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  • Mind Readings: AI Content Detectors Deep Dive Part 4

    Mind Readings: AI Content Detectors Deep Dive Part 4

    In today’s episode, you’ll discover how to leverage AI to create a compelling and insightful term paper, focusing on critical thinking rather than just writing. You’ll learn a step-by-step process using tools like Perplexity AI, NotebookLM, and Google AI Studio to research, analyze, and develop a strong argument. You’ll also gain valuable insights into how to critically evaluate AI-generated content and refine it with your own unique perspective, preparing you for the future of research and academic work. Don’t miss this practical guide!

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    Welcome back. This is part four in our AI Content Detector series. Today, we’re going to talk about building the term paper of the future using generative AI. We’re going to walk through a process of how you might want to teach a student how to use generative AI to write a term paper of the future. We’re going to talk about this from the perspective of how you would go about building a great term paper. A machine will write it, but a student has to do all the thinking to make it happen.

    For the topic, let’s see what we have here. I’m looking at my kid’s old stuff. A couple of years ago, my kid did a paper on the Supreme Court’s impact on the economy and whether or not the Supreme Court has had a net positive or net negative on the economy, which is an interesting paper.

    First, how would you go about instructing a student to write this paper? In the era of AI, probably suggest using various tools to find credible sources of data. You could use a traditional tool like this. Let’s search “Supreme Court cases and economic impacts” and see what we have here. “The Non-Impact Circuit’s Regulatory Taking Cases: Does the Supreme Court Really Matter?” You might want to teach the student to look for citation numbers and then look for PDFs. So, let’s take a look here. We have cases. Let’s limit this to the 21st century. Looking at a few of these different papers—”Penalizing Punitive Damages,” “Selecting on the Economy”—okay. Let’s grab the URLs because we’ll want to use them for APA citation. We want to remember where we got our stuff from. Let’s get the papers themselves. Here is “The Non-Impact of Regulatory Rulings.” Grab this and download it.

    Next, let’s use a true AI tool: Perplexity AI. We’ll ask the same question: “Find peer-reviewed studies, research, and cases that examine the economic impact of Supreme Court rulings. Restrict your search to papers and content published in the 21st century.” Let’s turn on Pro Mode. You get five free Pro uses a day. It’s going to go through and try to answer this question. Let’s see what we have here. We have a study by Donald Sanger. He established a methodology for the court’s cases. Let’s look at the source on Scholar Commons. Let’s look at the citation. That might be worth including. Let’s save that. “Contribution to Economic”—this is the Gilman article. I think we might have this one already. “Impact on Specific Economic Areas, Property”—that’s from Kiplinger. Those are all Kiplinger articles, which I would not say are peer-reviewed sources. That’s NF—that’s a lobbying group. Project Syndicate—okay. So, we’ve got a decent selection of data.

    Our next stop should be Google’s free NotebookLM. This is a research tool that uses Google’s Gemini, but it will only answer questions that you give it about a specific topic. You have to give the questions, and you have to give it the data itself. It cannot pull data from something that you did not give it. I’m going to take all of those papers that we just looked at. I’m going to drag them in here. It’s going to start digesting these things down. A lot of people love the audio preview—you can make a little podcast episode out of this—but I think we’re going to do the briefing document, the table of contents, the study guide, and the frequently asked questions. Let’s do the timeline, too, while we’re at it. This makes little flashcards that examine the data we uploaded. Frequently asked questions about these things, “Exploring Judicial Behavior”—we should create one more summary. This tool gives us the ability to ask questions of these data sources specifically, which is super helpful.

    So, let’s start by asking it, “Based on the information provided, summarize the economic impact of Supreme Court case rulings on the U.S. economy.” What’s really nice is that it will go through and try to answer this question only based on information that we’ve given it. It says, “Based on the sources provided, Supreme Court rulings have impacted the economy in the following ways: the court generally favors business interests over those of consumers and employees; the Supreme Court’s rulings on economic policy influence lower courts; the court’s influence on economic policy is not absolute; the court’s decisions on issues like punitive damages have been criticized for lacking economic grounding; the court’s decisions can have significant and immediate impacts on specific aspects of the economy.” Let’s copy this and put this in our scratch file because that’s a useful summary.

    Let’s ask it next, “Based on the information available, have Supreme Court case rulings been a net positive or net negative to the overall U.S. economy?” Let’s see what it comes up with. “Determining the overall impact—the sources don’t offer a conclusive answer. They do provide insights into different facets of the court’s influence: pro-business tendencies, impact on lower courts’ policy, role of economic conditions.” We’re going to take that and save that information as well. We’re basically creating a little scrapbook here.

    Next, we want to move out of NotebookLM into the standard generative model. I’m going to use Google’s AI Studio because I want to use the most advanced model, Gemini Pro 002. I’m going to make a few minor settings changes to make sure it can generate lots of long output. We’re going to first ask it—this time, we don’t have to prime the model because we just did that in NotebookLM—”Today, we’re going to be writing a position paper on the impact of the U.S. Supreme Court on the U.S. economy. Here is some background information.” Let’s put in our notes from earlier. “And then here are some source documents.” We’re going to add the same papers we started with. One thing that’s true about generative AI is that the more data you provide, the less it makes things up. If you can provide more information up front, it will do a better job. Let’s feed it this information and have it start to review and think about it.

    Okay, after about three minutes of thinking, it came up with a very brief regurgitation. This is unhelpful. This is no different than a term paper where the student just spits back the information. We might want to say, “You need to have a point of view.” Suppose I prompted it by saying, “I want the focus of this paper to be that the Supreme Court is ultimately a net negative on the U.S. economy as currently formed, with reasons why. My position paper needs to come up with some recommendations because a paper just complaining does little to advance democracy based on everything we’ve discussed so far. What might be some potential suggestions?” This is part and parcel of how education would change, not from “Hey, just use this tool to write a paper faster,” but based on the summaries and the evidence and the information we gathered, seeing in NotebookLM that it came up with—”The way the Supreme Court has ruled on things in the past has ultimately been very pro-business and favors business interests over those of consumers and employees.” Depending on your perspective of how the world works, that might be a good thing or a bad thing. So, if I was teaching students about this, I would say, “Reviewing the conclusions from NotebookLM, what position would you take? What point of view would you have on this?” Then go back and prompt the AI model to help you think through that position.

    In this case, we’ve asked it, “I want some recommendations because, for this paper, I think this is a bad thing. So, what would you suggest?” We want the student to think critically and consider options and ways to fix this. Okay, about three minutes later, after the model has chewed through our suggestions, it has revisited its first draft and come up with some suggestions. It says, “Some of these negative influences can be countered by promoting economic expertise on the court, influencing the selection of justices, enhancing transparency and accountability. The court should embrace greater transparency in its decision-making processes, campaign finance reform itself, expanding access to justice, and promoting civic engagement and voter participation.” Now, again, this is an improvement.

    If you were an instructor, how would you critique this? If we think about this as the Socratic method, the machine is the student, and the student is the debater, the one who should be asking tough questions of the machine. We can do this by teaching the student to consider things they might not have. So, I’m going to say, “Based on these suggestions, I want to identify a path forward that has the fewest negative unintended consequences, especially to marginalized populations that are already disadvantaged in American society. Additionally, I want to reduce the likelihood that unethical politicians could further take advantage of or willfully misinterpret the law and the rulings of the Supreme Court to their advantage. I want you to evaluate the paper so far based on these criteria and score your suggestions on a –10 to +10 scale, where +10 is the most positive impact, especially on marginalized populations, and –10 is the most negative impact, especially on marginalized populations. Review your suggestions, score them, and then wait for my input.” What we’re doing here is critical thinking. We’re saying, “These suggestions sound great, but what could go wrong? How could these suggestions be misinterpreted?” If we’re talking about civics, we might want to consider these points. We want to consider not just advocating for a position but asking, “What could go wrong?” That is a critical thing that very few people in general are doing right now.

    So, let’s see what it comes up with. It has evaluated promoting economic expertise in the court as a +8, enhancing transparency and accountability as a +7, campaign finance reform as a +9, and expanding access to justice as a +10. It talks about each of the reasons why these things would be impactful but also acknowledges their difficulty. We might want to further ask it, “Of these suggestions, keeping in mind the hyper-polarized political environment today, which one would be most practical to achieve?”

    After about a minute and a half of thinking, it says enhancing transparency and accountability presents the most practical path forward in this hyper-polarized political environment. “While all the suggestions have merit, campaign finance reform and expanding access to justice face significant political obstacles. Promoting economic expertise, while beneficial, depends heavily on the individuals selected. Civic and voter participation addresses a symptom rather than a root cause. Transparency and accountability offers a less politically charged entry point.” That’s a pretty interesting conclusion—not the one I thought it was going to pick. Again, if you’re teaching this to a student, you want to have a discussion and say, “Which one would you have picked, and why? How does the tool’s reasoning sound to you?” I think this reasoning sounds interesting.

