t remember the name of a coffee shop other than like y’all met

    Good chain,

    your story had no impact, your media had no impact. If you measure on things like lead, lead conversion on site traffic, physical brick and mortar, traffic, all of these are things that are business metrics that you want to be able to run attribution analysis to work back into, to say, Okay, this combination of, of channels and this combination of media and these combinations of days and times, and all the attributes that you use to gather information about your marketing program, all that mathematically will lead to a result

    and you get to that by running is formally called attribution analysis and the mathematics behind it depending on which system you use

    will dictate whether something is actually working or not, but simply swapping in the cost to reach people for the value of reaching people is the completely wrong way to do it.

    Not a knock on Matthews question. Matthew is asking a question that his, his client is asking him,

    the way to do it is with attribution analysis. Now, some forms of attribution are readily accessible. So if you were to go into Google Analytics, for example, assuming your goals and your goal values are set up correctly and valued properly,

    there are attribution models the bottom of the conversions menu on the left hand side, and you can choose from five or six built in models. And you can go to the Google Analytics gallery and select more models. If you want to get even more sophisticated, you can put all of this stuff into a massive database and use machine learning and statistics and data science to extract out what your what your true attribution is. That requires a bit more background on statistics and mathematics of course, but it is a doable thing. It is something that people are able to do today it’s not something theoretical and then of course, for if you want to get really, really

    Advanced there are separate products and services and companies, just dedicated attribution analysis. One of them that you’re probably will be most familiar with the Google attribution, which is part of the Google Analytics. The 60 sweet it is sticks, pens, a piece of software. But if you’re spending you’re trying to figure out where you want to spend your80 million in, in TV, and ad and display and digital advertising and and what resources you want to hire for the cost per month of that software is probably quite reasonable. It’s just a fraction of a percent compared to 10s or hundreds of millions of dollars in media spend. So

    can you substitute the value of a post for the cost of the post know what should you do instead, find an attribution method and model that works for your business that’s affordable and that will give you a much close to answer to what’s actually working. Great question Matthew. Difficult question I recommend

    That, you know, if you don’t have a whole lot of gray in your in your hair, you may not have seen this particular beast crop up before in your career. But know that this has been something that has been debated for decades upon decades as a way of valuing media. And the general consensus among those folks who specialize in measurement is that it is probably the worst form of measurement.

    I will say that if you have absolutely no other measurement

    capability, and you have no other way of providing any kind of analytics, then you could use this as a last resort. But that would mean that the company itself has no understanding of its business goals or metrics and you should probably find a different company to work for because they’re doomed if they have no idea what their business goals are. They’re doomed once you know your company’s business goals. add value equivalence goes out the window.

    So great question. As always, please subscribe.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Get Smart on a Client’s Industry Fast

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Get Smart on a Client's Industry Fast

    Monica asks, “How do I create good content for an industry I’m unfamiliar with?”

    I had a colleague in the PR industry who called this getting smart, fast, and she used the time-honored technique of reading and researching via Google, news sources, and social media subject matter experts. This is a time-tested approach that works, but it doesn’t often uncover little gems. Some additional things to try:

    • Use the GDELT database to search and extract news topics from the Google News back-end
    • Use SEO tools like AHREFs to find top ranked pages for the industry
    • Use Google Scholar to find the most cited papers in the last 12 months
    • Use AI to summarize the results – Watson Discovery is probably easiest for non-technical users

    Discovering what’s hot is an iterative process. Expect it to take some time, but with the tools above, you’ll find unique questions to ask your subject matter experts.

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    In today’s episode, Monica asks, How do I create good content for an industry I’m unfamiliar with,

    especially if the client is not forthcoming about about things their expert on now I had a colleague in my old agency who used to call this getting smart. And what you would do is before a client meeting or a big pitch for to win a new customer. I’m shoots spend a couple days just doing the time on a technique of reading and researching via Google new sources following a couple social media experts. And this this is a time tested approach. It works really well and it gives you a good lay of the land. Now what it doesn’t do is it doesn’t uncover little gems it doesn’t uncover things that you’d be able to then go to a true subject matter expert like someone at your client asked them interesting questions to elicit.