    We’re going to wrap this up by saying, “Based on everything we’ve talked about so far, let’s propose a new outline for the paper that has these rough categories: introduction, current situation, likely outcomes, suggestions for future changes, impact, feasibility, selecting a path forward, and conclusion.” We’re going to have the software build a new outline for a paper.

    Our outline is now beefed up based on what we’ve provided: briefly introducing the Supreme Court’s role, the current situation, likely outcomes of inaction, proposals for a more just future, anticipating the impacts of reform, assessing feasibility, a strategic path forward, and a conclusion. We can now say, “Using this new outline and all the conversations so far, write the paper section by section.”

    Now, what happens after this? The machine has created a paper. Instead of having 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 students generating papers individually, maybe you have teams of three or four or five people. One person on that team generates a paper, and then the rest of the team debates, corrects, and argues with it. Even though the machine is creating this thing, treat it like any other academic source. Say, “Okay, what’s good about this paper? What’s bad? What are the blind spots? What got missed?” What we’re doing here is trying to teach students to think critically, to ask probing questions, to have a point of view based on the research they’ve done and the tools that have helped them summarize it, and ultimately, to criticize the output of the machines. That is probably the most important takeaway from all of this: getting people to not implicitly trust what the machine spits out. It’s not about writing a paper; it’s about thinking. It’s about helping people think critically, helping people develop the skills to think critically, which, in this case, requires a lot of research, gathering information, and having a point of view. If we can adapt our educational processes to embrace the use of AI, we will do much better.

    Okay, that’s part four of this series. Let’s move on to part five, the final part, “Where do people go from here?” So, stay tuned for that. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live. Thank you.

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  • Mind Readings: AI Content Detectors Deep Dive Part 2

    Mind Readings: AI Content Detectors Deep Dive Part 2

    In today’s episode, you’ll explore the real purpose of assignments like term papers and discover why using AI can actually enhance the learning process. You’ll uncover the hidden history of our current education system and challenge its relevance in the 21st century. You’ll also learn innovative ways to use AI as a learning partner, fostering critical thinking and preparing students for a future driven by technology. Don’t miss this thought-provoking discussion!

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    Welcome back to part two of our AI and academia and AI Detectors series. In this part, let’s talk about why a student—or anyone—would use generative AI to do their work.

    It is human nature—and it is actually just nature, period—to use as little energy as possible to accomplish a task. That is all of nature, from the smallest of animals to the most complex person. We want to do as little as possible to conserve energy. That is a survival instinct.

    What is the point of writing a paper, especially if a tool can do a better job than a human? Well, the point of a term paper is to, in theory, have a student do research, think, consolidate their thoughts, and then express their thoughts in a coherent matter that shows they can think. That is the point. Is writing a term paper the best way to do that?

    Writing is thinking. Getting someone to write is a way to help them think. I write. I write a ton. My weekly newsletter that I write every Sunday—I type, but I write without the assistance of AI because a lot of the time I have ideas in my head that I want to consolidate, and writing is the best way for me to order those thoughts. It is not the only way.

    If you were to go back to ancient Greece, it’s Socratic debate and the Socratic method of talking through ideas. Writing was a precious luxury. Sitting around and talking about something was the way most people did their thinking—to talk something through. We still have that in our vernacular today: talking something through.

    So, in a classroom setting, can you have someone do Socratic debate? Absolutely can. You could do it in triads. You could do the outer ring and a ring. You could do any of the methods of that system. In doing so, particularly if students were not permitted the use of their devices, you could have them demonstrate that they could think about a topic. It’s asking challenging, open-ended questions.

    We used the example from part one: “How does the Supreme Court impact the economy?” You could have a literal debate. One side is assigned the perspective of, “Here’s how it impacts the economy positively/negatively.” Another side saying it has no impact whatsoever. And they can debate. They can try to prove their points.

    The downside for institutional education is that it doesn’t scale well. It is very difficult to automate that. If you read the excellent The Underground History of American Education by John Taylor Gatto, you will recognize very quickly that the education system that we mostly operate with today in the 21st century was optimized in the early 20th century by Carnegie and Mellon and Rockefeller, and the intent of the education system, at least within the United States, was to generate obedient workers. The education system was designed to generate obedient workers. We have batches of product that we call grades—grade seven, grade eight, sophomore, junior, senior. We have quality assurance testing to ensure a minimally functional product called standardized testing. We encourage conformity of thought. Depending on your perspective, certain things may be indoctrinated into students, things like—for example, in the United States, textbooks are rejected by some states for not having enough examples of American exceptionalism—indoctrinating people to a form of nationalism. Whether that’s a good idea or not is up to the school boards in the country. But that is what the education system is designed for; it is designed to create obedient workers. It worked very well in the early 20th century.

    We are not in the early 20th century anymore. It’s 100 years later. So the question now is, “Does the current education system serve students and provide good outputs for them to succeed in today’s world?” That is a whole other topic for debate. However, the term paper—which is our focus—and the use of generative AI—the term paper is a form of writing. However, most generative AI tools can do a better job than students can at writing on the same topic, sufficiently well-prompted.

    So, a better question is, “How would you use generative AI to do a better job than just having someone spit out and regurgitate knowledge?” Dr. Lisa Palmer wrote on LinkedIn not too long ago—I thought it was a very useful piece—not saying, “Instead of trying to catch student cheating, have them turn in their entire threaded conversation with AI.” Think about showing your work, like you would with math problems, and assess their critical thought process. Did they build thoughtful problems demonstrating curiosity and truly collaborating with their AI colleague? Partial credit with thoughtful feedback from their instructors will create a much deeper learning experience than correcting a student who struggles with grammar. This is a good take.

    This is a good take because the process that you need to use to get great output out of generative AI is thinking. You have to sit there and think. Now, if you just write a prompt like, “Write a justification for the Supreme Court and how it impacts the economy,” that’s a lazy prompt. That shows no research. That shows no thinking. And you can grade that. You can grade a prompt or a methodology. You can say what you really did as little as possible.

    In part four, we’re going to actually go through the process of how you would build a modern term paper—a term paper of the future, if you will—but for right now, I think it’s worth saying that the process of using generative AI itself demonstrates thinking: how well you prepare; how well you know the tool itself; how well you know how to write prompts; how well you know how to get good output out of the computer; and understanding what good output does and does not look like. At Framingham State University, which is a university near my house, the senior seminar in psychology—the psychology department chair has students intentionally write papers with ChatGPT, and then they critique the papers that ChatGPT spits out. They say what it got wrong, what it overlooked, what is factually incorrect. Again, this encourages students not only to be critical thinkers in general, but especially to be critical thinkers of the machines and say, “Hey, machine, here’s what you got wrong.” So, a very useful set of exercises.

    So, wrapping up part two: the point of writing term papers is to help a student learn to think and then for them to demonstrate their thinking, and there are other ways of doing that. The term paper is a relic of an older education system—an industrialized education system—for an economy that doesn’t exist anymore. If we want to advance our students and get them to be capable workers in the modern economy, instead of banning AI, we should be encouraging them to use it, to grade their efforts with AI as a partner—grading their prompts, grading their thinking, their depth of research, their original points of view—not whether or not they’ve physically typed out the words on paper.

    That’s going to do it for part two. In the next part, we’re going to put some AI detectors to the test, so stay tuned for that. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live! Thank you.

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    What’s On My Mind: Advanced Prompt Engineering for Generative AI

    After last week’s newsletter covering intermediate prompt engineering, a half dozen of you or so emailed back to ask what advanced prompt engineering looks like, and in at least one person’s case, a deep burning desire to see it.

    Well, be careful what you ask for.

    Advanced prompt engineering tends to go in one of two directions: scale and complexity. So, with that understanding, let’s go down the rabbit hole of advanced prompt engineering.

    Part 1: What is “Advanced”?

    Advanced doesn’t mean better. Let’s start with that. Advanced means you’re facing problems and tasks that you can’t solve simply.

    Generally speaking, simple is better than complex. Solving a problem simply tends to mean it’s more straightforward to solve, maintain the solution, and repair the solution if it goes awry. The more complex something is, the more likely it is to break in different ways, and the more brittle the solution.

    This is a problem I often see in the martial arts. Folks want to do “black belt techniques”, not realizing that black belt techniques aren’t better. They’re not faster at solving the problem. They’re for when everything has gone to hell and your bread and butter tools don’t work. Mastery and expertise in the martial arts is more typified by being able to do the basics really well, under a lot of pressure, and in a wide, wild variety of circumstances. The more complex a technique is, the more ways it can go wrong, especially under pressure.

    (Cue all the martial artists like me who, a dozen years after their white belt, are disappointed that being a black belt isn’t nearly as cool as we imagined it being)

    The same is true in AI and prompt engineering. If you look at some of the academic papers on prompt engineering, many of the more “advanced” techniques are edge case techniques that have very limited application outside a specific type of problem. Take this paper on Program of Thoughts prompting – the specific domain use is solving mathematical problems by combining non-running code generation with chain of thought prompting (which we covered in last week’s newsletter).

    This technique has very little use in most domains of generative AI. It’s for handling edge cases in mathematical word problems. Is it advanced? I suppose so, in that it’s not something a beginner needs to know to be effective with AI. Even an intermediate user would have very little use for this most of the time.

    If you want to be advanced in your use of prompt engineering in generative AI, get really, really good at the basics in a wide variety of contexts. Maybe that’s a topic for a future newsletter, what the modern basics are.

    Part 2: Scaling Prompts

    So with that perspective, let’s look at one of two branches of more advanced prompt engineering. The first is scaling prompts. Very often, we can write a prompt to do a specific task very well, like sentiment analysis or topic classification. For example, we might write a prompt to classify a blog post based on what topic or category it fits in, given a list of existing categories. Our prompt might look a little like this:

    ## System Instructions for Google Gemini: Blog Post Categorization

**Objective:**

You are tasked with analyzing a given blog post and accurately categorizing it into one of the following predefined categories:

* **Cats:** Content primarily focused on felines, their behavior, care, breeds, etc.
* **Dogs:** Content primarily focused on canines, their behavior, care, breeds, etc.
* **AI:** Content primarily focused on artificial intelligence, machine learning, deep learning, and related topics.
* **Ranting:** Content expressing strong opinions, complaints, or frustrations, often with an emotional tone.
* **Math:** Content focused on mathematical concepts, equations, theorems, or problem-solving.
* **Marketing:** Content related to advertising, branding, sales, promotion, and marketing strategies.

**Input:**

You will receive a single input: a blog post in plain text format.

**Output:**

Your output should be a JSON object with the following structure:

json
{
  "category": "CATEGORY_NAME"
}

where "CATEGORY_NAME" is replaced with the appropriate category from the list above.

**Methodology:**

To achieve accurate categorization, employ the following strategies:

1. **Keyword Analysis:** Identify keywords and phrases within the blog post that are strongly indicative of each category. For example, words like "meow," "litter box," and "feline" might suggest the "Cats" category.

2. **Topic Modeling:** Utilize your understanding of language and context to discern the overarching theme or subject matter of the blog post.

3. **Sentiment Analysis:** Analyze the emotional tone of the blog post. Rants typically exhibit strong negative sentiment, while marketing content might be more positive and persuasive.

4. **Structural Clues:** Pay attention to the blog post's structure, headings, and subheadings. These can provide insights into the content's focus.

5. **Contextual Understanding:** Consider the relationships between words and sentences to grasp the blog post's overall meaning and intent.

    It’s important to note that this prompt is optimized for the Gemma 2 27B model – you shouldn’t copy/paste it into other systems, it won’t work as well.

    That’s an effective prompt, but a blog is not just one post. A blog is dozens, hundreds, or perhaps even thousands of posts. Can you use generative AI to classify them all?

    Not all at once, no. At least not with any reliability. You need to hand each blog post to generative AI and have it classify it, then store the results.

    And that means coding, typically in a language like Python or R or Ruby or any other modern computer language. You need infrastructure around your prompt to get the blog posts, to hand each post to the generative AI model one at a time, and then to store the results. That’s outside the scope of generative AI and well within the domain of traditional programming.

    Now, generative AI can still be helpful, by helping you write the code to do so – but this is what I mean by advanced prompt engineering, taking our basic prompt and deploying it at scale. Things like looped tasks, data storage, etc. Are all well outside the domain of generative AI but are essential for solving the task at hand.

    Part of the reason why AI isn’t showing the promised benefits at many companies is because it’s not being used at scale. People are using it very manually – I talked to one group of people at a conference this fall who are having team members manually copying and pasting content in and out of ChatGPT. That works, but it’s incredibly inefficient. Code would allow that process to be automated, to scale.

    Scale is how we derive benefit from AI – taking problems and solving them not only faster, but in vastly greater quantities. The challenge for people seeking to become advanced AI practitioners is that scaling requires skills outside AI.

    By the way, as we talked about not too long ago, AI agents/agentic AI is just a fancy term for building apps around AI. Be cautious of AI point solutions – companies that are little more than wrappers around AI. As you level up your AI skills and start learning how to provide the infrastructure needed to scale AI, you will find that you don’t need to invest heavily in many AI agents and apps, not when you can roll your own.

    Part 3: More Complex Prompts

    Now, let’s move onto prompt complexity. Another aspect of advanced prompt engineering is knowing how to build more complex prompts, for when simple prompts can’t get the job done. There are three specific techniques to look at: code structures, reflection and reward functions, and model adaptive prompt optimization.

    Code Structures

    Code structures are when we use coding techniques within prompts. Not writing code itself, but using concepts borrowed from coding. Why? Because generative AI systems – language models in particular – have been trained on both the written word and code. They are fluent in interpreting the written word as code, and vice versa, which means that control structures from coding are executed as though they are code, even if they’re written in plain language.

    Here’s a very simple example, a toy example. Note that I am intentionally omitting key best practices here such as the Trust Insights RACE framework and priming the model with the Trust Insights PARE framework:

    IF this tweet is factually untrue
    THEN write a response telling the author how the tweet is untrue and citing a source of truth
ELSE write a response thanking the author for their contribution

    That would not run in any coding language in the world, but it absolutely will be executed by a large language model as though it were code. And you and I can read it clearly and easily, understanding its intent.

    Code structures are fantastic in generative AI prompt engineering because they allow us to formalize the kinds of decisions we want language models to make as they process our data and follow our instructions. Think of just the basic control structures we know from coding:

    • If/else: a primitive decision tree, if this, then that
    • While: until a condition is met, keep doing a thing
    • For: given a certain set of conditions, keep doing a thing for the duration of those conditions
    • Case/when: a more advanced decision tree with multiple options and outcomes

    Why does this matter? Using code structures in our prompts makes our intentions clear to the language model and to ourselves. They’re easily readable, easily understood, and easily modified even by people with no experience coding. You use code structures when you need sophisticated decision-making in a prompt.

    Reflection and Reward Structures

    Much was made of OpenAI’s announced o1-preview model and how it’s supposedly the future of AI. At its core, o1 bakes in two key mechanisms: reflection and reward.

    Reflection is when we ask a model to think about what it’s generated and evaluate whether or not what it’s done meets the goals of our prompt.

    Reward is when we have a model keep score to know whether or not it’s getting closer to the goal or further away.

    If we think about the average sports game like baseball or football, we see these two mechanisms all the time. After a period of time like an inning or a quarter, the coach talks to the players, reflecting on what worked and didn’t work in that time period. The score on the scoreboard indicates pretty clearly how well or poorly the players’ efforts are working; if the team is losing, the coach knows they need to change strategies (as long as the coach is decent at what they do).

    Here’s the thing: OpenAI’s implementation is not unique. You can perform the same set of tasks with prompts on pretty much any capable foundation model – Anthropic’s Claude, OpenAI’s GPT-4o, and Google’s Gemini. What makes the o1 model notable is that you aren’t given a choice – it does this set of tasks for you. That’s good if you’ve got someone used to writing poor, insufficient prompts.

    So what does a reflection and reward structure look like? Let’s take our toy example from earlier and upgrade it.

    We define a truthful statement as one that accurately reflects reality or facts as they are currently understood, without any intention to deceive.

1. Read the provided tweet.
2. Think through, step by step, how truthful the tweet is.
3. Score, 0-10, how truthful the tweet is based on our definition.
4. Reflect on your evaluation. Evaluate each part from step 2.
5. Make a judgement on the truthfulness of the tweet.

CASE:
- WHEN the score is 0-3, the tweet is untruthful.
- WHEN the score is 4-6, the tweet is somewhat untruthful.
- WHEN the score is 7-10, the tweet is truthful.

Reflect on your judgement. How accurate do you believe your judgement to be? Score your judgement 0-10.

WHILE your judgement score is less than 8, restart the process of scoring the truthfulness of the tweet.

Once your judgement score is >= 8:

IF this tweet is untruthful
    THEN write a response telling the author how the tweet is untrue and citing a source of truth
ELSEIF this tweet is somewhat untruthful
    THEN write a response telling the author what additional sources they should investigate
ELSE write a response thanking the author for their contribution

    Again, this is omitting a number of best practices for brevity, otherwise this newsletter would be dozens of pages long. You can see how we use reflection and rewards within a prompt – and use code structures to further make explicit what it is we want the machine to be doing.