    their point of view because many times when you’re talking about creating great content, you’re talking about a unique point of view and unique perspective that isn’t in available in in the, the stuff that you can easily Google. So what are some ways we can do that? Now there’s about three or four different ways to extract some useful information. Obviously, starting with Google News is a great place you typing in clinical psychology, clinical therapy in psychology here, we’ll get you some news sources. And then you have a if you have if you have not taken a Google News power searching course, you really should, because it gives you the ability to prune out stuff. So in this case, there’s a whole bunch of versions of the story about some some person running for office and Alabama. I’m not interested in that because it’s not part of creating content about the field of clinical therapy psychology. So knocking stuff out is a very useful way to start on Google News. Using it this way is a very straightforward way you can find that the top general terms another way to do this as if you are familiar with Google’s big question.

    database which is a massive Big Data Store, you can actually query the database directly and get some interesting and useful information that way. However, it requires you to be fluent in sequel, the database discovery language, and many folks are not so. But keep that in mind. It’s part of a project that Google once called g dealt, which is summarizing the world’s news. The second way I like to approach things with SEO tools, SEO tools allow, like in this case, I’m using RFC here and allow you to understand what’s being linked to what’s out there. So let’s look at clinical therapy for psychology which is the topic that Monica was asking about specifically

    and I can look through here and and start understanding the basics of what’s being shared what’s being linked to we can restrict to a higher quality domains here to remove some of the junk stuff that’s out there. And we can also specify things like languages time period and things like that to get a better under

    Standing of what’s happening. So cognitive behavioral therapy. So stuff like massage therapy, we probably want to knock out of our results as well to try and refine it and tune it up. One of the other things like to look for is keywords and what sites rank wealth with us and you can do this with regular Google. But having an SEO tool gives you in many cases, some better perspectives

    therapists versus ecologist what’s the difference from the therapists and psychologists some a little more refinement and getting a sense of what websites are out there like the APA is a credible organization obviously that they would have a lot of data that we could use to extract out interesting perspectives and or news in their space. A third service that I enjoy using is called Google Scholar. Google Scholar allows you to query psychology any any academic papers, this isn’t especially useful tool if you’re tackling an academic field where there’s a lot of publishing and where you might not necessarily have stuff in general, Google News or or general

    Social media in fact, you know, some of the most reputable people in a field, probably like five followers on Twitter, because it’s a are they are so specialized that they their work has exclusively within the, the the academic domain. So in this case I pulled together clinical therapy psychology and restricted since 2017 because we want sort of new and different perspectives and if you scroll through, you can see there are all these different academic papers and publications and books that you can reference many of them have PDF that you can download the PDFs and read through them and and look at down here for some interesting additional terms to search for that you may not necessarily know because you’re not an expert in the domain. But with these terms. And with these papers, you can get a sense of what’s cutting edge in the field. Now if you want to take this up yet another notch. You can take all the papers that are open to the public that have a PDF link and feed them to artificial intelligence and say artificial intelligence. Please help me summarize and explore

    What’s in the box so that I can get a better sense of the field? I’m going to use Watson discovery here. Watson discovery allows you to load you these papers in as documents and then it goes through and explores them and tries to understand what’s happening inside the box. So you can sentiment in very specific terms cognitive behavioral therapy, major depressive disorder,

    making come up with hierarchy and keywords and stuff like that. Let’s go ahead and query

    what is depressive disorder

    and this is now asking questions just to these academic papers. So I can look at a very very narrow perspective

    what signing teachers meta cognitive therapy, what is what’s new and effective? The third way of cognitive behavioral therapies now we’re getting into stuff that is very interesting These are the questions that you would go straight to your subject matter expert for because these are things that you don’t know as as a an outsider to the field but a subject matter experts going to have a lot of perspective

    I’m a lot of very strong opinions on. And frankly, we don’t know what we don’t know here how prevalent our anxiety disorders and schizophrenia now we get into the good stuff. Now we’re getting to the stuff that you can create great content about, because it may not be out there. Or if it is out there, it’s not going to be your clients perspective, or your company’s perspective. And so using Watson discovery as a way to extract out these things from these academic papers that you might not otherwise be able to read through without getting all the the goodness out of them. And so that’s using AI to start summarizing these things. And because Watson can take in PDFs, HTML, Word documents and stuff, if your client also has data internally, like, Hey, you don’t just send me you know, make sure your NDA is in place and just send me the last 500, you know, internal documents about that throat and discovery and say, Okay, now we can ask questions to build really, really insightful content, especially if it’s from those subject matter experts, so