    Why does this matter? Reflection and reward structures are a part of prompt engineering called meta-cognition – thinking about thinking. The more time and room a model is allowed to have to think things through, the better its performance tends to be. This is because of the probabilistic nature of language models – the more relevant words in a conversation, the easier it is for it to predict the next set of relevant words. Reflection and reward structures give it the ability to be verbose in a focused way – and change strategies when the words it’s outputting aren’t as aligned with the instructions.

    Using reflection and reward structures properly can dramatically improve a model’s performance – so much so that OpenAI built an entire model with these practices built-in.

    Model Adaptive Prompt Optimization

    The third and final advanced prompt engineering technique for today is model adaptive prompt optimization. This is fancy for tailoring prompts to specific models, in ways they work best for those models. This becomes critically important once you start using open models and local AI, where the models are typically smaller and less capable than the big foundation models. Open models do run on consumer hardware, though, and are ideal for when you’re working with highly sensitive data that can’t be in third party hands for any reason (such as protected health information, national security, financial secrets, etc.).

    Model adaptive prompt optimization is a type of meta-prompting, where we have a model rewrite a prompt that works best for it. If we take our toy example above and ask different systems to customize it for them, we’ll end up with wildly different prompts depending on the model – but each prompt will be optimized for how that particular model works.

    As an example, ChatGPT would rewrite our prompt like this:

    If we use an open models like Mistral Small, running inside Koboldcpp, it rewrites the prompt like this:

    You can see what a huge difference there is between these two systems and models – and how a starting prompt can be optimized for a specific infrastructure.

    We covered this in last week’s newsletter as an intermediate technique, and when you use it like this – manually – it absolutely is. But this is the starting version.

    For very small models that don’t have meta-prompting skills (typically models under 10 billion parameters), or absolutely mission critical prompts where there’s no room for error, there are frameworks like DSpy that can do the prompt optimization programmatically, assuming you have a stockpile of good and bad questions and responses to train with.

    You load up the framework with your training data, point it at the model of your choice, and then it tries pretty much every variation of prompt to get to the outcomes you provided, tweaking the prompt programmatically and automatically. This process can take hours or even days, depending on the complexity of it, and can be exceptionally costly (because you’re basically trying every variation possible of a prompt), but for edge cases where the model’s output must be reliably in a certain format or output 99.9% of the time, this is how you approach it.

    Why does this matter? Advanced prompt engineering is all about solving problems that our basic skills couldn’t. Maybe we couldn’t get a model to do exactly what we wanted, or return data in exactly the format we asked for, like JSON notation. To mitigate these problems, we use techniques like model adaptive prompt optimization to get exactly the result we need in mission critical scenarios.

    Part 4: Do You Need to be Advanced?

    Let’s wrap up by answering this question: how advanced do you need to be in your prompt engineering skills? The answer to this question will vary wildly and be dependent on the kinds of problems you’re having today. If you’re accomplishing everything you want and achieving the results you need to achieve, then you probably don’t have a need for advanced techniques.

    Think of it like transportation. The bigger and more powerful the vehicle, the more complex and expensive it is to operate. Walking is free. Riding a bicycle has some costs, but they’re relatively low and a bicycle extends your range. A car is much more powerful, but much more expensive, and a Harrier jet is absurdly expensive but powerful.

    What do you need to go to the grocery store? If you live in a big city with great public transit, you can probably manage with your feet alone. You may not even have a place to park a car, and you certainly won’t be keeping a Harrier on your apartment rooftop. Likewise, if you live in northern Sweden or in the middle of Australia, a Harrier (well, a plane) might be a reasonable means of transportation because it’s hundreds of kilometers to the nearest town.

    The same is true of AI models and solutions. Fit the tools and technologies to the problems you’re solving. You don’t need reflection and reward structures to summarize an email, unless the email is some bizarre edge case. You don’t need a big foundation model like ChatGPT to draft a memo. You certainly don’t need to spend hours and hours optimizing a prompt for an unimportant task you’ll do once.

    Using advanced prompt engineering techniques just for the sake of using advanced techniques is usually rooted in ego, in the same way that an egotistical stage magician makes tricks unnecessarily complicated and flashy to impress other magicians. Instead, get really good at the basics, and then grow your skills from the specific problems you’re trying to solve that the basics don’t help with.

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    You Ask, I Answer: What To Do With Conference Materials?

    In today’s episode, you’ll learn how to finally get value from those conference recordings and slide decks you never seem to get around to using. Discover how to leverage the power of AI to synthesize information from conference materials, tailoring them specifically to your business needs and goals. You’ll see a practical example using generative AI to extract actionable insights and prioritize areas for improvement based on your company profile and ideal customer profile. Stop letting valuable conference knowledge go to waste—watch now and unlock its potential!

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    In today’s episode, I’ll answer the question: Do people actually do anything with conference materials—slides, on-demand content, recordings? This is a great question because often, we download materials, thinking we’ll use them later, but we don’t. We download them, store them—maybe print them, putting them in a binder or on a hard drive—and then nothing happens. It’s a shame because we’re not using the knowledge we paid for.

    So, how do we use this knowledge effectively? The answer is to use artificial intelligence. If you create a mega-prompt detailing your company, your ideal customer profile (ICP), etc., you can give an AI tool (like Gemini, Claude, or ChatGPT) the conference materials and ask, “How does this apply to me? How can I make this work?”

    Let’s look at an example using Google’s Gemini. You can use any tool; I’m using Gemini because I’m comfortable with it. I’ll give the tool information about my company and my ICP. Then, I’ll give it slides from a Marketing AI Conference talk and ask: “Based on my company profile and ICP, create an outline of the most relevant parts of this talk for my marketing and AI efforts.”

    Let’s pick a slide deck—Lisa Adams’s “Three Practical AI Use Cases.” This is a 24,000-token presentation (about 18,000 words). The title itself—”Practical Use Cases for Insight-Driven Content”—aligns with our core offering: actionable insights from data. This presentation covers content strategy, targeting, segmentation, data integration, AI search, analyzing AI responses, and more.

    Next, I’ll tell Gemini: “Assume I’m doing all the basic marketing practices of a good B2B management consulting firm and I’m an advanced user of generative AI (prompt management, optimization, custom code, model tuning, RAG, etc.). I have an extensive practice for building ICPs and use generative AI for content, competitive, and marketing strategy. Based on this, revisit Adams’ session takeaways and rank them by revenue impact.”

    This lets me have a conversation with the slides and the talk. If I had the audio or transcript, I could include that too. I’m having a follow-up conversation with the session.

    High-impact, high-priority items (like custom GPTs and client-specific AI-driven content strategy) are already things we’re doing. Gemini then helps me identify areas we could improve—things like an automated content repurposing and distribution system, or an AI-powered influence marketing platform.

    This approach lets you synthetically converse with any speaker whose conference materials you have. This is the power of using AI to harness existing data. You paid for this information; use it. The best part is, it takes minimal time. You’ll need to create the initial prompt (who your company is, priorities, ICP), but after that, you can feed it any talk and ask, “Tell me what I should know.” You’ll get better at getting good information, including takeaways that might not have even been explicitly discussed in the session.

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    Mind Readings: Generative AI Backup Plans

    In today’s episode, you’ll learn about the importance of having backup plans for your generative AI tools. You’ll discover why relying solely on leading AI platforms might be risky, and how to prepare for unexpected shutdowns or service disruptions. You’ll gain valuable insights into creating a robust backup strategy, including exploring open-source alternatives and building your own AI solutions. Don’t get caught off guard—watch now to safeguard your AI workflows!

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about your generative AI backup plans. Today’s market leader, like OpenAI, could be tomorrow’s Google Reader. For those unfamiliar with the reference, there was once an amazing blog-reading software platform service from Google—it was free, called Google Reader. It was fast, convenient, and free. And, as Google often does, one day they just turned it off. This left a massive gap in the marketplace that no company has ever really successfully filled, although many worthy companies provide similar functionality, such as Feedly. But Google Reader’s absence is notable because of its utility—it was really good software—and because of its transient nature—here today, gone tomorrow.

    Now, to be clear, we weren’t paying for it, and you get what you pay for. But this is one in a long legacy of Google products—like Kasa and Orkut—that just vanish. And it’s not just Google; tens of thousands of software companies have dried up. This lesson—the transient nature of companies and services—is critical for anyone working in AI today with tools, software, services, and models. AI today is in its infancy. The thousands of AI companies popping up are probably not going to have staying power. Some will run out of runway and close up shop because AI is expensive to provide. You can only be a loss leader for so long before you run out of investor funds. Others will be acquired and then gutted, as Google and many other tech companies have done. They buy the IP, maybe the staff, and then decide they didn’t really want the company—they just wanted the people developing it.

    In AI, there’s a very high probability of this happening because many companies are simply a wrapper, a UI on top of someone else’s model. And that gets expensive. If an AI app, service, or platform leaves the testing phase and becomes part of your business, your standard operating procedures, or your value proposition, you owe it to yourself and your organization to have alternatives. If ChatGPT or OpenAI runs out of money, or Google Gemini is shut down, or Anthropic closes up shop—what would you do for generative AI and large language models tomorrow? What if you integrated generative AI into your standard operating procedures and they announced they were going out of business on Friday? What would you do Monday morning? If tools like Dolly, Midjourney, or Meta’s image generator went offline today, what would you use to create imagery tomorrow? There are options, but do you know what those options are? Have you tested them? Are you ready?

    This is why local AI models and tools are essential. Having models you download and run on your own hardware is your insurance policy. When you see a cool new AI service, ask yourself, “Can I build that myself? Can I create my own version?” Everyone is fawning over Google’s free NotebookLM software—the software where you upload documents and it can create study guides, FAQs, and audio podcasts with simulated AI-generated voices. It’s a good tool; it’s useful; it’s raglocked (retrieval augmented generation)—it will not give you answers if you don’t provide the data. It’s terrific. It’s free. It’s from Google. What is the probability that Google says it’s too expensive to operate and turns it off? There’s a lot of precedent for Google to do that. If Google did that, what would you use to replace it? If you’re using this tool, or even building a business around it, what would you use to replace it? Do you know about the dozen open-source projects that exist to replicate part or all of its functionality? Do you know how to use a tool like ChatGPT or Claude to code your own version—something so totally yours that no one can take it away? Could you set that up?

    I am a big advocate of having a backup plan for any mission-critical service or technology. This has never been more true than in artificial intelligence. As AI matures and the market changes, you’ll want to have those backups ready. When the worst inevitably happens—as the expression from World of Warcraft goes, “no king rules forever”—you’re ready and you don’t miss a step. You’re like, “Oh, ChatGPT is gone? I’ll just open up any LLM, turn on Llama 70B, and we’re good to go.” You want to be at a point where if your utility of choice shuts down, it’s not a problem. You just keep on trucking; you execute your backup plan.

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    What’s On My Mind: Intermediate Prompt Engineering for Generative AI

    This week, let’s explore some more prompt engineering concepts, maybe at an intermediate level.

    If you recall, I’ve said for a while that prompt engineering is essentially programming. Instead of programming in Python or Java, we program in English or Ukrainian or Danish.

    However, that means we’re still programming, at least if we want to maximize the outcomes we get from generative AI. We’re still writing instructions in a structured manner to achieve a repeatable, reliable end result.

    If we understand this fundamental concept, that we are programming when we are using generative AI, we will be far more successful and impactful with the technology. This week, let’s look at chain of thought prompting and frameworks.

    Part 1: Chains of Thought

    When we look at the variety of academic papers about achieving good results with prompt engineering, of the 50 or so prompt engineering techniques, more than half of them fall under the broad umbrella of chain of thought. Chain of thought prompts are little more than step by step instructions, in a couple of broad varieties:

    1. Manual chain of thought prompts are where we tell the AI what to do, step by step.
    2. Automated chain of thought prompts are where the AI assembles or manages its own prompts.

    Here’s an example of a simple chain of thought prompt, written by me:

    You are an expert in writing country song lyrics. You know pop country, country music, song writing, song lyric construction. Today you'll be writing lyrics for a country song.

Here are the steps for writing a song with country music lyrics:

1. Concept: what's the main theme of the song?
2. Story: what's the story the song tells?
3. Setting: where is the song set?
4. Characters: who is featured in the song?
5. Emotions: what emotions are highlighted in the song?
6. Structure: what is the song's structure?
7. Rhyme and meter: what kind of rhyme scheme and meter does the song use?

    You can see in a manual chain of thought prompt that we spell out step by step what the instructions are. It’s a recipe, a set of directions for the model to follow.

    Part 2: Automated Chain of Thought

    Automated chain of thought is even simpler. Starting with the first paragraph of our existing prompt, if we use the Trust Insights RACE Framework for prompt engineering as the starting point, we can have AI do the heavy lifting for us. Here’s the human prompt now:

    You're a prompt engineering expert in generative AI. You know prompt construction, prompt engineering, and prompt optimization. You are familiar with prompt engineering techniques such as chain of thought, few shot, zero shot, tree of thought, and other prompting techniques.

Convert the following prompt into a chain of thought prompt:

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You are an expert in writing country song lyrics. You know pop country, country music, song writing, song lyric construction. Today you'll be writing lyrics for a country song. What are the steps necessary to write a compelling country song's lyrics?
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Write the prompt as chain of thought.

    What does the model return? It depends on the model.

    Google Gemini returns:

    **Chain-of-Thought Prompt:**

You are an expert in writing country song lyrics. You know pop country, country music, song writing, and song lyric construction. Today you'll be writing lyrics for a country song. 

To write compelling country song lyrics, consider the following steps:

1. **What are the common themes or topics explored in country music?**  (Think about love, loss, heartbreak, rural life, family, faith, etc.)
2. **How can I choose a theme that resonates with me and will connect with listeners?** (Consider personal experiences, current events, or timeless human emotions.)
3. **What are some storytelling techniques I can use to craft a narrative within my lyrics?** (Think about vivid imagery, relatable characters, and a clear beginning, middle, and end.) 
4. **How can I incorporate traditional country music elements into my lyrics?** (Consider using a simple rhyme scheme, strong rhythms, and familiar country instrumentation in mind.)
5. **How can I ensure my lyrics are authentic and emotionally honest?** (Draw from personal experiences, observations, and genuine feelings.)

Now, using these steps as a guide, what are the steps necessary to write a compelling country song's lyrics?

    ChatGPT GPT-4o returns:

    You are an expert in writing country song lyrics, well-versed in pop country and traditional country music. You understand the nuances of songwriting and lyric construction, from capturing emotions to building a story.

Let’s break down the process of writing compelling country song lyrics step by step:

Identify the Theme: Start by choosing a theme or subject. Country songs often revolve around themes like love, heartbreak, small-town life, nostalgia, or overcoming hardship. What specific theme or story will this song convey?

Set the Tone and Mood: Determine the tone of the song. Is it upbeat, melancholic, reflective, or rebellious? The tone will influence the choice of words, melody, and rhythm.

Create a Character or Narrator: Many country songs have a strong narrative voice. Who is telling the story in this song? Is it first-person or third-person? Are they recalling an experience or narrating an event?

Craft a Hook or Chorus: The chorus is the heart of the song. Think about a catchy, relatable hook that resonates with the theme. What is the central message or emotion the listener should take away from the song?

Build the Verses: Start constructing the verses by detailing the story or expanding on the theme. Each verse should contribute to the progression of the song, offering vivid imagery or deeper emotional context. How will the story unfold from verse to verse?

Add a Bridge (Optional): A bridge often introduces a twist or a different perspective. How can you introduce a new element or emotion at this point in the song?

Refine the Lyrics: Go over the lyrics to make sure they flow well with the melody, rhythm, and tone. Are there any lines that can be more vivid, emotional, or concise?

Think through each of these steps carefully, and now, based on this process, write the lyrics for a compelling country song.

    Claude Sonnet 3.5 returns:

    Here's the prompt converted into a chain-of-thought format:

You are an expert in writing country song lyrics. You know pop country, country music, song writing, and song lyric construction. Today you'll be writing lyrics for a country song. To create compelling country song lyrics, think through the following steps:

1. Theme selection:
   - What are common themes in country music?
   - Which theme resonates most with current country music trends?
   - How can I choose a relatable yet unique angle on this theme?

2. Story development:
   - What's the narrative arc for this song?
   - Who are the main characters?
   - What's the setting?
   - What conflict or emotion drives the story?

3. Hook creation:
   - What's a catchy, memorable phrase that encapsulates the song's essence?
   - How can I make this hook both lyrically and melodically appealing?

4. Verse construction:
   - How do I introduce the story and characters in the first verse?
   - What details can I include to make the story vivid and relatable?
   - How do I build tension or emotion as the verses progress?

5. Chorus crafting:
   - How does the chorus reinforce the main theme?
   - How can I make it emotionally resonant and singable?
   - What imagery or phrases will stick in listeners' minds?

6. Bridge development:
   - How can the bridge provide a new perspective or twist on the theme?
   - What emotional climax can I build towards?

7. Language and imagery:
   - What country-specific vocabulary or idioms can I incorporate?
   - How can I use vivid, sensory details to bring the story to life?
   - What metaphors or similes would enhance the lyrics without being cliché?

8. Structure and flow:
   - How should I arrange the verses, chorus, and bridge for maximum impact?
   - How can I ensure smooth transitions between sections?