    That’s the process of using some upper level tools to really get to some unique perspectives. Watson discovering the incarnation. I’m running it here. There’s a free plan that allows you to set up one project and load I think 2 million documents and ask up to 1000 queries a month before we have to start paying for it. But but it is relatively inexpensive. Otherwise,

    the first thousand queries are free. So something you can try out, play around with

    SEO tools, your average SEO tool is going to be between 75 and $300 a month. These are tools that have a lot of dual purposes. So you should have if you are in the marketing profession, you should have at least one in your portfolio. And obviously the one I’m using here is called RF, Sarah, a bunch of other ones as well. Google News is free, Google Scholar is free. So you can see that many of the sources are very, very low cost and or free and can help you build those extra insights. So great question, Monica. This process will take your content to the next level and really help you show your client Hey

    I am on the ball. And this is true for anybody who works in house at an agency, whatever. This is how you get great answers. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon. Take care if you want help with your company’s data and analytics. Visit Trust Insights calm today and let us know how we can help you.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Identify Fake Influencers

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Identify Fake Influencers

    Grace asks, “There’s been a lot of news about people who fake being an influencer by buying followers and colluding with groups of influencers. How do you identify fake influencers?”

    Great question.  Let’s first discuss what brands actually want, even if they can’t measure it effectively.

    • Awareness
    • Engagement
    • Action

    Second, let’s identify the ways someone can fake influence.

    • Share bots
    • Paid followings
    • Pods are a gray area

    Which fake tactics are the worst? Paid followings – because they’re generally bots, and bot followers won’t do anything to increase actual awareness. Share bots aren’t as terrible, because there’s a non-zero chance they share a piece of content with actual humans. We’ve all read how effective bots were in influencing politics. They couldn’t have done that if they were sharing only to other bots. Pods – even though pods are considered a black hat tactic in influencer marketing, the reality is that they work and they don’t damage a brand’s goals.

    Given the above, how do we identify bad actors? Combining a few metrics helps us identify warning flags to examine likely problems.

    •  Groups that self-reinforce in a network graph
    • Entities that broadcast but never have anyone talking about them
    • Entities that have distorted metrics (thousands of likes, not a single comment, etc.)

    Watch the video for full details and an example in fashion influencers.

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    In today’s episode, Grace asks, there’s been a lot of news about people who fake being an influencer by buying followers and colluding with groups of influencers. How do you identify fake influencers? Great question. Generally speaking, people behave in certain ways. And when you see accounts that have data that skews pretty far from that, that’s a way to identify likely problems. So let’s first discuss what brands actually want in social media, when they’re working with influencers, even if they’re not particularly good at measuring it, there’s three general pockets, right. So a brand will want awareness and alternatively, or in addition to awareness or affinity to consumers like that brand. They want engagement people talking to the brand liking, commenting on stuff like that sharing and then want action they want stuff that leads to business results can be website traffic, it could be purchase right on the social network. But you know, Instagram offers shopping right on board, it could be

    filling out a lead form, it could be showing up at a retail store, it could be promoting being an evangelist for that ran into and and wearing their logo and stuff on on your apparel. And so those are some of the ways that that’s something that brands are looking for. So

    with that, what are the ways that you can fake influence? Well, there’s there’s three or four different ways with bots fake accounts, robotic accounts, there are there are share bots which will automatically share anything that you know, they pick up content and reshare it over and over again, there are paid followings. We can buy followers. And there are these things called pods, which are kind of a gray area pods are private groups of people who collude behind the scenes to promote something in a Facebook group in Slack channel, whatever, you just see the effects of it, but you don’t necessarily see the conversations and agreeing Hey, we’re gonna prove it promotes Susan stuff this week. So Susan is going to be the rock star that you can next week, George is your turn. Now, which of these tactics are the worst? From a brand perspective, generally speaking, paid followings are the worst because their butts and bought followers don’t do anything to increase actual awareness or actual trust or affinity and a brand.

    If someone buys 30,000 followers, they had 1000 the start with Yes, they may be seeing, oh, you know, you may be sharing to an audience of 30,000 on paper, but you really like sharing to an audience 1000 people share bots aren’t as bad because there’s a nonzero chance that they share a piece of content with actual human

    we saw this we read about it’s been in the news about how effective

    bots were in influencing politics and influencing elections. I know they could not have done that, that if they were sharing only two other bots, they were able to engage with actual people promote a message those people want to promote and

    get a good result.