9. Emotional resonance:
   - How can I make the lyrics genuinely moving or relatable?
   - What universal emotions or experiences can I tap into?

10. Polish and refine:
    - Are there any words or phrases that could be stronger or more authentic?
    - Does the song have a satisfying resolution or ending?
    - How well do the lyrics fit with typical country music rhythms and cadences?

Now, considering these steps, let's begin crafting compelling country song lyrics. What theme shall we explore first?

    We see each model comes back with something that’s optimized for its architecture and knowledge.

    It’s important to note here that each prompt optimization is optimized for that specific model. You can use any of these prompts in any of the other models and will probably get good results, but you’ll get the best results by using the prompt generated by a model with that same model.

    Part 3: Frameworks

    Now, let’s do the big unlock for you. What is a framework?

    When I say framework, I don’t mean in prompt engineering and AI. I mean in your business. In marketing. In finance. In HR.

    For example, here are some popular B-school frameworks:

    • SWOT analysis: strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats
    • Porter’s Five Forces: threat of substitute products, bargaining power of buyers, bargaining power of suppliers, threat of entry, power of suppliers
    • PEST analysis: political, economic, social, and technological factors influencing business
    • BCG Growth Share matrix: cash cows, dogs, problem children, stars

    What are these all?

    Yes. You guessed it. They’re all chains of thought. They’re all step by step processes to reach a set of conclusions.

    Which means… you can use either manual or automated chain of thought prompting to use AI in this kind of work, in this kind of thinking.

    Let’s look at an example, using the venerable SWOT analysis. First, using the Trust Insights PARE framework, we should prime the model to get an understanding of what it thinks SWOT analysis is:

    You're an expert management consultant, the likes of a person who works at McKinsey, Bain, or BCG. You know management consulting, corporate strategy, business strategy, strategic planning. First, what do you know about SWOT analysis? After you list out your knowledge, explain what you believe the strengths and weaknesses are. Finally, explain what expert tips and tricks you know about SWOT analysis that you didn't already cover. Return your explanation in outline form.

    When we use this prompt, we’ll get a long, long list of output from most models. We should carefully inspect these results and provide any necessary corrections in its knowledge.

    From there, we could ask the model to convert it to a chain of thought prompt, something like this:

    Using everything we've discussed so far about SWOT analysis, convert it into a prompt for use with generative AI and large language models. Specifically, in prompt engineering, build a chain of thought prompt. The purpose of the prompt is to conduct a SWOT analysis. The user will upload relevant information about a company and its competitors. From that information, you'll conduct a SWOT analysis and return the results in an outline, with Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, and Threats as major headings in the outline. Create the chain of thought prompt:

    What do we get? I’ll spare you the endless scrolling of the model outputs here, but suffice it to say any frontier/foundation model like the ones I highlighted earlier should give you a decent result.

    That’s pretty useful, right? All those frameworks you learned in business school can be given a new lease on life by relying on their true nature as a set of instructions, a recipe. With the help of generative AI, we can turn them from passive concepts in a slide deck to active processes, recipes we can use.

    Part 4: The Big Unlock

    Here’s the really big unlock. Everyone and their cousin knows the big public frameworks like SWOT and Porter’s Five Forces. If we want to stand out in generative AI, we shouldn’t just use what everyone else is using, shouldn’t just do what everyone else is doing.

    No, the winners in AI – something I say in my keynote talks all the time (now booking for 2025) is: whoever has the most, best ideas will win in the age of AI.

    Whoever has the most, best ideas will win in the age of AI.

    Everyone has SWOT and PEST. Not everyone has your frameworks, your processes, the special way you do things that you’ve found in your own work. What frameworks do you have that are unique, that are different, that you could take out of your playbook and turn into an app using generative AI?

    Years and years ago, I told you that you needed to put together your Golden Cookbook, the compendium of strategies, tactics, frameworks, and processes that you’ve built in your career. Mine’s up to 281 pages now, years later. How is yours coming along?

    Suppose I took my four models of media monetization framework I built in 2022 to help businesses monetize their audiences better. Right now, that’s a slide. If I narrated my explanation of it and gave it to AI to turn into a chain of thought prompt, I’d have a killer prompt that, with the right data from a company, could give you a rock solid monetization strategy.

    That’s the big unlock. That’s what AI can do for you, with you – to take your unique knowledge, your unique processes and ideas, the things you’ve built in your career, and convert them from knowledge into action, into recipes you can use to create real results. With the processes I’ve shown you in this newsletter, you can now get away from simple, cheesy, commonplace, ineffective prompts into real, meaty, unique prompts that no one else has. You’ll turn those prompts into apps using tools like Google Gems or Custom GPTs or Artifacts, and you’ll create value at scale with AI from the knowledge you uniquely bring to the table.

    Whoever has the most, best ideas will win in the age of AI – and chances are, you’re sitting on a ton of ideas you’ve built. Time to unlock the value of your unique knowledge.

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  • Mind Readings: Scale vs. Quality in the AI Content Marketing World

    Mind Readings: Scale vs. Quality in the AI Content Marketing World

    In today’s episode, you’ll learn why the belief that human-created content is always superior to AI-generated content is a myth. You’ll discover how, beyond a certain quality threshold, scale becomes the dominant factor in content marketing success. We’ll explore the balance between quality and scale, using real-world examples like McDonald’s and Walmart to illustrate the power of consistency and reach. Finally, you’ll learn why ignoring AI’s potential to scale your content production puts you at a significant disadvantage in today’s competitive landscape.

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    In today’s episode, let’s discuss recent LinkedIn discussions among marketers who are very anti-AI, especially regarding content generation. They believe human-led content is superior and will always be, claiming machines will never rival human creativity. This is untrue.

    Last fall, the MIT Sloan School of Management conducted a test showing labeled and unlabeled content (some AI-generated, some human-generated) to different groups. When people didn’t know the content’s origin, they preferred AI-written content for both cause and performance marketing. When told the source, they ranked human and AI equally.

    Why is the belief that “quality always wins” and human-led content is best not true? Because after a certain point, scale wins. After achieving a minimum quality level, scale becomes the deciding factor.

    Consider the real world. Have you ever had a truly amazing burger? Was it at McDonald’s? Probably not. McDonald’s isn’t the best burger, but it offers consistent minimum quality, good pricing, and massive scale. You get a similar Big Mac anywhere in the world. That’s the value of scale—consistent minimum quality.

    Is Walmart the highest-quality shopping experience? No. But it has scale, enabling cost savings. The shopping experience is what it is, but it’s not bespoke.

    Consider content: Is TikTok, YouTube, or BuzzFeed content the pinnacle of quality or authentically human-led? No, it’s about scale—getting people what they want at a minimum quality level and low cost, consistently.

    Marketers resistant to AI are making a choice. If you want artisanal, handcrafted content, that’s fine. But if you need to be productive and scale, not using AI puts you at a disadvantage compared to marketers scaling production with AI.

    Andy Crestodina’s 2024 content marketing report (14 years running) shows 80% of marketers use AI for some content generation. If you’re not in that 80%, you’re fighting with one hand tied behind your back. Today’s content marketplaces prioritize scale—who can create the most content, even if it’s not the best. Your content doesn’t have to be the best; it just has to scale.

    Will AI create a sea of sameness? Yes, but that’s nothing new. We’ve outsourced to content farms and low-cost labor markets for decades; now we use machines instead.

    Should you abandon quality? No, mediocrity isn’t a good goal, but balance it with scale. Imagine you have 100 pennies and two mugs: quality and scale. If you put all your pennies in the quality mug, you’ll be trounced by competitors because today’s content marketplaces value quantity. Every content distribution system (YouTube, LinkedIn, TikTok, etc.) relies on new content to show ads alongside. They reward new content, incentivizing more content. If you’re all in on quality, you’re done. Conversely, all pennies in scale creates garbage that won’t get views.

    You must find a balance—whether it’s 50/50, 60/40, or 30/70—between quality and scale, depending on your KPIs and goals. One hundred pennies in one mug isn’t the answer anymore. If you’re completely resistant to AI, you’re going to have a bad time. The path to continued success in content marketing is using AI to scale. Should you use it for everything? No. Could you use it for some things? Yes. Figure out what those things are, and figure it out soon. That’s it for today’s episode. Thanks for tuning in. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button, subscribe, and hit the bell button for notifications. Thank you.

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  • Mind Readings: AI Detectors Are a Joke

    Mind Readings: AI Detectors Are a Joke

    In today’s episode, you’ll discover why AI detectors are essentially useless, and how their flawed methodology leads to inaccurate and potentially damaging results. You’ll learn about the limitations of these tools and see a real-world example of how they fail spectacularly, even with historical documents. You’ll gain insights into why focusing on critical thinking skills is far more valuable than relying on unreliable technology. Finally, you’ll be equipped with the knowledge to challenge the misuse of AI detectors in education and hiring.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about AI detectors and AI detection. Let’s bring up the most advanced and reliable ChatGPT predictor in the world—according to their own marketing. Let’s put in some text and see how well it detects AI. Remember, this isn’t a plagiarism detector; it’s an AI detector. Was this text generated by AI? Plagiarism is different. Let’s detect the text.

    96% AI generated. Wow. That’s incredible. What’s the text? The Declaration of Independence—written 246 years before ChatGPT. AI detectors are a joke. They’re garbage. Their accuracy is less than a coin flip. This is a very confident assessment from the self-proclaimed most advanced and reliable AI detector on the market—246 years before ChatGPT existed. I put in a document we know was human-written. Now, either space aliens, Skynet, or someone sent a Terminator back in time to write the Declaration, or this thing is just broken. It is just broken.

    Why does this happen? Why are we getting this result? A couple of reasons. First, AI detectors—most on the market—use a relatively small number of metrics, two of which are well-known: perplexity and burstiness. These metrics judge whether a document is AI-generated. Perplexity is the variance in language; more variety means the tool is less likely to think your text is AI-written. Burstiness considers things like line and paragraph length—if everything is evenly spaced, the tool thinks it’s AI-generated.

    Why would it think the Declaration of Independence—obviously not machine-generated—was AI-written? If we look at the section listing complaints against England, we see a lot of similar line lengths. That’s going to get picked up. There are also many similar words and tokens. The phrasing—”He has done this, he has done this”—is repetitive. An AI detector will flag this repetition, concluding it must be AI-generated. It’s a very specific kind of document.

    Second, many detectors use primitive metrics and straightforward, fast, and cheap code, or they use very small language models—again, fast and cheap. As a result, they’re not very capable; they’re kind of dumb. They may have been trained on purely generated texts, learning characteristics like perplexity and burstiness. All of it is worthless. AI detectors are worthless; they are garbage. Show this example; show this video; run the test yourself. I originally posted this on LinkedIn, and I got a lot of feedback. Many people said their kids were suspended from school or put on academic probation because schools used these tools as gospel, claiming academic integrity violations. No, the tools are garbage. Stop using them. Educational institutions should stop using them, period. They’re worthless.

    I saw another comment on the LinkedIn post about someone turned down for a job because their resume and cover letter were flagged as AI-generated. The hiring manager, using a detection tool, concluded the applicant wasn’t real and didn’t offer the job. This has real-world consequences because someone is using a tool they think is good, but it’s not. It’s garbage. If you are a parent, use this example to show your school board and school administration how worthless these tools are. If you’re at a company and the HR person or hiring manager is using one of these tools, tell them to stop immediately because they’re worthless. They’re no good; they’re less than a coin flip in accuracy. To judge whether something’s AI-generated, flip a coin—you’ll get better results mathematically.

    Are there giveaways that something is AI-generated? Yes, but fewer every day as models advance. They get better as they’re trained and tuned, and the big tech companies making AI models have far more budget, technical capabilities, and people than those making AI detectors. So, the models are accelerating far faster than detection abilities.

    What’s the solution? Two things. First, does AI detection matter? Does it really matter whether a student wrote the paper or wrote a good prompt to generate it? If it matters that the student wrote it, ask yourself why. You want them to be able to think; writing is thinking. There are other ways to measure that. Ask students questions in class; debate points and see how much background knowledge they retain. Let’s not bother with term papers—it’s a waste of time. Machines can write better term papers than humans. Let’s do things like Socratic debates. Framingham State University, near my house, has students write papers with ChatGPT, then critiques them in small groups, identifying errors, overgeneralizations, and areas for improvement. This reinforces critical thinking, which is what you want to teach—you want students to think. That’s powerful.

    A second use case where AI detection might matter is copyright. To assert copyright, you must demonstrate human involvement; purely machine-generated content can’t be copyrighted. How do you do that? Show the content’s lineage and provenance; keep records; maintain an audit trail. If you absolutely have to prove you made something, keep an audit trail. When I work for a client and use AI, I start with a voice memo, transcribe it, apply the client’s style guide using AI, and give them the final product. I can show the chain of evidence—original recordings, etc.—and say it’s machine-assisted but human-led. Because it’s a derivative work of my original human-led work, it retains copyright, and I can assign it to the client. That’s a way to handle copyright. Finally, stop using AI detection for stupid use cases—like disqualifying someone from a job for using AI in their resume or CV. That’s a dumb application of AI. Why? Because you want maximum productivity from your employees. Analyzing them for AI use is stupid unless you specify in the job description that AI use is prohibited. Even then, there are better ways to address this that don’t involve broken, incompetent detection tools.

    If you are using, considering using, or know a colleague using these AI detector tools, please show them this, share it with them, and persuade them that these tools are worthless, garbage, and unreliable. They should under no circumstances be used for anything important, such as a student’s academic standing or job hiring. This is your public service announcement. Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you next time. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button, subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already, and hit the bell button to be notified when new content is live. Thank you.

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    Katie asked me this week to cover synthetic ideal customer profiles intended for use with AI. Now, we’ve talked at length about these, which you can see here, here, and here, and of course my company offers the creation of these as a service, which you can find here.

    So since we’ve got all that covered, let’s talk about what you DO with an ideal customer profile. All too often, people take a document like an ICP and… shelve it. It becomes attractive binder-ware, sitting next to your SWOT analysis and that expensive product-market fit analysis you hired that very expensive consulting firm to do.

    This is a terrible fate for any useful document, but none moreso than an ideal customer profile. Let’s dig into some examples of what you can DO with these things.

    I strongly recommend you watch the video edition of this week’s newsletter because I walk through many of these examples onscreen.

    Part 1: What’s Inside?

    A good ideal customer profile is going to have these basics, which will vary based on your business to some degree but are pretty standard:

    • Demographics: classic 1990s IRC A/S/L (iykyk)
    • Psychographics: stuff like values, opinions, attitudes, activities
    • Firmographics: mainly for B2B, the corporate equivalent of demographics
    • Goals and motivations: what does the customer want to do?
    • Needs and pain points: what stands in the way of the customer’s goals?
    • Buying behaviors: details about how the customer makes decisions

    The difference between a buyer persona and an ICP is that ICPs are generally synthesized from actual data. When Katie builds them for clients, she gathers up a half dozen different data sources and uses generative AI to blend them together.

    Here’s the key to a good ICP. In general, for making use of an ICP with AI, it should contain as much relevant, specific information as possible. More is better as long as it’s relevant and specific, because we’ll be using them with generative AI. You don’t have to worry about overwhelming a stakeholder’s mere human brain with lots of details when you’re using ICPs with AI – a key difference between the ICPs you’re probably used to and a synthetic ICP intended for use with AI.

    Part 2: Obvious Use Cases

    Once you’ve got a solid ICP that’s ready for generative AI, there’s a universe of things you can do with them. Load into a generative AI system of choice and have it:

    • Validate your marketing copy
    • Brainstorm ideas for content by talking with your ICP
    • Test things like email subject lines, ad copy, etc.

    How you do this is more important than the tasks themselves. A lot of people approach these tasks very naively as opposed to rigorously. What do I mean?

    Naive use of an ICP is giving it to generative AI and then just asking it basic questions like “Hey, what do you think of this idea?”. With a detailed ICP, that will still generate good results, but they’re not going to be optimal results.

    What should you do? There’s a defined process I use with things like ICPs when it comes to evaluation:

    • Prime the model with background information, including the ICP
    • Summarize the information into best practices to reinforce its importance within the conversation (changing the in-conversation weights)
    • Build a scoring rubric for the evaluation process
    • Evaluate using the rubric and the best practices
    • Encapsulate the rubric and best practices into an app

    Here’s a simple example. Suppose I want to evaluate whether a blog post meets the needs of our ICP. I’d do the following:

    • Ask the model what good quality blog content is using the Trust Insights PARE framework
    • Load the ICP
    • Summarize high quality content
    • Build a scoring rubric for quality content that aligns with the ICP
    • Evaluate a piece of content to ensure the system works as intended
    • Put the rubric and quality outline into a Gem/GPT/artifact

    For simple evaluation tasks, building apps like Gems, GPTs, and Artifacts is the easiest way to effectively scale the use of AI with an ICP at your company. Once you go through this process for a specific task, you can hand over the finished app to others and then they can benefit from your expert development.

    Part 3: Less Obvious Use Cases

    Asking an AI model to evaluate something like content against an ICP is a great, simple, easy use case. A less obvious but similar use case is turning your ICP into buyer personas and having those buyer personas have a conversation with you for things like product market fit.

    Here’s an example. Katie and the Trust Insights team built an ICP for me as a keynote speaker, to help better guide my marketing efforts at being hired as a keynote speaker by events and conferences. That’s a solid, straightforward use case. We have no shortage of data about who event planners are or the things that are important to them.