    And then on the third one is pods. Even though pods are considered a black hat tactic by a lot of folks in social media, the reality is they work and they don’t damage of brands goals. Right. If a brand’s goals are awareness, engagement and action, get 500 parents sharing a link.

    That’s not a bad thing. That is

    the belief that pods are bad assumes that you only care about individual influencers, if you can get an entire group of moderately influential people to do something Mission accomplished. So

    given all that above, how do you identify bad actors? The answer, unsurprisingly, is analytics. What we’re looking for in our data are anomalies, right. So we want to identify groups that self reinforce entities that bro broadcast a lot, but never had anyone talking about them. And entities that have distorted metrics, where there’s like, you know, millions of one metric and zero of something else. So what we’ve got on screen here, this is from a piece of software called, and it requires social media monitoring data. So I have separate software that pulls in the data cleans, it prepares it to be useful in network graphics software. But let’s take a look at some of the metrics in here as a way to identify in fake influences. If we look at 25,000 conversations or so about fashion, you can see there’s really no no easy way to understand what you’re looking at. But what we’re looking for is this measure here, this, this, it’s called eigenvector sensuality. And what it is, is a measure of how many people talk about you versus how many people you talk about, a lot of these networks do a lot of broadcasting, but not a lot of receiving because they have no influence. They particularly on fake follower funds. So anything that has just no connections on that graph at all. And none of this, the sensuality measure is clearly not something that’s going to be influential. And as we as we go down the list here, you can see the influence of still zero, even though there are some accounts to have in this case, like, yeah, this one’s got broadcasting 49 different conversations. But no, but he’s talking about in the the influence measure, still zero. So all that was going to get rid of all those people in the network graph. And then there’s some accounts get post and re grant and stuff that clearly also don’t add anything to the conversation. So we’ll go ahead and get rid of that. And now we rerun this. And this is a process you do a few times to clean and refine the network graph until you have something that is usable, going through

    this process.

    Going through Now, a few iterations, we’ve gotten rid of everything that is not influential in the sense of contributing to the graph and look how much neater and clean to this graph is. Now let’s go ahead and actually put some names and clustering on this. And if we look carefully, now, we see this is super tight, evenly sized clusters, those are pods now, whether they are pods that are human or bought doesn’t matter that we know we can identify through the fact that they have these self referential loops within each other, that they are almost certainly automated compound that with the fact that these are probably not necessarily folks that you have heard of, and that they share all share similar names. And we’ve successfully identified that these are clusters that we will probably want to discount or filter out in our monitoring software. So that’s what one of the things that comes next is in the process. Once you identify the bad actors, you don’t just delete them and and go at the rescue, then feed that back into your social media monitoring system train and teach it like these accounts to not pay attention to and over time what will happen is you’ll get a much cleaner view of the landscape because you’ll be able to remove that stuff from your all your monitoring, once you’ve done a few passes of that you then start to see more natural networks of things that appear actually like networks rather than just a couple of big self referential clusters. And that’s when you know you’ve arrived at an influencer list that is meaningful that is going to get you reach into a community which is the whole point to get that awareness to get that engagement and to get that action so that we would be able to say like this this person here who is highly interactive within this particular Instagram community is the influencer so if this is a group that we care about, then that’s going to get us the the juice that we were looking for. This is not easy stuff this is all machine learning and network graphing and statistics and stuff so and and to do it for a really large space would require some decently heavy compute time so that’s one of the reasons why you don’t see more of this in the influencer marketing space and why companies even companies that are reputable otherwise it’s social media monitoring why they’re in influencer identification algorithm. So so bad because this stuff requires really heavy iron in order to to get you the answers that you want about who’s actually influential. So your best bet as a if you’re running influencer, identification for a brand for client is to have a narrower context and dig into that very specific context. Rather than trying to go after a huge topic. Like all fashion, you’re going to need super computer power to tackle all fashion or all food. If there’s a specific thing like I want the top influencer about Gouda cheese, you’re probably going to do a little bit better. So great question. Grace of a complicated question. And as you can see, require some heavy lifting in order to be able to identify things in the data and, and clean your data properly to get to the insights you’re looking for.

    But this is how you do it. And it’s now up to vendors and and providers and stuff to be able to refine that and turn that into a product that doesn’t require a data scientist to do gap. And of course, if if there’s something you need to have done, get a data scientist to do it for you.

    Because again, a lot of what’s on the market right now the software isn’t up to doing this sort of heavy back end research. So as always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon.

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