    I could just hand a talk or talk summary to that ICP and ask it to evaluate and score how well the talk would meet their needs as an event planner. That’s useful. But what if I took a step back and had several different event planners at a table, and had a conversation with them about an upcoming talk?

    Using the ICP, I’ll direct my AI tool to split it into three synthetic customers – an event planner for a major marketing conference, an event planner for an industry conference in a vertical like healthcare, and an event planner for an individual corporation.

    Why do this? Because an ICP is so rich and robust with real data, assembled from real data, generative AI tools can infer a great deal from that data, extrapolating it into personas that have differing goals and motivations. The needs of a corporate event planner needing a speaker for a sales kickoff are somewhat aligned but somewhat different from a speaking planner for a major marketing conference.

    Unlike talking to a monolithic profile, using the ICP as the basis for personas also allows you to create adversarial variants, personas that might not be as receptive to your sales and marketing. This is a great way to see how different segments of the market might react; telling the model to generate a skeptic or an outright critic of your company can give you a much wider perspective of how the market might see you.

    Part 4: Challenging Use Cases

    Now, let’s kick things up a notch, as the cooking show aphorism goes. What are some more technically challenging use cases for ICPs?

    Well, for one thing you can talk to them directly, as though they were real people. I have an example using OpenAI’s ChatGPT Advanced Voice Mode in the video edition. This week, OpenAI announced we can use those same voices via their API, so you can build entire apps around them.

    I did an example this week using Google’s synthetic voices for a live, phone call-style focus group in which I talk to two variants of our Ideal Customer Profile. You’ll see a snippet of that in the video edition as well.

    Beyond this, you can build an entire synthetic advisory service. For example, you could take one of your personas, a pile of marketing news for the week, and have your ICP-based persona email you asking questions about what the news means for their business. Or, since everyone’s in love with podcasts made by AI, have one or two of your personas discussing marketing news of the week and then interviewing you as the expert on the topic.

    Want to kick it up even more? Take the ideal customer profile and use it with a CRM agent as an advanced form of lead scoring. Every lead that comes in, a generative AI model can use the ICP to score how similar the new lead is to the ICP. Think of it instead of product market fit as lead fit, and use it as an additional scoring mechanism to prioritize and sort your prospects and leads in your marketing. (more on building AI agents here)

    Part 5: Wrapping Up

    As with so many other things, people have a tendency to treat ideal customer profiles as just another document on the pile, when in reality they’re the basis for some of the most powerful generative AI work you can accomplish. You know who your customer is, or who you want your customer to be. Now bind that knowledge to as many aspects of your operations as possible, and you’ll turn shelfware into real revenue.

    Blatant pitch: if you’d like one of our AI-powered synthetic ICPs, just visit here and book some time with Katie to get one.

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    Mind Readings: Making a Podcast with Generative AI, Part 5

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    Welcome back! This is our fifth and final part in the series on doing an interesting interview with a tool like ChatGPT. In part one, I talked about the audio setup and getting the model primed to do interviews. In part two, we built the synthetic personality, Grace Parker Thompson (whose initials are GPT), and did the creation of that personality. In part three, we recorded the interview. In part four, we did the editing of the interview to show how you process it. In this fifth and final part, this is what I would call the troubleshooting episode, because I realized as I was walking through this, if you know your audio gear, it’s pretty straightforward to set up. It’s a pain, but it’s straightforward; you know how to do it. If you don’t know your audio gear, it’s not as fun—and by “not as fun,” I mean it’s miserable.

    So, here’s the workaround episode for doing this interview, with the caveat that it’s more work on the back end to sew it together. You’re going to need a few things. Number one, you’re going to need some kind of recording software for your normal studio. You could be using StreamYard, Riverside, Zencastr, or whatever the recording tool of your choice is: Audition, Camtasia, you name it. You want to have your normal setup for a podcast. You also want to have your smartphone with your ChatGPT paid subscription.

    What you’re going to need to do is hit record on your main thing, then go into your settings and hit record and start your screen recording on the device. This is going to record the audio from the device and save it as a movie on the device. Now you’re ready to start using this, with the caveat that you’re going to have to sew these things together. So, what you should do is clap three times unevenly so that when you’re editing the audio later you can line it up. Like that. That will make it way easier to do the editing later.

    Next, go ahead and start the interview process. Let me get my system prompt up here. Remember, until this supports custom GPTs (which it does not now), you’re going to need to do this manually. I’m going to hit the advanced button, wait for the dot to turn blue…there we are. We’ve got our blue dot.

    “You are Grace Parker Thompson, an experienced podcast host for insightful, challenging interviews. Your goal is to ask non-obvious, thought-provoking questions and push the guest (me) politely and civilly to share new insights not covered elsewhere. Begin by researching the guest’s background deeply. Avoid common questions and focus on asking reflective, open-ended ones. If the guest evades, redirect politely and ask for more depth. Use silence to encourage thoughtful responses and request specific examples when needed. Tailor your energy to the guest while steering the conversation towards new knowledge or unspoken stories. Always ask follow-up questions and focus on eliciting fresh perspectives, especially in areas that are overlooked or that the guest is being cagey about. Close with a big, forward-looking or reflective question. Throughout the interview, maintain a balance of warmth and firmness, ensuring the guest feels comfortable but engaged in offering meaningful insights.”

    “Wow, that’s a pretty thorough breakdown for hosting an insightful podcast interview! If you’re aiming to challenge your guest and dive deep into unexplored topics, you’ve got to be ready to listen closely.”

    “Okay, I want you to be Grace Parker Thompson and interview me. My name is Christopher Penn. I’m the co-founder and chief data scientist of TrustInsights.ai, and today I want you to interview me about my new book, The Intelligence Revolution, about the rise of generative AI and how we are using it. The book goes into what large language models are, the history behind them. It talks about the six major use cases: classification, generation, extraction, rewriting, summarization, and question answering. I then go into the risks of AI, such as copyright issues and legal issues dealing with deepfakes and the ways the tools can be misused. At the end of the book, I talk about its impact on jobs and how it’s going to look like agriculture and the automation revolution, where one farmer became far more productive over a period of time, and so there are fewer people working in agriculture today than there ever were, but it’s producing more food than ever. I think that AI is going to look the same for knowledge workers. So, with that background information, let’s start the interview.”

    “Great to have you on the show, Christopher! Your book, The Intelligence Revolution, sounds like a comprehensive dive into the world of generative AI. Let’s start with a foundational question: in your view, how do large language models represent a turning point in our interaction with technology?”

    “So, large language models are a major change from previous technologies because of the nature of the transformer architecture. They allow us to converse with computers in natural language and have it actually be understood, which is a major change from all forms of previous natural language processing. In particular, it allows us to write and chat with these tools in plain language even though we are effectively programming them—in English, Danish, Ukrainian—instead of C, Java, or Python. It is that architecture that is context-aware and that is trained on massive amounts of data that allows these tools to be incredibly powerful, far more than any previous language interface to computers.”

    “That’s a fascinating shift from traditional programming. Given this leap in how we interact with AI, do you think we’re prepared for the ethical implications, especially around issues like deepfakes and misinformation? How do we navigate these challenges?”

    “We’re completely unprepared.”

    Now, I’m going to pause the interview there. So, what we need to do next is turn off the screen recording on our device. Now we need to connect our device to our desktop so that the screen recording can be pulled off. Then we take our video recording from our main setup, and we take our screen recording. We load that into a tool like Adobe Premiere, and we have to line up the two recordings. You’ll notice that I was holding this here for camera purposes. In reality, you would probably want this as far away from your main microphone (or in the opposite direction of your main microphone) as possible so that you’re not getting echoed audio when you line the two recordings up. I’d say this is a top-address microphone, which means it’s pointed at me, so I’d want to have my phone essentially right on the other side of it. That way, it’s going to pick up as little as possible from that. Or, if you can’t do that, maybe even put in some wired headphones straight into your phone so you can hear the questions that it’s asking you, but you don’t get that audio feedback when you sew the recordings together.

    So that’s the “more work in post-production” version to accomplish the same thing. But if you are skilled with audio and video editing, you’ll be able to do that and make the same quality show. It is easier to have it be synchronous; it is easier to have it all going through one soundboard. But again, a lot of people, if you don’t have a several-hundred-dollar soundboard, or you don’t have the wiring for it, this two-party recording and then lining it up in post-production is easier.

    So that is going to do it for the end of this series on using generative AI as a podcast interviewer, so that it’s asking you interesting questions. You, the human, are being showcased as the expert, as the brains behind it. That builds your brand that is uniquely you and that is, frankly, more fun to listen to than machines. So, I look forward to hearing from you, and I will talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.

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